Don't you get sick and tired of the so called Brooklyn memorabilia?

I was looking on the net for a Brooklyn Dodgers T-shirt like I used to have.

I came along a lot of $hit that has been made to make some money out of your celebration. http://www.starstruck.com/Team--Coop...1384_1418.html

Probably they think: "As long as it has the name Brooklyn on it, it will sell. Eventhough the Dodgers never wore the name Brooklyn on their road jerseys".

What do you think about this?

[donzblock]

The Dodgers for a few years did wear "Brooklyn" on their road jerseys; I believe they did so in the early 40s. But I seem to recall at least one game on TV in 1949 or 1950 when they wore such a uniform. Then again, this vision may be a manifestation of insanity.

I own about 30 different shirts with "Brooklyn Dodgers" on them and use them to remind my students that such a team once existed. I also love wearing them.

[DODGER DEB]

I own many BROOKLYN DODGER t-shirts and sweatshirts, which always look good with jeans. I also have a few jackets and hats. They are such a great conversation piece. I cannot tell you how many people walk up to me and tell me stories about themselves, and their families, being BROOKLYN fans. The best one for me is my license plate which, one of these days, is going to cause an accident because people insist on starting conversations on the road.

I will admit, though, that the market is saturated with BROOKLYN items. Part of it is because this year was the 50th anniversary, but, mostly, because THEY SELL...and have ALWAYS SOLD....and THAT just thrills me. WE BROOKLYN FANS play an important part in keeping the memory of OUR DODGERS ALIVE, and given the fact that WE haven't had an active team for more than 48 years, I say that's pretty darn good!

It sure makes MLB look like the "prime fools of creation" for allowing baseball to leave BROOKLYN in the first place!

c.

Originally Posted by donzblock

The Dodgers for a few years did wear "Brooklyn" on their road jerseys; I believe they did so in the early 40s. But I seem to recall at least one game on TV in 1949 or 1950 when they wore such a uniform. Then again, this vision may be a manifestation of insanity.

I own about 30 different shirts with "Brooklyn Dodgers" on them and use them to remind my students that such a team once existed. I also love wearing them.

It is my wrong then. Sorry. I really thought that they have never worn the name Brooklyn on their road jerseys.

[DODGER DEB]

Originally Posted by yankees rule

It is my wrong then. Sorry. I really thought that they have never worn the name Brooklyn on their road jerseys.

I believe BROOKLYN was worn on the road uniforms through the 1946 season. After that, it was simply DODGERS!

I know WE had a discussion on this subject some time last year, which included the use of BROOKLYN on a uniform in 1949/1950, as the Professor states.

c.

[Paulmcall]

If you look at old photos of the players, you'll see plenty of them with Brooklyn scrawled across their chests.
The early 1900's, the 1925 road uniform. the 1929 road uniform, the 1935 home, '37 road and home uniform, 1941 road, 1945 road and the 40's satin road uniform.

[runningshoes]

This is the 1945 road jersey.

[Gooch]

I kind of see your point. As much as I love the old Brooklyn Dodgers and their majestic place in baseball history, I, too, am sick and tired of the overwhelming focus on this team, not just in memorabilia, but also in books and media.
I am also sick and tired of all the books and talking-heads who are obsessed with the Red Sox.
But what REALLY bugs me is when non-baseball fans pretend they love these clubs, when we all know it's phony.
But I understand why this has happened. The mass media is still based in New York (lots of old Brooklyn fans here), and many people go to college in Boston. This East Coast bias is in full gear here.
You will notice that the St. Louis Cardinals (a franchise that is just as rich in tradition as the Yanks, Dodgers and Red Sox) gets very little notoriety or exposure.

[theAmazingMet]

Originally Posted by Gooch

I kind of see your point. As much as I love the old Brooklyn Dodgers and their majestic place in baseball history, I, too, am sick and tired of the overwhelming focus on this team, not just in memorabilia, but also in books and media.
I am also sick and tired of all the books and talking-heads who are obsessed with the Red Sox.
But what REALLY bugs me is when non-baseball fans pretend they love these clubs, when we all know it's phony.
But I understand why this has happened. The mass media is still based in New York (lots of old Brooklyn fans here), and many people go to college in Boston. This East Coast bias is in full gear here.
You will notice that the St. Louis Cardinals (a franchise that is just as rich in tradition as the Yanks, Dodgers and Red Sox) gets very little notoriety or exposure.

