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Old 12-29-2005, 03:47 PM
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Current Top 10 Shortstops Poll

This is the fifth installment of the positon polls for currnt players. To vote, simple list the top 10 shortstops that are active in order from best (#1) to least (#10). The results will be tabulated and will be announced on jan 5 @ 10 PM or 2 days after the last ballot was submitted. The points will be alloted based on the player's ranking on each list (1st place gets 10, 2nd gets 9, 3rd gets 8, etc.) Remember, YOU MUST LIST 10!!!!!

Although you may vote for whomever you see fit I strongly urge you to consider offensive as well as defensive preformance. Also, try to rate players in either preformance in the 2005 mlb season or preformance in the last 3-4 years. However, you may can use career performance as a factor.

Here are the results from previous polls:

Catchers
1. Victor Martinez
2. Jason Varitek
3. Joe Mauer
4. Jorge Posada
5. Ivan Rodriguez
6. Ramon Hernandez
6. Bengie Molina
8. Mike Matheny
9. Michael Barrett
10. Paul Lo Duca

First Basemen
1. Albert Pujols
2. Derek Lee
3. Mark Teixeira
4. Carlos Delgado
5. Todd Helton
6. Paul Konerko
7. Jason Giambi
8. Lance Berkman
9. Richie Sexson
10. Jim Thome

Second Basemen
1. Jeff Kent
2. Alfonso Soriano
3. Marcus Giles
4. Brian Roberts
5. Chase Utley
6. Placido Polanco
7. Robinson Cano
7. Luis Castillo
9. Craig Biggio
10. Mark Loretta

Third Basemen
1. Alex Rodriguez
2. Scott Rolen
3. Miguel Cabrera
4. David Wright
5. Eric Chavez
6. Morgan Ensberg
7. Aramis Ramirez
8. Troy Glaus
9. Chipper Jones
10. Melvin Mora
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:12 PM
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1. Miguel Tejada
2. Derek Jeter
3. David Eckstein
4. Michael Young
5. Omar Vizquel
6. Edgar Renteria
7. Jimmy Rollins
8. Rafael Furcal
9. Jose Reyes
10. Nomar Garciaparra
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:39 PM
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Ok, i find it very funny that you put Jeter #2...Nomar??? Really?

1. Miguel Tejada
2. Khalil Greene
3. Michael Young
4. Rafael Furcal
5. Orlando Cabrera
6. David Eckstein
7. Derek Jeter
8. Jimmy Rollins
9. Jhonny Peralta
10. Omar Vizquel
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:49 PM
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Ok, i find it very funny that you put Jeter #2...Nomar??? Really?
ok maybe jeter is not as good as he used to be. but he is still better than most other shortstops out their. but maybe a boston fan can't understand. despite being injured most of the season, nomar still hit pretty well in 2005.
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:27 PM
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1) Jimmy Rollins
2) Rafael Furcal
3) Derek Jeter
4) Miguel Tejada
5) Khalil Greene
6) Johnny Peralta
7) Michael Young
8) Cezar Izturis
9) Omar Vizquel
10) David Eckstein
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:39 PM
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1-Derek Jeter
2-Michael Young
3-Miguel Tejada
4-Jose Reyes (and he'll only get better)
5-Omar Vizquel
6-Jimmy Rollins
7-Nomar Garciapara
8-Edgar Renteria (assumning last year was a fluke)
9-Rafael Furcal
10-David Eckstein
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Old 12-29-2005, 06:16 PM
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Ok, i find it very funny that you put Jeter #2...Nomar??? Really?

1. Miguel Tejada
2. Khalil Greene
3. Michael Young
4. Rafael Furcal
5. Orlando Cabrera
6. David Eckstein
7. Derek Jeter
8. Jimmy Rollins
9. Jhonny Peralta
10. Omar Vizquel
This coming from someone who puts Khalil Greene as the 2nd best shortstop in baseball... I think you lose your speaking priveliges
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Old 12-29-2005, 06:19 PM
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This coming from someone who puts Khalil Greene as the 2nd best shortstop in baseball... I think you lose your speaking priveliges
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Old 12-29-2005, 06:57 PM
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This coming from someone who puts Khalil Greene as the 2nd best shortstop in baseball... I think you lose your speaking priveliges
Precisely.

