Which Train

[Ford Prefect]

I want to visit the old site of ebbets field so which subway bus or what ever must i take to get there

[donzblock]

Originally Posted by Ford Prefect

I want to visit the old site of ebbets field so which subway bus or what ever must i take to get there

Take the BMT Brighton local or express and get off at Prospect Park. Then ask for walking directions to Ebbets Field Apartments.

[DODGER DEB]

Professor, if I may insert myself in here, the BRIGHTON EXPRESS/LOCAL are no longer called by the names WE knew them. I know the BRIGHTON EXPRESS is now called the "Q" Line; I am not sure about the BRIGHTON LOCAL.

Ford Prefect, you can, of course, ask for directions, but perhaps this will help! When taking this train, go to the back of the train and exit there. When you exit the Prospect Park Station, turn left and walk towards Empire Blvd. Cross Empire Blvd. and then walk right on Empire Blvd until you reach Franklin Avenue. Turn left on Franklin Avenue and walk (I believe it is still) two blocks to Sullivan Place. Turn right on Sullivan Place and cross over. Then walk right on Sullivan Place to the next corner which is McKeever Place and cross over. YOU will now be standing on hallowed ground; right on that corner stood the entrance to OUR ROTUNDA of OUR EBBETS FIELD. If you walk straight down Sullivan Place, towards Bedford Avenue, you will be walking down OUR first base/rightfield line. Take note of the sign on the apartment building on this corner. Turn left at the corner and walk on Bedford Avenue toward (the next corner) Montgomery Street. You will now have walked passed OUR right and center fields. Turn left on Montgomery Street and walk up to Mc Keever Place. You will now have walked pass OUR leftfield. Turn left on Mc Keever Place and walk back up to Sullivan Place. You will now have passed OUR leftfield/third side of OUR EBBETS FIELD.

Please come back and tell US about your experience. WE would love to hear about it.

c.

[MATHA531]

The 24/7 Brighton service is called the Q train and runs down Broadway in Manhattan...during the hours from 7 AM to 9 PM on weekdays, you can also take the B train which runs down 6th Avenue to Prospect Park and follow Dodger Deb's instructions above.

The B41 bus line runs down Flatbush Avenue from downtown Brooklyn if you stay at the Brooklyn Marriot and stops right at the Prospect Park station.

There is no longer IRT, BMT and IND in NYC....the trains lines are either given letters (the old BMT and IND) or numbers (the old IRT). The nearest IRT station was Sterling Street on what is now the number 2 and number 5 lines; I remember the sign saying Ebbets Field.

[Ford Prefect]

thanks guys i print this and put it into my trip folder i go in may and let you know then

[donzblock]

Originally Posted by DODGER DEB

Professor, if I may insert myself in here, the BRIGHTON EXPRESS/LOCAL are no longer called by the names WE knew them. I know the BRIGHTON EXPRESS is now called the "Q" Line; I am not sure about the BRIGHTON LOCAL.

With all due respect to our learned moderator, Ford Prefect wishes to visit the old site of Ebbets Field, and no Q train ever took anybody there. Somehow, Ford Prefect will have to find an ancient token worth no more than 15 cents, drop it into an ancient turnstile, and wait patiently for either of the Brighton trains to arrive. I would suggest a station like Newkirk Avenue where locals and expresses stop. This process may take some time, but if Mr. Prefect is not in a hurry, I firmly believe that train will arrive and his wishes will be granted.

[DODGER DEB]

Originally Posted by donzblock

With all due respect to our learned moderator, Ford Prefect wishes to visit the old site of Ebbets Field, and no Q train ever took anybody there. Somehow, Ford Prefect will have to find an ancient token worth no more than 15 cents, drop it into an ancient turnstile, and wait patiently for either of the Brighton trains to arrive. I would suggest a station like Newkirk Avenue where locals and expresses stop. This process may take some time, but if Mr. Prefect is not in a hurry, I firmly believe that train will arrive and his wishes will be granted.

