Hi! Alex Zsenyuk...a catcher for the BD's...anyone have any info on him or know r/o

[BabyFuzz]

where I might find any?

I met him tonight in the course of business and what a great guy!! Said he was a catcher for the Brooklyn Dodgers before they moved to...well, you know where

He's about 77 years old, looks great, is so mellow and I just had such a great time talking with him. I'd love to read up on his baseball career if anyone has any ideas where I might do that? I did a Google search but couldn't get anything on him.

Thanks, it's great to be here. Fuzz

PS Love the post on living in Brooklyn--I grew up in Detroit and we had a few of those things in common but your neighborhood sounds like it was really great--it was really fun reading. Thanks.

[ElHalo]

Absolutely not. Nobody by that name (or even any remotely conceivable spelling of a name that might sound like that) ever played in the major leagues.

I couldn't find a record of any minor leaguers by that name either, though my records aren't complete.

[The Commissioner]

Are you sure you have the correct spelling for his name? I can't find any record of anyone with that name as ever having playing in the minors. As Halo pointed out, he definitely never played for the Brooklyn Dodgers in the Majors.

[donzblock]

Jaykay has been known to use the name "Zsenyuk" when he goes undercover.

[jaykay]

Originally Posted by donzblock

Jaykay has been known to use the name "Zsenyuk" when he goes undercover.

Once again, a few minor corrections are in order. The Professor knows his stuff, but occasionally he floats a knuckleball that is just out of the strike zone. To wit:

The person alluded to as "Jaykay" is ALWAYS undercover, at which times he uses the name "jaykay" (having switched from "jerry" many moons ago so as not to be confused with our dear departed Jerry Stern). He has been called many things, but never "Zsenyuk." However:

Our new correspondent, Baby Fuzz (more about that in a moment), follows his/her most friendly greeting ("Hi!") with "Alex Zsenyuk...a catcher for the BD's" - leading everyone (including Baby) to assume that the team in question was the Brooklyn Dodgers - and in turn producing both fruitless research and consternation, though not necessarily in that order. I happen to know, from my sandlot days, that there was an Alec Szenyuk (kindly note spellings) who caught for the Bensonhurst Devildogs, affectionately known to their legions of fans along 18th Avenue as the "BDs." Alec did not tell the truth at all times (even down to the spelling of his name), claiming to have struck five home runs in seven at-bats against Koufax in their encounters in the Ice Cream League at the Parade Grounds. It may be of more than passing interest, or of no interest at all, that in Lithuanian "szenyuk" means "one who "prevaricates, pontificates, insinuates, and tells fibs." Then again, it may not be the same person. It may not even be the same Koufax. All the same, Baby Fuzz should exercise extreme caution in doing business with this person. And finally:

While there is reason to assume that the originator of this thread is every bit a red-blooded member of the male gender, there remains for me the faintest question of identity once again (as with Jaykay, Szenyuk, and Koufax). The only "Baby Fuzz" I have encountered, until now, was a stripper at the old Hudson Theater in Union City, New Jersey, where I spent many a fulfilling evening (and a few matinees) after burlesque was banned in New York. If you are in fact the one and only, I'm sure you are still gorgeous. Even if you are a guy with his own excellent reasons for selecting that tag, let me be one of the first to congratulate you for having chosen wisely and well.

[DODGER DEB]

IN ALL my years of living BROOKLYN DODGER BASEALL, I have NEVER heard OUR Team referred to as the "BD's".........have any of YOU?

c.

[BabyFuzz]

in the "Title" section and I was strictly abbreviating due to space constraint. Absolutely no disrespect intended--sure hope you didn't take it that way and since I'm so new here, I hope it's not the kind of board where everyone flies off the handle about little stuff like that? It sure was not mean to get anyone in a tizz and was strictly for space-saving--nothing more. Can't really see where that would be offensive to you (now that you know why I used the "BD", but you never know! Really, didn't mean to offend anyone by two little initials If someone wrote the Detroit Tigers as the "DT's" (which aren't a good thing to have, lol) I wouldn't be offended if they were just trying to save space.

