topherkris
06-14-2009, 04:56 PM
A fellow member and I are having a debate, and I'll do my best to fully express the situation:
Here are the conditions:
A) Two Members, neither member has that many posts, or made a trade on Baseball Fever. Essentially, while there's no particular reason to not trust each other -- there's also no reason to explicitly trust each other. For the sake of simplicity, assume neither trader has a proven record.
B) The Cards Are Worth 50-100 Dollars
C) The Trade's done over Baseball Fever, not eBay or Sportscard forum or whatever...
Here's What We're Debating About
I suggested two options:
A) I pay 1/3 - 1/2 of the settled price, plus the cost of shipping to start. He ships the card, and I pay the remaining half upon receipt. Eg. For a 50 dollar card, I pay 25 Dollars Plus Shipping to get the card shipped, and then the remaining 25 Dollars when I get the card.
B) I pay him the shipping directly, and put the 50 dollars in escrow to a non-partisan Baseball Fever member. Upon the receipt of the card, the randomly decided Baseball Fever Member sends the money to the seller.
The Seller Suggested 1 Option:
A) I pay the full purchase price, and he'll send it out.
He recently mentioned that Paypal had buyers protection for personal transactions, and I was protected by PayPal -- which I've yet to confirm, but if that's the case, obviously I agree with the final option.
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My reasoning, is obviously the mitigation of risk by both parties. Neither person incurs all of the risk, yet both incur some. They essentially cancel each other out, well somewhat. The Risk matrix would probably favour him 65/35 -- The Seller's worst case Scenario is "MAKE ONLY 50%" whereas the Buyers worst case scenario is "PAY 100%, No Card Received"
So weigh in, because I'm honestly curious as to how this turns out. Would you send 50-100 Dollars to someone that you didn't know -- we're not talking 500 posts and on the board for a year, by the way. We're talking complete and utter strangers.
Obviously none of this matters if Paypal has protection, and I could easily file a claim and get my money back.
Also, please do not suggest: "Put the card on ebay and work through their infrastructure..."
Finally, this isn't a case of your morality or ethics -- So please don't start with "I'm a trusting person, so I'd take him at his word..." or " I don't trust anyone so..."
Thanks! I'm eagerly awaiting opinions.
Here are the conditions:
A) Two Members, neither member has that many posts, or made a trade on Baseball Fever. Essentially, while there's no particular reason to not trust each other -- there's also no reason to explicitly trust each other. For the sake of simplicity, assume neither trader has a proven record.
B) The Cards Are Worth 50-100 Dollars
C) The Trade's done over Baseball Fever, not eBay or Sportscard forum or whatever...
Here's What We're Debating About
I suggested two options:
A) I pay 1/3 - 1/2 of the settled price, plus the cost of shipping to start. He ships the card, and I pay the remaining half upon receipt. Eg. For a 50 dollar card, I pay 25 Dollars Plus Shipping to get the card shipped, and then the remaining 25 Dollars when I get the card.
B) I pay him the shipping directly, and put the 50 dollars in escrow to a non-partisan Baseball Fever member. Upon the receipt of the card, the randomly decided Baseball Fever Member sends the money to the seller.
The Seller Suggested 1 Option:
A) I pay the full purchase price, and he'll send it out.
He recently mentioned that Paypal had buyers protection for personal transactions, and I was protected by PayPal -- which I've yet to confirm, but if that's the case, obviously I agree with the final option.
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My reasoning, is obviously the mitigation of risk by both parties. Neither person incurs all of the risk, yet both incur some. They essentially cancel each other out, well somewhat. The Risk matrix would probably favour him 65/35 -- The Seller's worst case Scenario is "MAKE ONLY 50%" whereas the Buyers worst case scenario is "PAY 100%, No Card Received"
So weigh in, because I'm honestly curious as to how this turns out. Would you send 50-100 Dollars to someone that you didn't know -- we're not talking 500 posts and on the board for a year, by the way. We're talking complete and utter strangers.
Obviously none of this matters if Paypal has protection, and I could easily file a claim and get my money back.
Also, please do not suggest: "Put the card on ebay and work through their infrastructure..."
Finally, this isn't a case of your morality or ethics -- So please don't start with "I'm a trusting person, so I'd take him at his word..." or " I don't trust anyone so..."
Thanks! I'm eagerly awaiting opinions.