How can somebody rank Greene, Cabrera, and Eckstein ahead of Jeter and then have the audacity to question somebody else's choices?
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1. Tejada
2. Young
3. Jeter
4. Rollins
5. Peralta
6. Furcal
7. Reyes
8. Eckstein
9. Greene
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Old 12-29-2005, 07:48 PM
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1. Miguel Tejada
2. Derek Jeter
3. David Eckstein
4. Michael Young
5. Omar Vizquel
6. Edgar Renteria
7. Jimmy Rollins
8. Rafael Furcal
9. Jose Reyes
10. Nomar Garciaparra
Oh, man. No Yuniesky Betancourt in your list (Mariners). Jeter was given a gold glove over Angels Orlando Cabrera. That was a gift! Next year, no more gift for him because the Cuban kid from the Villa Clara Orange Growers (Cuban National League) will win it. In 2005, Betancourt came from the Mexican street to AA to AAA to the big leagues. The scouts are comparing him to Omar Vizquel!

Do you want to watch a gorgeous play?

Check the link below:


http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/team/p...ayer_id=435358

Under Multimedia, select Betancourt's Gorgeous Play.
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Old 12-29-2005, 07:51 PM
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Precisely.

How can somebody rank Greene, Cabrera, and Eckstein ahead of Jeter and then have the audacity to question somebody else's choices?
I personally find Jeter to be overated. Anyone can hae a mentality like him.

1. Micheal Young
2. Miguel Tejada
3. Khalil Greene
4. David Eckstein
5. Orlando Cabrera
6. Cesar Izturis
7. Rafeal Furcal
8. Bobby Crosby
9. Nomar Garciaparra
10. Tadihito Iguchi
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Old 12-29-2005, 07:53 PM
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Do you want to watch a gorgeous play?

Check the link below:


http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/team/p...ayer_id=435358

Under Multimedia, select Betancourt's Gorgeous Play.
Can't get the link to work.
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Old 12-29-2005, 08:02 PM
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I personally find Jeter to be overated. Anyone can hae a mentality like him.

1. Micheal Young
2. Miguel Tejada
3. Khalil Greene
4. David Eckstein
5. Orlando Cabrera
6. Cesar Izturis
7. Rafeal Furcal
8. Bobby Crosby
9. Nomar Garciaparra
10. Tadihito Iguchi
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Old 12-29-2005, 08:10 PM
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Can't get the link to work.

I just checked it. But if it does not work again for you, go to his MLB page. Type his last name in the search feature in the top right on MLB home page.

You will find two players with a Betancourt last name. Select Yuniesky Betancourt.

Under Multimedia, select either 56K/350K.

Guys, it was a great play. He did another great play just after this one in the same innings. It is worth watching!
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I personally find Jeter to be overated. Anyone can hae a mentality like him.

1. Micheal Young
2. Miguel Tejada
3. Khalil Greene
4. David Eckstein
5. Orlando Cabrera
6. Cesar Izturis
7. Rafeal Furcal
8. Bobby Crosby
9. Nomar Garciaparra
10. Tadihito Iguchi


Iguchi is a 2B!
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Old 12-29-2005, 08:18 PM
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Ok, I think Guerrero also loses his speaking priveliges

will have my list in a few minutes
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Old 12-29-2005, 08:20 PM
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Alright, alright.....Jeter is okay....
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Old 12-29-2005, 08:21 PM
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What others are saying about the kid from Villa Clara, Cuba!

