Him or Him?

[BoSox Rule]

Pretty simple game. I name two players/pitchers, you give about a couple sentences, stats, etc. why you chose that player, then you name two players.

Curt Schilling or Kevin Brown?

[Mattingly]

Perhaps I haven't had my coffee yet or need some help. Should I just go ahead and give info on Curt Schilling and Kevin Brown?

For "why you chose that player", should that follow my choice of players, or should it precede my choices?

I'm supposed to choose between Curt and Kevin, so that's who my "choice" is? Then I'd name another two sets of players afterwards?

Thanks, as I'm just trying to see how this game works.

[BoSox Rule]

Yeah, you say who you think is better, give some reasons, then name two players, and someone answers, gives their reasons, gives two new players, and so on.

[NickG]

Originally posted by tibber
kevin brown. better ERA, more wins, more consistant over his career.

andruw jones/mike cameron?

I'll take Andruw. Better power, almost as good defensively, same on-base ability.

Mike Piazza or Ivan Rodriguez (over the course of their careers)?

[leecemark]

Piazza. He has posted much better numbers in spite of playing in pitchers park while Rodreguiz has played most of his career in the AL's best hitters park. Easily outweighs defense edge by Pudge.

Carlos Delgado vs Jim Thome

[tibber]

thome. more HR, hit's, avg, better defensively.

tom glavine or andy pettitte?

and can we include non-active players?

[Cheswick19]

Andy Pettitte, it was close, but I pick Pettitte becuase he edges Glavine out in postseason records: Pettitte - 13-8, Glavine - 12-15. Plus I think when both are retired Pettitte will be better overall.

Carlos Beltran or Juan Pierre

[Hammerin Hank]

Beltran. Carlos is good in almost every aspect but Juan doesn't have much power.

Moises Alou or Carlos Lee?

[MikeCameronFAN]

I was away from the Internet this weekend, but I want to let everyone know that I'd take Cameron over any center fielder in baseball today. Andruw Jones and Jim Edmonds are two of the most overrated players in the game today, while Mike is one of the most underrated. What Cammy lacks in offense, he more than makes up for with his defense. He's the best fielder in baseball, period.

But, back to my choices...
Alou v Lee:
It depends on if you're talking long-term or right now. Long term, I'd take Carlos Lee because of the 37-28 age difference. Right now though, you could basically flip a coin.

Next...
Scott Rolen vs. Eric Chavez

P.S. This is really cool!

[BoSox Rule]

Originally posted by MikeCameronFAN
I was away from the Internet this weekend, but I want to let everyone know that I'd take Cameron over any center fielder in baseball today. Andruw Jones and Jim Edmonds are two of the most overrated players in the game today, while Mike is one of the most underrated. What Cammy lacks in offense, he more than makes up for with his defense. He's the best fielder in baseball, period.

Andruw Jones is better offensively and defensively.

[tibber]

when andruw learns to quit swinging at every pitch between the two dugouts and quits trying to hit every ball for a home run, then he'll be recognized (at least by me) as one of the game's best.

anyway, as for the question at hand, it's a toss up, but i take chavez. better power and probably better glove.

larry walker or todd helton?

[BoSox Rule]

Helton in a landslide.

Hudson, Mulder, or Zito

[leecemark]

I think Hudson will end up having the best career. I'd be happy with any of them though.

Mike Cameron or Tori Hunter

[MikeCameronFAN]

Originally posted by BoSox Rule
Andruw Jones is better offensively and defensively.

Why do you say that? Because he makes more *spectacular* catches? Consider this...

(Que "Twilight Zone" music)

During 2 seperate games, 2 fly balls are hit to the exact same point on the field with the exact same trajectory at the exact same time.
Player A runs and lays out for the ball making a diving catch that is replayed on Sportscenter.
Player B puts himself into better position before the pitch and makes the catch look easy.

Who is the better fielder?

Defensive metrics aren't yet as reliable as their offensive counterparts, but pretty much any advanced defensive metric agrees that Mike Cameron is a better defensive center fielder than Andruw Jones.

2003 Defensive Win Shares:
Cameron: 7.73
Jones: 6.04

UZR Runs (per 162 GP) 2000-2003:
Cameron: 26
Jones: 15

Range Factor:
Cameron:
'98: 2.92
'99: 2.71
'00: 2.85
'01: 2.96
'02: 2.88
'03: 3.42

Jones:
'98: 2.84
'99: 3.15
'00: 2.82
'01: 2.95
'02: 2.71
'03: 2.70

Baseball Prospectus Defense:

Cameron:
'01: 12
'02: 7
'03: 21

Jones:
'01: 18
'02: 18
'03: 14

Sorry, I didn't want to turn this thread into a Cameron vs. Jones debate, but I had to defend my point.

[tearforamariner]

Originally posted by leecemark
I think Hudson will end up having the best career. I'd be happy with any of them though.

Mike Cameron or Tori Hunter

Torii, better offense and the same kind of defense.

And since their birthday's coming up, how about we compare two of baseball's most similar batters:

Bagwell or Thomas?

[J W]

Bagwell: although Thomas has been slightly more consistent in his damage from the plate, I would rather go for the complete first baseman. Especially if I was an NL manager.

Jim Edmonds or Larry Walker?

[tibber]

tough one, but i'll go with edmonds. while i don't doubt walker would have had a fine career no matter where he played, i do have a hard time believing he'd put up numbers similar to those with the rockies.

chipper jones or j.d. drew?

[leecemark]

Seriously? Chipper Jones is building a Hall of Fame case. Drew has been an injury prone disappointment.

Which will be the top free agent firstbaseman this winter - Richie Sexton or Carlos Delgado?

[Roy Hobbs]

That's a rough question. Delgado obviously has had a better career, but Sexson may have a better season, hard to say.

Edge Delgado for me, though.

Alex Rodriguez or Carlos Beltran?

[MikeCameronFAN]

Originally posted by leecemark
Which will be the top free agent firstbaseman this winter - Richie Sexton or Carlos Delgado?

I say Sexson, although it will be interesting.
Delgado has the better career line, but Sexson is 2 years younger and, although he is currently hurt, is having a better 2004.

Jim Thome or Jason Giambi?

[tibber]

when drew is healthy, he's far better than chipper jones, imo.

edit: since MCF beat me to the last question, i'll pick thome. similar hitters i guess, but thome is better defensively. and, right now, a-rod over beltran. it looks beltran is only now starting to come into his own though.

roger clemens or randy johnson?

[Roy Hobbs]

Roger Clemens.

Randy is just a bunch of raw power. He's waited until his 40s to really even try to be anything more than blow-past guy. He's more injury prone and hasn't had near as much consistency over his career.

[leecemark]

We've got 3 unanswered going here. I'll say Thome, A-Rod and Rocket .

[Roy Hobbs]

Yeah, that's why I didn't pose a new question after answering Rocket-Unit. Too many of us answered Sexson/Delgado at the exact same time .

[tibber]

ok, now that we seem to have a break in the action...

mariano rivera or trevor hoffman?

edited because rivera/gagne didn't seem like a fair comparison