Maybe you were just saying you had never seen the Brooklyn Dodgers referred to as BD's plain and simple, and I'm reading more into it than there was. If so.......................never mind!! BabyFuzz

[DODGER DEB]

Originally Posted by BabyFuzz

in the "Title" section and I was strictly abbreviating due to space constraint. Absolutely no disrespect intended--sure hope you didn't take it that way and since I'm so new here, I hope it's not the kind of board where everyone flies off the handle about little stuff like that? It sure was not mean to get anyone in a tizz and was strictly for space-saving--nothing more. Can't really see where that would be offensive to you (now that you know why I used the "BD", but you never know! Really, didn't mean to offend anyone by two little initials If someone wrote the Detroit Tigers as the "DT's" (which aren't a good thing to have, lol) I wouldn't be offended if they were just trying to save space.

Maybe you were just saying you had never seen the Brooklyn Dodgers referred to as BD's plain and simple, and I'm reading more into it than there was. If so.......................never mind!! BabyFuzz

THAT is ALL I was saying, BabyFuzz! NO offense taken!

As most of US here go back to OUR days at EBBETS FIELD, I have never seen OUR Team referred to as "BD's"...and I was simply asking if anyone had!

BTW, welcome to OUR little corner of the Baseball world. It is always nice to add another voice.

Have fun here; WE do!

c.

[donzblock]

History can teach us many lessons: the sandlot team, the Bayonne Varicose Dodgers, had to change its name to the Bayonne Bleeders to avoid a humiliating abbreviation. The team was subsequently sued by Chuck Wepner and had to change its name again to I forget what. (I believe Jaykay knows the full story.) There was no Zsenyuk or Szenyuk affilated with the BVDs or BBs.

[hp246]

Alex Zsenyuk is my uncle. He played in the Dodgers organization. According to my dad, his younger brother, Alex was brought up at the end of a season. I don't know if he actually played or not, I've never asked him. I.ve searched myself, and according to online sources, there is no record that he played. His career ended with an arm injury.

[The Commissioner]

Originally Posted by hp246

Alex Zsenyuk is my uncle. He played in the Dodgers organization. According to my dad, his younger brother, Alex was brought up at the end of a season. I don't know if he actually played or not, I've never asked him. I.ve searched myself, and according to online sources, there is no record that he played. His career ended with an arm injury.

Unfortunately, I can't even find any record of him having ever played in the minor leagues. Do you know what years he was with the organization?

[hp246]

No, Sorry I don't. I know that he lettered at Wayne State University in 1948 and 1949. here is a link to there site:

http://wsuathletics.cstv.com/sports/...073106aai.html

I know that his professional career was very short due to injury, and he had a family to raise, so he went into education. Wayne State University was primarily a teaching college at that time. I know that the minors and professional baseball were'nt as orgaized as they are now, so records may have been lost. There were 3 brothers. Alex, and my dad survive. All three were very good ball players.

[musial6]

Originally Posted by hp246

No, Sorry I don't. I know that he lettered at Wayne State University in 1948 and 1949. here is a link to there site:

http://wsuathletics.cstv.com/sports/...073106aai.html

I know that his professional career was very short due to injury, and he had a family to raise, so he went into education. Wayne State University was primarily a teaching college at that time. I know that the minors and professional baseball were'nt as orgaized as they are now, so records may have been lost. There were 3 brothers. Alex, and my dad survive. All three were very good ball players.

What's the difference between a major letter and a varsity letter?

[hp246]

No idea. I wondered the same thing. I thought maybe a major letter might have been earned before the senior season.

[musial6]

Originally Posted by hp246

No idea. I wondered the same thing. I thought maybe a major letter might have been earned before the senior season.

I don't think so. Quite a few listed have two or three varsity letters.

[hp246]

Don't know. Could it have to do with the amount of playing time?

