Yankee Stadium (2009)

[RationalNYYfan]

I had no idea that Joe Girardi had braces.

What does this have to do with the New Yankee Stadium? Well, it happened in the clubhouse. So, there.



I saw that too, what the heck???

[LINYUSA]

I saw that too, what the heck???

Benefits of Adult Braces:

http://oral-health.suite101.com/article.cfm/adult_orthodontics

[dabigyankeeman]

I saw that too, what the heck???

Maybe Girardi is fixing himself up to try to steal Kate Hudson from A-Rod. :D

[Cool Papa B.]

Yankies4life, those pictures are awesome! Thanks for sharing them. Did anyone else notice that there was one person missing from last nights celebration.....Brian Cashman. I wonder why.

[yankies4life]

Yankies4life, those pictures are awesome! Thanks for sharing them. Did anyone else notice that there was one person missing from last nights celebration.....Brian Cashman. I wonder why.

from River Avenue Blues
"While the current Yankees were busy clinching a trip to the World Series last night, a potential future Yankee was busy meeting with GM Brian Cashman and several club officials. Cuban southpaw Aroldis Chapman attended Game Six as a fan (and as a “guest of the team“), and apparently at some point sat down with the braintrust and had what Jorge Arangure called “good conversations.” For what it’s worth, Chapman has already spoken to the Mets at CitiField."

[mets16]

from River Avenue Blues
"While the current Yankees were busy clinching a trip to the World Series last night, a potential future Yankee was busy meeting with GM Brian Cashman and several club officials. Cuban southpaw Aroldis Chapman attended Game Six as a fan (and as a “guest of the team“), and apparently at some point sat down with the braintrust and had what Jorge Arangure called “good conversations.” For what it’s worth, Chapman has already spoken to the Mets at CitiField."

He is probably 38 years old, or will end up the next Hideki Irabu.

[Cool Papa B.]

from River Avenue Blues
"While the current Yankees were busy clinching a trip to the World Series last night, a potential future Yankee was busy meeting with GM Brian Cashman and several club officials. Cuban southpaw Aroldis Chapman attended Game Six as a fan (and as a “guest of the team“), and apparently at some point sat down with the braintrust and had what Jorge Arangure called “good conversations.” For what it’s worth, Chapman has already spoken to the Mets at CitiField."

Thanks for the info Yankies4Life. Even on a night like last night, Cashman is still working. Personally, I'm not that impressed by Chapman. I think he has some work to do (and he definitely needs to develop a 3rd pitch) before he can pitch effectively in the big league's. I think the Yankees should focus on getting Yu Darvish more than Chapman.

[Cool Papa B.]

Not wasting any time. World Series Logo was painted onto the field. Still no championship flags on the frieze or anywhere.

GO YANKEES!!!!!

[Rob R]

The Phillies weigh in on their impressions of NYS when they visited earlier this year and their coming back there:


The Phillies sound pumped about the opponent and location for this year’s World Series. Here’s a sampling:

Jayson Werth: “There is a special mystique when you walk into Yankee Stadium, new or old. It’s the cathedral of baseball, and where everybody wanted to play as a kid. It’s Yankee Stadium. As far as that goes there might be something to that and a little bit of motivation.


Manuel was also looking forward to the challenge of playing against New York. “Playing the Yankees, and who their names are, and what they stand for, that’s enough to motivate you,” he said. “I know when I walk into Yankee Stadium, the new ballpark now, it’s almost like the old stadium except the locker rooms are better, bigger and everything. As far as the field goes…it’s still got that same feel to it.

“It’s just got an atmosphere, an aura about it.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies_zone/Phils_pumped_to_face_Yankees_rotation_and_roster_n otes.html

[Cool Papa B.]

the trash talking has begun. Why do players put themselves in positions like this. It should be interesting how loud Rollins will be booed in the Stadium. I thought the loudest boo would go to Pedro, but now I don't know.

GO YANKEES!!!!!!!

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2009/10/jimmy_rollins_predicts_phillie.html

[NYBase]

the trash talking has begun. Why do players put themselves in positions like this. It should be interesting how loud Rollins will be booed in the Stadium. I thought the loudest boo would go to Pedro, but now I don't know.

GO YANKEES!!!!!!!

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2009/10/jimmy_rollins_predicts_phillie.html

I like how the comment has been ignored by everyone (as i comment about it, lol)

[RationalNYYfan]

I like how the comment has been ignored by everyone (as i comment about it, lol)

Oh yeah, that Rollins comment doesn't bother me at all. No biggie, I'm just gonna ignore him.


*projects anger by kicking nearby trashcan*

:waving

[Rob R]

the trash talking has begun. Why do players put themselves in positions like this. It should be interesting how loud Rollins will be booed in the Stadium. I thought the loudest boo would go to Pedro, but now I don't know.

GO YANKEES!!!!!!!

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2009/10/jimmy_rollins_predicts_phillie.html

Pretty interesting coming from a player with .250 BA, .296 OBP and .719 OPS during the regular season and even worse numbers this post season.

[dabigyankeeman]

Pretty interesting coming from a player with .250 BA, .296 OBP and .719 OPS during the regular season and even worse numbers this post season.

Not quite as good as Jeter, are they?

Jeter: .334 BA, .406 OBP, and .871 OPS during the regular season!:clapping

But that talk of his is fine with me, its part of sports. The Yankees will do their talking with their bats and pitchers.

[Rob R]

Not quite as good as Jeter, are they?

Jeter: .334 BA, .406 OBP, and .871 OPS during the regular season!:clapping

But that talk of his is fine with me, its part of sports. The Yankees will do their talking with their bats and pitchers.

Very true. But, ever notice that the Yankees never trash talk, win or lose; that they always take the high road?

[Cool Papa B.]

Very true. But, ever notice that the Yankees never trash talk, win or lose; that they always take the high road?

Very true rob. I'm listening to 1050ESPN radio as I write this & they just interviewed Jimmy Rollins and he said he IS NOT backing down on his comments. He meant what he said and the way he said it. Stupid. Now I really want him to get booed.

GO YANKEES!!!!!!!

[dabigyankeeman]

Very true. But, ever notice that the Yankees never trash talk, win or lose; that they always take the high road?

Derek Jeter sets the tone, and everyone follows. Plus the Yankees go about it as professionals and just win on the field.

[Cool Papa B.]

Pictures from workout day today:

[yankies4life]

Pictures from workout day today:

there doesnt appear to be anything different to the stadium except the World Series logo on the field.

im keeping my fingers crossed for something special tomorrow night

[Cool Papa B.]

Here's a link to the rest of the pictures:

http://www.apimages.com/Search.aspx?st=det&sort=date&id=World%20Series%20Phillies%20Yankees%20Baseball&showact=events&prds=10001&intv=3d&sh=10&kwstyle=and&adte=1256670675&pagez=60&cfasstyle=AND&

[NYBase]

Is that Matt Stairs? He looks older than Girardi.

[Gary Dunaier]

Oh yeah, that Rollins comment doesn't bother me at all. No biggie, I'm just gonna ignore him.

Ignore who? Did somebody say something? :D

[NYBase]

What's up with the lighter blue on the second and third deck? Tarp?

[The Korean]

Very true. But, ever notice that the Yankees never trash talk, win or lose; that they always take the high road?

Nick Swisher does it time to time. Remember how he called a pitcher a fat lard or something?

[NYFan1stYankFan2nd]

Nick Swisher does it time to time. Remember how he called a pitcher a fat lard or something?

That's NOTHING. Namecalling is as old as 'rounders itself! Dating celebrities while married? That's a 21st century twist and something I'm not proud to associate with as a fan of the NY Yankees.

[The Korean]

Players gets fined now a days for trash talking. Sad really.

[NYFan1stYankFan2nd]

Derek Jeter sets the tone, and everyone follows. Plus the Yankees go about it as professionals and just win on the field.

Thank GOD DJ sets the tone! If A-Rod were setting the tone as you put it - the whole thing would resemble a bad Prince or Pink Floyd movie!! :laugh

[dabigyankeeman]

Nick Swisher does it time to time. Remember how he called a pitcher a fat lard or something?

That was George Steinbrenner calling his own Hideki Irabu a fat turd.
:laugh

[Cool Papa B.]

Looks like the security tomorrow will be similar to the 2001 series.
Here’s the official release from Major League Baseball…

First Lady of the United States Michelle Obama, Dr. Jill Biden, and other dignitaries and elected officials will attend Game One of the 2009 World Series in support of returning veterans and their families. Due to their attendance, security will be increased in and around Yankee Stadium. Fans entering the ballpark will be required to pass through security which will cause delays in getting to their seats.

MLB is offering the following tips to fans attending the game:

• Arrive early to allow for enough time to enter the park as you should expect long lines.
• The gates open at 5:00 p.m. Eastern
• On-field ceremonies begin at 7:30 p.m. Eastern
• Do not bring bottles or coolers of any kind into the ballpark. They will not be permitted.
• Do not bring anything that you would not be allowed to bring on a plane. The rules for what items you can bring into the stadium will be the same as TSA restrictions, which you can find at www.tsa.gov. Any items surrendered at the gates will not be returned.
• Please minimize items you bring into the stadium to speed up the inspection process.

[tugger]

So it's like this, pretty much:

[VAPYankees4]

Soooo since Pedro is starting game 2 do u think the crowd will start the Who's Your Daddy? chant again. I know he's been back to the stadium since then as a met and they didn't say it but if u think about it we have never faced him on this stage before. Yes we have faced him in multiple ALCS's but never a world series. I say Break out the Who's your daddy? chant. That would awesome

[Jim Vaz]

Maybe surface, but who knows, it could be from vibrations and movements. Either way all fixable things that they need to do right.

[Gary Dunaier]

Players gets fined now a days for trash talking. Sad really.

Fines for improper talking go back as far as the beginning of the game itself.


What is often referred to as the first recorded game played under the Knickerbocker Rules (now believed to be yet another intra-squad game), took place on June 19, 1846, when the Knickerbockers lost to the New York Baseball Club (aka "the New York Nine") 23–1 in four innings. The winning team was comprised mainly of Knickerbocker players. Cartwright umpired the contest and enforced a six-cent fine, payable on the spot, for swearing.

(Underlining added to the original, which can be found here (http://www.19cbaseball.com/game.html).)

[dabigyankeeman]

Soooo since Pedro is starting game 2 do u think the crowd will start the Who's Your Daddy? chant again. I know he's been back to the stadium since then as a met and they didn't say it but if u think about it we have never faced him on this stage before. Yes we have faced him in multiple ALCS's but never a world series. I say Break out the Who's your daddy? chant. That would awesome

I hope they do.

In the first game the Marlins ever played, (against the Dodgers), i started a Dar-ryl, Dar-ryl chant that the whole stadium took up for Darryl Strawberry. Pedro certainly deserves one. In fact, some 78-year old guy should jump out of the stands and charge him and see if he throws them to the ground too.:D

[SHOELESSJOE3]

Nick Swisher does it time to time. Remember how he called a pitcher a fat lard or something?

I don't consider that trash, not like bragging you beat a team or your going to beat a team.
More like a personal insult, we see lots of that. And I do not cut Nick any slack, should not have made that statement.

[Rob R]

Maybe surface, but who knows, it could be from vibrations and movements. Either way all fixable things that they need to do right.

Ditto at CF. Fixable, much ado about nothing, but the contractor should be held responsible.

Anyway, is your "4" rooting for the Yanks or Phils? It's gotta be a tough watch for Mets fans either way.

[dabigyankeeman]

Ditto at CF. Fixable, much ado about nothing, but the contractor should be held responsible.

Anyway, is your "4" rooting for the Yanks or Phils? It's gotta be a tough watch for Mets fans either way.

Mets fans should root for the Yankees. The Yankees are from NEW YORK. You should root for teams from your home city. Its fine to root against each other when they play each other, but you should root for both to win their respective league championships, and if one of them goes to the world series, all New Yorkers should root for whichever one is there, its city pride.

[Rob R]

Mets fans should root for the Yankees. The Yankees are from NEW YORK. You should root for teams from your home city. Its fine to root against each other when they play each other, but you should root for both to win their respective league championships, and if one of them goes to the world series, all New Yorkers should root for whichever one is there, its city pride.

Agreed 100%. Yanks first, NYC second - almost like the name of one of our fellow members.

It's like us rooting for the Sox against the Mets. I'd rather have all my teeth pulled.

[mets16]

Mets fans should root for the Yankees. The Yankees are from NEW YORK. You should root for teams from your home city. Its fine to root against each other when they play each other, but you should root for both to win their respective league championships, and if one of them goes to the world series, all New Yorkers should root for whichever one is there, its city pride.

I am 'rooting' for the Yankees. I really have nothing against the team, In fact I love the team. They really impressed me It is the "fans" that make me seem Yankee hater-ish. I can't stand the Phillies, and I would never, ever want them to win. They are a bunch of punks. It is definitely the best 2 teams matched up, but go Yanks!

[PhillyFan]

Gotta love it! :)

[PhillyFan]

I am 'rooting' for the Yankees. I really have nothing against the team, In fact I love the team. They really impressed me It is the "fans" that make me seem Yankee hater-ish. I can't stand the Phillies, and I would never, ever want them to win. They are a bunch of punks. It is definitely the best 2 teams matched up, but go Yanks!

Thank god we have punks who win though!

[mets16]

Thank god we have punks

Not to mention their fanbase. Probably have the largest inferiority complex out of all cities. Being second behind New York is tough, I know.

[Rob R]

Probably have the largest inferiority complex out of all cities. Being second behind New York is tough, I know.

Wouldn't that be Chicago? ;)

[Rob R]

Gotta love it! :)

Hey PhillyFan...Here's to a great series!

[mets16]

Wouldn't that be Chicago? ;)

Haha, after New York, it is all arguable. Here's to the 27th championship! By the way, I'm going to hold onto the Post with Victorino in a skirt for a long, long time.

[Rob R]

Haha, after New York, it is all arguable. Here's to the 27th championship! By the way, I'm going to hold onto the Post with Victorino in a skirt for a long, long time.

LOL..yeah, after NY the country becomes very Stepford Wives-ish; pretty much all the same. ;)

But if ChiTown is the 2nd city, I'd imagine LA and Boston are ahead of Philly, dropping them to, well, 5th at best. :) OK I kid....sorta.

Ever see New Yorker magazine's map of the world?

[mets16]

[Rob R]

LOL...you beat me to it. It's called "View of the World from 9th Avenue."

All in fun.

[tugger]

Haha, after New York, it is all arguable. Here's to the 27th championship! By the way, I'm going to hold onto the Post with Victorino in a skirt for a long, long time.

Interesting you should find that picture so . . . fascinating. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[mets16]

Interesting you should find that picture so . . . fascinating. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I see what you're getting at haha. No, It's kinda like he is the Darcy Tucker of the MLB. The media seems really mean about this series though. It's gonna be really interesting.

[Rob R]

Interesting you should find that picture so . . . fascinating. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Wasn't it a take--or mockery-- on what Victorino's own team did?

http://deadspin.com/262887/shane-victorino-and-his-skirt-can-be-on-your-dashboard

[MarcianoNY]

Mets fans should root for the Yankees. The Yankees are from NEW YORK. You should root for teams from your home city. Its fine to root against each other when they play each other, but you should root for both to win their respective league championships, and if one of them goes to the world series, all New Yorkers should root for whichever one is there, its city pride.

Amen brother. I think a lot of Yankee fans, in their hearts, would rather see the Mets win than some random team from a flyover state (I kid). There's Yankee pride, and then there's New York pride. Let's go Yanks!

[Rob R]

Amen brother. I think a lot of Yankee fans, in their hearts, would rather see the Mets win than some random team from a flyover state (I kid). There's Yankee pride, and then there's New York pride. Let's go Yanks!

