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Freakshow
08-13-2009, 11:33 PM
I realize that the Current Events Forum has recently run polls on this. However, those ballots appeared to be drawn up somewhat unsystematically, the OF were all thrown together, and they weren’t even in alphabetical order. I think we can do this a bit better. Here’s my format:

• We’ll create a 25-man team; these will be on the ballot for the final election, along with a few wild cards.
• We’ll have ten preliminary polls, one for each position.
• We’ll vote for two players at each position (16 players total), plus five starting pitchers, plus four relievers. DH will not be listed separately, since only a handful of significant players played a majority of their games there.
• Data will be provided: total Win Shares 2000-2008 plus top 3 seasons in the decade; total WARP3 2000-2009 plus top 3 seasons; MVP award top 3 finishes in the decade. Other stats (OPS+, RC, etc.) are as of the 2009 all-star break.
• Players will be ranked only on their play in the decade 2000-2009; performance before 2000 should be ignored. Active players should be projected only to the end of this season; what you think they might do after this season is irrelevant.
• I’ll try and get the ten polls up fairly quickly. They’ll stay open for about a month.

We'll vote for two center fielders. If a CF is one of the Top 2 in a stat among these players it's highlighted below.
Player 3MVP ASG OPS+ RC OBP SLG G GG WARP3 Top 3 WS Top 3
Carlos Beltran 4-9-12 5 122 1024 0.363 0.503 1373 3 64.8 (10.5-10.1-7.7) 218 (34-29-29)
Mike Cameron 16-21-x 1 112 806 0.344 0.459 1320 3 53.4 (9.5-8.8-7.1) 175 (29-25-21)
Johnny Damon 13-15-16 2 108 991 0.360 0.444 1425 52.9 (6.8-6.6-6.5) 194 (26-26-25)
Jim Edmonds 4-5-17 3 140 891 0.389 0.548 1216 6 53.5 (8.9-8.5-8.5) 198 (33-30-29)
Torii Hunter 6-15-21 3 110 753 0.331 0.481 1315 8 50.6 (8.0-7.0-6.5) 147 (22-21-20)
Andruw Jones 2-8-11 5 113 866 0.340 0.495 1381 8 55.1 (8.6-8.6-7.6) 179 (30-27-23)
Grady Sizemore 10-11-12 3 122 563 0.366 0.487 748 2 39.9 (10.5-8.5-8.3) 108 (29-26-24)

PVNICK
08-14-2009, 05:49 AM
I gotta go with Beltran and Edmonds.

dgarza
08-14-2009, 08:38 AM
Beltran & Damon

538280
08-14-2009, 09:08 AM
Beltran has been a great and underrated player for the whole decade. He's a complete player who does everything well and is arguably having his best season right now at age 32, though he has had injury issues this year. I chose him and Edmonds. I always thought he would have been a good MVP choice in 2006 (better than Howard IMO, very close to Pujols).

gman5431
08-14-2009, 11:20 AM
Beltran and one of my personal favs, Torii Hunter.

G Man

Fielding Marshall
08-14-2009, 11:48 PM
Beltran and Edmonds, though I was tempted to swap Edmonds for Sizemore.

Freakshow
09-08-2009, 02:31 PM
Beltran and Edmonds, though I was tempted to swap Edmonds for Sizemore.Those two look like the winners here.

KCGHOST
09-08-2009, 03:51 PM
Edmonds and Beltran.

Greg Maddux's Biggest Fan
09-08-2009, 04:58 PM
Beltran & Hunter.

I believe Edmonds defense was over rated while Hunter provided the best CF defense of the decade along with Jones.

ghostofelvis
09-08-2009, 05:00 PM
beltran and edmonds...

tcb~

nerfan
09-08-2009, 05:47 PM
This poll should further highlight the underrated greatness of Carlos Beltran.

STLCards2
09-08-2009, 07:46 PM
This poll should further highlight the underrated greatness of Carlos Beltran.

Not sure I understand your point - he is getting over 90% of the vote. Are you referring to his perception outside of BBF?

Los Bravos
09-08-2009, 10:25 PM
Not sure I understand your point - he is getting over 90% of the vote.I voted for him and I can't stand him.

STLCards2
09-08-2009, 10:40 PM
I can't stand him.

Really? Why? I haven't heard of any "incidents" or anything. Did I miss something?

yankillaz
09-10-2009, 09:30 AM
Beltran and Damon. Duh. Although Edmonds had many stellar seasons, his production lasted only 7 years, while Damon has been atop for the whole decade.

Los Bravos
09-10-2009, 09:52 PM
Really? Why? I haven't heard of any "incidents" or anything. Did I miss something?Nothing I can really point to. Just his generally snotty 'tude.

I don't really like Edmonds much, either. I'm trying to stick by the numbers as much as I can here, no matter how much it hurts.

Domenic
09-10-2009, 10:44 PM
Beltran and Damon. Duh. Although Edmonds had many stellar seasons, his production lasted only 7 years, while Damon has been atop for the whole decade.

Edmonds played from 2000 to 2008, and patrolled center-field every year. Damon has been a left-fielder for the last two seasons, as well as the second half of 2007. I hardly see this as a 'duh' situation...