Professor, when you're right...you're right! And, you are absolutely right about no "Q" train ever ever taking any of US to OUR Ebbets Field. I somehow tranformed myself into the present...and that is not acceptable here. I don't know what came over me!

BTW, how long do you think Ford Prefect's complete journey will take?

c.

[donzblock]

Originally Posted by DODGER DEB

BTW, how long do you think Ford Prefect's complete journey will take?

c.

When you're having fun, time flies.

[chiefpaddy]

Will he be allowed to visit the rotunda. By the way I have some of those old tokens if he needs one. My dad sved one each time the fare went up. Quite a collection.

[DODGER DEB]

Originally Posted by chiefpaddy

Will he be allowed to visit the rotunda. By the way I have some of those old tokens if he needs one. My dad sved one each time the fare went up. Quite a collection.

If he wants to visit OUR Rotunda, he will have to check will Jaykay. He is the keeper of the keys, among other things down there.

But, I am sure your old tokens will come in handy, chiefpaddy.

c.

[VIBaseball]

Originally Posted by donzblock

Somehow, Ford Prefect will have to find an ancient token worth no more than 15 cents, drop it into an ancient turnstile, and wait patiently for either of the Brighton trains to arrive.

May I present an alternative, Professor?

(www.mo.com/brooklyn)

[DODGER DEB]

Originally Posted by VIBaseball

May I present an alternative, Professor?

(www.mo.com/brooklyn)

Great shot, VIBaseball!

That bus had to be the Lorimer Street bus which rode along Franklin Avenue. It even looks like one of the electric buses that were in use between the trolley cars and the regular buses.

c.

[Aa3rt]

Originally Posted by DODGER DEB

That bus had to be the Lorimer Street bus which rode along Franklin Avenue. It even looks like one of the electric buses that were in use between the trolley cars and the regular buses.

c.

DODGER DEB-I hate to be picayune, but that most assuredly is NOT a bus-it is a PCC trolley-note the rails underneath. In fact, Number 1000 is renowned as the first of many PCC (President's Conference Committee) cars to ply the trolley rails of Brooklyn.

Here's a more "revealing" photo of #1000, coming off the Brooklyn Bridge:

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?7689

For a photo of a "trolley bus", try this link:

www.photonewyork.com/prod_images_blowup/Trollebbetspdl.jpg

Note the youths "hitching" a ride on the back of the bus on the left, and, of course, the long lost, much lamented EBBETS FIELD to the far left.

[chiefpaddy]

Originally Posted by Aa3rt

DODGER DEB-I hate to be picayune, but that most assuredly is NOT a bus-it is a PCC trolley-note the rails underneath. In fact, Number 1000 is renowned as the first of many PCC (President's Conference Committee) cars to ply the trolley rails of Brooklyn.

Here's a more "revealing" photo of #1000, coming off the Brooklyn Bridge:

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?7689

For a photo of a "trolley bus", try this link:

www.photonewyork.com/prod_images_blowup/Trollebbetspdl.jpg

Note the youths "hitching" a ride on the back of the bus on the left, and, of course, the long lost, much lamented EBBETS FIELD to the far left.

Great picturesAart, brings back a lot of memories.

[donzblock]

Those trolleys were wonderful, and the ones with the squared noses were very rare on Coney Island Avenue. As for Dodger Deb's electric buses, they were a lot cleaner and quieter than the gas guzzlers, but they had a great deal of trouble making those sharp turns. Inevitably, the part of the bus that made the connection to the hot wires overhead would disconnect, and the driver would have to get out and reattach.

[DODGER DEB]

Originally Posted by Aa3rt

DODGER DEB-I hate to be picayune, but that most assuredly is NOT a bus-it is a PCC trolley-note the rails underneath. In fact, Number 1000 is renowned as the first of many PCC (President's Conference Committee) cars to ply the trolley rails of Brooklyn.