I'm in mets16's camp in reverse. I root for NY teams, including the Mets if they're in a championship game against some other city. It's some of their annoying fans that's the problem - the one's who seem more interested in the Yank's doings/failings than their own team. Not all Mets fans, but enough. Boston fans have that same obsession- they can win the World Series but would be disappointed if they didn't take the season series from the Yanks. Or they'll chant "Yankee sucks" at a Patriot's celebration as they did when their team won for the first time and afterward. Strange.

[mets16]

So I would assume if a Mets- Red Sox fall classic happened, the Yanks fans would pull for the Metsies?

[tugger]

Wasn't it a take--or mockery-- on what Victorino's own team did?

http://deadspin.com/262887/shane-victorino-and-his-skirt-can-be-on-your-dashboard

Jeez, I'm trying to stir things up here, and you tramp it down with facts! Oh well. Hope it's a good WS, we haven't had one in quite a while.

[Jim Vaz]

Sorry, I just don't get the "New York" thing. Never have never will. I'm a Mets fan, a Rangers fan, and a Giants fan...NOT a NY fan.

The Yankees are not my rival on the field and never will be, but in every other aspect off of it they are.
I don't live with, work with, friends with, associate with Philly fans. Despite the possibilty of them really gloating it up after beating the Yankees and giving it to us lowly Mets fans, they are harmless to me 95 miles away. The Yankees winning another title is just one more headache to add. One more added jab at my team when I try to defend them or legitimize my fandom.

We've had this city for own and captured it by storm all but 2 times, in 1969 and 1986. The rest of the time its been "there" city.

I would always debate these Mets fans who want another Subway series. HELL NO. Yes it woul be nice to beat them, but I'm selfish, I don't want to share the moment with them, I want the city all to us. I felt it a little in 2006, but that ended quickly.

I don't want to root for the Yankees and I never will.

[Rob R]

Jeez, I'm trying to stir things up here, and you tramp it down with facts! Oh well. Hope it's a good WS, we haven't had one in quite a while.

LOL...whoops, my bad. Stir away...

[Rob R]

Sorry, I just don't get the "New York" thing. Never have never will. I'm a Mets fan, a Rangers fan, and a Giants fan...NOT a NY fan.

The Yankees are not my rival on the field and never will be, but in every other aspect off of it they are.
I don't live with, work with, friends with, associate with Philly fans. Despite the possibilty of them really gloating it up after beating the Yankees and giving it to us lowly Mets fans, they are harmless to me 95 miles away. The Yankees winning another title is just one more headache to add. One more added jab at my team when I try to defend them or legitimize my fandom.

We've had this city for own and captured it by storm all but 2 times, in 1969 and 1986. The rest of the time its been "there" city.

I would always debate these Mets fans who want another Subway series. HELL NO. Yes it woul be nice to beat them, but I'm selfish, I don't want to share the moment with them, I want the city all to us. I felt it a little in 2006, but that ended quickly.

I don't want to root for the Yankees and I never will.

Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel. ;)

I don't know, dude, Boston is 300 miles away, but those gnats can be heard and felt as if they're stalking me. Plus, we have to hear those drunks doing their thing on TV 9 times a year. With the Mets, not as often. I just tune Mets fan friends, co-workers and family out and when they start bitching about the Yanks all I hear is something like, "Blah blah murmer murmer Piazza, blah blah, murmer 1986 blah blah."

[tugger]

I don't feel like I have to have a rooting interest to enjoy a series. I just enjoy watching top teams that know how to play the game (I'm looking at you, Angels). I've worked in Cleveland the last 20 years, but I enjoyed watching the Yankees in the late 90s because they knew how to pay the game (besides that knoblauch guy, anyway). They didn't give up the extra base, they did the little things, the smart things, all the time. Give me pitching, execution, lead changes and close games and I'm happy, no matter who's playing.

[Rob R]

I don't feel like I have to have a rooting interest to enjoy a series. I just enjoy watching top teams that know how to play the game (I'm looking at you, Angels). I've worked in Cleveland the last 20 years, but I enjoyed watching the Yankees in the late 90s because they knew how to pay the game (besides that knoblauch guy, anyway). They didn't give up the extra base, they did the little things, the smart things, all the time. Give me pitching, execution, lead changes and close games and I'm happy, no matter who's playing.
I'm confused. Aren't you a Phillies fan or at least have a rooting interest in them, or are you talking about World Series in which they aren't participating?

[MarcianoNY]

I'm in mets16's camp in reverse. I root for NY teams, including the Mets if they're in a championship game against some other city. It's some of their annoying fans that's the problem - the one's who seem more interested in the Yank's doings/failings than their own team. Not all Mets fans, but enough. Boston fans have that same obsession- they can win the World Series but would be disappointed if they didn't take the season series from the Yanks. Or they'll chant "Yankee sucks" at a Patriot's celebration as they did when their team won for the first time and afterward. Strange.

Childish. There are frontrunners for every team though... I always have this discussion with my friends who are Mets fans and I usually have to stop after hearing about some kid in a Yankees hat who paid for a ticket at Citi Field just to root as obnoxiously as possible for the Phillies or whatever team is playing the Mets... I can't honestly say I would disapprove of a beat-down being issued in that situation. I think some of the bandwagon-jumpers don't necessarily "get" the idea that we don't have to act like we have an inferiority complex. But, like I said, I think that's not really representative of the real fanbase. Anyone who lives in New York and says they don't want a team from their city and state to win at the end of the day is nuts. I have friends who are Jets and Bills fans who were unashamed to root for the G-Men to bring a championship back to NY, and I feel pretty confident that my friends who are Mets fans feel the same.

[mets16]

but I enjoyed watching the Yankees in the late 90s because they knew how to pay the game

I guess that explains the Jeffery Maier incident in '96.:laugh

[Jim Vaz]

Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel. ;)

I don't know, dude, Boston is 300 miles away, but those gnats can be heard and felt as if they're stalking me. Plus, we have to hear those drunks doing their thing on TV 9 times a year. With the Mets, not as often. I just tune Mets fan friends, co-workers and family out and when they start bitching about the Yanks all I hear is something like, "Blah blah murmer murmer Piazza, blah blah, murmer 1986 blah blah."

Well you're a Yankees fan, its easy to tune us out, we have no ammunition. :laugh

No I hear you. You have to remember to though, the Red Sox/Yankees rivalry is a WHOLE different level.
Mets and Phillies have never really been much of a rivalry. Every time the Mets were good the Phils sucked, and vice versa. Its only real true moment was in 2007. Other then that, there really is no connection between the Phillie and Met fan.

[Rob R]

Well you're a Yankees fan, its easy to tune us out, we have no ammunition. :laugh

No I hear you. You have to remember to though, the Red Sox/Yankees rivalry is a WHOLE different level.
Mets and Phillies have never really been much of a rivalry. Every time the Mets were good the Phils sucked, and vice versa. Its only real true moment was in 2007. Other then that, there really is no connection between the Phillie and Met fan.

Got it. Makes more sense now. As an aside, and to keep this thread wayyy off topic, who would you consider the Met's biggest rivals (if any)? The Braves? Cards? Or just who their main competition is at the time? Or.....the Yanks??

[tugger]

I'm confused. Aren't you a Phillies fan or at least have a rooting interest in them, or are you talking about World Series in which they aren't participating?

I did grow up outside of Philly, and I like to see them do well because my nieces and nephews are fans, so I'll be pulling for them. But I've lived in Cleveland the last 20 years and don't really follow them. I was speaking more in general, in that most years one's team is not in the world series, but you can still enjoy a good game no matter who is playing. And, frankly, I found the 2008 WS rather dreadful. Not one lead change, Phils left an astounding 45 men on base in 5 games.

[Jim Vaz]

Childish. There are frontrunners for every team though... I always have this discussion with my friends who are Mets fans and I usually have to stop after hearing about some kid in a Yankees hat who paid for a ticket at Citi Field just to root as obnoxiously as possible for the Phillies or whatever team is playing the Mets... I can't honestly say I would disapprove of a beat-down being issued in that situation. I think some of the bandwagon-jumpers don't necessarily "get" the idea that we don't have to act like we have an inferiority complex. But, like I said, I think that's not really representative of the real fanbase. Anyone who lives in New York and says they don't want a team from their city and state to win at the end of the day is nuts. I have friends who are Jets and Bills fans who were unashamed to root for the G-Men to bring a championship back to NY, and I feel pretty confident that my friends who are Mets fans feel the same.

I would NEVER root for the Bills or the Sabres! I just don't get this NY thing. You think any Rangers fan is going to root for the Islanders??? If you think so then you don't know the dynamic of that rivalry.

I will admit, I casually root for the Jets, and I really want to see them win a superbowl someday but of course not at the Giants expense.
Besides football fans don't tend to be so ingrained and whiny like the baseball fan. We have our rivalries, the Cwboys and Eagles, they SUCK and thats that. Thats how the football fan thinks.

[MarcianoNY]

Got it. Makes more sense now. As an aside, and to keep this thread wayyy off topic, who would you consider the Met's biggest rivals (if any)? The Braves? Cards? Or just who their main competition is at the time? Or.....the Yanks??

I was listening to Don La Greca talk about this on the Michael Kay show a few days ago, and he basically said the same thing: the Phillies/Mets rivalry is not the same because the Mets "rivals" change so much - Cards in the 80s, Braves in the 90s, Phillies only in the last couple years. I guess that point makes sense... but still, La Greca is such a whiner that I have a tough time taking anything he says seriously.

[MarcianoNY]

I would NEVER root for the Bills or the Sabres! I just don't get this NY thing. You think any Rangers fan is going to root for the Islanders??? If you think so then you don't know the dynamic of that rivalry.

I will admit, I casually root for the Jets, and I really want to see them win a superbowl someday but of course not at the Giants expense.
Besides football fans don't tend to be so ingrained and whiny like the baseball fan. We have our rivalries, the Cwboys and Eagles, they SUCK and thats that. Thats how the football fan thinks.

Well, obviously it would make no geographic sense for a Rangers fan to root for the Islanders or an Islanders fan to root for the Sabres. I'm not even gonna get into the hockey aspect. The Bills are different because there are plenty of Bills fans North of the 845 area code, even though they may be in hiding lately. The football mentality you mention definitely makes sense. But yeah, to each his own I guess. I don't have a problem with any New York team winning and would definitely rather see the Mets win than the Diamondbacks or Padres or some other team that averages 5,000 people a game the year after they win the pennant... in the name of "competitive balance". At least the Mets have a fanbase that is dedicated to their team, for better or worse.

[tugger]

I would NEVER root for the Bills or the Sabres! I just don't get this NY thing.

Buffalo is not even in the same national region as NYC, just like Pittsburgh's in a different region than Philly. they're Midwestern cities. Only reason they're in the same state is because back in the colonial days, no one could imagine enough people living that far west to warrant a separate govt - just a bunch of trappers.

of course, I am talking out my backside, here.

[MarcianoNY]

Buffalo is not even in the same national region as NYC, just like Pittsburgh's in a different region than Philly. they're Midwestern cities. Only reason they're in the same state is because back in the colonial days, no one could imagine enough people living that far west to warrant a separate govt - just a bunch of trappers.

of course, I am talking out my backside, here.

True, but there's a dividing line somewhere around Albany where people are still firmly in Yankees/Mets, Knicks, Rangers territory but many of them can't wrap their heads around the idea of rooting for a football team that plays in New Jersey. It's sort of a weird dynamic, that was definitely more visible in the eighties-early nineties when A. the Bills didn't suck and B. then-governor Mario Cuomo made a big deal about rejecting the "Jersey" teams.

[whitesox901]

Buffalo is not even in the same national region as NYC, just like Pittsburgh's in a different region than Philly. they're Midwestern cities. Only reason they're in the same state is because back in the colonial days, no one could imagine enough people living that far west to warrant a separate govt - just a bunch of trappers.

of course, I am talking out my backside, here.

I wouldn't exactly call Pittsburgh or Philly "midwest"

- Midwestern resident

[tugger]

I wouldn't exactly call Pittsburgh or Philly "midwest"

- Midwestern resident

I meant Philly is Northeast and Pittsburgh is, or at least leans, Midwest.

[whitesox901]

I meant Philly is Northeast and Pittsburgh is, or at least leans, Midwest.

Ah okay, my bad :waving

[voodoochile]

tugger, where you from? I was born in South Philly, and lived in the mushroom capital of the world for about 10 years. You know what town that is, right?

YANKEE FANS, I have some interesting news for you. Except for my immediate family, all of my relatives are in Philadelphia, and, of course, are Phillies fans, but I'm a Yankee fan.
I went to Fenway Park for the first time in 2004. They hadn't won the World Series since 1918, but they did in 2004.

Last year I went to Yankee Stadium because it was the final year. I also visited my relatives in Philly, and went to Citizens Bank Park for the first time. The Phillies hadn't won the World Series since 1980, but they did in 2008.

This year I wanted to go to Yankee Stadium because it was the first year, but couldn't afford it. Bald Vinny (the Bleacher Creature Bald Vinny) said that if I could make it there, he could make tickets happen. I made it there and went to the new Yankee Stadium for the first time. The Yankees hadn't won the World Series since 2000, but . . . . .

[Rob R]

Woooo hooo! voodoochile bringing some Yankee luck!

For those who've never been to NYS, I found this video. Gives a nice perspective of NYS entering from the bleacher section and the bleacher seats:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgqO8j5Ldhc&feature=related

[mandrake]

Has any Giants fan gone to a Jets game wearing something "Giants", or say just going to a Jets- Giants game , even a preseason game. Or vice versa? Anything bad happen ? Unless one TRIES to start trouble by flaming people around them, everyone is pretty safe. In NY, a Ranger fan can go to Nassau or Newark; a Yankee fan can go to Flushing, a Mets fan to Da Bronx. Nothing will happen.

Yet, wear Mets garb in Philly, Giants jerseys at an Eagles game (especially at the Vet), or wearing Rangers stuff at a Flyers game. Then see what happens.
:crazy

At their worst, no NYC crowd is as bad as a Philly crowd.

GO YANKEES:clapping

[Rob R]

A little old school Yankee rallying music to bring us luck and get us psyched. By the way, Kevin, you're the man. Couldn't think of a nicer guy to have on our side, even if temporary!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6-ILQXEMVA&feature=related

[dabigyankeeman]

So I would assume if a Mets- Red Sox fall classic happened, the Yanks fans would pull for the Metsies?

I would, in fact, if the Mets were in the world series and the Yankees werent, i would (and have) root for the Mets. They are from NEW YORK.:clapping

Note that when i say New York, i mean the New York city area, way upstate like Buffalo has nothing to do with New York City, its a different world, should be a separate state.

[Cool Papa B.]

As the tradition has before a World series or any other championship, the mayors of the 2 cities making bets that includes different foods that are unique to their cities. I was expecting a cheesecake and NY style pizza from bloomberg and Philly Cheesesteaks from the Philly mayor if the Phillies lose. But this year is different and I thought this was a nice gesture from both mayors.

GO YANKEES!!!!!!

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2009/10/28/2009-10-28_mayors_bet_cleanup.html

[peterrod16]

kinda wish the yanks could put the championship banners on the frieze.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/67827566@N00/2596977350/
also due to the weather jay-z perfomance will be prior to game 2
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/yankees/2009/10/rain-threat-alters-pregame-wha.html

[NYaDiO]

kinda wish the yanks could put the championship banners on the frieze.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/67827566@N00/2596977350/
also due to the weather jay-z perfomance will be prior to game 2
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/yankees/2009/10/rain-threat-alters-pregame-wha.html

I agree, hopefully if they win this year. Next year's Opening Day when they receive their rings and raise their new banner they could have unviel it on the frieze along with other championship banners.