That's funny you mention about the Cards, I often wonder the same thing myself. What about the Red's (oldest pro team in baseball) they also have a long and storied history that is largely forgotten outside of Ohio.

[theAmazingMet]

Originally Posted by runningshoes53

This is the 1945 road jersey.

I love this jersey, and wear it often, as well as the 1955 Robinson jersey. People call me nuts wearing these wool jerseys in the summer, but the players back then did!

Originally Posted by Gooch

I kind of see your point. As much as I love the old Brooklyn Dodgers and their majestic place in baseball history, I, too, am sick and tired of the overwhelming focus on this team, not just in memorabilia, but also in books and media.
I am also sick and tired of all the books and talking-heads who are obsessed with the Red Sox.
But what REALLY bugs me is when non-baseball fans pretend they love these clubs, when we all know it's phony.
But I understand why this has happened. The mass media is still based in New York (lots of old Brooklyn fans here), and many people go to college in Boston. This East Coast bias is in full gear here.
You will notice that the St. Louis Cardinals (a franchise that is just as rich in tradition as the Yanks, Dodgers and Red Sox) gets very little notoriety or exposure.

I think the attention in the media won't hurt. The team accomplishe a remarkable feat, the only World Championship in it's existance. But what bothers me are companies like Nike that want to get your last penny by selling this kind of bull (the so called memorabilia) because most of the US remembers their 1955 World Championship.

[tonypug]

I don't mind Brooklyn Dodger memorabilia, when it's true Brooklyn memorabilia. Some of the stuff you see on E_Bay are ridiculous. Frank Howard autographed jerseys. Frank Howard never was a Brooklyn Dodger. Red, green, purple, pink Brooklyn Dodger hats,the Dodgers never wore those. Or the people who are selling items and don't have a clue about the Brooklyn Dodgers. Duke Snyder autographed pictures, I never knew anyone by that name. It's good to see the Brooklyn Dodger name and true memorabilia but some of the stuff being sold is just plain garbage.

[Buddyman]

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...33222%3A164066

[tonypug]

Originally Posted by Buddyman

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...33222%3A164066

The Koufax picture was taken when he was on the Los Angeles Dodgers, it was after his fourth no hitter. Thats what I am talkin about, that had nothing to do with Brooklyn Dodger history.

[theAmazingMet]

The funniest things I have seen are caps from teams like the Boston Braves and Red Sox being hawked as Brooklyn Dodgers. That is almost as amusing as Yankee fans asking me if I am a Red Sox fan while wearing a Brooklyn Dodger hat. "Ummmhhh, Not a big baseball fan are you?" is usually my response.

[donzblock]

Originally Posted by DODGER DEB

I own many BROOKLYN DODGER t-shirts and sweatshirts, which always look good with jeans. I also have a few jackets and hats. They are such a great conversation piece. I cannot tell you how many people walk up to me and tell me stories about themselves, and their families, being BROOKLYN fans. The best one for me is my license plate which, one of these days, is going to cause an accident because people insist on starting conversations on the road.

I will admit, though, that the market is saturated with BROOKLYN items. Part of it is because this year was the 50th anniversary, but, mostly, because THEY SELL...and have ALWAYS SOLD....and THAT just thrills me. WE BROOKLYN FANS play an important part in keeping the memory of OUR DODGERS ALIVE, and given the fact that WE haven't had an active team for more than 48 years, I say that's pretty darn good!

It sure makes MLB look like the "prime fools of creation" for allowing baseball to leave BROOKLYN in the first place!

c.

I get into conversations all the time with Brooklyn Dodger fans, thanks to my Brooklyn Dodger shirts and jackets. And I'm in Pennsylvania. One kid who works in the Paoli Acme, a kid, mind you, can cite chapter and verse of the '55 season, and he does whenever he sees me. But it is amazing how many people my age in Pennsylvania attended games in Ebbets Field.

I even dug up an old New York Giant fan out near Oxford on Route 10. He runs an antique store, and he used to be a "taker" in the Polo Grounds. He calls himself a "taker," not a "ticket taker." And he is loaded with stories about how the money was collected in that old park and how the Brooklyn Dodgers were regarded there.

[BayRidgeBrooklyn]

According to Marc Okkonen's authoritative book "Baseball Uniforms of the 20th Century" (highly useful for identifying dates of old photos), the last season that "Brooklyn" appeared on the Dodgers road uniform was 1945.

