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Cowtipper
10-23-2009, 05:05 PM
Welcome to Our Mets Hall of Fame Veteran's Committee election #4. Since there is less than 16 players eligible for the Veteran's Committee, this is not going to be a two-part election. Rather, there will be only one election lasting seven days.

Members of the Veteran's Committee are allowed to vote in this election.

Veteran's Committee Members

Cowtipper
Dalkowski110
Mongoose
whoisonit
milladrive
PVNICK
JerseeJerry55
Joe Rigatoni
NJMetfan4life
MSUlaxer27

Ballot

Neil Allen
Bob Apodaca
Hubie Brooks
Roger Craig
Ron Gardenhire
Ed Glynn
Ron Hodges
Al Jackson
Gregg Jefferies
Terry Leach
Felix Mantilla
Willie Mays
Frank Viola
Joel Youngblood

Voting Rules and Requirements for Election

You may select as many players from this list to be elected into the Mets Hall of Fame as you want. A player must receive at least 75% of the vote to be elected to the Mets Hall of Fame.

Vote Duration

This vote will run for seven days (until October 30) or until all of the VC members have voted, whichever comes first. However, at least five out of the ten VC members must vote for the voting to come to a close - so, if only four out of the ten members have voted by the end of day seven, voting will continue until at least one more member has voted.

How a Player Can No Longer be Eligible for the VC

If a player is voted off during the initial ballot in two consecutive VC elections, they will no longer be eligible for the VC. If a player makes it past the first cut but doesn't get more than 50% of the vote in the final round in three consecutive VC elections, he too will be no longer eligible for the VC.

New rules added during VC election #3, vote 2:

If in a series of three consecutive elections a player: A) makes it past the first cut but doesn't garner 50% in the final round of the in the first election, B) doesn't make it past the first cut in the second election, and C) makes it past the first cut but doesn't garner 50% of the vote in the final round of third election, he will no longer be eligible for the VC.

If in a series of three consecutive elections a player A) doesn't make it past the first cut in the first election, B) makes it past the first cut but doesn't garner 50% of the vote in the final round of second election C) doesn't make it past the first cut in the third election, he will no longer be eligible for the VC.

Would You Like to Join?

Would you like to be a member of Our Mets Hall of Fame Veteran's Committee? To become one, you must have participated in the regular OMHOF balloting for 10 consecutive ballots you must have voted in 15 ballots total with consecutive votes not necessary to be an OMHOFVC voting member. If you meet those qualifications, you may ask to become a VC member. Your request will then be considered by current VC members, who will vote whether or not they approve or deny your request to join. If 40% approve, you are a member. If you are denied, you may reapply 15 days after the announcement of your denial.*

If you are approved for membership, you will be eligible to start voting in the next VC election, which will be concurrent to election 40 (and, overlap with election 41 by a few days, if a second round is necessary). **All current members are grandfathered into the VC and do not have to fit these qualifications.

*The italicized rules are new, having been approved in a vote 4-1 by the eligible voting VC members prior to Veteran's Committee election 4. They will take effect immediately.

Cowtipper
10-23-2009, 05:10 PM
My votes:

Neil Allen
Bob Apodaca
Ed Glynn
Ron Hodges
Terry Leach
Joel Youngblood

Mongoose
10-23-2009, 06:31 PM
Hubie Brooks - A fine player; an early sign of the Mets' coming respectability.

Roger Craig - a fine pitcher on some bad teams. Better by far than what surrounded him.

Ed Glynn - The only guy I know of who worked at Shea as both a vendor and a player. A kid from Flushing who lived the dream.

Ron Hodges - A true, career Met. Second only to Kranepool in continuous seasons played as a Met. Almost like a mascot of the post-Midnight Massacre teams.

Al Jackson - The Little Lefty From Waco Texas. Better than the teams he played for. Played a role in what little respectability those teams might have had.

