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NYBase
04-03-2009, 08:14 PM
Got back from the stadium.... loved it. Upper deck is great, you can actually see all of the bases and the outfield corners and does not feel any further. My seats were Field section 105 row 21, nice and padded. Loved them and I was also sheltered from the rain.

Every section was guarded and you were asked for your ticket even the upper decks. The bleacher obstruction (worst part) is worse from the left field side but the unobstructed seats might be the greatest deal in baseball.

I also wished the stands were brighter, they appear kinda of dark when viewing the opposite side. They'll prob need to work out the lighting throughout the stadium.

The employees (a big gripe of mine in the old stadium) were extremely nice, seemed happy to be there and even SMILED!! Had a footlong hotdog from Highlanders, I was pretty hungry so it was tasty. No lid on my Pepsi :(

In conclusion most seats are great... good atmosphere, easy to get out after the game and come in. Will enjoy seeing the place breaking itself in and catching all of the detailing that is still to come. I also loved the new stadium smell :)

RationalNYYfan
04-03-2009, 08:20 PM
The new stadium smell is nice, but we gotta get the Sox in for a weekender. The smell of puke, spilled beer, and hot dogs will be a true homage to the glory days of Yankee past :D After all, it's about bringing back old elements of RYS and combining it with 21st century amenities.

RationalNYYfan
04-03-2009, 08:21 PM
Or maybe...

Rob R
04-03-2009, 08:21 PM
I'm sorry folks, the stadium's ugly. The decks are back,back,back Chris Berman and the fact that there's no prominent blue facade at the base of the second and third deck is a glaring omission, but what would you expect from HOK. But at least they got their luxury boxes.
You're not sorry. 100% of your posts trash NYS. Not one good word from you. We get it, you're another Yankee hater, why bother posting here? I did notice that you praised Fenway and defended it. scooter, as in Rizzuto, huh? Sure. Ohhhkayyy...

yanksrule2k9
04-03-2009, 08:21 PM
How did everyone act with beer back in the Bleachers?

DHYF162
04-03-2009, 08:23 PM
Just got home from the game. First off all i have to say is WOW the place is amazing. Everyone please stop the bitching till you actually get to a game. Another thing to consider that was already mention was that tonight was just a exhibition and id say that the stadium was just about half full. I dont know but thats besides the point. I got to the stadium just as the gates opened up. I preordered my tickets from ticketmaster thinking i would save some time but the line to get your tickets from will call was outa control. hopefully they get that **** figured out. But once i was inside i couldnt keep a smile off my face! It was almost hard to believe i was going to a yankee game in another place than Old Yankee Stadium. Any way i have no complaints it was the first game in the stadium. It was beautiful! There were some points when the sound was over bearing and sometimes too low. NO THE SEATS ARE NOT TOO FAR FROM THE FIELD!!!! I was in left field in the main section section 233a right where cody ransom hit the homer and i felt like i was right up on the infield. Anybody got any questions let me know! THE PLACE IS AMAZING NO COMPLAINTS AT ALL...other than my cold pretzel.

YANKEES 2009!!!!!

NYBase
04-03-2009, 08:24 PM
How did everyone act with beer back in the Bleachers?

Things were fine back there... Creatures did roll call, cow bell guy showed up, etc. I was around there in 7th inning and things were normal.

Rob R
04-03-2009, 08:24 PM
I wouldn't put too much stock on crowd noise. Most people were just looking around the game was secondary except when Cano Ransom and Matsui hit HR's.
Very true.

atdy17
04-03-2009, 08:26 PM
What is this netting problem I am hearing about?

DHYF162
04-03-2009, 08:29 PM
Here are some pics...how do you put more than 5 on a post

Rob R
04-03-2009, 08:29 PM
Just got home from the game. First off all i have to say is WOW the place is amazing. Everyone please stop the bitching till you actually get to a game. Another thing to consider that was already mention was that tonight was just a exhibition and id say that the stadium was just about half full. I dont know but thats besides the point. I got to the stadium just as the gates opened up. I preordered my tickets from ticketmaster thinking i would save some time but the line to get your tickets from will call was outa control. hopefully they get that **** figured out. But once i was inside i couldnt keep a smile off my face! It was almost hard to believe i was going to a yankee game in another place than Old Yankee Stadium. Any way i have no complaints it was the first game in the stadium. It was beautiful! There were some points when the sound was over bearing and sometimes too low. NO THE SEATS ARE NOT TOO FAR FROM THE FIELD!!!! I was in left field in the main section section 233a right where cody ransom hit the homer and i felt like i was right up on the infield. Anybody got any questions let me know! THE PLACE IS AMAZING NO COMPLAINTS AT ALL...other than my cold pretzel.

YANKEES 2009!!!!!

Did you visit other parts of the park and how was the view? What was your impression of the concourse and also the view of the field from there. Thanks.

Drivinjoe56
04-03-2009, 08:30 PM
What is this netting problem I am hearing about?

I think ur talking about how the press box is very low so the view is through a net. very stupid idea especially in this hd age

Rob R
04-03-2009, 08:32 PM
What is this netting problem I am hearing about?
It's a TV issue. Seems the camera behind the backstop is behind the netting, so it was visible on TV when a lot of balls were hit into play. Very annoying and something I hope the Yanks and YES fix soon. They'll have to devise some kind of contraption to give the camera a clear view while protecting both the cameraman and fans.

Los Bravos
04-03-2009, 08:32 PM
A few preliminary observations from an objective source (I'm not a Yankee fan, but I love ballparks.)

Based just on one game seen on TV, it's pretty cool. All of my quibbles are pretty minor. I would like to see more blue, like the walls of the remodeled Stadium. I thought the roof would extend farther out over the upper deck. It seemed a little blunted. I'm anxious to see a day game because the location of the lights tends to sort of obscure the frieze. My guess is that it will stand out much more clearly on a nice sunny day.

DHYF162
04-03-2009, 08:33 PM
more pictures

80SHOCK
04-03-2009, 08:38 PM
Got back from the stadium.... loved it. Upper deck is great, you can actually see all of the bases and the outfield corners and does not feel any further. My seats were Field section 105 row 21, nice and padded. Loved them and I was also sheltered from the rain.

Every section was guarded and you were asked for your ticket even the upper decks. The bleacher obstruction (worst part) is worse from the left field side but the unobstructed seats might be the greatest deal in baseball.

I also wished the stands were brighter, they appear kinda of dark when viewing the opposite side. They'll prob need to work out the lighting throughout the stadium.

The employees (a big gripe of mine in the old stadium) were extremely nice, seemed happy to be there and even SMILED!! Had a footlong hotdog from Highlanders, I was pretty hungry so it was tasty. No lid on my Pepsi :(

In conclusion most seats are great... good atmosphere, easy to get out after the game and come in. Will enjoy seeing the place breaking itself in and catching all of the detailing that is still to come. I also loved the new stadium smell :)

The stadium was still very bright. but there was some light bulbs noticeably brighter then others. They need to fix that.

Rob R
04-03-2009, 08:39 PM
Great photos, DHYF!

Anyone else notice that the split upper deck is a non-issue when there are fans there? It's barely noticeable and almost looks like one, especially with people standing in the concourse, which really give an appearance of one level.

DHYF162
04-03-2009, 08:39 PM
Did you visit other parts of the park and how was the view? What was your impression of the concourse and also the view of the field from there. Thanks.
I started the game from my seats in section 233A...from there i walked around the whole stadium (field level, terrace, grandstand). No matter where you are in the stadium you can pretty much see the whole field. Right behind homeplate on the main level is all press **** and private boxes so you cant see the field from there. But the time your behind there is very minimal. I did not make it to the bleacher concourse but did see alot of people lining up against the fence watching the game from there. The field level, main level and even the grandstand/terrace concourses are very roomy. big+ that you can see the game from everywhere. A little dissappointed there were no flat screens in the bathroom. MORE QUESTIONS!!!!

Drivinjoe56
04-03-2009, 08:39 PM
The stadium was still very bright. but there was some light bulbs noticeably brighter then others. They need to fix that.

its just an illusion they are all the same brightness just the ones that are facing you look to be brighter but really not

baseballman1243
04-03-2009, 08:40 PM
I forgot to say...they REALLY botched the Mo entrance. He was already warming up and then they plaid Enter Sandman. I know it's just a test game but still.

DHYF162
04-03-2009, 08:41 PM
The stadium was still very bright. but there was some light bulbs noticeably brighter then others. They need to fix that.
I understand what both of you are saying the stadium seemed a little dark in the grandstand area. This is because the lights are above the frieze which hands over the grandstand as opposed to yankee stadium where the lights were pretty much at the top of the tier level. FRIEZE LOOKS AMAZING

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 08:42 PM
Hey guys, just got back from the game.. the place really is incredible- I walked around the entire ballpark, barely paying attention to the game, and took about 300 pics.. they'll be on Flickr soon.

Rob R
04-03-2009, 08:42 PM
It's amazing how NYS just looks like Yankee Stadium should look, with no shocks, no bad surprises and nothing contrived. Much better looking than RYS. Gotta love it.

NeoExelor
04-03-2009, 08:45 PM
You're not sorry. 100% of your posts trash NYS. Not one good word from you. We get it, you're another Yankee hater, why bother posting here? I did notice that you praised Fenway and defended it. scooter, as in Rizzuto, huh? Sure. Ohhhkayyy...

100% of your posts sing the absolute praise of NYS, the Yankee organization, and how about all other teams are trash in comparison

DHYF162
04-03-2009, 08:45 PM
Heres some more

tdinan
04-03-2009, 08:45 PM
Some shots I took of tonight's game....

tdinan
04-03-2009, 08:46 PM
more from tonight...

80SHOCK
04-03-2009, 08:47 PM
Anyone take any outside night photos? Around the Plaza.

Rob R
04-03-2009, 08:47 PM
I understand what both of you are saying the stadium seemed a little dark in the grandstand area. This is because the lights are above the frieze which hands over the grandstand as opposed to yankee stadium where the lights were pretty much at the top of the tier level. FRIEZE LOOKS AMAZING

Good observation. The NYS grandstand seems to have a similar lighting effect that OYS upper deck had from all the photos I've seen of it, though OYS had light towers.

DHYF162
04-03-2009, 08:47 PM
Sorry havent posted many pics on bbfv

tdinan
04-03-2009, 08:48 PM
still more...

JYanks26
04-03-2009, 08:48 PM
I agree with some of issues...the stadium seems darker and the stands seem pitch black kind of like at the Garden. The field also could be brighter, a trademark of RYS.

The extra foul room in the infield had people comparing it to Turner Field and the frieze didnt pop like I hoped it would for a night game. I would like there to be more blue, instead of silver fencing and concrete walls (a lil paint will fix that)....many of the little things like the missing 'echo' during GBA really stood out to me, and made me miss the old park's charm.

It's ganna take some time to get used to it, but it really is an amazing stadium.

Rob R
04-03-2009, 08:49 PM
100% of your posts sing the absolute praise of NYS, the Yankee organization, and how about all other teams are trash in comparison
That is a lie, pal. I've been critical of a number of things at NYS and have offered praise of other ballparks. You post gets a failing grade. Now troll along. :waving

NeoExelor
04-03-2009, 08:49 PM
That is a lie, pal. I've been critical of a number of things at NYS and have offered praise of other ballparks. You fail :waving

citations please

04golf
04-03-2009, 08:49 PM
Beautiful stadium, nice to finally see a crowd in the stadium and a game being played:clapping

I think the resturant would have been better suited push back and have MP completely open. Also they should cover the side of the restuarant, the plain concrete walls look like crap! It was a gloomy night but the stadium looked a bit darker. With the seats and padding all a dark navy blue and not all the lights on, it looked darker lit than RYS. The frieze makes Yankee Stadium. I think the freize might look good along the back wall again too. The center screen is almost too big. I think a frieze along the back wall with the flags again would help frame it. If the bronx court house was in the backround, the stadium wouldnt look that much different than OYS & RYS. It looks like they did a two yr renovation on RYS. Its erie because once you get into the game it feels the same, hard to explain.

The ads didnt seems to stick out that much on tv. If they removed the ones above the manual score board it would be cleaner. I would also imgaine that if this was a playoff or World series game, you could easily accomadate thousands more people between luxury boxes/resturants/temporary seating or standing platforms. I noticed alot of people standing. My only concern is that there are so many distractions in the stadiums people wont be sitting in their seats. The stadium could look half full. I noticed alot of empty seats. I realize its everyones first time at the stadium so people are generally exploring. The game was an exhibition and the weather crappy. I cant wait to see this stadium during the day now! Beautiful stadium, I was nice to watch baseball again. The camera through the netting stinks. They should put platforms back up on the 2nd tier like they did in RYS.

Two hrs off each foul poul, great way to open:clapping

scooterfan
04-03-2009, 08:49 PM
Rob, do you want me to take a Yankee oath to prove my allegiance? You can still be a Yankee fan and not like the new ballpark. And you gotta admit, this team has been hard to root for the past 5 years and this stadium may be the icing on the cake for me. I'm not sure how I feel yet about my passion for the team in this new era. Keep in mind a lot of Yankee fans were so disgusted with Steinbrenner they drifted toward the Mets in droves from 1984-1992. There is precedent for fans taking their ball and going home.

You're absolutely right, I can't think of one positive thing to say about this stadium. Can you answer this question for me...Let's say I have a ticket for the left field upperdeck, does this mean I can't go down to the seats in the second deck? Or the bleachers? This is the case in a lot of ballparks and I think it sucks.

