Hoffman Passes Sutton

[Hammerin Hank]

Today against the Rockies, Trevor Hoffman pitched his 775th career game, passing Don Sutton for 37th all time. Hoffman needs three more to pass Gaylord Perry for 36th all time.

[lostzuli]

Hoffman is probably one of the more underrated closers in baseball (except to Padres fans), due to the Padres lackluster records in previous seasons. He is as good as they come, even at his age, because he only has one devastating pitch. He should close 40+ this year and break the record early next season.

Go Hoffman

[KCGHOST]

Of course, he's still 4400 innings behind Sutton in actual work.

[JohnGelnarFan]

That's true but funny KCGHOST. Hoffman may be as underrated as any star in MLB history. Hall of Famer?

GHOST,I didn't see your answer to KCfan12's latest thread about Dayton Moore. I think he must be a very young kid.

Originally Posted by KCGHOST

Of course, he's still 4400 innings behind Sutton in actual work.

[KCGHOST]

I have tended to ignote kcfan12's threads because all he does is ask for the opinions of others without expressing his own.

[Hammerin Hank]

Originally Posted by KCGHOST

Of course, he's still 4400 innings behind Sutton in actual work.

Hoffman was a relief pitcher. Relief pitchers tend to get an inning of work per outing. Well, about a third to two-thirds these days. Nonetheless, Sutton was a starter. Starters are the pitchers who usually pitch the first four or five innings of a game. Or in his day, it was about eight. It's not hard to imagine why Sutton would have more IP than Hoffman.

[JohnGelnarFan]

I noticed your aggrevation at the way he starts threads.

HHank- I think KCGHOST was making a point that even though they pitched in the same amount of games,It's much more of a feat to do it as a starter....I think!

Originally Posted by KCGHOST

I have tended to ignote kcfan12's threads because all he does is ask for the opinions of others without expressing his own.

[lostzuli]

I know I'm just a newbie on this site, even a newbie to the NL, EVEN a newbie to loving Trevor Hoffman, but once Hell's Bells starts, it's game over.
Hoffman for the Cy Young: 20IP 16Ks 12 for 12 in save situations 1.35 ERA.

[Iron Jaw]

Originally Posted by Hammerin Hank

Hoffman was a relief pitcher. Relief pitchers tend to get an inning of work per outing. Well, about a third to two-thirds these days. Nonetheless, Sutton was a starter. Starters are the pitchers who usually pitch the first four or five innings of a game. Or in his day, it was about eight. It's not hard to imagine why Sutton would have more IP than Hoffman.

Sutton completed 178 of his 756 starts (he also had 18 relief appearances) with a career high of 18 CG's in 1972. From 1967-78 he averaged 12 per year - that was about the norm for the times. The aces were usually over 20 - or 30 in the CG category.

[Hammerin Hank]

Yesterday against the Brewers, Trevor pitched his 778th career game, passing Gaylord Perry for 36th all time.