View Full Version : Ichiro Vs MLB
LAball
09-09-2009, 10:44 PM
I think most people on this forum agree that in the MLB, players have different stances, steps/nonsteps, set ups and so forth but they all have the same swing for the most part. Use of the core and the hands and initiation of the bat are fundamentally the same. But would you agree that Ichiro has different swing fundamentals? Would you prefer his to the general MLB? Or do you think Ichiro has the same swing as most of the MLB.
I think most people on this forum agree that in the MLB, players have different stances, steps/nonsteps, set ups and so forth but they all have the same swing for the most part. Use of the core and the hands and initiation of the bat are fundamentally the same. But would you agree that Ichiro has different swing fundamentals? Would you prefer his to the general MLB? Or do you think Ichiro has the same swing as most of the MLB.
I seldom get a look at Ichiro but often see Kosuke Fukudome. Are their cuts similar? K.F.'s swing is very strange.
shake-n-bake
09-10-2009, 01:57 PM
I think most people on this forum agree that in the MLB, players have different stances, steps/nonsteps, set ups and so forth but they all have the same swing for the most part. Use of the core and the hands and initiation of the bat are fundamentally the same. But would you agree that Ichiro has different swing fundamentals? Would you prefer his to the general MLB? Or do you think Ichiro has the same swing as most of the MLB.
Well, he obviously looks different in real time. It'd be hard for me to think that breaking his swing down frame by frame would reveal that it is actually mostly orthodox.
I think that it shows that there's more than one ideal way to swing a baseball bat. In college I had a professor ask, "What is the ideal business strategy?" A lot of my classmates started comparing ideas and trying to come up with an answer to the question. After a few minutes of everyone thinking out loud and no one really answering the question I said, "Whatever works." That must have been what he was looking for because he brought me in a dozen Krispy Kream donuts the next day and made reference to "whatever works" just about everyday for the remainder of the semester.
Ichiro's swing is described as unorthodox. I read an analysis of Pete Rose's swing which was describing it as "linear" as opposed to rotational which is most widely accepted. Makes you think. There's a lot of hits between those two guys.
dominik
09-10-2009, 02:11 PM
Well, he obviously looks different in real time. It'd be hard for me to think that breaking his swing down frame by frame would reveal that it is actually mostly orthodox.
I think that it shows that there's more than one ideal way to swing a baseball bat. In college I had a professor ask, "What is the ideal business strategy?" A lot of my classmates started comparing ideas and trying to come up with an answer to the question. After a few minutes of everyone thinking out loud and no one really answering the question I said, "Whatever works." That must have been what he was looking for because he brought me in a dozen Krispy Kream donuts the next day and made reference to "whatever works" just about everyday for the remainder of the semester.
Ichiro's swing is described as unorthodox. I read an analysis of Pete Rose's swing which was describing it as "linear" as opposed to rotational which is most widely accepted. Makes you think. There's a lot of hits between those two guys.
Wasn't rose the guy that mankin used to prove his theory of the circular hand path?(the overhead shot)
To the topic
Ichiro obviously is not only an MLB player but one of the best too. But I agree that his swing looks different. Of course the main difference is his leg work with his long stride. I think the rest of his swing doesn't look that different compared to other top players.
I wouldn't recommend his leg use though.