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RBi
09-20-2009, 03:39 PM
Jim said due to actions he could no long tolerate.

Thoughts?

rockin500
09-20-2009, 07:13 PM
he's done. theres no way he can come back

Whitesoxnut
09-20-2009, 08:37 PM
Good riddance. Boy was this guy a tomatoe. Even by Chicago standards.

Bring up a few kids who want to be Cubs and want to play baseball. We used to get players who would kick their heels when we won. Now we get guys like Milton Bradley.

Soriano, as bad a signing as that was, at least knows he is fortunate and is a positive in the clubhouse. If I was the new owner I'd be telling Jim Hendry to pack his bags too.

Ace Venom
09-20-2009, 09:20 PM
I don't think I could ever understand someone like Milton Bradley. Jim Hendry practically handed him the keys to the kingdom with that deal. Some people can change, but some people never change. He's been a complete brat this season and eating his contract would be money well spent.

KCGHOST
09-21-2009, 07:46 AM
Hendry needs to take some real heat on this deal. He offered Bradley a deal he could never live up to. Hendry signed a guy who was injury prone, defensively challenged, and whose emotions will get the best of him when things aren't going well. And now he acts surprised that the deal didn't work out.

And the "steadying" influence of Lou Piniella was no were to be found.

Ubiquitous
09-21-2009, 08:35 AM
With Soriano out and now Bradley gone there is no earthly reason Jake Fox shouldn't be starting everyday. I used to believe that Lou was the type of manager that would let whoever is performing play but the way he is handling Fox makes me seriously question that. Give the nod every single day and let us see how he does. If you want Bradley gone next year knowing whether or not you have that thrid starting outfielder already on hand is pretty darn important to know.

gman5431
09-21-2009, 10:51 AM
The Soriano contract is a joke because he isnt worth 1/4th of that. They guy can barely hit. He runs into some fastballs but he is horrible in the field and can look sick at the plate if you know how to pitch him.

The Bradley signing was questions when it happened and those questions have come to fruition in that it was one of the worst signings ever. So they are going to eat the last 20 million owed him? Wow.

G Man

Ubiquitous
09-21-2009, 02:31 PM
There is no way the Bradley signing is the worst contract ever.

Even if they eat 20 million of it that is only a little bit more than what the Cubs will be paying Alfonso each year for the next 5 years.

Windy City Fan
09-21-2009, 03:43 PM
We all knew there were risks in signing Bradley. Of the guys that fit what the Cubs were looking for, he had the most upside, but also the most potential to flop. I view Bradly as a calculated risk that failed to payoff. I think Hendry had a bad off season, but Bradley is one of the understandable moves he made.

And yeah, as bad as Bradley's contract looks now, Soriano's is worse. We got five more years left on that puppy and it ain't looking good.

Whitesoxnut
09-21-2009, 08:03 PM
The Fans deserve far better then what they are getting under the current program. Cubs fans are among the most loyal in sports and its almost feels like the entire organization knows it and feels like they dont have to earn it.

This season, both teams, left me with a real bad taste in my mouth.

But the new owners of the Cubs have to turn things upside down. The W-sox I get, they just plain suck. But the Cubs were supposed to be built for a long run into the playoffs. They have to change directions here while they still have some core talent on the team.

Ubiquitous
09-21-2009, 11:07 PM
This team has had a winning record 5 of the last 8 years and will probably make it 6 of the 9 years. They gone to the twice in a row now and management went after free agents for the first time in well, forever.

Some things didn't break right for the Cubs this year and the fell short. Yes, Bradley is a disaster in terms of PR and now it looks like in terms of reliability but this is still a good team going into next year.

GoCubs
09-22-2009, 03:02 AM
Well, Jim Hendry did once turn Todd Hundley and his bloated contract and bad back into Eric Karros and Mark Grudz. Maybe he can convince some GM dumber than him all Milton needs is a change of scenery. :pray:

Jeff Pico
09-24-2009, 07:17 AM
I'll give Hendry that, the Hundley trade was a master-stroke. The Dodgers must have been drunk when they made that deal.

We're going to have to eat most of Milton's contract. I agree that it's not the worst signing ever. Soriano could be worse (let's hope he turns it around). But there are much worse off the top of my head:

$100mil+ for Mike Hampton (ouch!)
$50mil+ for Denny Nagle
Whatever we gave Hundley
The $50mil or so the Mariners gave Carlos Silva
How about that Jeff Suppan deal, Brewers Fans?

$20 mil isn't that much in this day and age. Heck, the Rangers paid more than that for A-Rod to play for another team!

Ace Venom
09-24-2009, 07:22 AM
Milton Bradley is done in Chicago. It's only a question of where he'll end up next. It's a shame he had to melt down like this because he is talented and I think he could have helped the Cubs in 2010.

cubmanjay
09-25-2009, 01:38 PM
Bradley was a calculated risk. I don't hear anyone mentioning that Hendry was working with no budget. I think some of you forget that the team has been for sale for two years now and the owner has been in bankruptsy for close to a year. You only have to look to the trading deadline to illustrate that. I look forward to a winter that allows Hendry and the new owners to look at the team top to bottom and put together a solid team next year.

Jeff Pico
09-26-2009, 06:11 AM
Tribune suggests today that maybe Giants would be a good trade partner, trading Rowand and his 3yr-$36 mil remaining for Bradley.

If the Giants agreed to that straight up, I would suggest Hendray take it quick before they sober up.

Also Padres and KC said to be interested, though Cubs would obviously need to send them some coin to make it happen.

Ubiquitous
09-28-2009, 06:41 AM
I'm not sure why the Cubs would trade two years and 20 million for three years and 36 million.

It would cheaper and simpler if the Cubs simply bought out Bradley or paid the bulk of his salary to the next team than to take on Rowand's salary and years.

Jeff Pico
09-28-2009, 12:18 PM
I'm not sure why the Cubs would trade two years and 20 million for three years and 36 million.

It would cheaper and simpler if the Cubs simply bought out Bradley or paid the bulk of his salary to the next team than to take on Rowand's salary and years.

Granted, it is an extra $16 mil. But I think Rowand is $16 mil better than Bradley. I don't think Rowand is worth $36 mil for 3 years, but of course neither is Bradley worth $20 mil.

Rowand is a better fielder, and plays CF, a big difference over RF. Rowand is consistently healthy. Rowand is less patient than Bradley, but compares favorably in most categories. What makes it to me inbalanced is that Bradley is a clubhouse problem, and Rowand by most accounts a plus in this area.

Windy City Fan
09-28-2009, 02:33 PM
Granted, it is an extra $16 mil. But I think Rowand is $16 mil better than Bradley. I don't think Rowand is worth $36 mil for 3 years, but of course neither is Bradley worth $20 mil.

Rowand is a better fielder, and plays CF, a big difference over RF. Rowand is consistently healthy. Rowand is less patient than Bradley, but compares favorably in most categories. What makes it to me inbalanced is that Bradley is a clubhouse problem, and Rowand by most accounts a plus in this area.

I agree with Ubi that we'd probably be better buying out Bradley's contract than switching one albatross of a contract for another. Bradley out hit Rowand this year and has way more upside offensively. Rowand does play center and lacks the clubhouse issues, but he's not a great centerfielder anymore (his UZR this year is a mere 0.3 and that's up from last year) Rowand is a guaranteed mediocre bat and mediocre glove with a sizeable contract. Bradley, despite all his issues, at least has some potential upside.