new member. question about tobacco cards

[bseballcardcollectr]

How can you tell if tobacco cards are real or not. I found one of Frank Chance's yellow card on ebay a few minutes ago. Tried to find info on them, and found you. Can you please let me know what to look for? Found price list for this card at a card company that grades them, and it was worth like over $2000.00 in mint. This is not a mint card, but sounds pretty nice. Cant afford that kind of price anyway. Thanks alot and Hope to become a regular on here.

[runningshoes]

Is the card graded?

Can you give me a complete description or a link to the card?

http://www.hugginsandscott.com/cgi-b....pl?itemid=101

[RuthMayBond]

Get clear pictures of both sides. I thought reprint cards HAD to say reprint or the like somewhere.

[runningshoes]

Originally Posted by RuthMayBond

Get clear pictures of both sides. I thought reprint cards HAD to say reprint or the like somewhere.

Did you see my Ty Cobb post in your name game thread?

[RuthMayBond]

Originally Posted by runningshoes53

Did you see my Ty Cobb post in your name game thread?

Yeah, but I didn't think Ty thanked anybody

[Captain Cold Nose]

Originally Posted by RuthMayBond

Get clear pictures of both sides. I thought reprint cards HAD to say reprint or the like somewhere.

I have a few reprint cards printed in the seventies that don't. I can't remember off hand, but not only tobacco but some Goudeys, as well.

If it's e-Bay, it's always smart to check the seller's feedback. A photo alone isn't going to help greatly with verification. But a trustworthy seller has earned that trust.

[bseballcardcollectr]

The Ebay item number for the auction im looking at is 5243214277 Just copy and paste it into the search field. It looks like the guy was trying to be had at a card shop. Let me know what you find out about it.

[Captain Cold Nose]

The card looks very clean for being practically a century old. Corners appear good, although it really is very ahrd to tell with the scan. Outside toe the noted smudge or two on the back, it is a white back, wth white border for those keeping score at home. It may be 60/40, or better.
Unfortunately, the scan makes it near impossible to read the smaller print, so there is no way to really tell if it has text denoting it is a reprint or not.

[bseballcardcollectr]

Emailed the guy and he sent some much better pics. He said he had alot of emails about the bad quality. Can someone look at the new pics and let me know what they think? He will email if asked for them.

[runningshoes]

Front of the card...obviously.

I've never seen one with that perforated edge, like it was attched to another card. Anyone know what that is? And it looks like someone took scissors to the left edge of the card.

[runningshoes]

And the back...

I think someone cut the edge, but that's just me.

[Captain Cold Nose]

I didn't notice the perforated edge in the original scan. I remember a few years ago, there was a set which did include reprinted tobacco cards in panels of three. This might be from that set.
I'm fairly certain, either way, this is a reprinted card.

[runningshoes]

I Concure!!!!!

[west coast orange and black]

i'm with ccn and runningshoes that this is a reprint.

the right edge is definately a perforated edge.

i have reprints of tobacco cards that were printed in 6x4-player blocks -- 24 players to a sheet with perforated edges.
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go one step past just looking at a seller's feedback positive score: look at what the seller has been selling. many times that will be an indication that the item that you are interested in is outside the seller's usual type of goods.

I remember a book from the 70s called Classic Baseball Cards that had cards with perforated edges that you could punch out. My guess is that this card is from that book.

[bseballcardcollectr]

Question. The two pictures that you posted. The first one looks like it is perforated on the right side I see that, but on the back picture the left side does not appear perforated. I asked the guy and he said that it was not. he said he would try to scan again. I am just wondering how if it is perforated then why does the back not appear to be?

[runningshoes]

^^^^ If you were to take the card, hold it front of you and turn it over, the type on the back would be upside down. If I had to take an educated guess, I'd say it made printing easier and more affordable.

Anyone want to elborate or correct me?

[bseballcardcollectr]

Sorry. what I am saying, is that the same side of the card does not appear to be perforated in the back view of the card like it does in the front view.

The photo of the back side of the card does not look perforated at all.

[runningshoes]

Both pictures show perforation. Take a close look at the top of the second picture.

[bseballcardcollectr]

I cant tell. What about the sides?

[runningshoes]

I can't even see one side of the second picture, and when something is perforated it is done so from the top, leaving the bottom partially intact. And with that, I'm finished with this card.

[bseballcardcollectr]

Originally Posted by runningshoes53

And the back...

I think someone cut the edge, but that's just me.

Pic of the cards back. next to the staple is not showing perforation
in the pic of the front next to the staple shows perforation. I still dont think you are looking at where I am talking about.

[bseballcardcollectr]

If it is a reprint is there any value to it?

[runningshoes]

The perforation can't be seen from the back of the card except for one point just above the staple, which is not unusual. If you look, you can see that part of the perforation from the back. I believe it is the same card because although I can't see the entire perforation, I can see where it was cut at the near the bottom edge..on both sides.

I've seen some reprints worth a few bucks. I personally wouldn't buy this card.

[bseballcardcollectr]

Well I tried to win the card, but someone beat me on it. It went for $80 something dollars at the last minute. Maybe next time.