Actually Phil Rizzuto loved Fenway Park. In his later years as a broadcaster he didn't go on a lot of road trips, but he never missed a PIX game at Fenway. Anybody who hates Fenway Park isn't a baseball fan. Have you ever been to Fenway? Sit in the infield seats next time you go. Even if you don't have a ticket, sit down for a half inning and just take it all in while fans are away. You can do it. There are no chains. Then give us your thoughts.

My three favorite ballparks were Yankee Stadium, Tiger Stadium, and Fenway. Fenway was the first ballpark I ever stepped foot in, back in 1986. Then a year later I visited Yankee Stadium and was in awe. Mattingly hit 2 home runs off Oil Can Boyd. I loved how the second deck hung right over the field at Tiger Stadium. You don't see this at any HOK parks and it's sad.

Rob R
04-03-2009, 08:50 PM
citations please
Do your own research.

tdinan
04-03-2009, 08:52 PM
last ones...

80SHOCK
04-03-2009, 08:54 PM
I still think they may need to fix the lights. With wrap around lights it should be a bit more brighter then it was.

DHYF162
04-03-2009, 08:56 PM
WAS THAT PICTURE KIM JONES? I know it was a YES network! SEXYYY BOOOTS

Rob R
04-03-2009, 08:57 PM
Rob, do you want me to take a Yankee oath to prove my allegiance? You can still be a Yankee fan and not like the new ballpark. And you gotta admit, this team has been hard to root for the past 5 years and this stadium may be the icing on the cake for me. I'm not sure how I feel yet about my passion for the team in this new era. Keep in mind a lot of Yankee fans were so disgusted with Steinbrenner they drifted toward the Mets in droves from 1984-1992. There is precedent for fans taking their ball and going home.

You're absolutely right, I can't think of one positive thing to say about this stadium. Can you answer this question for me...Let's say I have a ticket for the left field upperdeck, does this mean I can't go down to the seats in the second deck? Or the bleachers? This is the case in a lot of ballparks and I think it sucks.

Actually Phil Rizzuto loved Fenway Park. In his later years as a broadcaster he didn't go on a lot of road trips, but he never missed a PIX game at Fenway. Anybody who hates Fenway Park isn't a baseball fan. Have you ever been to Fenway? Sit in the infield seats next time you go. Even if you don't have a ticket, sit down for a half inning and just take it all in while fans are away. You can do it. There are no chains. Then give us your thoughts.

My three favorite ballparks were Yankee Stadium, Tiger Stadium, and Fenway. Fenway was the first ballpark I ever stepped foot in, back in 1986. Then a year later I visited Yankee Stadium and was in awe. Mattingly hit 2 home runs off Oil Can Boyd. I loved how the second deck hung right over the field at Tiger Stadium. You don't see this at any HOK parks and it's sad.

We're cool. Didn't mean to sound snippy, but I guess I can't understand how somebody cannot find even one redeeming feature of NYS. Perhaps you just haven't expressed it yet.

DHYF162
04-03-2009, 08:58 PM
HEY tdinan those pictures we took of the frieze are identical where were u sitting?

tdinan
04-03-2009, 08:58 PM
Anyone take any outside night photos? Around the Plaza.

Here ya go...

tdinan
04-03-2009, 08:59 PM
WAS THAT PICTURE KIM JONES? I know it was a YES network! SEXYYY BOOOTS

Yeah, Kim was rocking the boots.

Tullydew
04-03-2009, 08:59 PM
I wasnt at the game tonight but from watching on my couch I have a few suggestions. It seemed a lil dark and too much gray everywhere. It would look nice if they painted (blue) all the concrete on the bleacher walls, CF restaurant walls and field level camera wells. Also why not add more blue by having a blue facade on the Main Level like the old Loge did. Also between the Legend seats and the field level, instead of that grey fence.

Let me ask...did it seem like NYS will play more like a bandbox? I know the dimensions are the same but it looked like the ball really carried well and it was only 50 degrees. Looks like Arod and Tex might like this park much more then C.C. and A.J.

tdinan
04-03-2009, 08:59 PM
HEY tdinan those pictures we took of the frieze are identical where were u sitting?

Section 334.

DHYF162
04-03-2009, 09:01 PM
I wasnt at the game tonight but from watching on my couch I have a few suggestions. It seemed a lil dark and too much gray everywhere. It would look nice if they painted (blue) all the concrete on the bleacher walls, CF restaurant walls and field level camera wells. then C.C. and A.J.

i agree with painting more blue...i turned to my brother during the game and said man they should paint it blue...it almost looked like its not finished

tdinan
04-03-2009, 09:02 PM
It was bittersweet walking by the old girl...

DHYF162
04-03-2009, 09:02 PM
Section 336.

yea i was right below u

tdinan
04-03-2009, 09:05 PM
yea i was right below u

That's what she said.

Tullydew
04-03-2009, 09:06 PM
Rob, do you want me to take a Yankee oath to prove my allegiance? You can still be a Yankee fan and not like the new ballpark. And you gotta admit, this team has been hard to root for the past 5 years and this stadium may be the icing on the cake for me. I'm not sure how I feel yet about my passion for the team in this new era. Keep in mind a lot of Yankee fans were so disgusted with Steinbrenner they drifted toward the Mets in droves from 1984-1992. There is precedent for fans taking their ball and going home.

You're absolutely right, I can't think of one positive thing to say about this stadium. Can you answer this question for me...Let's say I have a ticket for the left field upperdeck, does this mean I can't go down to the seats in the second deck? Or the bleachers? This is the case in a lot of ballparks and I think it sucks.

Actually Phil Rizzuto loved Fenway Park. In his later years as a broadcaster he didn't go on a lot of road trips, but he never missed a PIX game at Fenway. Anybody who hates Fenway Park isn't a baseball fan. Have you ever been to Fenway? Sit in the infield seats next time you go. Even if you don't have a ticket, sit down for a half inning and just take it all in while fans are away. You can do it. There are no chains. Then give us your thoughts.

My three favorite ballparks were Yankee Stadium, Tiger Stadium, and Fenway. Fenway was the first ballpark I ever stepped foot in, back in 1986. Then a year later I visited Yankee Stadium and was in awe. Mattingly hit 2 home runs off Oil Can Boyd. I loved how the second deck hung right over the field at Tiger Stadium. You don't see this at any HOK parks and it's sad.


The second deck at Citi field built by HOK overhangs right field. It's called the pepsi porch. Think... before you speak!

Rob R
04-03-2009, 09:07 PM
Anybody who hates Fenway Park isn't a baseball fan. Have you ever been to Fenway? Sit in the infield seats next time you go. Even if you don't have a ticket, sit down for a half inning and just take it all in while fans are away. You can do it. There are no chains. Then give us your thoughts.


I've been to Fenway a few times, and this is my very objective opinion of it as I take off my Yankee cap.

I was intrigued by what it stands for mostly, it's tradition and legacy. I'm a Yanks fan but also a baseball fan. I did like how it blended into the neighborhood, and the renovations have made it more attractive.

However, once inside, the seating, sightlines and comfort are atrocious. I've sat near the infield dirt and the angle of the seats toward the outfield were so awful that I had to crane my neck the entire game. Very uncomfortable. Not to mention the narrow seats, no leg room, practically sitting on top of a stranger and the awful obstructions.

Yeah, the Green Monster and the overall aesthetics are nice, but far too over-hyped, IMO. Nothing that really gave me the chills, quite honestly. I almost felt guilty, as if I should love it more. After a while, you're just sitting there in discomfort.

Now that there are Ebbets and Fenway-type retro clones, unfortunately, it makes Fenway look less unique, even if it is the granddaddy of them all. Somehow that doesn't seem fair to Fenway, but it is what it is.

But overall, and despite my complaints, yes, it's one of the grander ballparks out there.

DHYF162
04-03-2009, 09:08 PM
Garlic fries were delish!!!

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 09:09 PM
Rob, do you want me to take a Yankee oath to prove my allegiance? You can still be a Yankee fan and not like the new ballpark. And you gotta admit, this team has been hard to root for the past 5 years and this stadium may be the icing on the cake for me. I'm not sure how I feel yet about my passion for the team in this new era. Keep in mind a lot of Yankee fans were so disgusted with Steinbrenner they drifted toward the Mets in droves from 1984-1992. There is precedent for fans taking their ball and going home.

You're absolutely right, I can't think of one positive thing to say about this stadium. Can you answer this question for me...Let's say I have a ticket for the left field upperdeck, does this mean I can't go down to the seats in the second deck? Or the bleachers? This is the case in a lot of ballparks and I think it sucks.

Actually Phil Rizzuto loved Fenway Park. In his later years as a broadcaster he didn't go on a lot of road trips, but he never missed a PIX game at Fenway. Anybody who hates Fenway Park isn't a baseball fan. Have you ever been to Fenway? Sit in the infield seats next time you go. Even if you don't have a ticket, sit down for a half inning and just take it all in while fans are away. You can do it. There are no chains. Then give us your thoughts.

My three favorite ballparks were Yankee Stadium, Tiger Stadium, and Fenway. Fenway was the first ballpark I ever stepped foot in, back in 1986. Then a year later I visited Yankee Stadium and was in awe. Mattingly hit 2 home runs off Oil Can Boyd. I loved how the second deck hung right over the field at Tiger Stadium. You don't see this at any HOK parks and it's sad.

I was at the workout yesterday and was able to walk up and down to every section in the park.

YankeeDome
04-03-2009, 09:09 PM
Hey guys, first time long time. Just some initial thoughts after watching it on tv.

-The absence of Nike ads. I know they replaced Adidas as sponsors, but there is no sign of it yet (that I know of). Does anyone know if something happened to the deal? If the deal is still on, I'd imagine the bullpen concrete walls and maybe some of the walls on the bleacher concourse will soon have a paint job coming. It's a shame cause I think the Adidas theme really blended well in RYS.

-The backstop netting was really noticeable on YES HD. Not sure if it came across MLB.TV or standard YES, but I can't see them letting that go. Of course, I can't really think of any solution either. But I am definitely in the camp that can't stand it.

-The camera angles will get some getting used to. Maybe it was just me, but some of the action shots felt weird. Can't put my finger on it. I'm sure YES will be tweaking some before the 16th. One of the roaming cameras in the outfield showed a cameraman actually sitting in a regular seat with the TV camera leaning on the top of the outfield wall.

-The foul territory around first base looks huge. Maybe it's the tarp not being there anymore or the extra wide warning track or both.

-Disappointed YES didn't have any outside cameras from Babe Ruth plaza (or even better from atop RYS), I really was looking forward to seeing the stadium from the outside all lit up. We've gotten a few glimpses over the past couple months, but never in it's full glory. They had cameras everywhere else, you'd think they'd have at least one shot from the outside. Pictures here are nice, but a nice HD video span would have hit the spot.

-Amazing how no matter what view or angle was being shown, there is no mistaking it for anything other than Yankee Stadium. They did an incredible job. :clapping


I would also like to thank all those who have posted pictures over the past year or so. It's been a lot of fun following the progress of this new stadium.

tdinan
04-03-2009, 09:11 PM
"Heineken? F*ck that sh*t!!!

PABST...BLUE...RIBBON!!!"

yankies4life
04-03-2009, 09:12 PM
a couple panoramas i took tonight, there will be much more tomorrow as its been a long night, and yes, garlic fries were amazing!!!

Tullydew
04-03-2009, 09:13 PM
"Heineken? F*ck that sh*t!!!

PABST...BLUE...RIBBON!!!"

Well played. :clapping

Rob R
04-03-2009, 09:15 PM
Said it earlier and I'll say it again. I urge people to write to the Yankees, YES and the media to complain about the netting, in case they don't have any future plans of remedying it. I plan on writing to Bob Raissman of the Daily News and Phil Mushnick of the NY Post, two complainers who thrive on these types of stories, but can make some noise.

JYanks26
04-03-2009, 09:20 PM
Thanks for the pics...they are amazing

a quick note from the YES blog.......

"I told my colleague Chris Shearn that I thought, even thought the ball was a line drive, that it was hanging up in the air more than I remember from the other park."

"Matsui and Cody Ransom hit their home runs, I felt the same way. The ball is carrying and hanging in the air tonight. I remember that the other stadium it would only really do that when the weather got hot out. YES Network commentator John Flaherty who also made that same observation."

Cool Papa B.
04-03-2009, 09:21 PM
Hey guys. Just got back from New Yankee Stadium. AWESOME!!! Everything was great. The things I like the most is the fact that you can get almost any concession & merchandise on each level. The place is HUGE!!! The Babe Ruth Plaza feels like it can fit everyone in the stadium; the frieze and the manual scoreboards give the place great character; and the views are great practically from every angle. And the Great Hall is breath-taking. Pictures really don't do it justice at all.

Now here's the negatives that I hope the Yankees correct. There was a brother Jimmy's barbaque on each level, but the one on the terrace level was closed. WHY!?!?!?! I had to go back down to the field level to get my BBQ chicken sandwich-which was delicious!!! There was a very long line for Carle's steak sandwiches on the terrace level. They should give it it's own concession stand and not just a cart. And for some reason the area around the inside of Gate 4 was very crowded. I'm not sure why, but it was. And the hot dog vendor didn't come to the seating bowl until the end of the 8th inning. Makes no sense at all. The beer vendor & the cotton candy vendor was out there every inning.

