View Full Version : Getting the win without throwing a pitch
BiZmaRK
07-13-2009, 12:00 PM
I heard that Alan Embree got a win recently without throwing one pitch. Supposedly he came in and picked off a runner and that was all he needed.
Are there other ways this could occur?
RuthMayBond
07-13-2009, 12:42 PM
All from this year are showing at least two pitches
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/gamelog?playerId=2800&year=2009
Maybe a lineup error in the scorecard?
Overslide of second on a steal? :shrug:
Second Base Coach
07-13-2009, 08:14 PM
He licks his fingers while on the mound, after coming into the game with three balls on the batter. A ball is called and batter draws a walk. The batter then pulls a Pete Rose and runs to first, then takes off for second base, only to be put out by the pitcher who still has the ball. The ball is thrown to a middle infielder which starts a rundown or maybe just a simple tag is applied.
Perhaps the batter-runner thinks the pitcher was not paying attention or something, causing the over aggressive base running gaffe.
SavoyBG
07-13-2009, 08:46 PM
I heard that Alan Embree got a win recently without throwing one pitch. Supposedly he came in and picked off a runner and that was all he needed.
Are there other ways this could occur?
Yes, here's a few ways.
A - The batter comes to the batter's box with an illegal bat and is called out before the first pitch.
B - A runner breaks before the pitcher starts his motion and the pitcher steps off and throws to the base that the runner is headed to and the runner is out, a caught stealing rather than a pickoff.
C - The pitcher throws over to first, throws it away, and the runner is thrown out trying to go all the way to third.
brett
07-14-2009, 07:43 AM
Pitcher balks in a runner from third who misses home. Out on appeal.:laugh
(a balk doesn't count as a pitch here does it? What if it is a balk with the bases empty? Does that count as a pitch?
Tango Tiger
07-14-2009, 07:58 AM
A "balk" by definition must have a runner on base. If there is no runner on base, the movement you are trying to describe would be considered as a pitch since the batter would get an extra ball as a result.