Terry Leach - This guy really belongs. Here's his career line in 176 games pitched as a Met:

24 9 .727 3.11

The Mets were loaded with pitching during much of his tenure, and a slow throwing submariner like Leach never got the chance he deserved, even though his career ERA and W-L PCT as a Met are better than most of the pitchers already in OMHOF. When the Mets ran out of golden boys he went 11 - 1 as a starter in 1987.

He also threw perhaps the best pitched game in Mets history: a 10 inning one hit shutout of an excellent Phillies team in 1982.

Let recognize the guy for once.

Willie Mays - Explained this last time.

Joel Youngblood - Actually a fine ballplayer stuck on some bad teams.

Joe Rigatoni
10-23-2009, 07:26 PM
My votes:

Hubie Brooks
Roger Craig
Ed Glynn
Ron Hodges
Al Jackson
Willie Mays

whoisonit
10-24-2009, 04:28 AM
Ed Glynn - aside from Tom Seaver, there may be no Met player more special, more unique and more deserving of induction than Ed Glynn. The Flushing Flash. Born and bred in the shadow of Shea. A little Met fan who grew up to be a Shea Stadium hot dog vendor, HUT DAWGS ! HUT DAWGS HEA ! Talk about living the dream ... but wait ! He became a real, live, actual New York Met. We are the Mets, Ed Glynn is a most deserving Hall of Famer. His resume is unmatched. A vote for Ed Glynn is a vote for every kid that loves the Mets, every adult that can't forget he once dreamed of running out on the field at Shea to live the really big dream. He's more than just a player. Take a stand for the awesomeness of being a Met fan. Dreams are a beautiful thing and we should never lose them. Love yourself and put him in. My support shall never falter.
Willie Mays - I was a little boy when Mays arrived. The impact on our parents generation was big, huge even but I suppose difficult to explain. It truely married the Mets to our National League past. There was no question at the time that Mays was a Met and had in fact 'come home'. I don't know that this can be said of any other former NY NL player. There is with Mays, special circumstances that warrent his induction. Hence, my vote for him as a Met HOF'er.
Hubie Brooks - can't make up my mind on him so I'll reserve the rite to still vote for him before this round ends - if that's acceptable ?
Terry Leach - see Brooks

NJMetfan4life
10-25-2009, 05:25 PM
Hubie Brooks
Roger Craig
Al Jackson
Willie Mays
Joel Youngblood

milladrive
10-25-2009, 09:16 PM
MY VC votes:

Neil Allen
Bob Apodaca
Hubie Brooks
Roger Craig
Ed Glynn (I still keep my promises ;))
Ron Hodges
Al Jackson
Terry Leach
Willie Mays
Frank Viola

My apologies for the lack of elaboration. If I can muster the time, I'll do my best to give my reasonings behind them. I'll especially respond if asked about any player(s) in particular.

PVNICK
10-26-2009, 04:48 AM
None. I thought about Viola or Brooks but nah.

Cowtipper
10-31-2009, 03:39 PM
We got close with two guys, but no one was elected:




Name Percentage

Ed Glynn 71.43%
Willie Mays 71.43%
Hubie Brooks 57.14%
Roger Craig 57.14%
Ron Hodges 57.14%
Al Jackson 57.14%
Terry Leach 42.86%
Joel Youngblood 42.86%
Neil Allen 28.57%
Bob Apodaca 28.57%
Frank Viola 14.29%
Ron Gardenhire 0.00%
Gregg Jefferies 0.00%
Felix Mantilla 0.00%


Furthermore, Felix Mantilla is no longer eligible for the VC.

whoisonit
11-01-2009, 06:23 AM
We've probably seen the last of the VC being a viable forum for discussion among open minds, or discussion period.

MSUlaxer27
11-02-2009, 08:30 PM
Didn't realize that I had been officially placed on the VC. Work has been somewhat hectic so I haven't been able to check or post as much as "usual". There is someone I would have voted for. I promise next election that I will. I apologize for my negligence in fulfilling my responsibilities. Until next time.

milladrive
11-02-2009, 11:14 PM
We've probably seen the last of the VC being a viable forum for discussion among open minds, or discussion period.

Why do you say that?