[peterrod16]

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/

The New York Yankees announced today that they will open the Yankee Stadium Field Level and Great Hall to the public to watch the broadcast of the World Series Game 4 from Philadelphia on Sunday, November 1. (The opening will be dependent on weather conditions in Philadelphia permitting the game to be played.)

Turnstiles between Gates 4 and 6 will open at 7:00 p.m. for the 8:20 p.m. game. Fans can watch the Game in the Great Hall or in the opened sections of the Field Level.

“When we opened the Stadium for Game 3 in the ALCS, the response was positive and the energy from our fans was truly infectious. They really enjoyed coming together to watch the game,” said Hal Steinbrenner, Yankees Managing General Partner. “Once we reached the World Series, we felt that it was the perfect time to open the Stadium again. We remain grateful for the support of the best fans in baseball.”

Food and concession stands will be open and available to fans. NYY Steak and Hard Rock Café will also be open.

[locke40]

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/

The New York Yankees announced today that they will open the Yankee Stadium Field Level and Great Hall to the public to watch the broadcast of the World Series Game 4 from Philadelphia on Sunday, November 1. (The opening will be dependent on weather conditions in Philadelphia permitting the game to be played.)

Turnstiles between Gates 4 and 6 will open at 7:00 p.m. for the 8:20 p.m. game. Fans can watch the Game in the Great Hall or in the opened sections of the Field Level.

“When we opened the Stadium for Game 3 in the ALCS, the response was positive and the energy from our fans was truly infectious. They really enjoyed coming together to watch the game,” said Hal Steinbrenner, Yankees Managing General Partner. “Once we reached the World Series, we felt that it was the perfect time to open the Stadium again. We remain grateful for the support of the best fans in baseball.”

Food and concession stands will be open and available to fans. NYY Steak and Hard Rock Café will also be open.

I will DEFINITELY be there for this! :nod::nod::nod::nod::nod:

[Rob R]

So I would assume if a Mets- Red Sox fall classic happened, the Yanks fans would pull for the Metsies?
Absolutely. My colors would be blue and orange.

[BL73]

I was hoping someone could help me out with some seating information. I was looking to buy seats in "Main Suite" and was wondering if these were indoor seats only, or if they also included the option of sitting outside. Thanks for any help!

[locke40]

I was hoping someone could help me out with some seating information. I was looking to buy seats in "Main Suite" and was wondering if these were indoor seats only, or if they also included the option of sitting outside. Thanks for any help!

It is my understanding that the "Main Suite" section is the Delta Sky360 Suite, which is located directly behind homeplate. Go here (http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ballpark/seating_pricing.jsp), and click the dark green seats behind homeplate, numbered 218 to 222. And yes, there is outdoor seating, as well as an indoor bar/restaurant type setup.

[NYaDiO]

I will DEFINITELY be there for this! :nod::nod::nod::nod::nod:

Yeah I enjoyed my first time during the ALCS so I think I'll be there as well. Anybody else going I would love to meet up with fellow Baseball-Fever members.

[locke40]

I just got tickets to Game 1 through work, and I have a sneaky feeling they are Legends Seats!!!!!!! I am sooooo frickin' excited!!!!! Do you think they will allow an umbrella into the stadium, or should I just not bother with it??? :rainy::rainy::rainy::rainy::rainy:

[dabigyankeeman]

I just got tickets to Game 1 through work, and I have a sneaky feeling they are Legends Seats!!!!!!! I am sooooo frickin' excited!!!!! Do you think they will allow an umbrella into the stadium, or should I just not bother with it??? :rainy::rainy::rainy::rainy::rainy:

While watching on tv, i always see people with umbrellas in the stands. Enjoy your game, i wish i was going with you.:rainy::nod:

[NYaDiO]

I just got tickets to Game 1 through work, and I have a sneaky feeling they are Legends Seats!!!!!!! I am sooooo frickin' excited!!!!! Do you think they will allow an umbrella into the stadium, or should I just not bother with it??? :rainy::rainy::rainy::rainy::rainy:

That's sweet news hopefully all goes good tonight and we play *fingers crossed* And from what I've seen they have let umbrellas into the Stadium before. When I have gone on rainy days which was like twice I think people had umbrellas and you can also see they allow umbrellas from the amount shown on tv during games.
Hope you enjoy man I'm so jealous, you're gonna be 10 - 15 min away from my house at the Stadium.

A question of my own there were no fly overs during the ALCS, think they'll be a fly over during the WS? That was my favorite part of the WS. I remember the 2003 WS I saw the jet fire and all that and it passed soooo close to my house it was amazing.

[yankies4life]

That's sweet news hopefully all goes good tonight and we play *fingers crossed* And from what I've seen they have let umbrellas into the Stadium before. When I have gone on rainy days which was like twice I think people had umbrellas and you can also see they allow umbrellas from the amount shown on tv during games.
Hope you enjoy man I'm so jealous, you're gonna be 10 - 15 min away from my house at the Stadium.

A question of my own there were no fly overs during the ALCS, think they'll be a fly over during the WS? That was my favorite part of the WS. I remember the 2003 WS I saw the jet fire and all that and it passed soooo close to my house it was amazing.

im pretty positive i heard that there will be a fly over but i guess it might have something to do with weather conditions. who knows

[Gary Dunaier]

I just got tickets to Game 1 through work, and I have a sneaky feeling they are Legends Seats!!!!!!! I am sooooo frickin' excited!!!!! Do you think they will allow an umbrella into the stadium, or should I just not bother with it??? :rainy::rainy::rainy::rainy::rainy:

What section do you have?

As far as umbrellas, normally I'd say bring it... but as it happens, there's going to be increased security tonight, so all bets are off...


10/27/2009 5:30 PM ET

Major League Baseball asks fans to arrive early to Game One of the World Series due to increased security

First Lady of the United States Michelle Obama, Dr. Jill Biden, and other dignitaries and elected officials will attend Game One of the 2009 World Series in support of returning veterans and their families. Due to their attendance, security will be increased in and around Yankee Stadium. Fans entering the ballpark will be required to pass through security which will cause delays in getting to their seats.

MLB is offering the following tips to fans attending the game:


Arrive early to allow for enough time to enter the park as you should expect long lines.

The gates open at 5:00 p.m. Eastern

On-field ceremonies begin at 7:30 p.m. Eastern

Do not bring bottles or coolers of any kind into the ballpark. They will not be permitted.

Do not bring anything that you would not be allowed to bring on a plane. The rules for what items you can bring into the stadium will be the same as TSA restrictions, which you can find at www.tsa.gov. Any items surrendered at the gates will not be returned.

Please minimize items you bring into the stadium to speed up the inspection process.

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20091027&content_id=7560700&vkey=pr_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

[NYaDiO]

Oh true Gary's got a point. I forgot about the increased security, so nobody is actually sure what to expect. Are umbrellas allowed on planes?

[TommieAgeefan]

Oh true Gary's got a point. I forgot about the increased security, so nobody is actually sure what to expect. Are umbrellas allowed on planes?

My last few flights, I took a small umbrella on board (was inside my carry-on). Not a peep out of the TSA. But who knows what NYS will do.

[Captain Cold Nose]

Oh true Gary's got a point. I forgot about the increased security, so nobody is actually sure what to expect. Are umbrellas allowed on planes?

It has to do with open umbrellas creating an obstucted view, not necessarily a security risk. Planes and NYS are not an apt comparison for that.

[locke40]

Alright, I will be cautious and not even bring the umbrella.

Anyway, just got the tickets from my rep, and we will be sitting in Section 104. She said she tried to get Legends, but it was impossible. I told her, I didn't care at all!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D

[peterrod16]

Alright, I will be cautious and not even bring the umbrella.

Anyway, just got the tickets from my rep, and we will be sitting in Section 104. She said she tried to get Legends, but it was impossible. I told her, I didn't care at all!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D

locke40 take a pic or two if possible
FYI
http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2009/10/ny_yankees_strongly_encourage.html
NEW YORK -- This warning just came over from the Yankees. It's worth your attention:

Due to special pregame ceremonies before Game 1 of tonight’s World Series at Yankee Stadium, Major League Baseball is implementing additional security measures in select seating locations. The additional security screening will occur every time guests enter their seating location before the start of the game. If guests leave their seats, they will be screened again upon returning to their seating location.

Guests attending tonight’s game should plan accordingly and arrive early at the Stadium to allow plenty of time to enjoy the pregame ceremonies. Gates open at 5:00 p.m. tonight. Ceremonies are currently scheduled to begin at approximately 7:30 p.m.


Please note that these additional security measures are in effect from the time gates open at 5:00 p.m. until the start of the game.

[NYBase]

No fly overs this year? What gives? I live in uptown Manhattan and I usually hear the planes out my window.

[stadiumbuilder]

I just got tickets to Game 1 through work, and I have a sneaky feeling they are Legends Seats!!!!!!! I am sooooo frickin' excited!!!!! Do you think they will allow an umbrella into the stadium, or should I just not bother with it??? :rainy::rainy::rainy::rainy::rainy:
Congratulations Locke!!! Can you make an "I love support columns" banner or something so we can find you when they pan the crowd? Hopefully the weather won't be a major factor tonight, have fun.:gt

[locke40]

locke40 take a pic or two if possible
FYI
http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2009/10/ny_yankees_strongly_encourage.html
NEW YORK -- This warning just came over from the Yankees. It's worth your attention:

Due to special pregame ceremonies before Game 1 of tonight’s World Series at Yankee Stadium, Major League Baseball is implementing additional security measures in select seating locations. The additional security screening will occur every time guests enter their seating location before the start of the game. If guests leave their seats, they will be screened again upon returning to their seating location.

Guests attending tonight’s game should plan accordingly and arrive early at the Stadium to allow plenty of time to enjoy the pregame ceremonies. Gates open at 5:00 p.m. tonight. Ceremonies are currently scheduled to begin at approximately 7:30 p.m.


Please note that these additional security measures are in effect from the time gates open at 5:00 p.m. until the start of the game.

Alright, if they are specifically sending out warnings, I'm definitely not bringing anything more than I should; so no umbrella. Also, I didn't bring my digital camera with me to work; however, I do have my iPhone, which takes decent pictures. I will sure to get a few good shots for us.


Congratulations Locke!!! Can you make an "I love support columns" banner or something so we can find you when they pan the crowd? Hopefully the weather won't be a major factor tonight, have fun.:gt

Thank you, stadiumbuilder!! If I had known I was going, I would have definitely made a sign last night; it's one of my favorite things to do. Unfortunately, I'm at work right now, so I don't think my boss would appreciate me making a poster/banner when I should be doing other things! Like post on baseball-fever!!

[tugger]

locke40 take a pic or two if possible
FYI
http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2009/10/ny_yankees_strongly_encourage.html
NEW YORK -- This warning just came over from the Yankees. It's worth your attention:

Due to special pregame ceremonies before Game 1 of tonight’s World Series at Yankee Stadium, Major League Baseball is implementing additional security measures in select seating locations. The additional security screening will occur every time guests enter their seating location before the start of the game. If guests leave their seats, they will be screened again upon returning to their seating location.

Guests attending tonight’s game should plan accordingly and arrive early at the Stadium to allow plenty of time to enjoy the pregame ceremonies. Gates open at 5:00 p.m. tonight. Ceremonies are currently scheduled to begin at approximately 7:30 p.m.


Please note that these additional security measures are in effect from the time gates open at 5:00 p.m. until the start of the game.
That's just Bush/Cheney trying to scare us again.
No . . . wait . . . nevermind.

[Gary Dunaier]

Planes and NYS are not an apt comparison for that.

Sorry, Captain, but in this case you're wrong. As I quoted from the press release:


Do not bring anything that you would not be allowed to bring on a plane. The rules for what items you can bring into the stadium will be the same as TSA restrictions, which you can find at www.tsa.gov.

It's the Yankees, or Major League Baseball, or whomever wrote the press release, that's making the comparison. They're the ones who are saying, that if you can't bring it on an airplane, you can't bring it into the stadium tonight. Here's (http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm#11) a direct link to the "Prohibited Items For Travels" page on the TSA website; a quick CTRL+F search did not indicate umbrellas were on the list, but I'd suggest anyone seriously interested check the website for themselves just to be completely sure.

Does this "if you can't bring it on a plane you can't bring it here" thing also work in reverse? If you can bring it on a plane, can you also bring it into the stadium - even if it contradicts the Yankees' usual restrictions? For example, the Yankees prohibit laptop computers. But people are always bringing theirs onto planes, so does that mean it's okay to bring them in for tonight's game?

[Gary Dunaier]

Meanwhile, elsewhere in the neighborhood...


Oct 28, 2009 2:27 pm US/Eastern

Yankee Stadium Casts Shadow Over Area Businesses

NEW YORK (CBS) ― Up the street from the new Yankee Stadium, the Concourse Card Shop sells anything a New York Yankees fan could want. T-shirts, backpacks, stuffed monkeys — all with the interlocking "NY" in colors ranging from trademark Yankee navy blue to baby pink.

But the gleaming ballpark, home to a World Series in its opening year, is pushing local businesses into the shadows.

The new stadium sprouted just a block from the House that Ruth Built, which is in the process of being taken down. However that one block, with an accompanying shift in pedestrian traffic, has made a difference, area business owners say. So has the stadium itself, with its greatly expanded food and retail options, as well as the overall economic downturn.

"We had high expectations with the new stadium and everything," said Concourse Card Shop manager Nicolas Castillo. But so far? It's "a lot worse," he said, with business down more than 50 percent.

At Yankee Tavern, where the floor is tiled to look like Yankee pinstripes, business is off about 20 percent, said owner Joe Bastone. The economy in general has played a role, he said, adding he's glad the new stadium is at least in the same neighborhood.

"It's bringing some business, even though there's more competition because of the new stadium," he said.

The $1.5 billion house that George Steinbrenner built offers quite a lot besides a baseball game for those who can afford the tickets. There are three team stores, an art gallery, a collectibles boutique, a Hard Rock Cafe, a NYY Steak, a Bleachers Cafe and Tommy Bahama's Bar. Food options run the gamut from pizza to hot dogs to sushi and other Asian-inspired foods. There's even a museum, telling the Yankees' story.

The new location also means those on foot head in a different direction once they get out of the subway, away from some of the sports bars and souvenir shops they would have passed to get to the old stadium.

"The traffic was diverted in a different direction, we lost a lot of foot traffic," said Stan Martucci, working behind the counter at Stan's Sports Bar, started by his father 30 years ago.

They've done OK though, he said, since they've been around long enough to have a fan base of their own — regulars for whom the bar is as much an institution as the old stadium was. There also are those Yankee fans, Martucci said, who aren't looking for the higher-priced experience that the watering holes inside the stadium offer.

"They're higher-end bars, suit-and-tie bars as we call them," he said. Average fans, he said, "want Stan's, they want our atmosphere, and we deliver."

The new stadium has made a big difference at Stadium Souvenirs, a store that has been across the street from the old stadium for more than 30 years. Business has been down as much as 40 percent, said Qahtan Salahi, whose family owns the store.

He's happy to see the Yankees playing in the Series against the Philadelphia Phillies and hopeful that a baseball season extending into November will give the store a boost. "This year has been down all year long, we're just trying to make up whatever from the World Series," he said.

Business owners are hopeful next season will be better for them.

Bastone from Yankee Tavern pointed out that while his food sales were down 75 percent on opening day, it's now only about 20 percent.

"The novelty's worn off, and people are going to look for a bargain," he said. "I think it's going to adjust over time."

People like Michael Larson, an attorney who works in the area, would seem to prove that point. He was looking for a Yankee cap, and instead of buying it from a store at the stadium, purchased it from a shop down the street.

"I think it's better to buy from the stores than the stadium," he said, citing lower prices. "I buy the food, the beer and popcorn, but the merchandise I get from a local vendor."

The Stadium opened on April 2, 2009.

wcbstv.com (http://wcbstv.com/local/yankee.stadium.financial.2.1276300.html)

[nymdan]

Remember Mets fans, "The enemy of your enemy is your friend." Good luck to the Yankees!