[hp246]

I spoke with my uncle today about this. He signed with the Dodgers during WWII. He received a $500 bonus, and went to spring training. It was the mid 1940s. After spring training he was assigned to Charlestown, Va. Instead of going to Charlestown, he went to the Navy and served in the Navy during WWII. He played for a U.S Navy touring team, theat played out of California. They toured and played against Major Leaguers. After his service was up, he went to Wayne State University, in 48 and 49. I asked him how they let him play after he had recieved a signing bonus. He said that they were allowing returning veterans the go to school, and allowed them to play intercollegiate sports after returning from service.

[Gotham]

Originally Posted by jaykay

Once again, a few minor corrections are in order. The Professor knows his stuff, but occasionally he floats a knuckleball that is just out of the strike zone. To wit:

The person alluded to as "Jaykay" is ALWAYS undercover, at which times he uses the name "jaykay" (having switched from "jerry" many moons ago so as not to be confused with our dear departed Jerry Stern). He has been called many things, but never "Zsenyuk." However:

Our new correspondent, Baby Fuzz (more about that in a moment), follows his/her most friendly greeting ("Hi!") with "Alex Zsenyuk...a catcher for the BD's" - leading everyone (including Baby) to assume that the team in question was the Brooklyn Dodgers - and in turn producing both fruitless research and consternation, though not necessarily in that order. I happen to know, from my sandlot days, that there was an Alec Szenyuk (kindly note spellings) who caught for the Bensonhurst Devildogs, affectionately known to their legions of fans along 18th Avenue as the "BDs." Alec did not tell the truth at all times (even down to the spelling of his name), claiming to have struck five home runs in seven at-bats against Koufax in their encounters in the Ice Cream League at the Parade Grounds. It may be of more than passing interest, or of no interest at all, that in Lithuanian "szenyuk" means "one who "prevaricates, pontificates, insinuates, and tells fibs." Then again, it may not be the same person. It may not even be the same Koufax. All the same, Baby Fuzz should exercise extreme caution in doing business with this person. And finally:

While there is reason to assume that the originator of this thread is every bit a red-blooded member of the male gender, there remains for me the faintest question of identity once again (as with Jaykay, Szenyuk, and Koufax). The only "Baby Fuzz" I have encountered, until now, was a stripper at the old Hudson Theater in Union City, New Jersey, where I spent many a fulfilling evening (and a few matinees) after burlesque was banned in New York. If you are in fact the one and only, I'm sure you are still gorgeous. Even if you are a guy with his own excellent reasons for selecting that tag, let me be one of the first to congratulate you for having chosen wisely and well.

I know this is off topic to the thread but I think Jaykay should collect all these fictional, but fun, "Brooklyn Stories" spread out through the years and the pages of this forum and sell them. They are really witty and sharp and quite well crafted. It would be a shame for them to die when or if this site ever crashes. He is truly the Jean Shepherd of Flatbush.

[jaykay]

Gotham baby, your kind words brought a tear to my eye, as it's been so long since anyone praised me for anything. I should warn you, however, against assuming that those tales are fictional. As a kid I relished True Comics, whose legend, printed on the cover of every issue, was: "Truth is stranger and a thousand times more thrilling than fiction." How true, how true - no less so today than back then.

In regard to your forecast of doom when the Web site crashes and my obras d'art are lost to posterity, is it not possible that that the site may crash, but the tales (like the Brooklyn Dodgers) will never die?

As to your suggestion that the stories be sold.....

.....okay. What is your best offer?

[Gotham]

I will treat you to a "Kitchen Sink" at Jahn's and we can discuss terms..... or maybe that would BE the terms.
Maybe I could buy the Louis Fromm story for that, at least.

[hp246]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. I don't know anything about any of that nonsense, but Zsenyuk is Hungarian, not Lituanian. What I stated above is true. If you Google that last name, you will find a variety of interesting stories regarding such things as panthers, to beauty contest winner to hockey players. The information I provided above is accurate.

