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rkbenn
05-28-2009, 12:12 PM
Had a great playoff game last night. With a guy on 1st and 2nd and 2 outs in the bottom of 5th in a LL Majors game.

The batter hit a double and score 2, so we thought, making the score 5-4 us. The 2nd runner missed home.

The coach called timeout and told the player to go touch home and the ump called the player out. I thought the player has to call timeout after stepping off the rubber and let the ump know he is challenging that runner?

The kid that missed home went back and touched home. The ump then changed his mind and told the team to redo the challenge. The kid from the other team got back on the rubber and threw the ball to the catcher from the rubber without calling for time. To me that is a pitch.

Out?

The other team went on to score 7 runs in the top of the 6th. In the bottom of the 6th with 2 outs, we came back with 8 runs to win the game. So it didn't figure into the outcome.

songtitle
05-28-2009, 12:20 PM
Did the runner go into the dugout? If so, he's out.

rkbenn
05-28-2009, 01:45 PM
No he didn't go back to the dugout. Walked over but not in.

davewashere
05-28-2009, 01:58 PM
First of all, the coach can't call timeout. He can request time. Did the umpire grant time? I'm assuming he did. When the umpire grants time, the ball is dead. The ball will become live again when the pitcher is on the runner and the umpire tells him he's ready. Then the pitcher may step off the rubber, throw the ball to the catcher and tell the umpire he's challenging whether the runner touched home. The kid who missed home may not go back and touch it if he's already entered the dugout or if the ball has been declared dead by the umpire (ie - if the ump has granted time). I'm not an ump, so please correct me if any of this is wrong.

korp
05-29-2009, 02:45 PM
Thats a really weird play. If he throws from the rubber that is definitely a pitch and you cannot appeal after time has been called, the umpire must resume play before it can happen. Since the pitch was thrown its not an appeal safe runner. Also once the runner enters the dugout he cannot come back out and touch the plate. Like I was saying though I believe he would be safe unless there is some weird rule on home plate appeals.

Jake Patterson
05-29-2009, 05:49 PM
Hmm... I would like to get one of the Umps here to weigh in, but...

First - A coach can;t call time out. Only an ump can do that.
If the Ump called time then play is suspended and the the play is over. He doesn't touch he doesn;t score....

Jake