[Captain Cold Nose]

Sorry, Captain, but in this case you're wrong. As I quoted from the press release:


Do not bring anything that you would not be allowed to bring on a plane. The rules for what items you can bring into the stadium will be the same as TSA restrictions, which you can find at www.tsa.gov.

It's the Yankees, or Major League Baseball, or whomever wrote the press release, that's making the comparison. They're the ones who are saying, that if you can't bring it on an airplane, you can't bring it into the stadium tonight. Here's (http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm#11) a direct link to the "Prohibited Items For Travels" page on the TSA website; a quick CTRL+F search did not indicate umbrellas were on the list, but I'd suggest anyone seriously interested check the website for themselves just to be completely sure.

Does this "if you can't bring it on a plane you can't bring it here" thing also work in reverse? If you can bring it on a plane, can you also bring it into the stadium - even if it contradicts the Yankees' usual restrictions? For example, the Yankees prohibit laptop computers. But people are always bringing theirs onto planes, so does that mean it's okay to bring them in for tonight's game?

Hmm. Other stadiums just say it outright, it's an obstruction. Strange.

[ChineseDemocracy]

Meanwhile, elsewhere in the neighborhood...


Oct 28, 2009 2:27 pm US/Eastern

Yankee Stadium Casts Shadow Over Area Businesses

NEW YORK (CBS) ― Up the street from the new Yankee Stadium, the Concourse Card Shop sells anything a New York Yankees fan could want. T-shirts, backpacks, stuffed monkeys — all with the interlocking "NY" in colors ranging from trademark Yankee navy blue to baby pink.

But the gleaming ballpark, home to a World Series in its opening year, is pushing local businesses into the shadows.

The new stadium sprouted just a block from the House that Ruth Built, which is in the process of being taken down. However that one block, with an accompanying shift in pedestrian traffic, has made a difference, area business owners say. So has the stadium itself, with its greatly expanded food and retail options, as well as the overall economic downturn.

"We had high expectations with the new stadium and everything," said Concourse Card Shop manager Nicolas Castillo. But so far? It's "a lot worse," he said, with business down more than 50 percent.

At Yankee Tavern, where the floor is tiled to look like Yankee pinstripes, business is off about 20 percent, said owner Joe Bastone. The economy in general has played a role, he said, adding he's glad the new stadium is at least in the same neighborhood.

"It's bringing some business, even though there's more competition because of the new stadium," he said.

The $1.5 billion house that George Steinbrenner built offers quite a lot besides a baseball game for those who can afford the tickets. There are three team stores, an art gallery, a collectibles boutique, a Hard Rock Cafe, a NYY Steak, a Bleachers Cafe and Tommy Bahama's Bar. Food options run the gamut from pizza to hot dogs to sushi and other Asian-inspired foods. There's even a museum, telling the Yankees' story.

The new location also means those on foot head in a different direction once they get out of the subway, away from some of the sports bars and souvenir shops they would have passed to get to the old stadium.

"The traffic was diverted in a different direction, we lost a lot of foot traffic," said Stan Martucci, working behind the counter at Stan's Sports Bar, started by his father 30 years ago.

They've done OK though, he said, since they've been around long enough to have a fan base of their own — regulars for whom the bar is as much an institution as the old stadium was. There also are those Yankee fans, Martucci said, who aren't looking for the higher-priced experience that the watering holes inside the stadium offer.

"They're higher-end bars, suit-and-tie bars as we call them," he said. Average fans, he said, "want Stan's, they want our atmosphere, and we deliver."

The new stadium has made a big difference at Stadium Souvenirs, a store that has been across the street from the old stadium for more than 30 years. Business has been down as much as 40 percent, said Qahtan Salahi, whose family owns the store.

He's happy to see the Yankees playing in the Series against the Philadelphia Phillies and hopeful that a baseball season extending into November will give the store a boost. "This year has been down all year long, we're just trying to make up whatever from the World Series," he said.

Business owners are hopeful next season will be better for them.

Bastone from Yankee Tavern pointed out that while his food sales were down 75 percent on opening day, it's now only about 20 percent.

"The novelty's worn off, and people are going to look for a bargain," he said. "I think it's going to adjust over time."

People like Michael Larson, an attorney who works in the area, would seem to prove that point. He was looking for a Yankee cap, and instead of buying it from a store at the stadium, purchased it from a shop down the street.

"I think it's better to buy from the stores than the stadium," he said, citing lower prices. "I buy the food, the beer and popcorn, but the merchandise I get from a local vendor."

The Stadium opened on April 2, 2009.

wcbstv.com (http://wcbstv.com/local/yankee.stadium.financial.2.1276300.html)

Add to the fact that you have 7,000 less people going to the stadium on sold out nights.

And with a chunk of affordable seating gone and pricier seats added, the moat people aren't going to eat at Stan's or shop at Salahi's place.

Hopefully Yankee fans go back to supporting the local businesses in the neighborhood.

[Rob R]

One can play devil's advocate and say that these businesses have long been riding on the backs of the Yankees, Yankee Stadium and the Yankee brand. They've had a free ride with little marketing and advertising expenditures. I'm not exactly ready to cry for them because business is down x percent in this economy. Few if any businesses are thriving. We're all feeling the pinch.

They've all done quite well for themselves over the years living off the Yankees.

[threeyoda]

Looking Around the Internet:

1. The I-95 Series (Interstae 95)
2. The Turnpike Series (New Jersey Turnpike)
3. The Liberty Series (Liberty Bell and Statue of Liberty)

[SultanOfWhat]

Here are some screencaps from Game 6 vs Anaheim to get us warmed up for tonight:

[SultanOfWhat]

[mandrake]

Looking Around the Internet:

1. The I-95 Series (Interstate 95)
2. The Turnpike Series (New Jersey Turnpike)
3. The Liberty Series (Liberty Bell and Statue of Liberty)

threeyoda

Quick question : why don't you include one of the Yankee teams from 1949-1953 and make it a 'top 5' greatest.

The only team that won 5 WS in a row isn't on your list???. The '49 team that beat the red Sox, then Brooklyn. The '50 team that swept the Phillies (hey, there's a concept), the '51 team that cooled off the Giants, or the 52-53 teams that again beat great Dodger teams?

[Paul W]

"Yankee Stadium Casts Shadow Over Area Businesses"

so much for the fantasies that these taxpayer-flogged palaces (all of them) helping the neighborhoods around them...

[TinoM24]

well his sig looks to be by statistics only, and those 5 teams werent as great statistically as the ones on his list. at least not in those specific stats.

[RationalNYYfan]

It's a funny kind of month, October. For the really keen... fan it's when you discover that your wife left you in May. - Denis Norden

[SultanOfWhat]

More on dominant Yankee teams below. Check out that last line, and keep in mind that the 1998 Yankees outscored their opponents by exactly 300 runs in a 162-game schedule:

[Strawman]

Just hideous - introductions for the freaking World Series and the moat seats are still half-empty. This is the Trost-Levine era. Some 'Legends'...

My prediction is Phils in 6 - which kills me, a freaking dynasty in the NL East. I'm pulling for New York.

[Anubis2051]

Just hideous - introductions for the freaking World Series and the moat seats are still half-empty. This is the Trost-Levine era. Some 'Legends'...

My prediction is Phils in 6 - which kills me, a freaking dynasty in the NL East. I'm pulling for New York.

You know, most of them are probably in the clubs...

[doctor_gogol]

Anyone else watching the blimp cam on MLB.com? I've seen satellite imagery that looks better.

[NYaDiO]

Yeah most of the "rich folks" are most likely hiding from the mist. And things aren't looking too good for us. Lee just dominated us through 7 so far. =(

[Anubis2051]

Yeah most of the "rich folks" are most likely hiding from the mist. And things aren't looking too good for us. Lee just dominated us through 7 so far. =(

Blue needs to stop squeezing the Yanks. Lee's pitches haven't been that great, he's been getting a lot of calls CC and the Yanks aren't. Although Joe Buck won't say **** about that will he?

[NYBase]

Depressing.

[donut726]

Blue needs to stop squeezing the Yanks. Lee's pitches haven't been that great, he's been getting a lot of calls CC and the Yanks aren't. Although Joe Buck won't say **** about that will he?

no excuses. it was just a bad game

[Jim Vaz]

Wow, Lee was a BEAST!

[Jim Vaz]

It's a funny kind of month, October. For the really keen... fan it's when you discover that your wife left you in May. - Denis Norden







The moment I wanted to burn Shea to the ground, as it was forever desecrated.

[PhillyFan]

Yeah he has been solid for us since we picked him up. The guy is pretty good under pressure really....long way to go yet for us.
Quick question for New York though. Does the new Stadium have standing room only places/tickets? I saw the Phils series back in May there and wasnt sure if they did that.

[NYaDiO]

Yeah he has been solid for us since we picked him up. The guy is pretty good under pressure really....long way to go yet for us.
Quick question for New York though. Does the new Stadium have standing room only places/tickets? I saw the Phils series back in May there and wasnt sure if they did that.

I think there's standing room I'm not to sure about it though. I don't think they have "standing tickets" though. Never heard of it at the new Stadium. But I have heard there's standing room, just not sure if it counts as an actual ticket.

[Gary Dunaier]

They don't sell "standing room only" tickets per se, but you're free to leave your ticketed seat and watch the game from other vantage points in the concourse, or in the Bleachers Cafe atop the Mohegan Sun sports bar in centerfield. (One undisputed advantage the new stadium has over the old is that fans in the bleachers can go to other parts of the ballpark, and vice versa. In the old building bleacher ticketholders were confined to the bleachers, and fans in the grandstand could not enter the bleachers.)

[NYaDiO]

They don't sell "standing room only" tickets per se, but you're free to leave your ticketed seat and watch the game from other vantage points in the concourse, or in the Bleachers Cafe atop the Mohegan Sun sports bar in centerfield. (One undisputed advantage the new stadium has over the old is that fans in the bleachers can go to other parts of the ballpark, and vice versa. In the old building bleacher ticketholders were confined to the bleachers, and fans in the grandstand could not enter the bleachers.)

Thanks for clearing that up Mr. Dunaier. I knew it was along those lines somewhere. Also yeah the standing room tickets never heard of them so I knew there couldn't be a such thing.

[locke40]

Just got back from the game. I went into the stadium with a completely open mind, as I always do. As much as I love the Yankees as a team and the uniforms that they wear, the new stadium is f****** terrible. Every chant that was started disappeared within seconds. Chants and clapping will never be the same as in the old Stadium. When the fans are standing, the place is alive and you don't notice the vast empty seats. But, when everyone is sitting (most of the time), the empty seats are glaringly obvious. It's not only an eye sore, it's a soul sore. The entire time, I could only I imagine what the old stadium would have been like.

I want the Yankees to literally murder the Phillies. But the stadium they play in is absolute horses***. I will NEVER warm up to, or grow to like this stadium. It's too "bright" or something.

[mandrake]

Just got back from the game. I went into the stadium with a completely open mind, as I always do. As much as I love the Yankees as a team and the uniforms that they wear, the new stadium is f****** terrible. Every chant that was started disappeared within seconds. Chants and clapping will never be the same as in the old Stadium. When the fans are standing, the place is alive and you don't notice the vast empty seats. But, when everyone is sitting (most of the time), the empty seats are glaringly obvious. It's not only an eye sore, it's a soul sore. The entire time, I could only I imagine what the old stadium would have been like.

I want the Yankees to literally murder the Phillies. But the stadium they play in is absolute horses***. I will NEVER warn up to, or grow to like this stadium. It's too "bright" or something.

How can this be the "Stadium's fault" ? Maybe it is the type of fan who is paying these prices; but fill the place with 48,000 bleacher creatures and the place will rock.
I hope they were NOT doing the wave at least ! IMHO, people who do the wave should be sent to the Hershey Park dunk tank......oops, YS does not have one of those yet.:laugh

[Maxlugar]

How can this be the "Stadium's fault" ? Maybe it is the type of fan who is paying these prices; but fill the place with 48,000 bleacher creatures and the place will rock.
I hope they were NOT doing the wave at least ! IMHO, people who do the wave should be sent to the Hershey Park dunk tank......oops, YS does not have one of those yet.:laugh

I think acoustics play a big part. You want to start a good chant, the people better hear you. Me and a friend started a "Mooorrriss" chant when Jack Morris pitched his first game at Yankee Stadium (large S) after turning down a fat contract (or at least it was during that first season after he turned it down). Just me and one friend standing way out by the left field foul pole. It was a thing of beauty. Really rattled him. But we could be heard very well. Soon the whole place started doing it. I get the feeling we'd never get that going with the sound that new place has.

[stadiumbuilder]

If you read the post and understand the context, Locke is not blaming the stadium for the loss. We all know why we lost. He is commenting on the change in venues. Build a stadium with distractions galore, make everything very expensive, and you get what we've got now. When these new Yankees field a second division team, and they will sooner or later, they're business plan doesn't work. Maybe what they should do is go across the street, remove the top ten rows of the old place, put a nice roof on it with some decorative frieze, build an upper outer wall with rectangular windows....oh, just kidding.

[locke40]

I want to try to clarify a few points from my little rant from last night (I was a little drunk) :hide:

Exmaple: The fans around my immediate area begin a "Let's Go Yankees" chant. It starts to pick up some steam, it's getting kind of loud, we are in unison, and it sounds great. But then something happens. I believe since the stadium is spread out, and the tightness and closeness is gone, other parts of the stadium can't find our chanting key. I'm not saying those other sections aren't chanting, it's just that we (as a whole) are not in unison, and it's impossible to get "on the same page." This NEVER happened at the RYS because everyone was so damn close to each other, and it was a cinch to get very large portions of the Stadium "on the same page." Is this a product of more corporate or disinterested fans? I seriously don't think so because we had a lot of rowdy fans in our section (my brother and I being two obvious ones :laugh).

In addition, there were instances when sections right next to each other were chanting DIFFERENT things! When Derek Jeter came to bat, some parts of the stadium began chanting "Der-ek Je-ter!" (clap, clap, clap-clap-clap), while other parts were chanting "Let's Go Yan-kees!" (clap, clap, clap-clap-clap). If I was chanting for Jeter, and then I hear people behind me chanting for the Yankees, I would have no choice but to just stop; in my post (rant) above, this is what I meant by the chants just disappearing, and it happened quite often.

One other thing I want to mention. I know a lot has been said of Levine & Trost's Moat, but this was the first time I sat in right field, so I had a direct view of it from a slightly different angle (for myself, anyway). It completely puts the entire field section out of balance. One thing I like to do at ballparks (besides watch the game, of course), is to just scan around the entire stadium, sometimes starting from the field then upwards to the roof, or from left field to right field. At NYS, when my eyes start on the field and scan upwards, my mind cannot understand what is happening on that field level. The moat immediately disrupts my eye, not because of the prices or empty seats, but because there is just too much going on. In the OYS/RYS (and countless other ballparks still in use), when your eyes start on the field and scan upwards, I loved when there were absolutely no breaks or disruptions until you reached the next deck. The moat destroys this for me.

[SteveJRogers]

Exactly what Locke is saying.

While yes Lee was humming in the 9th, but don't tell me that down 6 runs, two on and no one out in a WORLD SERIES game in the old YS that the crowd would have been the same.

Would the outcome had been the same? Perhaps, who knows. But you can't tell me 50,000 screaming fans couldn't have affected both the offense and defense to start more than just a meger 1 run rally in the ninth.

When that run scored I fully expected whomever was left to errupt into a "MYSTIQUE AND AURA" chant. Again, maybe it would have been futile, but its a World Series game, and there should have been an electricity felt through the air, even while watching on TV. It wasn't, it really did seem like watching a "ho-hum" weeknight game in July as opposed to Game 1 of the World Series. On another board I remarked that it sounded like Turner Field out there!

