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| Gil Hodges |
   
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7 | 17.07% |
| Roger Maris |
  
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3 | 7.32% |
| Doc Cramer |
  
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3 | 7.32% |
| Willie Davis |
  
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1 | 2.44% |
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27 | 65.85% |
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#1
08-07-2003, 03:28 PM
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Best Player not in the Hall of Fame?
Excluding active players and players with a lifetime ban from Cooperstown, who is the best player not in the Hall?
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08-07-2003, 09:07 PM
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Jime Rice
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08-07-2003, 11:14 PM
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SANTO
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08-08-2003, 08:19 AM
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Among eligible players not enshrined, the best is Ryne Sandberg, who should've been a first-ballot pick in the last BBWAA election.
He is followed by Ron Santo and Bert Blyleven.
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08-08-2003, 10:09 AM
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No way is Ron Santo better than Jim Rice.
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08-08-2003, 10:11 AM
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Maybe not, but I'm bleeding Cubbie blue and if I don't say it's Santo then I'm going with Sandberg!
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08-08-2003, 10:18 AM
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Jim Rice was an average fielding Left Fielder/Designated Hitter who played in a park designed to maximize the stats of power hitting right handed hitters. Ron Santo was a great fielding third basemen playing in the greatest pitchers era in post-1920 baseball. Santo played the harder position, heck he played a position, in a harder league (no DH, means less at bats, which means less runs, which means less gaudy stat lines), and in a harder era. Again how is it no way? Last edited by cubbieinexile; 08-08-2003 at 10:24 AM.
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08-08-2003, 10:52 AM
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I was a big Jim Rice fan when he was a player.
I would like to see him the Hall of Fame. He was a fine player. But taking everything into consideration, Santo and Sandberg are the most deserving not currently in. It's not a landslide by any means, but those are my top two.
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08-08-2003, 10:58 AM
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The Cubbie curse goes beyond the World Series, eh?
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08-08-2003, 11:32 AM
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The criteria of the poll excludes players with a lifetime ban.
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08-08-2003, 11:43 AM
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so i guess i can't go with joe jackson as my next choice. then i guess i would have to say canseco. maybe the best all around player to wear a uniform. wait a minute, are steroid junkies out of the poll also? i'll say rickey. hold on, he is still playing, sort of. ok ok. Santo it is.
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08-08-2003, 11:45 AM
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Hey TFAM, how about including Santo and Sandberg? They'd obviously garner the majority of the votes.
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08-08-2003, 12:21 PM
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Agreed about Santo as you also have to keep in mind the posistion and the quality of players that have played that position...
Santo is in the top 75 alltime in RBI's, walks and HR's.. Not many 3B that have as many RBI's and HR's as this man... As for Rice, he has good career #'s but for an OF'er they are not Hall worthy at least IMO.. If you put him in, you open the door for guys like Ellis Burks and maybe even Dale Murphy to an extent... If you have no problem with Burks or Murph being in then I guess it's ok to have Rice in there.... I have said it before and I'll say it again, I believe that Bob Caruthers should be in the Hall....
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08-08-2003, 03:17 PM
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Ron Santo definitely has my vote.
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08-08-2003, 06:44 PM
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This is coming from a Cards fan
I say 1. Sandberg (I do believe he'll be in in the next 3-4 years) 2. Santo 3. Morris 4. Sutter
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08-09-2003, 11:31 AM
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While others such as Snato and Sandberg that are way up there as well, I've still got to stick with Gil Hodges.
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08-09-2003, 11:33 AM
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Why is Hodges better than Santo and Sandberg in your opinion?
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08-09-2003, 01:34 PM
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Actually, if pressed, I would probably have to give in and rank Sandberg ahead of Hodges. I just feel like it was such an oversight that he wasn't elected that he is going to get in the next few years anyway. I guess I consider him to already BE a Hall of Famer and so not fair to count.
As for Santo, he's about equal to Hodges. Santo was a better player in comparison to other third basemen than Hodges may have been in comparison to other first basemen, but Hodges was the better player overall. That just gives him a slight edge in my mind.
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08-09-2003, 03:37 PM
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I'm just curious about something regarding this poll. Has anyone, anywhere EVER seriously put forward Willie Davis as a Hall of Famer?
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08-09-2003, 03:41 PM
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Out of curiousity, what do you guys think about Andre Dawson??
Good alltime career #'s: 8 time allstar Rookie of the Year MVP Gold Glove'er most of the 80's 78th alltime in runs 42nd alltime in hits 23rd alltime in total bases 38th alltime in doubles 29th alltime in homeruns 27th alltime in RBI's 21st alltime in extra base hits 81st alltime in times on base His resume is pretty impressive...
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08-09-2003, 03:42 PM
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Definitely NOT a HOF'er IMO...
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