The "Dolph Camilli" #4 road jersey (above) is displayed here in my office in Japan. English students regularly ask questions about this very good "Mitchell & Ness" reproduction.

Regarding the anything-for-a-buck memorabilia circus, there are two sides here. While I avoid most so-called "authentic/official" baseball memorabilia (junk like figurines, dinner plates, and cards allegedly containing a chip of a brick, sliver of a bat, a centimeter of a jersey, etc), there are also some high-quality (fitted) caps, antique-style pennants, books, and (in-person) autographs that may be worth your while. Shop around carefully.

Of course, the "real" stuff (dated prior to 1958) is in very limited supply, is often is poor condition, and costs more than a few shekels.

[Dave]

In August of '79, I bought a BROOKLYN STILL LOVES THE DODGERS T-shirt from a street vendor in mid town Manhattan for $1. That was cheap, even for the late 70's. The shirt didn't quite fit but I had to have it. I only wore it a couple of times (too small), But again, I had to wear it. Still have it. The "curve ball" regarding this shirt, is that it is black with silver lettering, not blue & white, looking more like a Raiders shirt.
Also, about a year earlier, Hanes put out what may have been the first quality "throwback" shirt (originally they were called "old-timers"------ Remember?). It was white with Brookly in script across the front. Still have that one, too.

[kramer_47]

There is an exhibit online at the HOF that shows drawings of the uniforms worn by all the team all the way back to 1900.

http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/ex...s/database.htm

[Imapotato]

The history of Brooklyn's uniform

http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/ex...ar&increment=9

As you can see,

1900-1909 had Brooklyn across the front of the road uni
1916 was the worst uniform in baseball history
1925 they had Brooklyn on the road uni but not scripted, in block
1930 was collegiate lettering
1934-1937 it was Brooklyn
and 1945 was the last year they used Brooklyn, and in the lettering you see in today's memorabilla

[55 chmps]

Probably they think: "As long as it has the name Brooklyn on it, it will sell. Eventhough the Dodgers never wore the name Brooklyn on their road jerseys".

I believe that the Dodgers had Brooklyn even on their home jerseys in 1941. I think last year, the LA Dodgers wore throwback uniforms from '41 that said Brooklyn on the front.

[DODGER DEB]

[quote=55 chmps]

Originally Posted by yankees rule

Probably they think: "As long as it has the name Brooklyn on it, it will sell. Eventhough the Dodgers never wore the name Brooklyn on their road jerseys".

QUOTE]

I believe that the Dodgers had Brooklyn even on their home jerseys in 1941. I think last year, the LA Dodgers wore throwback uniforms from '41 that said Brooklyn on the front.

The sad thing is that that west coast group thought the uniforms were from 1947. This, after they were told, again and again, that WE did not have "BROOKLYN" on OUR 1947 uniforms.

c.

[Elvis]

The throwback east coast group jersey was never meant to be a "replica road jersey" - obviously, it was white, not grey with blue piping. It was designed as an original home design inspired by the old road jerseys. Just like the White Sox current jerseys are inspired by the old Go-Go-Sox era jerseys, they're not replicas.

[Elvis]

Ok, I have a question: These days, a huge chunk of cash is made from selling huge quantities of authentic team merchandise. Was it like this in the 40s and 50s? Did Ebbets Field (and other ballparks) have a team store? Or were there just souvenier stands that sold a few hats, pennants and maybe a jacket or two? Every time I see an old newsreel of a ballgame no one in the stands is wearing any team gear except the occasional cap.

[donzblock]

Originally Posted by Elvis9045

Ok, I have a question: These days, a huge chunk of cash is made from selling huge quantities of authentic team merchandise. Was it like this in the 40s and 50s? Did Ebbets Field (and other ballparks) have a team store? Or were there just souvenier stands that sold a few hats, pennants and maybe a jacket or two? Every time I see an old newsreel of a ballgame no one in the stands is wearing any team gear except the occasional cap.

That's a good question. We took for granted the team merchandise that sold in the 40s and 50s. At least I did. I think most of us assumed that it would always be available at reasonable prices.

I don't think it was big business back then. There was no such thing as a team store that I can remember. There was no such thing as a Brooklyn Dodger sweatshirt that you could buy; such items of apparel were probably available only to the players and clubhouse employees.

Most of the items we purchased were small things like buttons and caps, and they sold at souvenir stands at the park.