[Mattingly85MVP]

Exactly what Locke is saying.

While yes Lee was humming in the 9th, but don't tell me that down 6 runs, two on and no one out in a WORLD SERIES game in the old YS that the crowd would have been the same.

Would the outcome had been the same? Perhaps, who knows. But you can't tell me 50,000 screaming fans couldn't have affected both the offense and defense to start more than just a meger 1 run rally in the ninth.

When that run scored I fully expected whomever was left to errupt into a "MYSTIQUE AND AURA" chant. Again, maybe it would have been futile, but its a World Series game, and there should have been an electricity felt through the air, even while watching on TV. It wasn't, it really did seem like watching a "ho-hum" weeknight game in July as opposed to Game 1 of the World Series. On another board I remarked that it sounded like Turner Field out there!

I agree, the crowd was the opposite of what it was in any of the ALCS games. Probably because the fair weather fans who paid $400+ for tickets showed their faces for the first time since 03 WS. Bleachers were trying to get the "CC" chant going like in Game 1 ALCS during 2 strike counts and nobody seemed into it.
I expect a better crowd tonight to haze Pedro with some Who's your daddy chants...so it should be much louder

[RationalNYYfan]

With Jay-Z opening the game playing "Empire State of Mind", Pedro on the mound (for the first time since...what, ALCS 2004?), and most of the wealthy non-fans not needing to show their ugly faces again for Game 2...I'd say the place will be rocking tonight.

[SteveJRogers]

I expect a better crowd tonight to haze Pedro with some Who's your daddy chants...so it should be much louder

Okay, but here is the sad question that has to be asked; Will they do it because its the "in" thing to do? Or because its a "real Yankee fan" crowd and all?

An example of an "in" thing to do would be John Rocker after the SI article. That weekend the Braves played at Shea for the first time since he came off suspension, I was in a Westchester County bar watching the game start, some guy was also watching and he asked me if Rocker was in yet. Turned out the guy wasn't a baseball fan, but just wanted to see Rocker and the reaction it got. Hence why he'd think the Braves' closer would be pitching in the first inning!

[yankies4life]

Okay, but here is the sad question that has to be asked; Will they do it because its the "in" thing to do? Or because its a "real Yankee fan" crowd and all?


I agree and honestly, my expectations are low for this one. I was really really hoping that when the sox came in after the david ortiz scandal, that we, yankee stadium would have ripped him and the red sox a new one. With "You Did Steroids" chants along with "1918" and just other stuff. Instead, it was the same usual boo's. Really disappointing.

[Mattingly85MVP]

I agree and honestly, my expectations are low for this one. I was really really hoping that when the sox came in after the david ortiz scandal, that we, yankee stadium would have ripped him and the red sox a new one. With "You Did Steroids" chants along with "1918" and just other stuff. Instead, it was the same usual boo's. Really disappointing.

the stadium crowds in general this year have lost their bite, sad to say

[Mattingly85MVP]

Okay, but here is the sad question that has to be asked; Will they do it because its the "in" thing to do? Or because its a "real Yankee fan" crowd and all?

An example of an "in" thing to do would be John Rocker after the SI article. That weekend the Braves played at Shea for the first time since he came off suspension, I was in a Westchester County bar watching the game start, some guy was also watching and he asked me if Rocker was in yet. Turned out the guy wasn't a baseball fan, but just wanted to see Rocker and the reaction it got. Hence why he'd think the Braves' closer would be pitching in the first inning!

I think with the Yanks backs against the wall and NEEDing to win just so they don't go to philly down 0-2, it should be better and more amped up crowd than last night, anything would be better than last night

[NYaDiO]

I think the expensive tickets and business "fans" sitting in the moat is effecting the Stadium crowd. When I went to go watch Game 3 at Yankee Stadium on the big screen. All the fans sitting in the moat and everywhere else exploded when Jeter hit the homer. If only they would make those seats more affordable for the REAL FANS this Stadium would be much louder.

[LDYanks16]

The moment I wanted to burn Shea to the ground, as it was forever desecrated.

I don't think that's the 2000 clincher at Shea, I'm pretty sure that's the final out of the 1998 Series at Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego, if it makes you feel any better.

[locke40]

The moment I wanted to burn Shea to the ground, as it was forever desecrated.

My God, you have a weird obsession with the Yankees. Don't worry, many "Met" fans do.

Anyway, I've been thinking about it all day today, and I honestly want the Yankees to win the World Series more than anything; however, I want them to win it in Philadelphia. That way, when it's anti-climatic, I can't blame the stadium for it. If it was the old Stadium, you better believe I would want them to win in at home. Nothing about that Stadium was anti-climatic.

[donut726]

some anticlimactic moments in the recent years at the old Stadium:
2003 World Series Game 6
2004 ALCS Game 7

[locke40]

some anticlimactic moments in the recent years at the old Stadium:
2003 World Series Game 6
2004 ALCS Game 7

Those were loses, of course they were anti-climactic. When you see clips of those games, there isn't an empty seat anywhere. The "sea of people" was a sight to behold.

[NYaDiO]

Here's weak attempt at a panorama I did from last night before the game.

[Gylmar]

Here's weak attempt at a panorama I did from last night before the game.



Not weak, that's a beautiful photo! :clapping

[stumpmerrill]

The moment I wanted to burn Shea to the ground, as it was forever desecrated.

I believe that photo os from the '98 WS at San Diego.

[scooterfan]

It's not just the quiet crowds. The stadium itself has absolutely no juice, audio or visual. When I walked into the old stadium I felt a rush of pride that I was sitting inside a grand structure. The same feeling I get when I drive by the Empire State Building or the White House. When I entered the new stadium I felt absolutely nothing....but outrage.

It's time for the apologists to stop making all the excuses about this stadium and accept reality that the franchise has lost a lot with the destruction of the real Yankee Stadium. Obviously this has absolutely nothing to do with the product on the field but the experience for the fans sitting in the stands has diminished on MANY levels and it will never be the same again and this is why the Yankees are having so many problems selling out despite fielding a World Series ballclub.

[The Korean]

^Its time to accept the fact that that is your pure opinion and not a fact. And leave us alone.

[Cool Papa B.]

8 down 3 to go!!!!!!! This is going to be an old fashion grind it out type of series. Now it's on to Philly. Let's take 2 of 3 there.

GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[VAPYankees4]

Hearing the Who's Your Daddy? chant made me smile :D:D:D

[dabigyankeeman]

Hearing the Who's Your Daddy? chant made me smile :D:D:D

Me too. :clapping

[RayNY]

^Its time to accept the fact that that is your pure opinion and not a fact. And leave us alone.

Off topic but I'm just curious and have to ask... why do you have that picture as your avatar? Alex Rodriguez has also admitted to using steroids and he's a Yankee. Roger Clemens also used steroids.

[The Korean]

So? Its not like we bragged about being clean.

[mets16]

So? Its not like we bragged about being clean.

Yeah you kinda did. The whole Yankee image is a clean cut all American type of thing. A baseball "purist's" heaven. A team who celebrates their heritage night in and out. The fact that the Yankee players are behind an iron curtain, cannot grow facial hair, proves the fact the Yankees do brag about being "clean". And its not a matter of bragging, its a matter of being hypocritical. Its like saying, my friend committed murder, so I can wear a shirt saying he did. But I did too, but I'm not telling anyone I didn't.

[RayNY]

So? Its not like we bragged about being clean.

Still... it just seems hypocritical nonetheless. Not trying to insult you or start a fight. Just had to ask.

[dabigyankeeman]

Tex and Godzilla with homers, AJ pitches a great game, hip-hip-Jorge comes thru, and a 2-inning save from Mo, and down goes Who's Your Daddy.

I cant believe Jeter tried to bunt with 2 strikes on him, geez, i guess even the Captain isnt perfect.

A-Rod became A-Zombie in this game, he looked like a zombie at bat, and he looked like a zombie on that ball that got by him that he should have at least knocked down to prevent a run from scoring.

The umps evened things out tonite, actually the same ump at first base. First he screwed the Yankees, then he screwed the Phillies. This has gotta be the worst umpired post-season i have ever seen.

So now its a good thing that they have an off-day to give them time to make the BIG trip from New York to Philadelphia.

So now its a 3 out of 5 series, with Philly having a 3 to 2 home field advantage. Two good teams, these teams are so close in talent, this is exciting to watch.

But the Yankees will win.:clapping

[The Korean]

Yeah you kinda did. The whole Yankee image is a clean cut all American type of thing. A baseball "purist's" heaven. A team who celebrates their heritage night in and out. The fact that the Yankee players are behind an iron curtain, cannot grow facial hair, proves the fact the Yankees do brag about being "clean". And its not a matter of bragging, its a matter of being hypocritical. Its like saying, my friend committed murder, so I can wear a shirt saying he did. But I did too, but I'm not telling anyone I didn't.

Well, we certainly aint now. Its not like we knew who did roids and who didnt back then and we couldnt assume someone used it. When Red Sox fans were bragging it was clear that ther=e was always a chance that a player used steroids.

[PhillyFan]

Good game by you guys tonight! Fun series for sure. I really don't think there is any question these are the two best teams in baseball. It is nice when that happens. Sometimes in sports the finals/championship rounds don't always feature what you can definitley say are the two best.

Can't wait to go to game 5!

[Cool Papa B.]

Looks like the Yankees will be taking the train & not the plane to Philly tonight. I wonder how long the train ride would be non stop from Penn Station to Philly's 30th St. Station.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/e-boland-and-the-bombers-1.812003/commuter-yankees-will-go-through-penn-station-1.1557059

[NYBase]

Looks like the Yankees will be taking the train & not the plane to Philly tonight. I wonder how long the train ride would be non stop from Penn Station to Philly's 30th St. Station.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/e-boland-and-the-bombers-1.812003/commuter-yankees-will-go-through-penn-station-1.1557059

That was my question a few days ago, makes no sense to fly somewhere it takes under 1hr and half to get to. Prob takes longer to fly.

And also, this little nugget of info I read this morning

"World Series tickets cheaper in Big Apple"

http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_16007/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=P5zkW8D8

[Cool Papa B.]

That was my question a few days ago, makes no sense to fly somewhere it takes under 1hr and half to get to. Prob takes longer to fly.

And also, this little nugget of info I read this morning

"World Series tickets cheaper in Big Apple"

http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_16007/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=P5zkW8D8

That's surprising to me. Are those ticket prices based on stub hub sales or direct sales from both teams?

[NYBase]

That's surprising to me. Are those ticket prices based on stub hub sales or direct sales from both teams?

They are basing it off Fansnap.com results, a Google for ticket resellers.


FanSnap.com, an Internet search engine that finds tickets on resale sites, reported there were more than 6,000 tickets available for Game 1 and 4,000-plus for Game 2 on Thursday night, with some sellers wanting more than $2,600 for a nice seat to watch Pedro Martinez's highly anticipated start for the Phillies.
There were more than 15,000 tickets listed for the next three games in Philadelphia, with the highest-priced seats advertised for almost $3,000 for Game 5, according to FanSnap.com.

I was surprised as well...

[locke40]

Fox's Tim McCarver, Joe Buck spend Game 2 of World Series criticizing Yankee Stadium's noise level

Bob Raissman
Friday, October 30th 2009, 4:00 AM

This just in: Yankees suits are very sensitive about their new Stadium. Whether it be criticism of ticket prices or stories about cracks in the concrete ramps, discouraging words about their billion-dollar baby are not taken kindly too.

Wonder how they felt about Fox's Tim McCarver and Joe Buck basically saying the joint had all the audio ambiance of a morgue. The voices were not talking about the building's acoustics. During Game 2 of World Series Thursday night, they were talking about Yankee fans (at least the ones who can still afford a ticket) who checked their mouths at the door.

The Noise Police, er Buck and McCarver, began their investigation in the first inning. Buck said he was "surprised" by the lack of fan response toward Pedro Martinez. "It's a quiet place," Buck said.

With Alex Rodriguez at bat in the second, T-Mac wondered where the noise was. "What a quiet crowd," he said.

Rodriguez struck out, and Hideki Matsui singled to right. With Robinson Cano at the plate, Buck, again, brought up the Martinez thing.

Buck said chants of "Who's your daddy?" began when Martinez was warming up. "And that chant started to get some traction with people inside the Stadium," Buck said. "Then about 30 seconds into it, when it began to pick up steam, the speakers started blaring Jay-Z music and drowned the chants out."

Interesting. Once the crowd got revved up, the Stadium crew pushed the mute button. In the third, with Ryan Howard batting and Chase Utley on first, the crowd noise began coming through.

"And at 9:04 the crowd showed up," Buck said sarcastically.

The noise news continued throughout the game. The Fox voices talked about the "atmosphere in the Stadium" and how the organist was trying to get the crowd going. And when the Yankees pulled ahead in the sixth, the joint got noisy, indicating the front-running nature of those in attendance.

That fact was magnified when Mariano Rivera appeared in the eighth. By then, the crowd was really into it. Still, this was not the high-decibel noise you would normally hear in, well, Citizens Bank Park in Philly.

Anyway, history shows Buck's and McCarver's interest in noise was was not a commentary on the new Stadium. It was an overall critique on the passion, or lack thereof, of Yankee fans. The Fox mouths put the exact same rap down during Game2 of the 2000 Mets-Yankees World Series.

Their comments did not sit well with Brian Cashman.

Nine years later, they were at it again. Loud and clear.

MOUTH IS RUNNING: McCarver wanted Charlie Manuel to start the runners in the eighth (two on, one out and a 3-2 count on Utley). The Phillies' manager didn't, and Utley hit into a 4-6-3 DP. Would've bowed in T-Mac's direction, but he couldn't shut up, continuing to explain his point over and over again to such an extent that he had us confused....McCarver got loud in the seventh when Derek Jeter struck out on an attempted bunt. "Not often do you sit in the booth and say 'That was a bad play by Derek Jeter,'" McCarver said. "And that was a bad play by Derek Jeter." Nothing confusing about that.

LIMITED 'ACCESS': There were some very angry TV sports reporters, most of whom have covered the Yankees all season long, inside the Stadium Thursday night. Multiple moles said these reporters were rushed through their interviews with Yankee players to accommodate "Access Hollywood" "reporter" Maria Menounos.

"Guess the Yankees wanted to reach a different audience," one spy said. "They basically shafted the people who had been covering them all year to give her better access."

Before Menounos interviews Mariano Rivera, one stoolie overheard her ask, "Is he a pitcher?"

YES, INDEED: Fox's pregame show went all Pedro. No surprise there. Those looking for a broader take (especially on Joe Girardi's lineup change) were better served by the Yankees Entertainment & Sports Network. Late in YES' pregame, Paul O'Neill wondered if Girardi calling on Jerry Hairston Jr. to replace the slumping Nick Swisher was "a panic move." ... Still cannot figure out the purpose of that FoxTrax. Do those "speed" numbers mean anything to anyone out there? Or is this just another gimmick? .. . When does the Valley of the Stupid start turning on A-Rod? And when do those 'what's the matter with Alex' stories start?...In the third, Buck informed viewers that Terry Bradshaw's upcoming interview with Brett Favre on "NFL Sunday" would "not be a yuckfest." Slept much better last night after hearing that....Thursday afternoon, thinking for all of us, Mike (Sports Pope) Francesa said: "I don't think anyone thinks Pedro is going to have a big performance." Not even Pedro?

New York Daily News Article (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2009/10/30/2009-10-30_fox.html)

[Cool Papa B.]

Actually Buck & McCarver spent like 3/4 of the game kissing up to Pedro. They couldn't stop talking about the guy. I actually thought they were going to say that Pedro is the most interesting man alive; he lives vicariously through himself; they hang on his every word....even the prepositions; he speaks French....in Russian; he had an awkward moment just to see what it feels like; he doesn't drink beer but when he does he drinks dos equis.... It was just disgusting the way they were kissing up to Pedro ALL NIGHT.