Overall though Yankee Stadium is great. I took lots of pics. I'm tired so I'll upload them tomorrow morniing.

tdinan
04-03-2009, 09:22 PM
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Rob R
04-03-2009, 09:24 PM
Hey guys. Just got back from New Yankee Stadium. AWESOME!!! Everything was great. The things I like the most is the fact that you can get almost any concession & merchandise on each level. The place is HUGE!!! The Babe Ruth Plaza feels like it can fit everyone in the stadium; the frieze and the manual scoreboards give the place great character; and the views are great practically from every angle. And the Great Hall is breath-taking. Pictures really don't do it justice at all.

Now here's the negatives that I hope the Yankees correct. There was a brother Jimmy's barbaque on each level, but the one on the terrace level was closed. WHY!?!?!?! I had to go back down to the field level to get my BBQ chicken sandwich-which was delicious!!! There was a very long line for Carle's steak sandwiches on the terrace level. They should give it it's own concession stand and not just a cart. And for some reason the area around the inside of Gate 4 was very crowded. I'm not sure why, but it was. And the hot dog vendor didn't come to the seating bowl until the end of the 8th inning. Makes no sense at all. The beer vendor & the cotton candy vendor was out there every inning.

Overall though Yankee Stadium is great. I took lots of pics. I'm tired so I'll upload them tomorrow morniing.

I believe that Carl's has a concession stand in addition to the cart. Coach Bombay was there and I believe he said it was located rightfield, field level concourse.

Ross11903
04-03-2009, 09:25 PM
Regarding the netting:

I really did not notice it, granted I was watching it on MLBN, not in HD (no HD version yet with my cable :mad:), I will have to judge again when I see it in HD.

My big fear regarding fixing the 'ball in play' camera angle is that they might put it up higher as they do at the Nationals park. That camera angle is ridiculous. It looks like its on the roof, and I have a hard time just watching the highlights let alone a game that takes place there. IMO that would compromise watching games at NYS much more so than the netting.

ribant
04-03-2009, 09:29 PM
Regarding intimacy, the Yankees were going for grandeur over intimacy, but HOK tried to keep fans close to the action. im not sure about recent citifield vs. NYS comments. By my count, the NYS mezzanine is 22 rows from the field. the citifield middle deck seems to be 32 rows from the field. NYS upper level begins about 12 rows behind the mezzanine, thus 34 rows from the field. the citifield upper deck looks like it's 3 rows behind the middle level, or 35 rows from the field, compared with 34 at NYS. I think that at most, NYS is 10 higher than citi.

now the three decks of stands in the outfield at citifield in left is right on top of the action, but that's in the outfield.

by my calculations, the upper deck of NYS is about 30 feet further back than the upper deck of RYS, but thats a reasonable price to pay for better sightlines.

I look forward to other comments/perspectives


I hit both parks tonite and came away impressed with both.
for different reasons.

Citi and NYS are fundimentally different parks. Citi is a place to party, NYS is a place to worship baseball (read the Yankees),

In Citi The entire field level concourse behind the OF is made for hanging out. We hung out and caught the first inning from a picnic table eating taco's with some bud's whose seats were far from ours. It was a blast. Great view of the whole park. The outer part of the concourse has really good food. Fans in the Pepsi porch seemed to be having a good time too. I didn't check out fan fest, but will when I go with the kids.

NYS is breathtaking. The wow factor is totally there. The place is so white and brite. Citi seemed dark in comparison. From the moment you enter the park you get blown away by the sheer size of it. EVERYTHING is on a grand scale, from the width of the concourses, to the number and lentgh of the food concessions, to the incredible scoreboard. I was impressed by Citi's scoreboard until I saw NYS.

Citi's out of town scoreboard really impressed me with its usee of lights to show outs and runners on board. Then I saw NYS'. The full name of the batter and pitcher are displayed, not just the pitchers number like on most.

We sat upper deck OF in both and let me tell you the view of the infield was amazing in Citi. I don't think I ever sat so close to the plate in fair territory. The trade off is you lose part of RF. I sat in sec 430 in NYS, had a great look at all the action but felt miles from the plate and for that matter the LF.

We moved to Upper deck behind the plate and the nod clearly goes to Citi. At Citi you are sitting on top of the game. from our (snuck into) seats along the 1st base line we felt like birds watching the game. I mean we were literally right on top of the action. The trade off is loosing a small part of the RF line Similar seats in NYS seemed really far away by comparison, but we saw the whole feild.

I don't think just counting rows gives an accurate comparison of the parks. NYS is more of a traditional shape where the seats are in a bow extending from behind the plate out from the baseline, then curving back in to meet the foul pole. At Citi the stands extend in more or less a straight line alonf the foul lines bring you closer in to the game. Also the upper deck in NYS is much higher than Citi, taking you further from the action.

Frankly, i think both parks are great for different reasons.

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 09:33 PM
I believe that Carl's has a concession stand in addition to the cart. Coach Bombay was there and I believe he said it was located rightfield, field level concourse.

I think there is a cart on every level, but the main concession is on the 1B side close to RF foul pole on the field level.

CFmets09
04-03-2009, 09:35 PM
I hit both parks tonite and came away impressed with both.
for different reasons.

Citi and NYS are fundimentally different parks. Citi is a place to party, NYS is a place to worship baseball (the Yankees),

In Citi The entire field level concourse behind the OF is made for hanging out. We hung out and caught the first inning from a picnic table eating taco's with some bud's whose seats were far from ours. It was a blast. Great view of the whole park. The outer part of the concourse has really good food. Fans in the Pepsi porch seemed to be having a good time too. I didn't check out fan fest, but will when I go with the kids.

NYS is breathtaking. The wow factor is totally there. The place is so white and brite. Citi seemed dark in comparison. From the moment you enter the park you get blown away by the sheer size of it. EVERYTHING is on a grand scale, from the width of the concourses, to the number and lentgh of the food concessions, to the incredible scoreboard. I was impressed by Citi's until I saw NYS.

Citi;s out of town scoreboard really impressed me with its usee of lights to show outs and runners on board. Themn I saw NYS'. The full name of the batter and pitcher are displayed, not just the pitchers number like on most.

We sat upper deck OF in both and let me tell you the view of the infield was amazing in Citi. I don't think I ever sat so close to the plate in fair territory. The trade off is you lose part of RF. I sat in sec 430 in NYS, had a great look at all the action but felt miles from the plate and for that matter the LF.

We moved to Upper deck behind the plate and the nod clearly goes to Citi. Ay Citi you are sitting on top of the game. from our (snuck into) seats along the 1st base line we felt like birds watching the game. I mean we were literally right on top of the action. The trade off is loosing a small part of the RF line Similar seats in NYS seemed really far away by comparison, but we saw the whole feild.

I don't think just counting rows gives an accurate comparison of the prks. NYS is more of a traditional shape where the seats are in a bow extending from behind the plate out from the baseline, then curving back in to meet the foul pole. At Citi the stands extend in more or less a straight line alonf the foul lines bring you closer in to the game. Also the upper deck in NYS is much higher than Citi, taking you furthewr from the action.

Frankly, i think both parks are great for different reasons.

Might be the best fair analysis I have ever read on this site:clapping:clapping

Cool Papa B.
04-03-2009, 09:36 PM
I believe that Carl's has a concession stand in addition to the cart. Coach Bombay was there and I believe he said it was located rightfield, field level concourse.

I was sitting in sect. 312 which is on the right field side. And the Carle's cheesesteak cart was literally right behind that section. I walked through the whole stadium. I mean, it's possible that I might have missed the concession on the terrace level, but I really don't think it was there. How would it explain that ridicilously long line at the cart?

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 09:41 PM
I was sitting in sect. 312 which is on the right field side. And the Carle's cheesesteak cart was literally right behind that section. I walked through the whole stadium. I mean, it's possible that I might have missed the concession on the terrace level, but I really don't think it was there. How would it explain that ridicilously long line at the cart?

It's there.

Cool Papa B.
04-03-2009, 09:43 PM
I hit both parks tonite and came away impressed with both.
for different reasons.

Citi and NYS are fundimentally different parks. Citi is a place to party, NYS is a place to worship baseball (read the Yankees),

In Citi The entire field level concourse behind the OF is made for hanging out. We hung out and caught the first inning from a picnic table eating taco's with some bud's whose seats were far from ours. It was a blast. Great view of the whole park. The outer part of the concourse has really good food. Fans in the Pepsi porch seemed to be having a good time too. I didn't check out fan fest, but will when I go with the kids.

NYS is breathtaking. The wow factor is totally there. The place is so white and brite. Citi seemed dark in comparison. From the moment you enter the park you get blown away by the sheer size of it. EVERYTHING is on a grand scale, from the width of the concourses, to the number and lentgh of the food concessions, to the incredible scoreboard. I was impressed by Citi's scoreboard until I saw NYS.

Citi's out of town scoreboard really impressed me with its usee of lights to show outs and runners on board. Then I saw NYS'. The full name of the batter and pitcher are displayed, not just the pitchers number like on most.

We sat upper deck OF in both and let me tell you the view of the infield was amazing in Citi. I don't think I ever sat so close to the plate in fair territory. The trade off is you lose part of RF. I sat in sec 430 in NYS, had a great look at all the action but felt miles from the plate and for that matter the LF.

We moved to Upper deck behind the plate and the nod clearly goes to Citi. At Citi you are sitting on top of the game. from our (snuck into) seats along the 1st base line we felt like birds watching the game. I mean we were literally right on top of the action. The trade off is loosing a small part of the RF line Similar seats in NYS seemed really far away by comparison, but we saw the whole feild.

I don't think just counting rows gives an accurate comparison of the parks. NYS is more of a traditional shape where the seats are in a bow extending from behind the plate out from the baseline, then curving back in to meet the foul pole. At Citi the stands extend in more or less a straight line alonf the foul lines bring you closer in to the game. Also the upper deck in NYS is much higher than Citi, taking you further from the action.

Frankly, i think both parks are great for different reasons.

Dude, you went to both stadiums in one night?!?! I didn't think that would even be possible. I tip my hat off to you.

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 09:44 PM
Photos I took: http://www.flickr.com/photos/20503670@N05/sets/72157616326114534/detail/

Here are a sample:

From the Jim Beam Suite area:






This quote changes every few seconds to a new yogism.. it's a nice touch

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 09:44 PM

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 09:45 PM
These gates can block the main concourse from getting to the field concourse

Cool Papa B.
04-03-2009, 09:45 PM
It's there.





I know it was on the field level concessions. I'm talking about the terrace level concessions. I only saw a cart for Carle's not a concession on the terrace level.

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 09:45 PM
So is Mohegan Sun Sports Bar open to everyone?

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 09:46 PM
And more photos/videos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/20503670@N05/sets/72157616326114534/detail/

Mattingly85MVP
04-03-2009, 09:46 PM
I went today too, loved everything about it with the exception of the ushers not letting people down to take pictures three hours before game time, and they won't let you down the right field stands for bp which really sucks imo...other wise I love the place

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 09:46 PM
So is Mohegan Sun Sports Bar open to everyone?

Just today it was... and tomorrow.

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 09:46 PM
I know it was on the field level concessions. I'm talking about the terrace level concessions. I only saw a cart for Carle's not a concession on the terrace level.

I think that's the only one, the rest of the levels have carts.

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 09:47 PM
Just today it was... and tomorrow.

What about during the season, how do you get access?

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 09:49 PM
What about during the season, how do you get access?

I heard you gotta be a full season ticket holder (not even a partial plan), then you can buy membership to it.

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 09:59 PM
Did they have the World Series trophies in the museum?

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 10:09 PM
Did they have the World Series trophies in the museum?

Nope- it's actually really small- it's nice for what it is, with the signed balls, the NYS locker, Thurman's locker, a seat from 1923, 1950's and RYS, an ode to Babe Ruth, the Negro Leagues, a model of NYS, but... there could be more. The line to get in was really really long at times- it's probably not worth missing the game for- wait till you take the tour.

I took a bunch of pics that covers all angles of it:

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 10:11 PM
You can see the displays for the seats in the background:


Plus what I posted above.

McDodger
04-03-2009, 10:13 PM
Let me ask...did it seem like NYS will play more like a bandbox? I know the dimensions are the same but it looked like the ball really carried well and it was only 50 degrees. Looks like Arod and Tex might like this park much more then C.C. and A.J.

The dimensions are NOT the same, despite what has been claimed by the Yankees brass. Right field is shaped differently than RYS and is about 10 ft shallower in the mid alley. Not to mention that the walls are shorter in places than RYS. IMO this park will play noticeably bandboxier than RYS, but time will tell.

This park is beautiful, but that net is a disgrace and must be fixed.

curb my enthusiasm
04-03-2009, 10:13 PM
I went today, and I love the place, but the ushers really have to loosen up. Asking for your tickets in the nosebleed sections and bleachers is overkill. Also, they need to do something about the lines at Carl's Cheesesteaks. Waiting for 25 minutes was a bit too long.

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 10:14 PM
I went today, and I love the place, but the ushers really have to loosen up. Asking for your tickets in the nosebleed sections and bleachers is overkill.

They didn't ask me once in the terrace suites, except for entering the lounge, yet they did for the bleachers.. it was weird lol

jimmyjimjimz
04-03-2009, 10:14 PM
ok this might be a stupid question but..............

..................I don't know what garlic fries are, so can someone tell me? and do they taste good? I'm assuming theyre french fries with garlic sprinkled on them.

anyway, the stadium looked awesome on TV, and I'm trying to get tickets from a buddy who has season tix. Hopefully I can get them and finally try garlic fries.

