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How many baseball town are there...really?
I don't mean cities which can support baseball. I mean places where interest in the local baseball team is #1 and everything else does not come close. Off the top of my head, I can only think of four....Boston, New York, and St. Louis. At one time, Cincinnati may have been a baseball town, but I don't know if that is the case. Baltimore USED to be a baseball town, but thanks to Peter Angelos fans care more about the Ravens now. I probably should list L.A., but I suspect the Lakers may have a bigger hold on people's hearts. Is this list too short or am I too cynical?
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I think Cincy probably would be a baseball town, if only because the Bengals have been bad for so long (until this year). I'm dead certain that people care more about the Lakers than baseball in LA.
Maybe Houston? Their new football team is pretty lousy and I dunno if the Rockets are as big as they have been. Or Chicago, with the Sox and Cubs rivalling the Bears or Bulls. I'd say football is probably #1 everywhere else, except Toronto (hockey) and Phoenix/Arizona (basketball). |
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real baseball towns
St. Louis, New York, Atlanta, Philadelphia, Boston, Chicago, San Francisco, in no particular order. Oh yeah and Seattle.
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If the Patriots are considered in Boston, I would think that Boston is a football town. Off the top of my head I can only think of one place where baseball is big and #1, New York City
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Los Angeles is THE Baseball town.
Saying LA is not a baseball town is absurd. The Dodgers have consistantly the learder in attendance since their move to LA in 1958 and the Angels have lead the AL in attendace as early as 1966, and from 1978-87 among the top three in AL attendance. Since 2002, the Angels attendace has only been behind the Yankees and Dodgers. The Dodgers drew 3.6 million last season while the Angels drew 3.4 million, that is 8 million peole attending MLB in one market.
Before MLB came to town, the city supported two PCL clubs, the Angels and the Stars and USC was the dominate program in colligiate baseball until the mid 1970s. The local news normally starts with the baseball teams first. LA is and always was a baseball town. How many major leagues come from So Cal?
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The general "Boston area" is Patriots country, has been since 1995 or so. The Red Sox are the second team and rising but it is still far away from being the top. Even with the Red Sox making it to the ALCS in 2003 and winning the World Series in 2004, they got overshaddowed by the Patriots.
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L.A. supports winners no matter if it is the Kings , Lakers, Dodgers or whoever
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If I am understanding this correctly a "baseball town" would pretty much have to be a city with another sport in it or close by. If that's true then there's really only a few cities that really qualify as a "baseball town" Cleveland is the first one that comes to mind to me as a "baseball town". Since the old Browns left in 1996 the Indians have been top dog, eclipsing the new Browns and the Cavs... Atanta is next, but with the recent rise of the Falcons and this past year's stumbling start and recent off season moves that may be changing... Milwaukee is another, but only due to the Packers not exactly being a "Milwaukee" team... Alot of the other cities mentioned are more of "sports towns" rather than "baseball towns". The fans love sports and support whatever team is winning like the Lakers or Dodgers in LA, the Giants or the 49ers in San Fransisco, the Yankees or the Jets or the Giants in New York...
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Cincinnati is very much a baseball town. Detroit was for a long time, until the last decade or so.
Atlanta is in SEC country. It's probably more of a college football town than anything. The one thing that told me Boston is a baseball town is when the Patriots won their first super bowl, the chants were about the Yankees and, ahem, a certain activity they were accused of doing. How exactly are the LA Kings "winners"?
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As for the Patriots, they were the ones who were talking about being overshaddowed by the Red Sox in 2004. There were more people at the Red Sox championship parade then the any of the Patriots. I think the answer is a town team changes with whos doing well at the time, of course when the Pats were losing they didn't have many fans, like the Celtics and Bruins now, while the Red Sox have ben going pretty strong for over 100 years...
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It seems that San Francisco may be underrated as a baseball town. I am speaking of right now when the 49ers team is absolutely horrendous and Barry Bonds is playing. I think the interest for a sport usually depends of the success of the city's team in that particular sport, so it changes through time. Of course city's like New York and St.Louis who have known the most successfull teams in the history of the sport are now more carved into the peoples minds and the effect is longer lasting.
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Once the Detroit Tigers starts winning, we'll be a baseball town again. We we're Hockeytown, but the lockout hurt that. I would say that from what I can see, Detroit is a basketball town for the time being. So many football fans have just been turned off in the last few years (Thanks Matt Millen) so I don't think you can call Detroit a football town.
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Except during the World Cup
Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
San Juan, Puerto Rico Havana, Cuba and believe it or not, the Dayton Dragons (AA Reds) sell out their entire stadium on a season ticket basis every single year. They have had 427 consecutive sold out games, and there really isn't a whole heck of a lot else to do in Dayton, Oh.
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First off, the Dragons are Class A. Dayton is more of a college basketball town, believe it or not. On a poll done by the Dayton Daily News, only 25% of fans actually knew the final score of the game.
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The first three are no-brainers: St. Louis, New York and Boston. I think you could make a case for a few others but I'm going to say Chicago because of the undying Cubs fans at Wrigley. And I understand that it's the experience of the park and the drinking and all that but the place is packed all the time and with the ChiSox taking it all this past October, perhaps that will carry over into 2006 and Chicago will cement fourth place on this list. I mean, hey, Chicagoans like their baseball and with that Bears offense, they'll be looking forward to spring training sooner than rather than later.
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The Kings get alot of support like the Ducks in ANaheim. In 93 when the Kings went to the Stanley Cup LA was going crazy for hockey same as 2003 for the Ducks down in Orange County Even are soccer temas get huge support and have very high attendance No city is what you call a real baseball town like what Dallas and Green Bay are for football Montreal and Tornoto are for hockey |
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Being the #4 or #5 in team in the LA or NY market is better than being the #1 team in most markets
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