[Rob R]

I think that most of us are forgetting that even RYS got a bad rap this time of year; that it was more quiet than during big regular season or Sox games because of the corporate suits taking over and the "real" fan being left out. This World Series is no different.

What we DO remember (how could we forget) are the Tino and Brosius homers and clinchers - those dramatic, winning spots where RYS rocked and rolled like no other stadium. We've yet to have that World Series moment at NYS, so it's tough to compare. I do know that NYS has its work cut out for it if it's to equal that sound, because no stadium ever has.

locke, what McCarver is saying about the crowd noise is correct - it's the lack of enthusiasm from those paying $1,000 and up for seats rather than the stadium itself. What Raismann wrote is correct; McCarver said the same thing about the quietness of RYS during the 2000 World Series. If a stadium should have been rocking every pitch it was that year, when we played the Mets. But it wasn't. As a matter of fact both RYS and Shea were mysteriously and relatively quiet given the impact and meaning of the first Subway Series between the two. Was it out of nervousness and anticipation or the corporate suits. Or both? All I know is that I was at both game 2 at RYS and game 5 at Shea and both times it seemed like they were playing a regular season game.

I think that most of us want to think that those loud, raucous, rocking times at RYS happened pitch after pitch, inning after inning, that every moment was an Aaron Boone, Leyritz , Tino or Reggie moment. It did not, especially in the World Series.

Are we forgetting those years of complaints that RYS was not the same in the World Series, that it was less quiet because the real fans were being shut out?? So far, NYS is just mimicking that.

[Trickyhop]

Ugh. It's sickening to have to hear Yankee fans talk about 'Tino moments'. Why did we ever trade that s.o.b.?

[dstoffa]

I think that most of us are forgetting that even RYS got a bad rap this time of year; that it was more quiet than during big regular season or Sox games because of the corporate suits taking over and the "real" fan being left out. This World Series is no different.

What we DO remember (how could we forget) are the Tino and Brosius homers and clinchers - those dramatic, winning spots where RYS rocked and rolled like no other stadium. We've yet to have that World Series moment at NYS, so it's tough to compare. I do know that NYS has its work cut out for it if it's to equal that sound, because no stadium ever has.


Apples and oranges are being compared here. You need to roll back the clock to 1994 to understand what transpired over the past 15 years.

1. Strike in 1994. Public interest declines in baseball. Even with a first place at the start of the strike, and a very memorable 1995 Wild Card berth, the Yankees at the time were not a draw... even through the 1996 season. Because there were so few FSTs and Partial Plan Holders, the Yankees had 40,000 individual tickets to EACH World Series game in 1996. I was able to get on line up on River Av, at 5:30 pm, and got tickets to Game 6 of the 1996 World Series. I must have waited on line until midnight or so, but I got them. Tickets had gone on sale that morning at 9am. There were still tickets for sale the NEXT DAY!!! Unheard of.

2. 1996-1998. The Yankees just start kicking some. That team was better then the sum of it parts. Everyone got caught up in it. People realized that, with a 13-game plan, you could be guaranteed playoff / WS tickets, and wouldn't have to wait on line all night in Macomb Dam's Park. People began to buy plans.

3. 1999. The Yankees are a machine. So much so, that the Yankees sold WAY too many partial plans, and actually had to locate partial plan holders (who were promised tier reserved seating for the playoffs) to the bleachers. New rules were put in place that partial plan holders whose seniority was after a certain date no longer were guaranteed playoff tickets. The only way to get guaranteed tickets was to buy a bigger plan.

4. New Stadium -- new rules. Only 81 and 41 game plan holders get guaranteed playoff tickets. The majority of these holders probably aren't the blue-collar fans that were able to by the 13-game plans back in the 90's. The blue collar rooters have been displaced by nameless corporations. The playoff tickets go to them, not Joe Fan.


The business model has changed. This reflects the stadium body (attendance). People there aren't there to see a game as much as they are to enjoy their comfy seats, club service, and sushi. You get more of a golf crowd... clap clap clap clap...

Welcome to modern professional sports.

[locke40]

I got this from the LoHud Yankees Blog live update of the game last night:


UPDATE, 8:08 p.m.: Fans here have to get on the same page. That was a very, very weak effort at the first “Who’s your daddy?” chant.

Being at Game 1 of the WS, I can tell you that it is nearly impossible to get on the same page at the NYS. Chanting and clapping in unison is all but destroyed at this stadium. I hate it.

[Ralf]

The noise level is directly related to the stadium and how its constructed. The old stadium concourses at Shea and OYS were closed off with concrete so the sound reverberated. The new ones have open concourses. Its never going to be like it was.

[NYBase]

The mute button was Cliff Lee, not anything else.... since it was pretty loud for the ALCS.

[Rob R]

Ugh. It's sickening to have to hear Yankee fans talk about 'Tino moments'. Why did we ever trade that s.o.b.?

I'll always thanks the M's for that trade. Makes up for you guys getting Buhner! :laugh

It's amazing how Tino still captures the hearts of all Yankee fans. He himself, bleeds pinstripes. I'll never forget in 2004 when the Tino played for the Rays and they were playing the Sox during the pennant race, Tino actually said he wanted to beat them for the Yanks. Imagine that! You can't get more Yankee than that. I believe the Sox addressed his comments with the commissioner, but nothing was done about it.

Tino will be forever loved and he will forever love NY and the Yanks. Thanks, M's! :)

[Mastermind]

The noise level is directly related to the stadium and how its constructed. The old stadium concourses at Shea and OYS were closed off with concrete so the sound reverberated. The new ones have open concourses. Its never going to be like it was.


even in the glory days of the back to back 2001 homer nights -before the homers it was tense and very little noise- its hard to get rocking when you are behind every inning and generating very little offense
against philly we hadnt scored an earned run for 12 innings- it was painful to watch. After the Tex homer and Werth pickoff a buzz began that grew until the end

[Rob R]

We can't make definitive statements based on one game. I've posted tens of links to articles by respected writers stating that NYS was loud and rocked like the old stadium and literally shook as well.

locke's experience was very valid and it sucks that real fans are being shut out. It sucks bigtime.

But to others who are defining NYS by one or two WS games, some, who never stepped foot in it, and when RYS experienced the same, all I have to say is I've posted tons of links to articles by sports writers, broadcasters and opposing players and managers, during the division clincher, ALDS and ALCS, saying NYS is just as loud and that the "aura" of Yankee Stadium remains at the new place.

Again, not every moment at RYS was a Tino, Boone or Brosius moment. I've been to plenty of post season games there when it was quiet as a church mice when we were losing or until something exciting happened. Not every moment at RYS was an exciting sound bite or clip, those moments etched in our minds. There were plenty of down times too.

[Rob R]

Apples and oranges are being compared here. You need to roll back the clock to 1994 to understand what transpired over the past 15 years.

1. Strike in 1994. Public interest declines in baseball. Even with a first place at the start of the strike, and a very memorable 1995 Wild Card berth, the Yankees at the time were not a draw... even through the 1996 season. Because there were so few FSTs and Partial Plan Holders, the Yankees had 40,000 individual tickets to EACH World Series game in 1996. I was able to get on line up on River Av, at 5:30 pm, and got tickets to Game 6 of the 1996 World Series. I must have waited on line until midnight or so, but I got them. Tickets had gone on sale that morning at 9am. There were still tickets for sale the NEXT DAY!!! Unheard of.

2. 1996-1998. The Yankees just start kicking some. That team was better then the sum of it parts. Everyone got caught up in it. People realized that, with a 13-game plan, you could be guaranteed playoff / WS tickets, and wouldn't have to wait on line all night in Macomb Dam's Park. People began to buy plans.

3. 1999. The Yankees are a machine. So much so, that the Yankees sold WAY too many partial plans, and actually had to locate partial plan holders (who were promised tier reserved seating for the playoffs) to the bleachers. New rules were put in place that partial plan holders whose seniority was after a certain date no longer were guaranteed playoff tickets. The only way to get guaranteed tickets was to buy a bigger plan.

4. New Stadium -- new rules. Only 81 and 41 game plan holders get guaranteed playoff tickets. The majority of these holders probably aren't the blue-collar fans that were able to by the 13-game plans back in the 90's. The blue collar rooters have been displaced by nameless corporations. The playoff tickets go to them, not Joe Fan.


The business model has changed. This reflects the stadium body (attendance). People there aren't there to see a game as much as they are to enjoy their comfy seats, club service, and sushi. You get more of a golf crowd... clap clap clap clap...

Welcome to modern professional sports.

This post is an excellent read. Essentially, it all boils down to the real, vociferous fan being shut out, especially for these games. From 1999 things worsened as you mention, thus McCarver's comment and my experience that RYS was quiet during the 2000 World Series holds true. I'm not sure why Shea relativel quiet as well, or what factors caused this. My guess is that the real fans got shut out of those games too.

Luckily a family member was able to squeeze a couple of tix for games at both RYS and Shea.

[RationalNYYfan]

There will never be anything like the noise level at RYS - not as long as fans are segregated in favor of sightlines as it is these days. The noise level here may never be as loud, but the fans can still be as intense.

Joe Buck and Tim McCarver could not have given a more anti-Yankee commentary last night, it was horrible. And what the heck is Joe Buck's problem? He simply cannot call a baseball game with any passion. It's just "Teixeria. Tie Game." Is that the best he can do? Try telling the audience what is happening, like the rest of the sports announcing world. I hate that pompous SOB. He will never be like his father.

[Rob R]

even in the glory days of the back to back 2001 homer nights -before the homers it was tense and very little noise- its hard to get rocking when you are behind every inning and generating very little offense
against philly we hadnt scored an earned run for 12 innings- it was painful to watch. After the Tex homer and Werth pickoff a buzz began that grew until the end


You are so right. I think people are somehow forgetting how quiet RYS was during the Worls Series when we were either losing or a blow out. Then you factor in things like the corporate suits and fans just anxiously awaiting for something good to happen. It does get tense this time of year, regardless of the game being played at RYS or NYS and that contributes to a quiet, nervous murmuring sound. RYS wasn't rocking for all 9 during the World Series. Never did.

[Rob R]

There will never be anything like the noise level at RYS - not as long as fans are segregated in favor of sightlines as it is these days. The noise level here may never be as loud, but the fans can still be as intense.

Joe Buck and Tim McCarver could not have given a more anti-Yankee commentary last night, it was horrible. And what the heck is Joe Buck's problem? He simply cannot call a baseball game with any passion. It's just "Teixeria. Tie Game." Is that the best he can do? Try telling the audience what is happening, like the rest of the sports announcing world. I hate that pompous SOB. He will never be like his father.

McCarver is way past his prime, and even in his prime he was just an incessant babbler, like a washerwoman. Buck has an ego bigger than his forehead, if that's at all possible, and it gets in the way of his broadcasting a game objectively. I think McCarver still carries sour grapes for being canned by the Yanks.

[The Korean]

I wish Harry Kalas was still alive (RIP Harry, even as a Yankee fan) so he can teach Buck on how to actually work a game. Buck is awful in any sports.

[Rob R]

How cool is this photo? Andy Pettitte's sons (2nd from l and right) and their cousins getting into the spirit of things (Who's your daddy?) like average fans, instead of their parents forcing them to be above it!

[YankeeFanBx]

Could someone post the hd Empire state of mind on youtube from last nights game, please.

[NYaDiO]

Could someone post the hd Empire state of mind on youtube from last nights game, please.

This is the only one I could find: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiryjGi6wZQ

[Rob R]

This is the only one I could find: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiryjGi6wZQ

Awesome. Thanks!

[NYBase]

I wish Harry Kalas was still alive (RIP Harry, even as a Yankee fan) so he can teach Buck on how to actually work a game. Buck is awful in any sports.

I don't get the appeal for Buck or the other one. Don't get it, most fans from most teams think they are rooting against them.

[YankeeFanBx]

This is the only one I could find: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiryjGi6wZQ

Thanks, I missed it on TV, it's GREAT!! :clapping:clapping:clapping:clapping

[RationalNYYfan]

I thought that was a cool thing to do last night, even though Jay Z didn't perform it too well. I'd like to see something like that in the World Series more often, maybe Game 1 can become the game that is known for musical performances? I would even suggest doing a performance during the 7th inning stretch, but games are long enough.

[dchich]

How cool is this photo? Andy Pettitte's sons (2nd from l and right) and their cousins getting into the spirit of things (Who's your daddy?) like average fans, instead of their parents forcing them to be above it!


THAT IS AWESOME!!!

I saw those guys walking around the stadium and i got a good chuckle about it... How do you know they were Andy's family?

[The Korean]

I thought that was a cool thing to do last night, even though Jay Z didn't perform it too well. I'd like to see something like that in the World Series more often, maybe Game 1 can become the game that is known for musical performances? I would even suggest doing a performance during the 7th inning stretch, but games are long enough.

Maybe in Philly, but we need to stick to God Bless America.

[Rob R]

THAT IS AWESOME!!!

I saw those guys walking around the stadium and i got a good chuckle about it... How do you know they were Andy's family?

It was in the NY Daily News....

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/columnists/raissman/index.html

[RayNY]

I thought that was a cool thing to do last night, even though Jay Z didn't perform it too well.

Rap rarely sounds good performed live in a large open stadium, with all the echo and reverb it just sounds like someone talking and mumbling a bunch of gibberish out loud. I was actually surprised that the Yankees even had a rapper perform... I would think they wanted something with a bit more class, like Tony Bennett or Sting or someone like that.

[dstoffa]

This post is an excellent read. Essentially, it all boils down to the real, vociferous fan being shut out, especially for these games. From 1999 things worsened as you mention, thus McCarver's comment and my experience that RYS was quiet during the 2000 World Series holds true.

Thank you.

Well, there is one thing I mentioned...well, two. First off is the cost of the playoff games. In 1996, a Tier Reserved Seat at Yankee Stadium for the World Series was only $45.00. It was cash and carry. No mailing fees, no handling fees. Just a price. Sometime after this, and I'd have to look at my phantom 1998 Mets Playoff tickets, All Hail the Great Bud Seilig decided that MLB's Championship Games (aka - The World Series) should be priced similar to the championship games for the NFL, NBA, and NHL. Once he made this decree, the cost of a ticket to a playoff game pretty much doubled. Once you stop considered post-season ticket availability, the next topic for discussion is post-season ticket COST. It's become very expensive to attend playoff games. Hence the lack of Joe Fan at the game. It has gotten to the point where the cost of a 12-15 game plan for the season is less than a strip of playoff tickets (and that strip may only include one game per round).

The second thing I wanted to mention was that long-a__ line I waited on back in 1996. Two guys in front of me had driven down from Kingston or something. They were mentioning that the last time they had WS tix was for the Yanks back in '81. When they bought them back in 1981, they passed up on Game 6 tickets in a poor location for much better seats for Game 7. They had asked me what I would do. I told them, if Game 6 is available, I'm gonna take it, even if the seats were crappy. They had mentioned they were disappointed that they didn't get to see a game in '81, but that they didn't want crap seats. I then replied that there aren't any crap seats for a World Series game... they disagreed.

When they got to the ATW in front of me, they politely asked what was left for Game 6. All they had was TR, fair territory. They decided to pass on Game 6 for TR single digit section for Game 7. I went for the TR in fair territory, Row R.... Some people never learn.

Cheers!
-Doug

[dchich]

Rap rarely sounds good performed live in a large open stadium, with all the echo and reverb it just sounds like someone talking and mumbling a bunch of gibberish out loud. I was actually surprised that the Yankees even had a rapper perform... I would think they wanted something with a bit more class, like Tony Bennett or Sting or someone like that.

