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| He's a HOFer for sure |
   
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33 | 78.57% |
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1 | 2.38% |
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#1
01-04-2004, 11:34 AM
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Tom Glavine and the Hall
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Five 20 win seasons 22 Shutouts 2,136 K 3.43 ERA (League ERA=4.14) .978 Fielding % (League F%=.956) 12-10 3.71 Postseason Record 8 Time all star 2 time Cy Young Winner WS MVP Top 3 in Cy Young Voting 6 times Active leader in sacrifice hits 5 time NL wins leader 6 time NL starts leader Led league in adj. era+, sac hits, shutouts, and complete games once each. WS Champion(1995) Coming off his worst year since 1988(his sophmore effort), Glavine still has to prove himself in New York. At age 37, he has enough years left to reach the 300 win and 2,500 K plateaus, making him a lock for the Hall. My opinion now, if he retired today, he would make it after sitting on the ballot a few years. __________________
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01-04-2004, 03:48 PM
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He should be a definite Hall of Famer at this point. Whether the voters see him as such is a different story all together.
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01-04-2004, 04:16 PM
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Glavine gets my vote for the HOF now.
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01-04-2004, 07:42 PM
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List of all pitchers, past and present, with multiple Cy Youngs and 250+ wins who aren't in the Hall of Fame:
Roger Clemens Greg Maddux Tom Glavine
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01-05-2004, 08:22 AM
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I am as big a Tom Glavine fan as there is. But I would have to say at this point in his career he is borderline, which in my mind doesn't qualify him. So I would say it depends on the remainder of his career but based on his age and what I saw of him last year, I don't think his chances are real good. But I hope he does get in eventually.
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01-05-2004, 10:18 AM
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If you compare him to some of the HOF pitchers of the recent past (Bunning, Drysdale, Marichal) he is quite comparable. While comparing players across generations truly isn't fair, the fact Glavine was at the top of the list of pitchers in recent years for a solid period of time puts him in elite company. He should get in, especially if he puts up a couple more solid seasons.
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01-06-2004, 08:59 PM
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JW, looks like you read my mind. I agreee with you totally. Great list!
Thanks for the stats, EddieCollins. Impressive, don'tcha think??? There's something Glavine's style on and off the field. He's impressive on all fronts and I'm certain he's HoF material. Hey Captain cold Nose...all's well in Syracuse.
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01-07-2004, 05:55 AM
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Great news, baseballwise. Can you please e-mail me with details?
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01-07-2004, 07:38 AM
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Definately...definately....definately a Hall of Famer.
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01-07-2004, 01:38 PM
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Glavine is in my Hall of Fame, but I voted "It Depends" because of the reality of the politics behind the voting. The Blyleven Mystery continues to baffle this fan, and until I hear what's up with voters' and their Blyleven votes I can't have faith in Glavine getting into the Hall. Yes, yes, I know the two pitchers are completely different, but the voting has to make sense before I can state something with certainty. The HoF voting makes no sense today.
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01-08-2004, 06:39 PM
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I think the only other multiple Cy winners who aren't in or mortal locks to be in are Bret Saberhagen (derailed by injuries) and Denny McLain (derailed by injuries and moral turpitude). Glavine should be a lock. But the writers are so mercurial, it's hard to say for sure what they'd do.
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06-15-2006, 07:01 AM
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That the writers have voted Glavine multiple Cy Youngs is an indication that they will elect him to the HOF.
Glavine may well win 300, but he doesn't need to win 300 to get into the HOF; he'll go in if he walked away from the game today. His productive season to date ought to remove all doubt as to his status.
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06-15-2006, 08:32 AM
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If Glavine isn't a hall of famer, they should close the place down (but not before I go there this weekend)!
Look at starting pitchers who started their careers in the last 25 years....which of them are Hall of Famers? 1. Clemens 2. Maddux 3. Johnson 4. Pedro Martinez After that, I'd say Glavine is by far the best candidate. And the above order isn't set in stone...so it's safe to say that Glavine is "top 5 from a 25 year period" (of course, some youngster who started their career in the last 5 could surpass them all, but still). If one of the top 5 starters of a 25 year period isn't a Hall of Famer, I don't know what is.
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06-15-2006, 02:29 PM
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glavine is a lock as a first ballot HOFer..
5 20 win seasons? top 3 in cy young voting 6 times? 8 time all star? probably 9 after this year.. the stats are still piling up for him also.. with the mets high octane offense and his control.. theres plenty more wins to come.. he will hit 300 before he retires..
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06-15-2006, 03:04 PM
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06-16-2006, 05:20 AM
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Keep in mind how horrible Glavine was his call up season/rookie season when he went 9-21.
Without that outlier, Glavine is a 275 - 165 pitcher (.625 w%) with a 126 ERA+ Those numbers compare very favorably with the Jim Palmers and Eddie Planks (and even Bob Gibsons and Bob Fellers). In many regards, Glavine was better than many people realize. I have ranked the top 10 starting pitchers in both leagues for every year since 1987. Here is where Glavine ended up: 1991 - 1st...won Cy Young...All-Star 1992 - 4th... 2nd in Cy Young voting...All-Star 1993 - 5th...3rd in Cy Young voting...All-Star 1995 - 2nd... 3rd in Cy Young voting 1996 - 4th...All-Star 1997 - 7th...All-Star 1998 - 2nd... won Cy Young...All-Star 2000 - 4th... 2nd in Cy Young voting...All-Star 2001 - 10th 2002 - 5th...All-Star 2004 - ... All-Star 2006 (so far) -5th...will be All-Star I am not one who normaly puts too much stock in All- Star selections, but here is the list of pitchers with more than 9 selections: Spahn Clemens Seaver Johnson Carlton That is all. Also keep in mind some of his competition during these seasons: Greg Maddux, Schilling from 91- 03, Brown from 97-04, Smoltz, Johnson from 1998- 2004, Clemens, 04-06 Oswalt, 00-06.
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06-16-2006, 08:21 AM
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06-16-2006, 08:26 AM
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RIP Tom Tresh. Detroiter. Chippewa. Yankee. Good man. RIP George Kell. Batting Champ. Champ Broadcaster. HOFer. Good man. RIP Mark Fidrych. The first player I actively followed. Pigskin Fever, though, lives. http://www.pigskin-fever.com/ Come help make it as good as its sister site.
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06-16-2006, 08:54 AM
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