Here's a more "revealing" photo of #1000, coming off the Brooklyn Bridge:

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?7689

For a photo of a "trolley bus", try this link:

www.photonewyork.com/prod_images_blowup/Trollebbetspdl.jpg

Note the youths "hitching" a ride on the back of the bus on the left, and, of course, the long lost, much lamented EBBETS FIELD to the far left.

Thanks for the links of those trolleys/buses, Art.

You are probably correct in your description of the photo, which you call a trolley, and I call an electric bus. To me, those kind of "trolleys" with the connection overhead wires, were always "electric buses". However, that is just what I called them. If you look at the second photo, which views the vehicle from the rear (the one with the boys hitching a ride), I think it looks more like a bus than a trolley from the rear.

c.

[DODGER DEB]

Originally Posted by donzblock

Those trolleys were wonderful, and the ones with the squared noses were very rare on Coney Island Avenue. As for Dodger Deb's electric buses, they were a lot cleaner and quieter than the gas guzzlers, but they had a great deal of trouble making those sharp turns. Inevitably, the part of the bus that made the connection to the hot wires overhead would disconnect, and the driver would have to get out and reattach.

I loved the trolleys, too, Professor!

From where I lived I could take the Lorimer Street trolley or bus, to OUR Ebbets Field, which I did from time to time. I liked the ride, but it took much too long to get there. The BMT Carnarsie Line/Brighton Beach Express combo was much quicker.

The one thing that used to scare the heck out of me was when those overhead wires would spark like crazy, and more so when they came falling down. It was a little better with the electric buses.

c.

[Brooklyn]

Ford - I wasn't fortunate enough to be alive while the Dodgers played in Brooklyn, but live in Brooklyn now and have been to the site.

I'm not sure asking for directions would really be the best advice there. It is a pretty busy neighborhood and some people might look at you like you have three heads. I tried to attach a map for you, but couldn't figure out how to do it. If you send me a private message with an email address, I'd be happy to send you a map.

Here is the quick and dirty directions. Take the Q to Prospect Park. It will let you out on Flatbush and Empire. Take Empire Boulevard 4 blocks East (Empire only goes in one direction here, away from the park). Make a left on Beford Ave, and go one block. It is in between Sullivan Pl and Montgomery Street. I believe the entrance to the apartments is on Bedford, but the actual address to Ebbets Field was on Sullivan. Someone fortunate enough to have been there when it was open can tell you exactly where the entrance was.

[DODGER DEB]

Originally Posted by Brooklyn

Ford - I wasn't fortunate enough to be alive while the Dodgers played in Brooklyn, but live in Brooklyn now and have been to the site.

I'm not sure asking for directions would really be the best advice there. It is a pretty busy neighborhood and some people might look at you like you have three heads. I tried to attach a map for you, but couldn't figure out how to do it. If you send me a private message with an email address, I'd be happy to send you a map.

Here is the quick and dirty directions. Take the Q to Prospect Park. It will let you out on Flatbush and Empire. Take Empire Boulevard 4 blocks East (Empire only goes in one direction here, away from the park). Make a left on Beford Ave, and go one block. It is in between Sullivan Pl and Montgomery Street. I believe the entrance to the apartments is on Bedford, but the actual address to Ebbets Field was on Sullivan. Someone fortunate enough to have been there when it was open can tell you exactly where the entrance was.

The main entrance to OUR Ebbets Field was at OUR Rotunda entrance at 55 Sullivan Place (the official address), on the corner of McKeever Place and Sullivan Place.

c.

[tonypug]

All this talk about getting to Ebbets Field brings back good memories and makes me sad at the same time.

[DODGER DEB]

Originally Posted by tonypug

All this talk about getting to Ebbets Field brings back good memories and makes me sad at the same time.

I know!

c.

[Bklyn Boy since 1936]

Originally Posted by tonypug

All this talk about getting to Ebbets Field brings back good memories and makes me sad at the same time.

I share that sentiment.