JC Daly
04-03-2009, 10:15 PM
YanksRule, great photos! Where about was that Yogi sign, lol? I like it

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 10:18 PM
YanksRule, great photos! Where about was that Yogi sign, lol? I like it

Thanks! I think it's on the Main level, near the angled staircase.. I don't remember for sure though. The Main level has some sweet displays- between that and the silhouette animation thing:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20503670@N05/3396586495/in/set-72157615959997859/

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 10:18 PM
Nope- it's actually really small- it's nice for what it is, with the signed balls, the NYS locker, Thurman's locker, a seat from 1923, 1950's and RYS, an ode to Babe Ruth, the Negro Leagues, a model of NYS, but... there could be more. The line to get in was really really long at times- it's probably not worth missing the game for- wait till you take the tour

So it's safe to say it looks nothing like this rendering..

Rob R
04-03-2009, 10:18 PM
I hit both parks tonite and came away impressed with both.
for different reasons.

Citi and NYS are fundimentally different parks. Citi is a place to party, NYS is a place to worship baseball (read the Yankees),

In Citi The entire field level concourse behind the OF is made for hanging out. We hung out and caught the first inning from a picnic table eating taco's with some bud's whose seats were far from ours. It was a blast. Great view of the whole park. The outer part of the concourse has really good food. Fans in the Pepsi porch seemed to be having a good time too. I didn't check out fan fest, but will when I go with the kids.

NYS is breathtaking. The wow factor is totally there. The place is so white and brite. Citi seemed dark in comparison. From the moment you enter the park you get blown away by the sheer size of it. EVERYTHING is on a grand scale, from the width of the concourses, to the number and lentgh of the food concessions, to the incredible scoreboard. I was impressed by Citi's scoreboard until I saw NYS.

Citi's out of town scoreboard really impressed me with its usee of lights to show outs and runners on board. Then I saw NYS'. The full name of the batter and pitcher are displayed, not just the pitchers number like on most.

We sat upper deck OF in both and let me tell you the view of the infield was amazing in Citi. I don't think I ever sat so close to the plate in fair territory. The trade off is you lose part of RF. I sat in sec 430 in NYS, had a great look at all the action but felt miles from the plate and for that matter the LF.

We moved to Upper deck behind the plate and the nod clearly goes to Citi. At Citi you are sitting on top of the game. from our (snuck into) seats along the 1st base line we felt like birds watching the game. I mean we were literally right on top of the action. The trade off is loosing a small part of the RF line Similar seats in NYS seemed really far away by comparison, but we saw the whole feild.

I don't think just counting rows gives an accurate comparison of the parks. NYS is more of a traditional shape where the seats are in a bow extending from behind the plate out from the baseline, then curving back in to meet the foul pole. At Citi the stands extend in more or less a straight line alonf the foul lines bring you closer in to the game. Also the upper deck in NYS is much higher than Citi, taking you further from the action.

Frankly, i think both parks are great for different reasons.

Incredible, fair, objective review.

Only one thing, regarding NYS's upper deck. You sat in section 430 which is fairly deep into the outfield. A good buddy of mine sat in section 422, a little off the plate on the 3b side. He said that he actually felt closer to the action than in similar seats at RYS. My guess is that Citi still feels closer and is more intimate, considering the capacity is 10,000 seats less, which essentially is the entire NYS upper deck. Chop that off, and the terrace seats would be the equivalent of Citi's upper deck. That's the trade-off. Larger capacity, but further away in the upper deck,

Of course, that means nothing to the fan seated there. The bottom line is that Citi's upper deck places you closer to the action.

jimmyjimjimz
04-03-2009, 10:20 PM
They didn't ask me once in the terrace suites, except for entering the lounge, yet they did for the bleachers.. it was weird lol

so if u wanna go to the food court in the bleachers, they ask u for your ticket and if you're not in the bleachers, u can't go to that food court? Or do they ask for your ticket just to prove u bought a ticket?

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 10:22 PM
so if u wanna go to the food court in the bleachers, they ask u for your ticket and if you're not in the bleachers, u can't go to that food court? Or do they ask for your ticket just to prove u bought a ticket?

They asked for a ticket when trying to go down to the actual benches- probably because they don't want people with $5 seats going into the non-obstructed sections. The food court is open for all.

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 10:22 PM
so if u wanna go to the food court in the bleachers, they ask u for your ticket and if you're not in the bleachers, u can't go to that food court? Or do they ask for your ticket just to prove u bought a ticket?

No, you can walk around the whole ballpark, all the concourses, you just can't walk down to the seating area without a ticket for a seat in that section.

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 10:24 PM
No, you can walk around the whole ballpark, all the concourses, you just can't walk down to the seating area with a ticket for a seat in that section.

I'm still not so sure the field concourse will be open for all once the season begins- I mean, the fences are installed to keep people out and everything.

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 10:25 PM
I'm still not so sure the field concourse will be open for all once the season begins- I mean, the fences are installed to keep people out and everything.

What fences?

Cool Papa B.
04-03-2009, 10:25 PM
You can see the displays for the seats in the background:


Plus what I posted above.

Nice pics YanksRule. I was so tired from walking around today that I forgot about the museum. Wow, I didn't know they had displays about the negro leagues. I've got to check that out next time. I wish they had the flags up on the freize though. It better be there for opening day. There's definitely some kinks to be worked out with the vendors & ushers-this is all new for everyone. But I think everything will be fine.

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 10:26 PM
What fences?

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 10:29 PM
Oh that's right, I remember those. I guess you may be right.

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 10:32 PM
Nice pics YanksRule. I was so tired from walking around today that I forgot about the museum. Wow, I didn't know they had displays about the negro leagues. I've got to check that out next time. I wish they had the flags up on the freize though. It better be there for opening day. There's definitely some kinks to be worked out with the vendors & ushers-this is all new for everyone. But I think everything will be fine.

Thanks! Yeah, i'm dead tired from walking for 3 hours in my work shoes of all things... tomorrow (today) I have seats in the Legends level, I think I'm just going to stay in that area and relax.

The museum is nice, just don't miss the game for it =)

And yeah, the vendors didn't know where everything is, and they were definitely slow on the registers.. they'll work out the kinks soon. I noticed the same problem at Citi Field last week.

NYaDiO
04-03-2009, 10:35 PM
No, you can walk around the whole ballpark, all the concourses, you just can't walk down to the seating area with a ticket for a seat in that section.

Yeah that happened to me during BP haha. I was like "aww man I just wanna take a few pictures." But the guy was like I can't let you in.

Rob R
04-03-2009, 10:36 PM
This park is beautiful, but that net is a disgrace and must be fixed.
Couldn't agree more.

Rob R
04-03-2009, 10:37 PM
I know it was on the field level concessions. I'm talking about the terrace level concessions. I only saw a cart for Carle's not a concession on the terrace level.

Sorry. I misunderstood.

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 10:37 PM
Was it just me, or was there not enough ramps and stairs to get to the upper levels? That's the one complaint I do have.

Also, it's gonna be REALLY hard to be in the Great Hall and watch RYS being ripped apart.. we'll get a good view of it:

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 10:37 PM
Is there anything else these fences could be used for?

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 10:40 PM
Is there anything else these fences could be used for?

Ya know, In the Yankee Stadium A-Z guide, it used to say just last week that the field level concourse is just for field level ticket holders.. it caused a stir in the Construction forum that the food court was just for them... I went back to quote it, and that line is gone.... I wonder if they lightened up things a bit?

EDIT: I found the post where the A-Z guide was copied last week:

"FIELD LEVEL FOOD COURT
The food court located near Section 126 on the Field Level offers guests a taste of New York with a variety of concessions, including Boar¹s Head deli sandwiches, Famous Famiglia pizza and Asian cuisine. Please note that only Field Level and Legends ticket holders have access to the Field Level."

Now it says:
"FIELD LEVEL FOOD COURT
The food court located near Section 126 on the Field Level offers guests a taste of New York with a variety of concessions, including Boar¹s Head deli sandwiches, Famous Famiglia pizza and Asian cuisine."

Notice the last line missing =)

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 10:41 PM
Ya know, In the Yankee Stadium A-Z guide, it used to say just last week that the field level concourse is just for field level ticket holders.. I went back to quote it, and that line is gone.... I wonder if they lightened up things a bit?

They might of realized that would piss people off, but maybe only use them for big games (post season/world series games) when they let a lot extra people in the ballpark, and they don't want all those extra people on the field level concourse.

Rob R
04-03-2009, 10:44 PM
YanksRule, thanks for the great photos. After you rest those tired feet for the night, I'd love to hear your overall impressions of NYS and Citi when you get the chance.

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 10:45 PM
Was it just me, or was there not enough ramps and stairs to get to the upper levels? That's the one complaint I do have.

Also, it's gonna be REALLY hard to be in the Great Hall and watch RYS being ripped apart.. we'll get a good view of it:



Can anyone use the elevators?

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 10:46 PM
Can anyone use the elevators?

Yeah, anyone can, but they are slow.. and I don't know.. something about a baseball stadium and an elevator doesn't seem right

And one was broken already lol



But again.. I'm just nitpicking.. the place is incredible... I've been to a good 10 or 11 MLB ballparks.. most of them I can see some similarities between each other.. this place with the grandness and openness of the Great Hall and mix of history, nostalgia, and modernness is like no place I've ever seen

NYBase
04-03-2009, 10:46 PM
Can anyone use the elevators?

Yup! Anyone... :)

The elevator operators were yelling for people to come in and ride up, kinda like vendors.

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 10:48 PM
Yeah, anyone can, but they are slow.. and I don't know.. something about a baseball stadium and an elevator doesn't seem right

It's good for people in wheelchairs or crutches, or elderly people.

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 10:48 PM
Yup! Anyone... :)

The elevator operators were yelling for people to come in and ride up, kinda like vendors.

Haha, that's funny... Is it me or did the people there seem overly nice?

Rob R
04-03-2009, 10:49 PM
They might of realized that would piss people off, but maybe only use them for big games (post season/world series games) when they let a lot extra people in the ballpark, and they don't want all those extra people on the field level concourse.
Papa B called a NYS rep and was told that all concourses will be open to everyone; that they changed their original plan.

Same was said on riveravenue blues dot com, that after hearing complaints, the Yanks had a change of heart and decided to open all concourses to the public.

mets16
04-03-2009, 10:49 PM
Was at the game tonight. Or should I say yesterday? I will post the pics later today, I am so tired. Full review too, the place was beautiful.

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 10:50 PM
Papa B called a NYS rep and was told that all concourses will be open to everyone; that they changed their original plan.

Same was said on riveravenue blues dot com, that after hearing complaints, the Yanks had a change of heart and decided to open all concourses to the public.

Well thats great news, now hopefully that same pressure can fix that netting for you Rob.

Rob R
04-03-2009, 10:53 PM
Well thats great news, now hopefully that same pressure can fix that netting for you Rob.

:laugh I'm telling you, it was as annoying as a gnat and the more I tried to ignore it, the more I focused on it! Here, I couldn't wait to see my first NYS game on HDTV and then that freakin net gnat!

Rob R
04-03-2009, 10:55 PM
Was at the game tonight. Or should I say yesterday? I will post the pics later today, I am so tired. Full review too, the place was beautiful.

Looking forward to seeing those pics and your review.

YanksRule
04-03-2009, 10:55 PM
It's good for people in wheelchairs or crutches, or elderly people.

I agree... though going by the size of them and lack of ramps and stairs, they were made for everyone.

Rob R
04-03-2009, 10:56 PM
Haha, that's funny... Is it me or did the people there seem overly nice?

Nice? New Yorkers in the service industry?? They should be ashamed of themselves! I want mean and nasty.

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 11:00 PM
Nice? New Yorkers in the service industry?? They should be ashamed of themselves! I want mean and nasty.

There all probably just happy to have the job in this economic climate, can't blame them...

Coach Bombay
04-03-2009, 11:01 PM
:laugh I'm telling you, it was as annoying as a gnat and the more I tried to ignore it, the more I focused on it! Here, I couldn't wait to see my first NYS game on HDTV and then that freakin net gnat!

It honestly didn't bother me

JC Daly
04-03-2009, 11:03 PM
Thanks! I think it's on the Main level, near the angled staircase.. I don't remember for sure though. The Main level has some sweet displays- between that and the silhouette animation thing:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20503670@N05/3396586495/in/set-72157615959997859/

Gotcha, I think I spent the least amount of time on the Main level, which would explain why I missed it! Thanks!

Cool Papa B.
04-03-2009, 11:07 PM
Yup! Anyone... :)

The elevator operators were yelling for people to come in and ride up, kinda like vendors.

The elevator operatores, vendors, and workers were all very nice and polite and very open and willing to help. My only criticism was that most of them still didn't know where everything was. Maybe they didn't get enough training...I don't know. But if I'm looking for a Brother Jimmy's BBQ I expect them to tell me where one is one the level I'm sitting and if that cart is closed they should know so that I'm not wandering around looking.

jimmyjimjimz
04-03-2009, 11:09 PM
They asked for a ticket when trying to go down to the actual benches- probably because they don't want people with $5 seats going into the non-obstructed sections. The food court is open for all.





No, you can walk around the whole ballpark, all the concourses, you just can't walk down to the seating area without a ticket for a seat in that section.


Oh, ok. I got ya now.