Notes: Betancourt drawing comparisons
Defensive similarities to Vizquel have infielder on fast track
By Chris Hester / Special to MLB.com

Yuniesky Betancourt entered Wednesday with one error over 44 games this season. (Jeff Roberson/AP)


SEATTLE -- Yuniesky Betancourt is making a good impression playing shortstop for the Mariners. The slick-fielding middle infielder is already being compared to one of the game's greatest defensive shortstops, former Mariner and current San Francisco Giant Omar Vizquel.
"Everybody keeps wanting to compare him to Vizquel, and I think that's good -- I don't think there's anything wrong with that," manager Mike Hargrove said of the comparison between his current shortstop and the 11-time Gold Glove Award winner he used to manage in Cleveland. "The difference between Omar and Yuni is that Omar's been doing it for 20 years and Yuni's been doing it for about a month. He certainly is a very talented defender, and I think he's going to hit."

Betancourt made a pair of defensive gems in Tuesday night's 2-1 victory over the Angels. In the first inning, Vladimir Guerrero hit a roller toward short with two outs and a runner on third base. Betancourt charged and picked the ball bare-handed before throwing a strike to first base to end the inning.

In the seventh inning, the Angels plated their only run of the game and had runners on the corners with two away when the left-handed-hitting Steve Finley lofted a ball down the left-field line. With left fielder Raul Ibanez shading Finley toward the gap, Betancourt was forced to race into the outfield, making the catch in foul ground with his back to the infield.

"The play he made down the line on the foul ball, that's as good a play as you'll see anybody make," Hargrove added. "I thought that was more impressive than the barehand [play], but they both were pretty good."

The 23-year-old Cuban has been almost flawless in the field, handling 149 chances at shortstop and making just one miscue for a .993 fielding percentage. At second base, he's handled 44 chances without making an error.

With the bat, Betancourt is hitting .222 with six doubles, four triples and seven RBIs in 42 games since being called up from Triple-A Tacoma on
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Old 12-29-2005, 08:26 PM
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1. Michael Young
2. Derek Jeter
3. Miguel Tejada
4. Carlos Guillen (I'm a little confused as to why no one else has him listed)
5. Rafael Furcal
6. Jhonny Peralta
7. Jimmy Rollins
8. Edgar Renteria
9. Bobby Crosby
10. David Eckstein
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Old 12-29-2005, 10:27 PM
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Jeter over-rated? Yeah, sure...

Jeter only failed to hit over 300. twice during his career. Not counting 95 since he was not the starting SS yet. He's a career 314. hitter and has scored 1159 in nine full seasons as the Yankee starting SS. As a Red Sox fan, I can't even deny the fact that Jeter is good.

Though, I will admit Jeter has been over-rated on the defense side. Don't get me wrong, he's very good, but not the best. Especially this year, because we all know that OC should have won the Gold Glove in the AL this year, not Jeter. Nonetheless, that still doesn't mean Jeter is not a good fielder. He's still a gold glove level SS.

Anyway, my list.

1. Miguel Tejada
2. Derek Jeter
3. Michael Young
4. Rafael Furcal
5. Jhonny Peralta
6. Jimmy Rollins
7. Jose Reyes
8. Carlos Guillen
9. Bobby Crosby
10. David Eckstein
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:00 AM
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1: Alex Rodriguez (he's still the best)
2: Miguel Tejada
3: Jhonny Peralta
4: Derek Jeter
5: Carlos Guillen
6: Rafael Furcal
7: Michael Young
8: Orlando Cabrera
9: Omar Vizquel
10: Julio Lugo
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1. Miguel Tejada
2. Derek Jeter
3. Michael Young
4. Edgar Renteria
5. Rafael Furcal
6. David Eckstein
7. Jhonny Peralta
8. Jimmy Rollins
9. Omar Vizquel
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:56 AM
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When I read this I assume you have to be a SS to qualify. SO why is A-Rod and Garciaparra on here? A-Rod is 3rd and isnt Nomar taking 1st since the Furcal is at short?
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1. Jeter
2. Tejada
3. Renteria (b4 this year)
4. Furcal
5. Greene
6. Rollins
7. young
8. Eckstein
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