[jaykay]

See what I mean, Gotham baby? Once in a lifetime someone (you) steps up with a heartwarming word or two, and immediately someone else (that's you, hp246) spoils a glorious moment by branding the whole schmeer "nonsense." Well, maybe it is and maybe it isn't, but just for the record I never said that Alec Zsenyuk was Lithuanian (or Lituanian, as you prefer), nor did I invoke tales of panthers, beauty contest winners (e.g., Baby Fuzz) or hockey players (do you remember Eric Nesterenko? how about Tuff Dick Duff?). Yes, I know my previous post repeated a word (...that that...) to add to the confusion, but I refuse to edit it it, because as every student of languages knows, in Lithuanian the immediate effect is to provide emphasis - and that was exactly my intention.

Now as for Gotham and his entrepreneurial schemes, let it be known that until very recently (i.e., your posting here) the Louis Fromm story elicited no interest whatsoever from anyone, but upon the advice of my newly-acquired literary agent, that tale is no longer for sale at any price. Don't take it personally. I have a hunch that if you make a better offer, we can do business.

[DODGER DEB]

Originally Posted by jaykay

See what I mean, Gotham baby? Once in a lifetime someone (you) steps up with a heartwarming word or two, and immediately someone else (that's you, hp246) spoils a glorious moment by branding the whole schmeer "nonsense." Well, maybe it is and maybe it isn't, but just for the record I never said that Alec Zsenyuk was Lithuanian (or Lituanian, as you prefer), nor did I invoke tales of panthers, beauty contest winners (e.g., Baby Fuzz) or hockey players (do you remember Eric Nesterenko? how about Tuff Dick Duff?). Yes, I know my previous post repeated a word (...that that...) to add to the confusion, but I refuse to edit it it, because as every student of languages knows, in Lithuanian the immediate effect is to provide emphasis - and that was exactly my intention.

Now as for Gotham and his entrepreneurial schemes, let it be known that until very recently (i.e., your posting here) the Louis Fromm story elicited no interest whatsoever from anyone, but upon the advice of my newly-acquired literary agent, that tale is no longer for sale at any price. Don't take it personally. I have a hunch that if you make a better offer, we can do business.

WOW, jaykay, all this must really resonate with you. It's gotten you up and posting earlier than ever! It's not good to shock to your mind and body like that.

The real question is...would you really sell your stuff to anyone? I wonder.

c.

[Gotham]

Originally Posted by jaykay

See what I mean, Gotham baby? Once in a lifetime someone (you) steps up with a heartwarming word or two, and immediately someone else (that's you, hp246) spoils a glorious moment by branding the whole schmeer "nonsense." Well, maybe it is and maybe it isn't, but just for the record I never said that Alec Zsenyuk was Lithuanian (or Lituanian, as you prefer), nor did I invoke tales of panthers, beauty contest winners (e.g., Baby Fuzz) or hockey players (do you remember Eric Nesterenko? how about Tuff Dick Duff?). Yes, I know my previous post repeated a word (...that that...) to add to the confusion, but I refuse to edit it it, because as every student of languages knows, in Lithuanian the immediate effect is to provide emphasis - and that was exactly my intention.

Now as for Gotham and his entrepreneurial schemes, let it be known that until very recently (i.e., your posting here) the Louis Fromm story elicited no interest whatsoever from anyone, but upon the advice of my newly-acquired literary agent, that tale is no longer for sale at any price. Don't take it personally. I have a hunch that if you make a better offer, we can do business.

Well, there are a lot of bitter people in the world. You have to learn to deal with them.
I admire good writing and wit, Jaykay, and you have both. I eagerly await the next tale from the neighborhood.

[hp246]

I'm a bit confused here. Do you think this is a made up story? From your post you seem to think the name and everything else is made up. Its not. I was just trying to make information available to answer the origninal post. I think you are just trying to hijack the thread to be a jerk for your own cause.