CFmets09
04-03-2009, 11:10 PM
The elevator operatores, vendors, and workers were all very nice and polite and very open and willing to help. My only criticism was that most of them still didn't know where everything was. Maybe they didn't get enough training...I don't know. But if I'm looking for a Brother Jimmy's BBQ I expect them to tell me where one is one the level I'm sitting and if that cart is closed they should know so that I'm not wandering around looking.

haha it seems like everybody was saying the employees at citi were ridiculously nice as well.....I think that will start to wear off as the season progresses as everybody is so enthusiastic about the new parks, but it was still nice to see

Yankeefan3783
04-03-2009, 11:13 PM
I just got back home a little while ago from the game. Yankee Stadium is INCREDIBLE! It surpassed all my expectations. The Great Hall is great, the view from the concourses are exceptional, and one of my favorite features is the food court in center field. The best part is the new stadium feels like Yankee Stadium. I sat in the Terrance section and didn't feel far from the action at all. There's no doubt this stadium will be just as opposing to the visiting team as the old one. I'll post some pictures tomorrow.

Cool Papa B.
04-03-2009, 11:17 PM
Yeah, anyone can, but they are slow.. and I don't know.. something about a baseball stadium and an elevator doesn't seem right

And one was broken already lol



But again.. I'm just nitpicking.. the place is incredible... I've been to a good 10 or 11 MLB ballparks.. most of them I can see some similarities between each other.. this place with the grandness and openness of the Great Hall and mix of history, nostalgia, and modernness is like no place I've ever seen

It was slow? I can only base my views on my personal experience of the Stadium; but I thought the elevators were relatively quick. I mean it didn;t move at the speed of light, but it wasn't slow either. And personally I like the fact that NYS has elevators. My wife gets tired quickly when she's walking. She use to complain about the ramps at the old place. I think she'll really like NYS now.

CoreyMac
04-03-2009, 11:18 PM
well...I watched the game on TV, and the first few innings the camera behind the netting was focusing on the net for grounders that went into the OF etc....I noticed in the later innings that the focus of the camera was more on the players and the netting looked a bit more invisible. I'm sure adjustments will be made at some point. I'm just glad to say this is the home of my team. It looked beautiful in HD.

Rob R
04-03-2009, 11:20 PM
An example of the netting that I said I hated about 90 times so far.

Take a look at Cano's homer. The netting is so bad that it actually looks like it's in front of the rightfield stands and Cano had to clear it. Not only is the netting annoying, but it's distracting and gives you a wrong perspective. It's like, "Will Cano's homer clear the screen?" when there isn't even a screen there.

the video. it's about 30 seconds in:
http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200904034002679

Cool Papa B.
04-03-2009, 11:26 PM
Oh guys I left out one more very important detail. THAT MAIN VIDEO SCOREBOARD IS THE BOMB!!! We've all used the term "pictures don't do it any justice" and that term has been used appropriately. But with that videoboard PICTURES REALLY, REALLY, REALLY DOESN'T DO IT ANY JUSTICE. I'm sorry, but that's something you're gonna have to physically be there to know what I'm talking about. It is just ridiculously big, sharp and colorful. If the Yankees throw a SuperBowl party in NYS next year, I'm definitely there!!!!

jimmyjimjimz
04-03-2009, 11:27 PM
An example of the netting that I said I hated about 90 times so far.

Take a look at Cano's homer. The netting is so bad that it actually looks like it's in front of the rightfield stands and Cano had to clear it. Not only is the netting annoying, but it's distracting and gives you a wrong perspective. It's like, "Will Cano's homer clear the screen?" when there isn't even a screen there.

the video. it's about 30 seconds in:
http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200904034002679

wow so many people are complaining about the net...........................

.................................and I didn't even notice it. And why is there a video of it on the Red Sox website? Are they jealous that we got a brand new state of the art stadium, and they still have to play in a 90,000 year old stadium? I'm assuming the video must link to all the teams websites.

CFmets09
04-03-2009, 11:33 PM
I think you have to be looking for the net to notice it really. I only noticed it after I heard people complaining about it on here to be honest.

Rob R
04-03-2009, 11:34 PM
wow so many people are complaining about the net...........................

.................................and I didn't even notice it. And why is there a video of it on the Red Sox website? Are they jealous that we got a brand new state of the art stadium, and they still have to play in a 90,000 year old stadium? I'm assuming the video must link to all the teams websites.

I was on the Sox site because somebody in the Citi thread provided a link, where the Sox players were talking about Citi and noticed the Cano homerun link, something I complained about here when it happened.

Now that you noticed the netting, what do you think?

Rob R
04-03-2009, 11:36 PM
I think you have to be looking for the net to notice it really. I only noticed it after I heard people complaining about it on here to be honest.
Doesn't hurt that my HDTV is 60" I guess. You can't miss a thing. But even that grainy link I provided shows the netting clearly. The way that Cano HR looked is inexcusable, as if it had to clear the netting to make it into the stands. Something has to be done.

donut726
04-03-2009, 11:40 PM
anybody feel the behind the plate angle is way too low? if they can have the camera placed higher, maybe that would eliminate the netting prob as well

reh303
04-03-2009, 11:41 PM
anybody feel the behind the plate angle is way too low? if they can have the camera placed higher, maybe that would eliminate the netting prob as well

In that case you might run into a "Nationals Park" issue where the behind-the-plate view is way too far away. Seems like overall poor planning. C'est la vie.

Rob R
04-03-2009, 11:47 PM
anybody feel the behind the plate angle is way too low? if they can have the camera placed higher, maybe that would eliminate the netting prob as well

It actually does look lower than when broadcasted at RYS, though I'm not 100% sure. The outfield walls seemed closer as well from the new camera angle.

Something tells me that if George Steinbrenner was still able to run this team, that he'd go ballistic over this. People can say what they want about him, but he was extremely detailed oriented and was concerned with giving the fans the best possible experience. He'd be trashing HOK, complaining that for 1.5 billion they should have designed this correctly and would have made sure they made corrections before the very first broadcast.

CFmets09
04-03-2009, 11:52 PM
I really don't know if there is going to be a perfect solution for the net issue as I think they are going to have to view it through the net or have a camera angle like the nationals.

donut726
04-03-2009, 11:54 PM
lower circle is the current camera location and the upper circle is the proposed camera location. maybe move the netting a little bit lower so the camera is actually located above the netting coverage.

Rob R
04-03-2009, 11:55 PM
I really don't know if there is going to be a perfect solution for the net issue as I think they are going to have to view it through the net or have a camera angle like the nationals.

Or design new netting or reposition it or come up with something more creative.

Rob R
04-03-2009, 11:56 PM
lower circle is the current camera location and the upper circle is the proposed camera location. maybe move the netting a little bit lower so the camera is actually located above the netting coverage.

I like that idea, if doable.

donut726
04-03-2009, 11:58 PM
RYS layout, which is what my proposal is based on. don't know if the decreased foul ground space would have an effect.



the layout of Busch Stadium also has much higher camera placement and lower height of the netting

Coach Bombay
04-04-2009, 12:05 AM
I think you have to be looking for the net to notice it really. I only noticed it after I heard people complaining about it on here to be honest.

Yeah, same here, I was wondering what they where talking about because I watching the game and didn't notice it.

Mattingly85MVP
04-04-2009, 12:34 AM
anyone else prefer Jim Hall than the guy that was PA tonight? one other thing I miss was the echo from the loud speaker in center field from the old stadium

Yankees12
04-04-2009, 12:44 AM
I just got back from NYS (well, and dinner afterwards, which is why I'm not posting until now), and I have to say, in the most unbiased way possible, that this is the absolute greatest stadium in all of baseball. I was completely blown away from the second I walked in there.

The concourses are bright, wide, and extremely easy to navigate. The championship banners across the main level are such a nice touch. The team stores are extremely huge.

I can't describe how awesome the Great Hall is. It's one of the great defining features of the new Stadium. Very fun to walk down, and the screen at the end of it is humongous.

The scoreboard is the best I've ever seen. It has to be experienced in person. It is absolutely gigantic.

The stadium quite simply captured the feel of the Old Yankee Stadium while putting it in a completely modern setting. There were points at which I could barely tell if I was in NYS or RYS. But there is absolutely no comparison between the two. NYS is a beautiful, streamlined, gorgeous, modern ballpark that already feels like home.

The upper deck doesn't feel far from the field at all. I was in the back row right near the RF foul pole and didn't feel removed from the game at all. The Grandstand can get a little dark due to the large roof, but you don't feel removed or too far back at all.

The frieze is so nice - it is gigantic and so imposing, and really sets the tempo for the entire park. You really notice how big it is from the Grandstand.

The ads really did not detract from the Stadium as I feared they would. The three big ads on the outfield walls right in succession do look a bit bush league on TV, it seems (from the instant replays they showed on the screen), but they don't look bad in person.

I loved the express elevators, the LED ribbon in the Great Hall, and the great signage all around the park.

Two complaints - one, the bathrooms in the terrace could use a lot of work, and two, the netting interfering with the ball-in-play camera shots is awful. That needs to be fixed. It's completely intolerable, and it showed up big time on every instant replay.

Overall though, this ballpark is a fitting home to the New York Yankees, and is purely wonderful. I honestly think it may just be the best park in the majors (if they can fix that damn netting problem, it'll come off that way on TV too). It'll take some time getting used to, especially for a fanbase as resistent to change as ours. One thing I noticed from TV shots, and maybe this is from a month of watching the Yanks play there, at points it seemed like some of the in-game TV shots felt a bit similar to Steinbrenner Field, since the wall colors are basically the exact same and are very different from the lighter blue we're all used to at RYS. Still, I think that'll go away once we're used to watching games here. Inside the ballpark, it felt 100% like Yankee Stadium.

After following construction for 2 1/2 years and waiting for this day, to finally be able to enter NYS, I couldn't be any happier. I took a few pictures - not as many as I wanted since there was little space on my camera. Here they are - http://s633.photobucket.com/albums/uu52/yankees12/ - some of the night shots are pretty dark - I might work on lightening those up in the morning.

argenys
04-04-2009, 12:45 AM
An example of the netting that I said I hated about 90 times so far.

Take a look at Cano's homer. The netting is so bad that it actually looks like it's in front of the rightfield stands and Cano had to clear it. Not only is the netting annoying, but it's distracting and gives you a wrong perspective. It's like, "Will Cano's homer clear the screen?" when there isn't even a screen there.

the video. it's about 30 seconds in:
http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200904034002679

Dude.... Im speechless they are going to have to shorten the net or something... just WOW!

argenys
04-04-2009, 12:48 AM
There seems to be alot of little oversights in this ballpark. I hope they will fix alot of them by the end of the season and almost all by the start of next season.

Rob R
04-04-2009, 01:06 AM
Dude.... Im speechless they are going to have to shorten the net or something... just WOW!

I know, brother. I wish I were one of those here who aren't bothered by it, but that will never happen. It's too obvious, too distracting and too just plain ugly on TV and will never do the beauty of this stadium justice. People who don't know the stadium, even Yanks fans, will watch it and think that the Yanks are playing in a cage.

Zion610
04-04-2009, 01:08 AM
I TOO was at the game... i echo the feelings of everyone... it was awesome... the left field bleacher obstruction is horrible.. not too bad in right... i really liked the new guy doing thepa... hes no bob shepard but hes way better than that bill hall guy.. who to me is just trying to imitate bob.. his voice was very clear and precise.. with good base.. would love him to take over for bob once hes done... anything is better than that met pa.. just annoying

Rob R
04-04-2009, 01:09 AM
I just got back from NYS (well, and dinner afterwards, which is why I'm not posting until now), and I have to say, in the most unbiased way possible, that this is the absolute greatest stadium in all of baseball. I was completely blown away from the second I walked in there.

The concourses are bright, wide, and extremely easy to navigate. The championship banners across the main level are such a nice touch. The team stores are extremely huge.

I can't describe how awesome the Great Hall is. It's one of the great defining features of the new Stadium. Very fun to walk down, and the screen at the end of it is humongous.

The scoreboard is the best I've ever seen. It has to be experienced in person. It is absolutely gigantic.

The stadium quite simply captured the feel of the Old Yankee Stadium while putting it in a completely modern setting. There were points at which I could barely tell if I was in NYS or RYS. But there is absolutely no comparison between the two. NYS is a beautiful, streamlined, gorgeous, modern ballpark that already feels like home.

The upper deck doesn't feel far from the field at all. I was in the back row right near the RF foul pole and didn't feel removed from the game at all. The Grandstand can get a little dark due to the large roof, but you don't feel removed or too far back at all.

The frieze is so nice - it is gigantic and so imposing, and really sets the tempo for the entire park. You really notice how big it is from the Grandstand.

The ads really did not detract from the Stadium as I feared they would. The three big ads on the outfield walls right in succession do look a bit bush league on TV, it seems (from the instant replays they showed on the screen), but they don't look bad in person.

I loved the express elevators, the LED ribbon in the Great Hall, and the great signage all around the park.

Two complaints - one, the bathrooms in the terrace could use a lot of work, and two, the netting interfering with the ball-in-play camera shots is awful. That needs to be fixed. It's completely intolerable, and it showed up big time on every instant replay.

Overall though, this ballpark is a fitting home to the New York Yankees, and is purely wonderful. I honestly think it may just be the best park in the majors (if they can fix that damn netting problem, it'll come off that way on TV too). It'll take some time getting used to, especially for a fanbase as resistent to change as ours. One thing I noticed from TV shots, and maybe this is from a month of watching the Yanks play there, at points it seemed like some of the in-game TV shots felt a bit similar to Steinbrenner Field, since the wall colors are basically the exact same and are very different from the lighter blue we're all used to at RYS. Still, I think that'll go away once we're used to watching games here. Inside the ballpark, it felt 100% like Yankee Stadium.