I'm not a big Rap/Hip Hop fan, so i really had no interest in seeing Jay-z... Having said that, I have no problem with a rap or hip hop artist performing before the WS, as long as they aren't spouting hateful or gang/crime related lyrics.

i also don't like the "I made the Yankee hat more famous than a Yankee can" Line

Seriously...

[Rob R]

Rap rarely sounds good performed live in a large open stadium, with all the echo and reverb it just sounds like someone talking and mumbling a bunch of gibberish out loud. I was actually surprised that the Yankees even had a rapper perform... I would think they wanted something with a bit more class, like Tony Bennett or Sting or someone like that.


I think it's more a sign of the times. Whether you like rap or not, Jay Z is pretty much king. And the fact that he's a visible, diehard Yankee fan doesn't hurt. Same thing with Springsteen. When he was at the height of his popularity, his being at a Yankee game was a big event, even though he went to plenty. Now that times have changed and he's shown at a Yankee game it's not as big a deal.

I just hope that the day doesn't come when Miley Cyrus at a Yankee game game attracts this much attention.

And I agree, most rap in such an open venue like a stadium usually just sounds like noise. Somehow, Jay-Z and Alicia Keys didn't sound too bad last night, probably because of the melody she carries throughout the song.

[YankeeFanBx]

How cool is this photo? Andy Pettitte's sons (2nd from l and right) and their cousins getting into the spirit of things (Who's your daddy?) like average fans, instead of their parents forcing them to be above it!


Gotta love Andy's family!
Those kids are real Yankee fans!!

[Yankeefan3783]

Some pictures I took from Game 1:

[Yankeefan3783]

[Gary Dunaier]

I was walking around the Yankee Stadium neighborhood during the game last night, and as far as hearing noise from the outside... on 162nd Street between Anderson Avenue and Ogden Avenue - this is the area in back of the apartments on Jerome Avenue, heading closer to the Harlem River - it was quiet. You wouldn't think there was a ballgame, let alone a World Series game, nearby. This was early on in the game, though, when the Phillies had the lead.

Later on - I was down by Jerome Avenue, near the Major Deegan Expressway and heading up to 161st Street - and when there were loud cheers I definitely was able to hear them. Maybe I was closer to the stadium, but the "Who's Your Daddy" chants came through loud and clear to me (although I didn't note where I was when I heard them). There were definitely moments when the place sounded loud to me.

The strangest thing was that heading up 161st between Gerard Avenue and Walton Avenue, a couple of times I heard cheers, roars, that sort of thing - but they sounded like they were coming from the old stadium, not the new one!

Can ghosts make noise? :ooo:

Anyway, that's my (literal) outsider's perspective on the noise during Game 2 of the World Series.

[Bleeding Pinstripes]

it sucks that the tickets are so expensive. the stadium was so quiet you can hear a pin drop. dosent stinebrener understand that the home field advantage isent just whose up in what inning. its hearing the home town fans cherring to watch their team win. all thoes rich yuppies and celebs dont no how to cheer in the bronx. there wasent even an ******* chant when tex got drilled. and i dont belive i heard a roll call in game one or 2

[Rob R]

I will be inside of New Yankee Stadium sometime between July 25th,2009 through August 1st,2009.

I wonder if he ever made it.

[dstoffa]

it sucks that the tickets are so expensive. the stadium was so quiet you can hear a pin drop. dosent stinebrener understand that the home field advantage isent just whose up in what inning. its hearing the home town fans cherring to watch their team win. all thoes rich yuppies and celebs dont no how to cheer in the bronx. there wasent even an ******* chant when tex got drilled. and i dont belive i heard a roll call in game one or 2

OK Bleeding Pinstripes... Here's a question for you.... Would you rather:

1. Have lower ticket prices so that the average Joe can go to a game? However, your owner may have to pass on talent in order to keep those prices down.

or

2. Have an unlimited revenue stream so that your owner can put the BEST product on the field for you to root for (from your TV, bar, maybe the bleachers), salary be damned?

Remember, you can only have one, not both.... What would you choose?

Those yuppie scums on their blackberries and those celebrities are paying the salaries of the players on the team you are rooting for....


Cheers!
-Doug

[locke40]

I wonder if he ever made it.

Godspeed, Manhattan. We hardly knew ye.

[locke40]

it sucks that the tickets are so expensive. the stadium was so quiet you can hear a pin drop. dosent stinebrener understand that the home field advantage isent just whose up in what inning. its hearing the home town fans cherring to watch their team win. all thoes rich yuppies and celebs dont no how to cheer in the bronx. there wasent even an ******* chant when tex got drilled. and i dont belive i heard a roll call in game one or 2

Here's something that I've been thinking about. If the 2008 Homerun Derby was played in the New Yankee Stadium, do you think the "Ham-il-ton! Ham-il-ton! Ham-il-ton!" chants would ever had existed? I was at that Homerun Derby, and the electricity was like nothing I've ever felt. I can honestly say, without any sliver of a doubt, that if that Homerun Derby happened in the current Yankee Stadium, it would have been filed away as any other derby, and not the historical and meaningful experience it is now remembered as. And the structure in which the fans were presented (RYS) had everything to do with it. The NYS just doesn't present the fans as well.

[locke40]

As I mentioned earlier, I follow the LoHud Yankees Blog on Twitter. I just saw the below little gem from last night's game. If anyone had read my little rant after Game 1, this pretty much sums up exactly what I was referring to. Chanting just cannot catch on in this stadium. It almost certainly has to do with not being tight and close to each other anymore. This will be very hard to fix in future renovations, if at all.



And I know Rob will come back and say that the stadium does get loud. Yes, I read all the articles that say it gets loud and it does shake. Anytime you have 45,000-50,000 people in one setting, it will get loud. But the difference is not decibel level, but rather the quality of sound. No one seems to be on the same page (synchronized) in the NYS. Everyone is doing their own thing.

[Cool Papa B.]

Here's something that I've been thinking about. If the 2008 Homerun Derby was played in the New Yankee Stadium, do you think the "Ham-il-ton! Ham-il-ton! Ham-il-ton!" chants would ever had existed? I was at that Homerun Derby, and the electricity was like nothing I've ever felt. I can honestly say, without any sliver of a doubt, that if that Homerun Derby happened in the current Yankee Stadium, it would have been filed away as any other derby, and not the historical and meaningful experience it is now remembered as. And the structure in which the fans were presented (RYS) had everything to do with it. The NYS just doesn't present the fans as well.

I know that the crowd was for the most part quiet in the first 2 games of the World Series. I'm as dissapointed as any other yankee fan. And I'm even more dissapointed that Buck & McCarver blew that out of proportion. But I'm not about to blame it on the Stadium. We as Yankee fans have watched a lot of games this season and the fact is....THE NEW PLACE CAN GET DOWN RIGHT LOUD. AND AS LOUD AS RYS. I'm not about to let 2 games make me forget about that series against Boston in early August or the many other walk off games this year. If there were more home runs (or just more offense in general) in games 1 & 2 then the stadium would have been jumping & electric like that home run derby last summer. And I've seen RYS in the post season be really quiet. ex. games 1 & 2 in the 96' series and game 2 in the 98'series.

[Cool Papa B.]

As I mentioned earlier, I follow the LoHud Yankees Blog on Twitter. I just saw the below little gem from last night's game. If anyone had read my little rant after Game 1, this pretty much sums up exactly what I was referring to. Chanting just cannot catch on in this stadium. It almost certainly has to do with not being tight and close to each other anymore. This will be very hard to fix in future renovations, if at all.



And I know Rob will come back and say that the stadium does get loud. Yes, I read all the articles that say it gets loud and it does shake. Anytime you have 45,000-50,000 people in one setting, it will get loud. But the difference is not decibel level, but rather the quality of sound. No one seems to be on the same page (synchronized) in the NYS. Everyone is doing their own thing.

I understand your point, but I disagree. In game 1 of the ALCS this year when the crowd was chanting "CC....CC....CC" the crowd was united and and was electric. To be honest I think that "who's your daddy" chant is played out & old. That's the reason IMO why the chanting didn't catch on. I mean that chant started in 04' and the Yankees lost that year. New chants please.

[locke40]

Everything in this article has been discussed on baseball-fever many times over. It's just a little disheartening seeing all of it in one place, and on a very popular blog.

Where Your Stadium Sucks: Yankee Stadium (http://deadspin.com/5393033/why-your-stadium-sucks-yankee-stadium)

[Rob R]

Everything in this article has been discussed on baseball-fever many times over. It's just a little disheartening seeing all of it in one place, and on a very popular blog.

Where Your Stadium Sucks: Yankee Stadium (http://deadspin.com/5393033/why-your-stadium-sucks-yankee-stadium)



locke, I'm not disagreeing with your assessment about NYS. It was disturbingly quiet. My point was, that I've been to World Series games at RYS where it was disturbingly quiet too, including 2000 against the Mets! McCarver and Buck agree on that one too.

A friend went to game 2 and told me something interesting. He said that whenever he and others stood to clap and cheer AJ when he had two strikes on the batter (as Yankee crowds always do in an important game), people were screaming, "Down in the front!"

Here's the kicker - he was sitting in the grandstand. What this tells me is that MOST of the "real" fans were priced out of the entire stadium, replaced by those who are fair-weathered fans with money to spare. It's a crying shame. But we can also blame the greedy season ticket holder mofos looking to make a killing on stubhub and other venues, instead of cheering their team on. I don't call them fans; they're money grubbers. Greed is all around, from team owners down to the fans - it spreads like a disease. Very sad.

[Rob R]

Everything in this article has been discussed on baseball-fever many times over. It's just a little disheartening seeing all of it in one place, and on a very popular blog.

Where Your Stadium Sucks: Yankee Stadium (http://deadspin.com/5393033/why-your-stadium-sucks-yankee-stadium)

Regarding the Deadspin article, all I have to see is that Neil deMause, a Brooklyn-born, rabid Mets fan/notorious Yankee hater is involved. He makes Mike Lupica and Peter Gammons look like Bleacher Creatures in comparison. He trashes the Yanks any chance he gets, either NYS or RYS. He also wrote "Field of Schemes : How the Great Stadium Swindle Turns Public Money into Private Profit" trashing owners making profits on any new stadium and politicizing it, so we know where he stands on these counts before reading his less than objective drivel. As for Lukas Herbert, he's very active in the "Save Our Parks" drive that was against the idea of NYS before it was even built. He was a very vocal opponent of even the idea of NYS, so what's he going to say now, that he loves it? No surprise there. As a matter of fact, a majority of that article has more to do with the politics and "public financing" of NYS than the stadium itself. Not that there isn't any validity to what the authors are saying and it's certainly open for debate, but it's no different than IPO's tiring, repetitive arguments over something that's already done and out of his control. Sometimes people just like to hear themselves talk, or try to recruit others into their misery. And, more importantly, Neil deMause is profiting very nicely from his book and promoting it (whoring) every chance he gets. Pretty ironic. Go figure.

I'm not saying that any of that article isn't valid, just that we should understand the backgrounds of those involved in that article whom are expressing their "opinions" as tainted and self-promoting as they might be.

Again, locke, I'm not disputing anything you're saying or experiencing.

[Rob R]

I hate to say this, but as fans, maybe it's best if the Yankees start sucking so badly that they play to an empty stadium. Maybe then, their front office will beg fans to attend by dropping ticket and concession prices and start showing some gratitude; replace Lobel's pretentious window with an affordable *real NY* pizza stand. If we're smart, have restraint, and stick to our convictions, we should just say, "No thanks."

It won't matter if we lose the team, because I guarantee you that the next MMORPG, Dragon Age, RPG-playing generation, who've been shut out of games due to exorbitant pricies and games that end at 1 AM, won't be interested in baseball anyway. This applies to all MLB teams.

[Gary Dunaier]

I didn't go to the game Thursday night, but who needs tickets when you've got a camera? Some pictures U might like...


Former Yankees signing outside Stan's Sports World, across the street from the old stadium...


(Photo taken October 29, 2009. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/4060087440/in/set-72157622574967429).)


Fans hoping other fans will sell them their extras...


(Photo taken October 29, 2009. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/4060090878/in/set-72157622574967429).)


Fans waiting outside the ticket office hoping the Yankees will put some tickets on sale... good luck... at the time I took this shot, Game 2 had just started... as a matter of fact, take a closer look at the flat-screen TV inside... that's the very first pitch of the game...


(Photo taken October 29, 2009. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/4060098472/in/set-72157622574967429).)


Fans on Jerome Avenue watching the game on one of the flat-screen TVs in the stadium's Food Court...


(Photo taken October 29, 2009. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: her (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/4059355811/in/set-72157622574967429).)


At least one of the residents of 1001 Jerome Avenue is rooting for their new neighbors...


(Photo taken October 29, 2009. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/4059357509/in/set-72157622574967429).)


View from 162nd Street and Woodycrest Avenue, looking towards Yankee Stadium... that's Grandstand section 431A dead ahead (and if you want to know what the view of the neighborhood looks like from there, click here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/3689565948/))...


(Photo taken October 29, 2009. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/4059370279/in/set-72157622574967429).)


Yankee Stadium as seen from Jerome Avenue at the Major Deegan Expressway... this vantage point may not be available in a few years, in the foreground they're building the 161st Street Garage, which may or may not block the view of the stadium from this spot...


(Photo taken October 29, 2009. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/4060116588/in/set-72157622574967429).)


Reaction of fans outside Gate 6 watching the game, or trying to, on the Great Hall's big screen (those arches get in the way), at the moment the Yankees won Game 2...


(Photo taken October 29, 2009. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/4060135898/in/set-72157622574967429).)


Pity the poor residents of 70 East 162nd Street... not only do they lose their view of the park, but it's almost midnight (at the time this photo was taken, that is), and they still have to put up with this guy banging his bongos outside Family Dollar...


(Photo taken October 29, 2009. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/4060139724/in/set-72157622574967429).)


Finally, the giant World Series logo on the side of the big merchandise stand in front of NYY Steak/Hard Rock proved to be an attractive backdrop for photo ops...


(Photo taken October 29, 2009. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/4059397051/in/set-72157622574967429).)

(Yes, they apparently are a couple...)


The rest of my photos from Thursday night are right here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/sets/72157622574967429/).

[RationalNYYfan]

Godspeed, Manhattan. We hardly knew ye.

Who is Manhattan, what's the story - I'm not sure I was around here when he posted...?

[mets16]

Who is Manhattan, what's the story - I'm not sure I was around here when he posted...?

I will not go to New Yankees Stadium (2009) For the 105th Worlds Series Baseball games. Thank you for reminding me about New Yankees Stadium.

[Rob R]

I will not go to New Yankees Stadium (2009) For the 105th Worlds Series Baseball games. Thank you for reminding me about New Yankees Stadium.

:rofl::rofl:

That's right on the money.

[Rob R]

Who is Manhattan, what's the story - I'm not sure I was around here when he posted...?

Some former member who loved New Yankee Stadium and Dodger Stadium. New Yankee Stadium and Dodger Stadium were his favorite baseball stadiums. He will watch a baseball some time at New Yankee Stadium and Dodger Stadium. He went to a baseball game at Old Yankee Stadium. He will also have the hot dog at New Yankee Stadium and the Dodger Dog at Dodger Stadium.

(Do a search on him; he was a funny dude. I miss him.

[RationalNYYfan]

haha why cant he still be around!!!

[Anubis2051]

Gary, as always, excellent work. :clapping

[yankies4life]

heres a panorama i took at game 1 of the world series

[dabigyankeeman]

Great shot of the stadium!! Thanks.

So does anybody in their head, not their heart, think this series will end in Philly? I dont see it, i dont think there is enough difference in these two teams for either of them to sweep all three games there, i see it going back to New York and new Yankee Stadium where it belongs, and where it should end.

[PhillyFan]

Great shot of the stadium!! Thanks.

