Need Drills to stop pulling off the ball
Need Drills to stop pulling off the ball
Yogi Berra was asked by a reporter "How do you catch a knuckle ball?" He came right back and said "When it stops rolling"
Take an old bat and cut off the handle or spend money on one of those small bats that you use with one arm. Get a tee and have the player hit off the tee with his front arm. Move the ball outside and have them hit it the other way. Make sure you adjust the tee so the outside pitch is further back closer to the catcher, inside pitch out front and down the middle about half way between the two. This works wonders for anyone pulling off the ball. If they miss the ball in this drill, they are pulling off of it.
Make the batter swing and hold his finish position for 2 seconds. He should finish with his spine still tilted and the head toward the plate.
I don't agree with using the normal bat. When using one hand a normal bat feels twice as heavy and form is sacrificed. A lighter bat, yet not too light, is what I use.
You can do it that way if you want to swing in a way different than the mlb pattern. If you start vertical, you'd better get into the position all these guys do at launch:
And look at this guy from the rear at contact and look at his head and his tilt:
I would agree that too much of anything is not good, including tilt.
Jim, I don't thing we've exchanged posts before and I don't mean to be rude here, but I'm calling you on this because you are a "pro instructor".
Let's say someone has been taught to extend their arms and they start extending early in their swing out away from their center. If they are tilted over when they do this, they would most likely throw themselves over the plate to the ground. Where there is an action there is an opposite (re)action. The body is subconciously keeping it's balance by having an opposite reaction by standing up. Arms getting away... body standing up to keep from throwing itself to the ground. I'm not saying that this is the case here, just giving an example. Now, IMHO, the arms getting away could have many different "causes". Bat drag, casting, bat too far behind body, extending... I think a great start for the main poster of this thread would be to work on staying connected. Staying connected will help allow you to keep your spine angle. jmho
Last edited by les; 11-15-2007 at 07:18 PM. Reason: sentence - cause and effect
A very common reason young players pull off the ball (and I agree with Booth's definition that pulling off the ball can be defined as straightening the spine during the swing) is that they're scared of the ball. Even some strong players will tend to straighten up to get their head further from the ball against very hard and wild throwers. It takes guts to keep that body in there against that type of thrower. I see this type of pulling off the ball every weekend.
"The primary cause of pulling off the ball, is a straightening of the spine.
And, I'm not going back on it.
It might not be the ONLY cause, and I mean a straightening that occurs that is not necessary. If a ball is up, or up and in, you will straighten up to get to the ball. I'm talking about doing it when you shouldn't be, and it pulls the bat away from contact.
I believe I know quite a lot about the true root causes of things, and I agree that many people don't. They put a band-aid on the problem, but don't cure it.
[QUOTE=jbooth;1051375]My exact statement was;
"The primary cause of pulling off the ball, is a straightening of the spine.QUOTE]
my original statement was the straightening of the spine is NOT a "cause", but an "effect".
Your other posts just danced around your original post. Speaking of dancing... you've had a lot of dance partners over the years, Jim. I believe when you first started posting years ago, you were a "certified" Epstein instructor. You've changed probably 4-5 times since.
Last edited by jbooth; 11-18-2007 at 07:04 PM.
If I were paying you for lessons, I would be a little concerned about you "reaching your own conclusions". That's one thing I really like about Steve Englishbey's methods. I'm not learning his conclusions. He backs everything up with science(s).