After following construction for 2 1/2 years and waiting for this day, to finally be able to enter NYS, I couldn't be any happier. I took a few pictures - not as many as I wanted since there was little space on my camera. Here they are - http://s633.photobucket.com/albums/uu52/yankees12/ - some of the night shots are pretty dark - I might work on lightening those up in the morning.
Oh yeah! Was waiting anxiously for your opinion once you got to see it in a game setting, and I'm thrilled that you like it. Now we can get your fair comparison of NYS to Citi (there is no doubt in my mind that you'll be fair and objective) sometime soon. :)

And if those photos were taken from the back row of the grandstand, let me tell you, they're outstanding it's not far at all from the action; much, much better than photos I've seen from the back of the upper deck at RYS.

Zion610
04-04-2009, 01:09 AM
oh yea and pix to follow tommorow

Rob R
04-04-2009, 01:13 AM
oh yea and pix to follow tommorow
Awright, another ringing endorsement it seems. I have to wait till April 22 dammit!

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 01:57 AM
Regarding the netting:

I really did not notice it, granted I was watching it on MLBN, not in HD (no HD version yet with my cable :mad:), I will have to judge again when I see it in HD.

My big fear regarding fixing the 'ball in play' camera angle is that they might put it up higher as they do at the Nationals park. That camera angle is ridiculous. It looks like its on the roof, and I have a hard time just watching the highlights let alone a game that takes place there. IMO that would compromise watching games at NYS much more so than the netting.Here's my take on the netting. I was looking for it, and knew it would probably be an issue. The first couple innings I was specifically looking for it, but after a while I honestly got used to it very quickly.

I think sometimes for fly balls they went straight to the 1st/3rd base cams, eliminating the net on fly balls, throws from the outfield that came in to 1st/3rd, etc.

One thing they could do is have a dual camera setup, one lower and one higher, and switch to the higher one for certain plays maybe.

The reason the net is so much higher is becuase the backstop is so much closer to home plate. All the distance behind home at the old stadium allowed for the net to be much closer to the camera area, and therefore out of view. Also, they wanted the new net to be higher to protect people behind home and from foul balls lined straight back. Making the net lower would create higher risk.

The only other option they have, and it's something I would have done in the first place, is make the net much much lower, and then have a "roof net" like at old YS over the field level seating. Then, the camera could be placed above that net. I'm not sure why this wasn't done originally. It would protect field-level people from foul balls, and allow the camera to shoot over top of the net.

They may eventually end up doing just that. Maybe if people write to YES and complain they'll do something. Hopefully they can make some kind of adjustment to the net or the location of the camera.

Honestly, though, I'm not just saying this - I have a 47" HDTV and I specifically was looking for the net, but I forgot about it after just a few innings. I'm guessing that as YES learns to shoot around it a little better, and we get used to it, we're not going to notice it.

I also wonder, and maybe some camera people can chime in on this, if they can use a different kind of lens on that camera, or increase the aperature of the camera to result in a larger depth of focus, so that things closer to the camera (like the netting) become even further out of focus. When the aperature (opening) of the lens is really small, more things are in focus from near to far. When the aperature is larger, only the thing you're specifically focusing on is in focus, while everything further away or closer to the camera is blurry. They could perhaps make modifications to the camera in such a way to further blur the net.

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 02:17 AM
It's amazing how NYS just looks like Yankee Stadium should look, with no shocks, no bad surprises and nothing contrived. Much better looking than RYS. Gotta love it.I couldn't agree more. It's sad that some people will accuse us of buying in to propaganda or that we're blind for not hating it, but the stadium looks so great. The more I see it, the more I realize they did a ridiculously awesome job of designing it. Of course, there are some issues. Some of them could have been easily avoided, other issues are just a matter of no matter how well you design something, you can't make every seat be a perfect view of the entire field. No ballpark in all of baseball has a perfect view for every single seat.

I realize maybe some people got the wrong idea with the way the Yankees sold it as "no seats with an obstructed view" but that's not the designer's fault. The CF issue, to me, is the only real obstruction issue, and while they could probably fix it (and still might), their solution of first of all charging just $5 for those seats, and then secondly allowing you to access the entire stadium and all concourses is a pretty damn decent fix.

I'm not saying it's perfect, but the frieze, the look, the feel, it's incredible. Just going by TV, it looks so much stronger than RYS, for lack of a better word. RYS always had an unbalanced, top heavy feel. Some called that intimitading, I called it awkward. OYS lost something very signficant when they removed the roof, frieze, and made the upper deck bigger, taller, and higher on top. People have said it's less intimidating, but I've seen some photos from field and it looks like the frieze is hanging right over top of the playing field.

The new stadium is the perfect mix of size and balance. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if you hate it, that's perfectly fine, but I love it, and it's not that I'm buying the kool aid, propaganda, rose-colored glasses, or anything like that. It's fantastic.

Ralf
04-04-2009, 02:40 AM
NYS is going to be a bandbox - worse than CBP. Book it.

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 03:16 AM
NYS is going to be a bandbox - worse than CBP. Book it.Other than the fact that three Yankees who are excellent hitters (or Ransom who has significant power) hit three solid HRs, what's your basis for this statement? The dimensions are virtually the same, aside from small differences, mostly the RF porch being just a bit shorter by some accounts.

So no, I won't "book it" that it's going to be worse than CBP. That's a pretty baseless claim given the fact that one spring training game has been played there.

Greg B.
04-04-2009, 03:19 AM
anybody feel the behind the plate angle is way too low? if they can have the camera placed higher, maybe that would eliminate the netting prob as well

They might have been trying to re-create the experience from OYS. That had a very low-angle camera behind home plate. Months ago someone posted a link to a video from the early 70s that showed that shot. I don't know how the backstop and screen was configured there though.

Rob R
04-04-2009, 03:21 AM
I couldn't agree more. It's sad that some people will accuse us of buying in to propaganda or that we're blind for not hating it, but the stadium looks so great. The more I see it, the more I realize they did a ridiculously awesome job of designing it. Of course, there are some issues. Some of them could have been easily avoided, other issues are just a matter of no matter how well you design something, you can't make every seat be a perfect view of the entire field. No ballpark in all of baseball has a perfect view for every single seat.

I realize maybe some people got the wrong idea with the way the Yankees sold it as "no seats with an obstructed view" but that's not the designer's fault. The CF issue, to me, is the only real obstruction issue, and while they could probably fix it (and still might), their solution of first of all charging just $5 for those seats, and then secondly allowing you to access the entire stadium and all concourses is a pretty damn decent fix.

I'm not saying it's perfect, but the frieze, the look, the feel, it's incredible. Just going by TV, it looks so much stronger than RYS, for lack of a better word. RYS always had an unbalanced, top heavy feel. Some called that intimitading, I called it awkward. OYS lost something very signficant when they removed the roof, frieze, and made the upper deck bigger, taller, and higher on top. People have said it's less intimidating, but I've seen some photos from field and it looks like the frieze is hanging right over top of the playing field.

The new stadium is the perfect mix of size and balance. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if you hate it, that's perfectly fine, but I love it, and it's not that I'm buying the kool aid, propaganda, rose-colored glasses, or anything like that. It's fantastic.

Took the words right out of my mouth, only you said it more eloquently than I would have. Now if only they take care of that stinkin' netting for when I watch it on YES HD and I'm NOT at the stadium. :)

Rob R
04-04-2009, 03:24 AM
NYS is going to be a bandbox - worse than CBP. Book it.
Anything you say, Ralf. We always welcome your well thought out words in NYS threads. And by the way, we'll barely know if it is a bandbox with our pitching staff.

Rob R
04-04-2009, 03:28 AM
Other than the fact that three Yankees who are excellent hitters (or Ransom who has significant power) hit three solid HRs, what's your basis for this statement? The dimensions are virtually the same, aside from small differences, mostly the RF porch being just a bit shorter by some accounts.

So no, I won't "book it" that it's going to be worse than CBP. That's a pretty baseless claim given the fact that one spring training game has been played there.
Facts. Never let them get in the way of Ralf's attacks.

Rob R
04-04-2009, 04:08 AM
Peter Abraham is in on the netting debacle. He blogged: UPDATE, "7:42 p.m.: Posada singles and Cano drills one into the right-field stands. Cubs 3-2. Meanwhile, a lot of the shots on TV are through the screen. What a disaster that is for YES. That is poor planning on somebody’s part."

Nice to know that someone in the media recognizes this. I hope it gains steam and they don't let it rest till the Yanks address it. Going to do my part.

Rob R
04-04-2009, 04:13 AM
Question for all who attended: How visible are the manual scoreboards on the rf and lf wall from the stands? Can you see the numbers well, and in what section were you seated?

DGDGBD
04-04-2009, 04:14 AM
I think maybe the auto focus of the tv cameras get distracted by the netting and try to focus on it. Maybe if they used a finer material or more transparent material that might solve a lot of the problem.

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 04:30 AM
I think maybe the auto focus of the tv cameras get distracted by the netting and try to focus on it. Maybe if they used a finer material or more transparent material that might solve a lot of the problem.I'm pretty sure there's no auto focus on those cameras, it's done manually.

DGDGBD
04-04-2009, 05:14 AM
I'm pretty sure there's no auto focus on those cameras, it's done manually.

I don't know either way, but I would be surprised if all modern TV camera didn't have auto-focus capability. Whether the cameramen routinely use it, I don't know. It just seemed that sometimes the camera would briefly focus on the netting in the foreground rather than field.

80SHOCK
04-04-2009, 05:28 AM
Anything you say, Ralf. We always welcome your well thought out words in NYS threads. And by the way, we'll barely know if it is a bandbox with our pitching staff.

:laugh More like Citi Field being the bandbox with the Met rotation being what it is. Even Santana gives up HR's at a frequent rate.

80SHOCK
04-04-2009, 06:13 AM
This picture shows what I'm talking about the lights maybe not fully being on. Could be why the stadium looked slightly darker then RYS.

kingcohn
04-04-2009, 06:18 AM
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/photogallery/year_2009/month_04/day_04/cf4124396.html
http://mlb.mlb.com/nyy/photogallery/year_2009/month_04/day_04/cf4124390.html

Kentucky Bomber
04-04-2009, 06:21 AM
:laugh More like Citi Field being the bandbox with the Met rotation being what it is. Even Santana gives up HR's at a frequent rate.

I watched a couple of innings of the Met game waiting for the Yanks' game to start and saw some well hit shots to LF go nowhere. Just wait for David Wright to see his best shots land on the warning track, or more likely in the OF's glove for a few weeks. He'll be out there with a hammer building his own new wall in no time, and he'll have lots of company.

And what kind of idiot thinks that 2 shots off the foul pole defines a "Bandbox"? Oh wait, Ralf. :nod:

mandrake
04-04-2009, 06:23 AM
:laugh More like Citi Field being the bandbox with the Met rotation being what it is. Even Santana gives up HR's at a frequent rate.

Seriously CF looks like it will be a pitchers park. If I was David Wright, I would be thinking "there goes my stats".

I can't wait (well I guess I have to wait) until 4/30 when I get to see NYS to see for myself. I think I have a pretty objective track record.

From what I saw on the TV replay when I got home from Citi, NYS looked great, and I think it will look so much better in person.

80SHOCK
04-04-2009, 06:26 AM
Umm I was joking around about Citi Field being a bandbox.....

Kentucky Bomber
04-04-2009, 06:29 AM
This picture shows what I'm talking about the lights maybe not fully being on. Could be why the stadium looked slightly darker then RYS.

I think everything was on full bore, but maybe the lighting techs need to fine tune the angle of the lights. There is, of course, a fine line that has to be followed between maximum light on the field and the angle it might take to be in the fielder's eyes. Didn't seem that dark to me, but the 2 games with the Cubs (looks like the second one may dodge the rain) were scheduled for just the reason of giving the tweakers a chance to see what needed tweaking.

Kentucky Bomber
04-04-2009, 06:33 AM
Umm I was joking around about Citi Field being a bandbox.....

I know you were...it's cavernous, and the Mets and their fans will tire of it. But for the troll to come in here and say 3 HR's last night, 2 off the poles, make YS a bandbox is ridiculous.

There, we're friends again. :happy:

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 06:36 AM
I think there was plenty of lighting on the field. The stands being a little darker (which I like, by the way) is probably mostly due to the fact that the roof of the new stadium is much closer to the field than the roof at the old stadium, which was further away. The lights shone down across the crowd there, making the stadium (the crowd) look brighter. Plus, the facings of the decks, the walls, and the seats were all light blue, making everything look lighter.

The important thing is that I don't think anyone had a problem seeing the ball - batters, catcher, fielders, etc. Seems like the field itself was extremely well lit.

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 06:42 AM
I'm not sure if anyone posted these. A bunch of great pictures from flickr member Bari D (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjway2006/)


Link to Album: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjway2006/sets/72157616326853798/


from flickr member Bari D (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjway2006/)

from flickr member Bari D (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjway2006/)

from flickr member Bari D (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjway2006/)

from flickr member Bari D (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjway2006/)

80SHOCK
04-04-2009, 06:48 AM
Kay Cone O'Neill where talking about a glare that looked like to them coming out of MP. I screaming at the TV that it was a spot light that was on.:laugh They thought it was the plaques shining.
Don't know why a spot light was on in MP during the game. Could be a distraction to the hitters.

Cool Papa B.
04-04-2009, 06:57 AM
Here's some of my pics from yesterday. I'm having a hard time setting up a flickr acct. so I have to post them directly to this page.