So does anybody in their head, not their heart, think this series will end in Philly? I dont see it, i dont think there is enough difference in these two teams for either of them to sweep all three games there, i see it going back to New York and new Yankee Stadium where it belongs, and where it should end.

We shall see.

[Gary Dunaier]

Who is Manhattan, what's the story - I'm not sure I was around here when he posted...?

"Manhattan" was someone whose contributions were very... unique. Many times he would just state the obvious without really advancing the thread, but he'd do so in a very simplistic way. Manhattan inspired me to make the occasional Manhattan-esque post, but I'd go just a little more over the top by adding broken English or archaic phraseology or elaborating where I didn't need to and adding irrelevant information - for example, I might say something about "going to the Yankee's stadium on 161st St. across the street from Family Dollar in Bronx, NY (Michael Bloomberg, mayor) to look at the man play the base ball game in public." In my case I was doing it as a goof, but while we'll never know for sure, I think the real Manhattan was sincere.

Here are some samples of Manhattan's posts, quoted in their entirety (but by necessity taken out of the context of the threads in which they appeared, but with links provided so you can see them in their original context)...


I have read all of the posts the 2home 500 foot home runs the Babe Ruth hit at Old Yankee Stadium. (link (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=1357892#post1357892))


Babe Ruth especially played at Old Yankee Stadium. (link) (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=1357891#post1357891)


I will look around at the concession to see what is to buy eat and drink at New Yankee Stadium. (link (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=1346543#post1346543))


I will be inside of New Yankee Stadium sometime between July 25th,2009 through August 1st,2009. (link (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=1339564#post1339564))

Finally, here's a link to all of Manhattan's posts (http://baseball-fever.com/search.php?searchid=3146408). According to his profile, his last activity here was 12/3/08.

[Rob R]

2 things:

1. HUGE win for the Yanks. There goes the Phillies' home field advantage and we have CC going tomorrow.

2. Any comments on how quiet CBP sounded????? I kept hearing how much louder it's going to be. Sounded pretty damn quiet to me--quieter than NYS and they had CBP mic'd up all over the place (you could hear the players tap their spikes in the on-deck circle).

Ummm, could the quietness have to do with the REAL fans being priced out of both stadiums and NOT the stadiums themselves?? That'll be my guess. :) Phils tix went for as much as Yankee tix, so of course the die hards were left out.

[Cool Papa B.]

9 down 2 to go!!!!!!!!!!

GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!

[Rob R]

"Manhattan" was someone whose contributions were very... unique. Many times he would just state the obvious without really advancing the thread, but he'd do so in a very simplistic way. Manhattan inspired me to make the occasional Manhattan-esque post, but I'd go just a little more over the top by adding broken English or archaic phraseology or elaborating where I didn't need to and adding irrelevant information - for example, I might say something about "going to the Yankee's stadium on 161st St. across the street from Family Dollar in Bronx, NY (Michael Bloomberg, mayor) to look at the man play the base ball game in public." In my case I was doing it as a goof, but while we'll never know for sure, I think the real Manhattan was sincere.

Here are some samples of Manhattan's posts, quoted in their entirety (but by necessity taken out of the context of the threads in which they appeared, but with links provided so you can see them in their original context)...


I have read all of the posts the 2home 500 foot home runs the Babe Ruth hit at Old Yankee Stadium. (link (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=1357892#post1357892))


Babe Ruth especially played at Old Yankee Stadium. (link) (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=1357891#post1357891)


I will look around at the concession to see what is to buy eat and drink at New Yankee Stadium. (link (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=1346543#post1346543))


I will be inside of New Yankee Stadium sometime between July 25th,2009 through August 1st,2009. (link (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=1339564#post1339564))

Finally, here's a link to all of Manhattan's posts (http://baseball-fever.com/search.php?searchid=3146408). According to his profile, his last activity here was 12/3/08.

Manahattan was a trip. Do you really think he was sincere or having a good joke on us? I would go back and forth on this, never quite sure.

I'm also wondering why he was banned. He seemed harmless either way and most of us got a kick out of him. Only the crabby members would complain.

[PhillyFan]

Phils tix were even more...I dunno. The beginning tonight it was very loud...or so it seemed. I guess sometimes it is hard to tell on television with the way mic's are set up and such.

[Rob R]

9 down 2 to go!!!!!!!!!!

GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!

Well we now know that the Phils won't be winning it at home!

2 more!

[Rob R]

Phils tix were even more...I dunno. The beginning tonight it was very loud...or so it seemed. I guess sometimes it is hard to tell on television with the way mic's are set up and such.

True, regarding how the mics are set up.

As far as the ticket prices, this is no doubt shutting out many of the diehards. It just comes down to greed from MLB to the owners to the ticket holders looking to make a score.

[The Korean]

Great game. Pettie was great...at bat. lol.

[Gary Dunaier]

I'm also wondering why he was banned.

I didn't know he was banned. I just thought he stopped contributing... maybe he lost interest, or didn't think he was being taken seriously.

[PhillyFan]

Well said. That has happened for years in Philly with hockey (not to get off the baseball topic) but its annoying. Well, I hate being down 2-1 but good game again by you guys...we shall see what takes place in game 4. I still think it will go 6/7 games.

[VAPYankees4]

2 things:

1. HUGE win for the Yanks. There goes the Phillies' home field advantage and we have CC going tomorrow.

2. Any comments on how quiet CBP sounded????? I kept hearing how much louder it's going to be. Sounded pretty damn quiet to me--quieter than NYS and they had CBP mic'd up all over the place (you could hear the players tap their spikes in the on-deck circle).

Ummm, could the quietness have to do with the REAL fans being priced out of both stadiums and NOT the stadiums themselves?? That'll be my guess. :) Phils tix went for as much as Yankee tix, so of course the die hards were left out.
The tix from the phillies were ALOT cheaper then from the yankees. And it was a lot louder earlier in the game. It got quiet because of the score. It's hard to make any noise when ur team is losing 8-4. The only time NYS was loud was when they did the Who's your daddy chant twice. Once in the first and again later.

[Cool Papa B.]

2 things:

1. HUGE win for the Yanks. There goes the Phillies' home field advantage and we have CC going tomorrow.

2. Any comments on how quiet CBP sounded????? I kept hearing how much louder it's going to be. Sounded pretty damn quiet to me--quieter than NYS and they had CBP mic'd up all over the place (you could hear the players tap their spikes in the on-deck circle).

Ummm, could the quietness have to do with the REAL fans being priced out of both stadiums and NOT the stadiums themselves?? That'll be my guess. :) Phils tix went for as much as Yankee tix, so of course the die hards were left out.

Don't know Rob. I had tickets to the Knicks vs. Sixers game tonight so unfortunately, I didn't watch the whole game. I will say sometime in the 2nd quarter there was a nice "Let's Go Yankees" chant though. I'm watching the replys now.

[PhillyFan]

The tix from the phillies were ALOT cheaper then from the yankees. And it was a lot louder earlier in the game. It got quiet because of the score. It's hard to make any noise when ur team is losing 8-4. The only time NYS was loud was when they did the Who's your daddy chant twice. Once in the first and again later.

the face value ones are I'm sure.....I do know the cheapest tix on stubhub were less in NY than here.

[VAPYankees4]

the face value ones are I'm sure.....I do know the cheapest tix on stubhub were less in NY than here.

Yeah i know they were. I tried getting tickets (i live here too)

[Rob R]

The tix from the phillies were ALOT cheaper then from the yankees. And it was a lot louder earlier in the game. It got quiet because of the score. It's hard to make any noise when ur team is losing 8-4. The only time NYS was loud was when they did the Who's your daddy chant twice. Once in the first and again later.

Same could be said about game 1. Lee took the crowd out of it from the 1st inning on. I think in game 2, the crowd was more nervous than anything. That PLUS the corporate suits being the ones who could afford most of the tix.

Like I said, a friend had tickets in the grandstand for game 2. When he and others stood up to cheer AJ on after 2 strikes, people were yelling, "Down in the front" and "Sit down!." When does THAT ever happen during the regular season especially in the grandstand or bleachers? Never. It's because only the fair weather fans who could afford to pay $600+ a ticket--even $1,000-- to sit up there were in attendance.


As for the crowd noise, I know it has to do with the broadcast, but if you listen to the replays of Werth's first homer and the sac fly, ALL while the Phils had the lead, the CBP didn't sound loud...at all. Yankee homers over Fox at NYS sound MUCH louder. Go to both phillies.com and yankees.com and see (hear) for yourself.

[RationalNYYfan]

"Manhattan" was someone whose contributions were very... unique. Many times he would just state the obvious without really advancing the thread, but he'd do so in a very simplistic way. Manhattan inspired me to make the occasional Manhattan-esque post, but I'd go just a little more over the top by adding broken English or archaic phraseology or elaborating where I didn't need to and adding irrelevant information - for example, I might say something about "going to the Yankee's stadium on 161st St. across the street from Family Dollar in Bronx, NY (Michael Bloomberg, mayor) to look at the man play the base ball game in public." In my case I was doing it as a goof, but while we'll never know for sure, I think the real Manhattan was sincere.

Here are some samples of Manhattan's posts, quoted in their entirety (but by necessity taken out of the context of the threads in which they appeared, but with links provided so you can see them in their original context)...


I have read all of the posts the 2home 500 foot home runs the Babe Ruth hit at Old Yankee Stadium. (link (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=1357892#post1357892))


Babe Ruth especially played at Old Yankee Stadium. (link) (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=1357891#post1357891)


I will look around at the concession to see what is to buy eat and drink at New Yankee Stadium. (link (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=1346543#post1346543))


I will be inside of New Yankee Stadium sometime between July 25th,2009 through August 1st,2009. (link (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=1339564#post1339564))

Finally, here's a link to all of Manhattan's posts (http://baseball-fever.com/search.php?searchid=3146408). According to his profile, his last activity here was 12/3/08.

"Babe Ruth especially played at Yankee Stadium"

Just. Hilarious.

Funny, I joined in December of 2008. So I was *this* close to getting to see his genius first hand.

[Rob R]

Don't know Rob. I had tickets to the Knicks vs. Sixers game tonight so unfortunately, I didn't watch the whole game. I will say sometime in the 2nd quarter there was a nice "Let's Go Yankees" chant though. I'm watching the replys now.

Great game...enjoy the replays. There were quite a few Yanks fans there as well. They even started a "Hip Hip Jorge" chant in the 9th when Posada was up...lol. The Phillies fans then drowned them out with boos.

[Rob R]

BTW I had the opportunity to go to tonight's game in Philly (game 4), but I have to be at an early morning meeting on Monday. It would be too much of a hassle getting back. It would have been a freebie, and from what I hear good tickets. I gave them my answer this morning, so there's no turning back.

I was going back and forth on this one, now I'm kinda regretting it. Oh well.

[mets16]

BTW I had the opportunity to go to tonight's game in Philly (game 4), but I have to be at an early morning meeting on Monday. It would be too much of a hassle getting back. It would have been a freebie, and from what I hear good tickets. I gave them my answer this morning, so there's no turning back.

I was going back and forth on this one, now I'm kinda regretting it. Oh well.

Uh yeah dude, haha. I would snatch them up in a heartbeat. But I also know how it feels to have to be at work. I have to pull a Sunday for the first time since I don't know when at 9. After a night of partying. Not fun.

[ChineseDemocracy]

You should have gone to the game, and then done a line or two like the rest of us working folks come Monday morning.

Rob:dismay:

[Rob R]

/search.php?searchid=3146408"]all of Manhattan's posts[/URL]. According to his profile, his last activity here was 12/3/08.

I believe that was his last activity because for some odd reason he was banned, otherwise I'm sure we'd still be enjoying his posts.

When you click on the persons name and "send a private message" isn't a choice in the drop down menu, that means the person was either suspended or banned. I think he was banned for good. Too bad. Maybe the mods can explain.

[Rob R]

You should have gone to the game, and then done a line or two like the rest of us working folks come Monday morning.

Rob:dismay:

LOL... You know, not too long ago that would have been the way to go....

[Rob R]

Uh yeah dude, haha. I would snatch them up in a heartbeat. But I also know how it feels to have to be at work. I have to pull a Sunday for the first time since I don't know when at 9. After a night of partying. Not fun.


Especially if the Yanks lose the game. I'd be like, "What the *@$% did I just do???" while driving back.

[YankeeFanBx]

I thought the Philly crowd was pretty loud.
It's always nice to shut a loudmouth up! :shhh::dance:rofl::highfive:

[NYFan1stYankFan2nd]

Some former member who loved New Yankee Stadium and Dodger Stadium. New Yankee Stadium and Dodger Stadium were his favorite baseball stadiums. He will watch a baseball some time at New Yankee Stadium and Dodger Stadium. He went to a baseball game at Old Yankee Stadium. He will also have the hot dog at New Yankee Stadium and the Dodger Dog at Dodger Stadium.

(Do a search on him; he was a funny dude. I miss him.

Another cat on here I miss by his absence was JimmyJimJinnz(spelling needed). I honestly thought he was having interpersonal problems, but when I looked at his posting history from middle 2008 and back his posts were actually run-of-the-mill until that point.

After that point in time, it just started getting weirder and weirder with him! Like taking things other posters said literally, and the strange replies that resulted. Maybe the mods and others just couldn't put up with his recent strangeness any more. I saw through him though - and saw his decency as a person. :cap:

[PhillyFan]

Another cat on here I miss by his absence was JimmyJimJinnz(spelling needed). I honestly thought he was having interpersonal problems, but when I looked at his posting history from middle 2008 and back his posts were actually run-of-the-mill until that point.

After that point in time, it just started getting weirder and weirder with him! Like taking things other posters said literally, and the strange replies that resulted. Maybe the mods and others just couldn't put up with his recent strangeness any more. I saw through him though - and saw his decency as a person. :cap:

Lol gotta love the characters on here.....(you guys must hate me being a Philly fan...lol) Like I said before though...good game last night...nothing more I can say.

[tdinan]

2 things:

1. HUGE win for the Yanks. There goes the Phillies' home field advantage and we have CC going tomorrow.

2. Any comments on how quiet CBP sounded????? I kept hearing how much louder it's going to be. Sounded pretty damn quiet to me--quieter than NYS and they had CBP mic'd up all over the place (you could hear the players tap their spikes in the on-deck circle).

Ummm, could the quietness have to do with the REAL fans being priced out of both stadiums and NOT the stadiums themselves?? That'll be my guess. :) Phils tix went for as much as Yankee tix, so of course the die hards were left out.

I dunno, it sounded pretty damn loud when Werth hit his HR's.

I DO know that I have a huge headache from some idiot Phillies Phan who was whistling every time Pettitte threw a pitch. It pierced my brain.

Anyone else hear him/her?

[Cool Papa B.]

Another cat on here I miss by his absence was JimmyJimJinnz(spelling needed). I honestly thought he was having interpersonal problems, but when I looked at his posting history from middle 2008 and back his posts were actually run-of-the-mill until that point.

After that point in time, it just started getting weirder and weirder with him! Like taking things other posters said literally, and the strange replies that resulted. Maybe the mods and others just couldn't put up with his recent strangeness any more. I saw through him though - and saw his decency as a person. :cap:

Oh Yeah. What ever happened to that guy? Sometimes he could be funny, but then other times where he could be annoying as heck. There was one point where I actually had him on my ignore list. But then he cooled down some and I took him off. LOL What a character. And I toyally forgot about Manhattan until you guys brought him up. LOL That dude cracked me up.

[dabigyankeeman]

I thought the Philly crowd was pretty loud.
It's always nice to shut a loudmouth up! :shhh::dance:rofl::highfive:

For sure!:highfive:

[Cool Papa B.]

Hey guys. Here's a very interesting article I read in the NY Times this morning. I think all you Yankee fans would really like it. Enjoy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/01/weekinreview/01nocera.html?_r=1