Aviator_Frank
04-04-2009, 06:58 AM
I understand what both of you are saying the stadium seemed a little dark in the grandstand area. This is because the lights are above the frieze which hands over the grandstand as opposed to yankee stadium where the lights were pretty much at the top of the tier level. FRIEZE LOOKS AMAZING

You're used to the floodlights at OYS that are essentially the same ones they installed in 1976.

These are a new generation of lights that are focused on the field. There's less light spill and as a result the surrounding areas may seem darker by comparison, but I assure you the light is getting where it needs to.

You'll note that in each subsection of lighting that the lampheads are fanned out, so on TV it looks like some bulbs are brighter when in fact they're all the same candle power, but because of their aim the ones facing away from you look weaker. This results in light coming at the field from more directions for a more even illumination, rather than the old style where entire banks would face a single focal point and you had hot spots.

Cool Papa B.
04-04-2009, 07:00 AM
More pics from the exterior:

Kentucky Bomber
04-04-2009, 07:01 AM
I'm not sure if anyone posted these. A bunch of great pictures from flickr member Bari D (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjway2006/)


Link to Album: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjway2006/sets/72157616326853798/


from flickr member Bari D (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjway2006/)

Wow, the out of town scoreboard shows the pitcher and batter of each game! Very neat.

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 07:02 AM
You're used to the floodlights at OYS that are essentially the same ones they installed in 1976.

These are a new generation of lights that are focused on the field. There's less light spill and as a result the surrounding areas may seem darker by comparison, but I assure you the light is getting where it needs to.

You'll note that in each subsection of lighting that the lampheads are fanned out, so on TV it looks like some bulbs are brighter when in fact they're all the same candle power, but because of their aim the ones facing away from you look weaker. This results in light coming at the field from more directions for a more even illumination, rather than the old style where entire banks would face a single focal point and you had hot spots.Exactly, thanks. The way I always tell if a field is well lit, is (in addition to it being bright) is what do the player's shadows look like. If the shadows are very hard to distinguish, that means that there's good lighting from all sides.

Cool Papa B.
04-04-2009, 07:06 AM
Some interior shots
1.Field level concourse
2.Peter Max Gallery. Too bad it was closed
3,4.Mohegan Sun. Ushers had the seating area closed off. A rep. was there and told me membership is currently offered to season ticket holders. But seats will be sold eventually on a game to game basis-if that makes any sense.
5.View of the outside from the merchandise store on main level.

Cool Papa B.
04-04-2009, 07:13 AM
More interiors. Last 2 are views from sect. 312 row 9

Cool Papa B.
04-04-2009, 07:17 AM
more pics from sect 312.

80SHOCK
04-04-2009, 07:19 AM
Don't know is this the actual locker or replica but the jersey looks sharp with the inaugural patch on them:

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 07:20 AM
Thanks for the pics Cool Papa



The bleacher fans are right on top of the visitor's bullpen. It's going to be awful for them :clapping :D

Cool Papa B.
04-04-2009, 07:20 AM
Some night shots.

RationalNYYfan
04-04-2009, 07:21 AM
What's the weather forecast for today?

NYBase
04-04-2009, 07:21 AM
Anyone else have major data issues with their phone at the stadium? I have an iPhone so it can very well be crappy AT&T's fault. Maybe too many people accessing the wireless network from the same place at the same time :confused:

I'll test again today for game 2...

MaraMoose
04-04-2009, 07:23 AM
I have yet to go there but does the new stadium allow alcohol in the bleachers and also, do they sell alcohol in the bleachers food court

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 07:25 AM
Anyone notice how the lights seem much warmer (color wise) than the lights at the old stadium? Things always looked blue and cold, but these have a much warmer yellow tint. It came across that way on TV, too. It gave the frieze an almost vintage look.


Anyone else have major data issues with their phone at the stadium? I have an iPhone so it can very well be crappy AT&T's fault. Maybe too many people accessing the wireless network from the same place at the same time :confused:This would be my guess. People using the net, phoning friends, sending pictures, etc. The network was probably clogged beyond belief.

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 07:26 AM
I have yet to go there but does the new stadium allow alcohol in the bleachers and also, do they sell alcohol in the bleachers food courtFirst part: Yes. Second part: I think so. It was first announced that there would be no beer allowed in the bleachers (even though you could access the rest of the stadium and buy it there), but the policy was changed.

Cool Papa B.
04-04-2009, 07:26 AM
1. YMCA!!!
2. More Shots of the field
3. Yankees win!!! Theeeee YANKEES WIN!!!
4. Final scoreboard from left field
5. Final scoreboard from right field.

NewYorkMantle
04-04-2009, 07:27 AM
An example of the netting that I said I hated about 90 times so far.

Take a look at Cano's homer. The netting is so bad that it actually looks like it's in front of the rightfield stands and Cano had to clear it. Not only is the netting annoying, but it's distracting and gives you a wrong perspective. It's like, "Will Cano's homer clear the screen?" when there isn't even a screen there.

the video. it's about 30 seconds in:
http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200904034002679

i just realized that the camera is at that low angle behind the net just so we can see the frieze when fly balls are hit.

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 07:29 AM
What's the weather forecast for today?The forecast is for mostly cloudy with winds up to 25 mph. 5%-10% chance precip until 5pm, when scattered showers may move in. 30% chance precip from 5pm onward. Looking like they shouldn't have any major problems getting the game in. Temperature from 53 to 55.

NYBase
04-04-2009, 07:30 AM
You know I don't remember cotton eyed joe... did this awful tradition continue?

Cool Papa B.
04-04-2009, 07:35 AM
You know I don't remember cotton eyed joe... did this awful tradition continue?

No, funny enough, they didn't do cotton-eye Joe. Thank God!!!

NYBase
04-04-2009, 07:37 AM
No, funny enough, they didn't do cotton-eye Joe. Thank God!!!

That's great news, I hope it stays that way.

Country-ish music in the Bronx? Keep it away....:waving

UpstateYanksFan
04-04-2009, 07:55 AM
Im watching the Mike Francessa show at Yankee Stadium right now and he is interviewing Lonn Trost. They got in a discussion about the center field obstruction with the restaurant and Lonn Trost said there would be 6 more HDTVs going on the sides of the restaurant. So 3 more on each side. Thats good news for those who have to deal with that obstruction.

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 07:59 AM
Im watching the Mike Francessa show at Yankee Stadium right now and he is interviewing Lonn Trost. They got in a discussion about the center field obstruction with the restaurant and Lonn Trost said there would be 6 more HDTVs going on the sides of the restaurant. So 3 more on each side. Thats good news for those who have to deal with that obstruction.Yeah, that's actually going to help quite a bit. He also mentioned that those TVs will show the game itself live, not just replays and stuff like the big video board. It's still not ideal, obviously, but for $5, you see most of the game, have access to the whole stadium, and can see anything you miss on the TVs... that's not bad.

80SHOCK
04-04-2009, 08:01 AM
Interesting; Teixeria told Trost that when Jeter threw the ball it seem to disappear.
They didn't elaborate on the issue. All Trost said they may need to put padding somewhere.
Wonder what Texieria is talking about.


Trost also said the CF restaurant/cafe was a trade off. Either build an amenity for the bleacher fans (the cafe) or no amenity at all. No amenity and see the entire field or amenity but obstructed views.

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 08:04 AM
Interesting; Teixeria told Trost that when Jeter threw the ball it seem to disappear.
They didn't elaborate on the issue. All Trost said they may need to put padding somewhere.
Wonder what Texieria is talking about.What he said was that on some balls up the middle, the throw was coming towards him from one of the ads in LF, and the ball was becoming hard to see on the light background. I'm not sure of the exact ad/location they were talking about, but he said they would see if they can put something darker in the location so that the throws coming from SS would be easier to see.

I imagine it's only on certain balls thrown from a certain spot.

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 08:06 AM
Trost also said the CF restaurant/cafe was a trade off. Either build an amenity for the bleacher fans (the cafe) or no amenity at all. No amenity and see the entire field or amenity but obstructed views.Those weren't the exact words, but they basically knew there would be the obstruction. I think maybe they didn't realize how bad it would be. Also, he's wrong that there was no alternative, there is. One of the simplest would be to eliminate those seats that are mostly obstructed and replace them with a porch that's the same height as the bleachers cafe. They could then have standing room up there, or picnic tables or something like that.

Kentucky Bomber
04-04-2009, 08:07 AM
No, funny enough, they didn't do cotton-eye Joe. Thank God!!!

I talked to Joe the other day (he lives down the road from me in an Old Kentucky Home [that's a trailer park to the rest of you]). He says he's waiting for the call.

Dr. Tynan's voice seemed a bit off during GBA; wonder if he's losing it, or if it was the weather.

I would hope that the TV's they're going to install on the bleacher walls are angled; the ones they have now, flat to the wall, don't seem to be of much use unless you're facing right at them.

Kentucky Bomber
04-04-2009, 08:08 AM
What he said was that on some balls up the middle, the throw was coming towards him from one of the ads in LF, and the ball was becoming hard to see on the light background. I'm not sure of the exact ad/location they were talking about, but he said they would see if they can put something darker in the location so that the throws coming from SS would be easier to see.

I imagine it's only on certain balls thrown from a certain spot.

The Canon ad, I'll betcha.

donut726
04-04-2009, 08:09 AM
What he said was that on some balls up the middle, the throw was coming towards him from one of the ads in LF, and the ball was becoming hard to see on the light background. I'm not sure of the exact ad/location they were talking about, but he said they would see if they can put something darker in the location so that the throws coming from SS would be easier to see.

I imagine it's only on certain balls thrown from a certain spot.

probably the Canon ad. they should've gone with the black background like the RYS the past couple of years

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 08:10 AM
The Canon ad, I'll betcha.I actually don't think it was the Canon ad in LF. It was something more towards CF than that, I think. It might even have been with regard to the white face of the bleacher walls or the bullpen area, as opposed to the ad itself.

CFmets09
04-04-2009, 08:16 AM
I know this was discussed a few pages back that the stadium seemed darker, but on tv I noticed that a good portion of the wrap around lights behind home plate weren't on at all. I don't think anybody mentioned that but there were lights definitely off.

bronxbombers2
04-04-2009, 08:16 AM
hey guys, i hope any of what im about to say isnt old news cause i havent gotten the chance to read the past 20 pages. I figured i might answer a few questions.
1. The screens against the restaurant dont even show the game, it does whatever the big screen does, so when a batter is up to bat, it just shows his face.
2. The frieze stands out great day or night
3. The food choice is amazing, and i literally walked right up to johnny Rockets, got 2 cokes, 2 fries, then walked to get a hotdog, being no more than 2 people waiting, and btw, this was at 6:45 in the bleacher sections.
4. The team store is HUUUUGE. i emptied my wallet
5. As you walk in through gate 4, you notice how huge the concourses are, and there seemed to be workers all over the place standing around asking how your doing and welcoming you to the new stadium.
6. There were at least 5-7 workers in the team store helping people and welcoming you every time you walked by. (everyone was nice)
7. the organization of the bleachers is a little chaotic,

Im uploading 2 memory cards worth of pictures as we speak, ask any questions you have, i know i wanted to answer more but cant remember.

Yoda
04-04-2009, 08:18 AM
how is the food:waving

bronxbombers2
04-04-2009, 08:21 AM
how is the food:waving

good, i only had so many things, but what i did have (hotdog, fries) was pretty good

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 08:21 AM
hey guys, i hope any of what im about to say isnt old news cause i havent gotten the chance to read the past 20 pages. I figured i might answer a few questions.
1. The screens against the restaurant dont even show the game, it does whatever the big screen does, so when a batter is up to bat, it just shows his face.Lonn Trost addressed this, saying that once the season starts, they will show the live game feed. He also said they're adding six more TVs (presumably 3 more to each side).


2. The frieze stands out great day or nightYeah, it looked great on TV.


7. the organization of the bleachers is a little chaoticI think once people get used to sitting in the bleachers, knowing their way around, and get used to the stadium overall, things will settle down in terms of the traffic flow up there. There seemed to be a million people up in front of the bleachers cafe.


Im uploading 2 memory cards worth of pictures as we speak, ask any questions you have, i know i wanted to answer more but cant remember.Where were your seats and how was the view?

bronxbombers2
04-04-2009, 08:22 AM
hey guys, whats the best way to upload pics here, should i put them on my blog, then just give you guys the link?

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 08:24 AM
hey guys, whats the best way to upload pics here, should i put them on my blog, then just give you guys the link?Photobucket and Flickr are the best ways, imo. You can post the images here as attachments but that's sometimes an awkward way to do it (plus only 5 pics per post). I don't see any problem posting the pictures to your blog and then linking to that.

80SHOCK
04-04-2009, 08:24 AM
Whether it's the Canon ad or not Trost mentioned putting "padding" in the area Teixiera was talking about.
So what I take from that is either a ad will be taken down so the darker blue padded wall will show or a darker ad will replace it.

bronxbombers2
04-04-2009, 08:24 AM
Where were your seats and how was the view?

They were in section 203, right next to bald vinny and the Bleacher Creature Crew. The view was great, you actually felt pretty close to the field. And cano's homerun looked like it was coming right at us

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 08:25 AM
They were in section 203, right next to bald vinny and the Bleacher Creature Crew. The view was great, you actually felt pretty close to the field. And cano's homerun looked like it was coming right at usAwesome. The bleachers, apart from the obstructed ones, seem to be easily the best deal in the whole stadium. The views look good, you've got the cafe right there, you can access the whole stadium... good stuff.

mets16
04-04-2009, 08:28 AM
Thanks Pinstripes for giving me credit for those pictures. I wish everyone was like that. But thats what I get for staying out late and waking up late this morning. Blah blah blah, here's some of the other pictures.

Great Hall. On a side note this closed captioning is really starting to tick me off. In both new stadiums they are doing this.



Even the usher next to me whipped out his phone to snap a few shots of the flag.


Sorry Yankee fans, I had to :laugh


Good view form the bleachers.


Lurking in the background. I had to say, even as a Mets fan, I was sort of tearing up seeing how the old Yankee Stadium was sorta looking sad, knowing it has held all of these people, but they have moved on. Like seeing it got all prepared by the lights on.

Anyway... Heres the full link
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjway2006/sets/72157616326853798/

Cool Papa B.
04-04-2009, 08:33 AM
how is the food:waving

The food is excellent. I recomend the BBQ pulled chicken sandwich with a side order of hush-puppies from brother Jimmies. Hopefully they open up the carts on the other levels though.

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 08:36 AM
Thanks Pinstripes for giving me credit for those pictures. I wish everyone was like that. But thats what I get for staying out late and waking up late this morning. Blah blah blah, here's some of the other pictures.Oh cool, I had no idea if that was even a baseball fever member or not, but the pictures were so great I wanted to show people. Great job.

CFmets09
04-04-2009, 08:36 AM
see this is what I was talking about, look at the lights behind home plate they aren't even on...

mets16
04-04-2009, 08:38 AM
see this is what I was talking about, look at the lights behind home plate they aren't even on...


Most ballparks do this. Shea did this and it was once controversial. When Carlos Delgado came to Shea as a Marlin in 2005, he stopped play to complain about the lights behind home plate.

monkeypants
04-04-2009, 08:39 AM
Trost also said the CF restaurant/cafe was a trade off. Either build an amenity for the bleacher fans (the cafe) or no amenity at all. No amenity and see the entire field or amenity but obstructed views.

I get the distinct impression that Trost is lying SOB. So now he basically blames the bleacher fans for the obstructions. Are we really to believe that the *ONLY* way to provide amenities for the bleacher fans was to plop an enormous restaurant in the way.

The fact that the stories keep changing (first no change in price, then reduced price to $5, TVs added obviously at the last minute despite his claim that they knew all along there would be an "architectural shadow") only underscores how he's making it up as he goes along.

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 08:41 AM
see this is what I was talking about, look at the lights behind home plate they aren't even on...That was intentional, probably to help the outfielders with the view on fly balls.

To me, while the rest of the stadium appeared dark, the field was extremely well lit. Newer lighting technologies make the lights more directional, as Aviator Frank pointed out in this post: http://www.baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1483180&postcount=682

bronxbombers2
04-04-2009, 08:45 AM
sorry, couldnt get nearly all that i wanted, sorry about format. But i got to go for now, so i hope you enjoy what i got so far.
http://yankeestoday2.blogspot.com/

80SHOCK
04-04-2009, 08:46 AM
Listen this restaurant in CF is not a big complaint with me. It's 5 bucks. Either you buy it or you don't. Watch it on the moniter (6 more will be added) or go stand in the back.
This obstructed view thing is getting tiring. If the Yankees don't sell those 5 dollar tickets, they'll just probably eventually remove the bleachers from the obstructed part and put grass there or something.
Then the rest of the bleacher tickets that aren't obstructed will be raised.
Happy now?

Aviator_Frank
04-04-2009, 08:47 AM
Anyone notice how the lights seem much warmer (color wise) than the lights at the old stadium? Things always looked blue and cold, but these have a much warmer yellow tint. It came across that way on TV, too. It gave the frieze an almost vintage look.

The old ones were mercury vapor which gave off a characteristic blue-green hue; these are most-likely metal halides which are skewed a bit more to the red end of the spectrum (lower K number)

Shea never had lights behind home plate.

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 08:56 AM
The old ones were mercury vapor which gave off a characteristic blue-green hue; these are most-likely metal halides which are skewed a bit more to the red end of the spectrum (lower K number)

Shea never had lights behind home plate.That's what I figured. The old stadium looked closer to maybe 7000-8000k whereas the new lights look more natural maybe 6000k.

Aviator_Frank
04-04-2009, 09:04 AM
I designed lighting systems many years ago and to start a technical discussion here would be to the detriment of 99% of the folks here, but Wikipedia has a good write-up on metal halides and mercury vapor . It's a good starting point.

Suffice it to say, anyone who judges a lighting installation solely on TV images is not getting the real, uh picture, pun intended.

NYFan1stYankFan2nd
04-04-2009, 09:04 AM
Thanks Pinstripes for giving me credit for those pictures. I wish everyone was like that. But thats what I get for staying out late and waking up late this morning. Blah blah blah, here's some of the other pictures.


Sorry Yankee fans, I had to :laugh


Good view form the bleachers.


Lurking in the background. I had to say, even as a Mets fan, I was sort of tearing up seeing how the old Yankee Stadium was sorta looking sad, knowing it has held all of these people, but they have moved on. Like seeing it got all prepared by the lights on.

Anyway... Heres the full link
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjway2006/sets/72157616326853798/

In reply to that last photo, I present the changing of the guard from the POV of a Trekker(OYS on the left) :

80SHOCK
04-04-2009, 09:13 AM
I designed lighting systems many years ago and to start a technical discussion here would be to the detriment of 99% of the folks here, but Wikipedia has a good write-up on metal halides and mercury vapor . It's a good starting point.

Suffice it to say, anyone who judges a lighting installation solely on TV images is not getting the real, uh picture, pun intended.

Thanks for the info.

What I took from it the Metal Halides lights are 3000 K which is very yellow and would be the lowest and 20,000 K would be very blue which is the highest.
Don't know much about lights but judges from what I saw on TV looks like the Yankees have theirs somewhere in the middle of that.

It's not the brightest nor the darkest. Maybe 14,000 K or 15,000 K?

NYFan1stYankFan2nd
04-04-2009, 09:20 AM
I designed lighting systems many years ago and to start a technical discussion here would be to the detriment of 99% of the folks here, but Wikipedia has a good write-up on metal halides and mercury vapor . It's a good starting point.

Suffice it to say, anyone who judges a lighting installation solely on TV images is not getting the real, uh picture, pun intended.

Agree 1000% (extra zero intended).

I'm a calibrator in my spare time, and cannot believe the resistance I run into regarding where TV picture adjustments should be set to.

Factory color temps of 9000+K are not out of the question, and no one seems to know where to set the sharpness, besides all the way up. :crazy

A FOOT is a FOOT, 12 inches - not 11, not 14, TWELVE, I tell 'em, but to no avail. The same reason standards exist in weights & measures is the same reason there's only one correct position for each picture setting on a monitor. Unfortunately, the "out-of-box" or, factory settings would have you believing that 2+2=9. And most people just settle for that!

Ever hear someone utter the time-honored statement in the presence of politician or celebrity: "You don't look like you do on TV"? Very likely it's the set that's at the heart of that statement.

Anywho back to stadium lighting and the Stadium in general.

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 09:22 AM
Thanks for the info.

What I took from it the Metal Halides lights are 3000 K which is very yellow and would be the lowest and 20,000 K would be very blue which is the highest.
Don't know much about lights but judges from what I saw on TV looks like the Yankees have theirs somewhere in the middle of that.

It's not the brightest nor the darkest. Maybe 14,000 K or 15,000 K?Those numbers are way too high. Even 9000k will come off looking very blue. The stadium lamps are much closer to "pure white" which is somewhere around 6500k.

NYFan1stYankFan2nd
04-04-2009, 09:24 AM
Those numbers are way too high. Even 9000k will come off looking very blue. The stadium lamps are much closer to "pure white" which is somewhere around 6500k.

:laugh I don't even know if 14,000K & up are visible to the human eye! :laugh

Pinstripes
04-04-2009, 09:28 AM
:laugh I don't even know if 14,000K & up are visible to the human eye! :laughYeah, that would be some serious purple. I think the scale is exponential/logarithmic sort of though, if I recall. Meaning that there are very noticeable changes in color from, say, 3000k to 9000k, where as from 9,000 to 50,000, it's probably going to just look really blue.

Aviator_Frank
04-04-2009, 09:47 AM
Here's a pic I took a couple years back of the OYS mercury vapors, after just being struck. Maybe 30 seconds max:

Yankee4life
04-04-2009, 10:05 AM
I had the good fortune to go last night, and here are my random thoughts on the new Stadium:
* Paul Olden is a pro, has a nice voice, etc., but he doesn't have the distinguished style that YS needs. He's bland and sounds like any generic announcer.

* There's a pretty serious bottleneck where the bleacher concourse meets the main structure. The passage is only about six feet wide, and it got jammed pretty easily , especially in right field.

* I sat in section 201 and experienced the obstruction first hand. The lack of the game feed on the monitors and the fact that there were only three were definitely problems. I heard Trost on with Francesa this morning as others have noted and I was glad to hear him say that they are fixing both of these issues. Otherwise, I agree with others' comments that for $5, it's a great deal. They do need to do something about scoreboards, though. The only way to track the game last night was a small spot on the ribbon board in the RF corner.

* One other note on the obstruction issue: I have not seen anyone mention that the existence of the MTA powerhouse adjacent to the tracks on River Ave beyond the bleachers had a major impact on the design of the Stadium. They could not move the powerhouse and were forced to stay inside of it. That definitely cut down on how much space they could use. I think if the powerhouse wasn't there, the restaurant could have been pushed back, reducing the obstruction.

* They're going to have a problem making the place look full. There is so much space in the building that people just get absorbed. With all the space, standing room, food options, restaurants, etc. they're actually encouraging people to not be in their seats. At RYS, there was nowhere to go but your seat. It'll be weird to have 50k plus people, but lots of empty seats on TV.

Overall, the place is awesome. It'll take a while to get used to the Yanks playing anywhere but the old Stadium, but it's definitely a great place.

A few pics:

Yankees12
04-04-2009, 10:17 AM
Oh yeah! Was waiting anxiously for your opinion once you got to see it in a game setting, and I'm thrilled that you like it. Now we can get your fair comparison of NYS to Citi (there is no doubt in my mind that you'll be fair and objective) sometime soon. :)

And if those photos were taken from the back row of the grandstand, let me tell you, they're outstanding it's not far at all from the action; much, much better than photos I've seen from the back of the upper deck at RYS.

Thanks! I'll make a comparison between NYS and Citi in that thread later today. It was way too late last night to write that up too, haha. ;)

And the photos taken from RF, near the foul pole, were all taken from the last row of the grandstand (anything from right behind home plate was taken from the concourse right in front of the Terrace seats). Having sat in the back row of RYS many, many times, I can honestly say I felt no further away than I did there, and I might have been at some of the furthest seats on the right side from home plate (since I was out near the foul pole but right before the Grandstand curves in to overhang the Main/Field levels more.

There's some things that I'm going to have to get used to at the new Stadium, especially from a watching-on-TV perspective. The new wall color (which I love, BTW), the lack of a gap in LF, and the backlit ads all will take awhile to get used to seeing.

I'm liking what I'm seeing so far on TV though (through a half inning). The outfield wall ads look a little bush league, but they didn't look bad in the park itself so I'm sure they'll grow on me. They need to be tightened up and ironed out though - there's still some wrinkles in them, especially around the edges.

Cool Papa B.
04-04-2009, 10:37 AM
I'm watch the game on YES. I love all of the different camera angles. But you do notice the net when they switch to the camera behind homeplate. It's not a huge deal IMO.....but you do notice it. To make it a perfect viewing experience they should move that one camera up just one level. The way it is now is like wearing a dirty pair of gym sox with an armani suit.

Between innings I'm switching to the Mets game. One of their cameras behind homeplate feels like it's on the roof!!! It's like the National Ballpark affect.

CFmets09
04-04-2009, 10:40 AM
Between innings I'm switching to the Mets game. One of their cameras behind homeplate feels like it's on the roof!!! It's like the National Ballpark affect.

lol no it's not it looks the same as shea

Cool Papa B.
04-04-2009, 10:46 AM
lol no it's not it looks the same as shea

Are you sure? That camera feels higher. I just watched pedroia hit a ball down the left field line and get thrown out at second. That camera angle is high!!!

donut726
04-04-2009, 10:51 AM
annoys the heck outta me

CFmets09
04-04-2009, 10:52 AM
Are you sure? That camera feels higher. I just watched pedroia hit a ball down the left field line and get thrown out at second. That camera angle is high!!!

I don't notice it and I don't notice the nys netting thing either. I think people are just focusing on the cameras because the new parks are opening but after a while it will seem normal.

BigJ
04-04-2009, 10:54 AM
Man the ball seems to fly out of the new Stadium. Hope it's not a bandbox when the weather heats up.

CFmets09
04-04-2009, 10:58 AM
Man the ball seems to fly out of the new Stadium. Hope it's not a bandbox when the weather heats up.

It might just be me but when the camera goes to the outfield, the walls seems a lot closer. Maybe it's just the camera idk but nys will definitely play much differently than citi. Tex is gonna love this place though.

Coach Bombay
04-04-2009, 10:58 AM
This might not be the neutral ballpark like old YS was.

Kentucky Bomber
04-04-2009, 10:59 AM
Holy shmoley, the ball is flying out to right center! Doesn't mean much for the rest of the year, different temps, winds, humidity, pitching staffs, but so far...woof!

BTW, the Cubs can't field a lick.

BigJ
04-04-2009, 11:00 AM
Tex's would have been out of any park but there have been some other balls hit that makes you wonder that's for sure.