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80SHOCK
05-22-2009, 06:53 AM
MAYBE we can pull of something tonight because you don't know what Dice K will give you and despite not being great in Fenway we still have Johan going. After that its Beckett vs Pelfrey (no shot) and Wakefield who I can see tying us up all day with the knuckle.
Santana is 1-3 with an ERA over 6 at Fenway. Good Luck................:pray:
yankees650B
05-22-2009, 06:59 AM
Nice pictures john.. I think you confirmed the it's not padding, but the walls where painted.
i think that makes a huge difference. exposed concrete looks so bad but i really like the blue paint. hopefully they can make more small adjustments that can improve the stadiums overall look. like putting actual blue facing on the 2nd and top of the third deck, instead of that metal fencing stuff.
SparkyL
05-22-2009, 07:07 AM
i think that makes a huge difference. exposed concrete looks so bad but i really like the blue paint. hopefully they can make more small adjustments that can improve the stadiums overall look. like putting actual blue facing on the 2nd and top of the third deck, instead of that metal fencing stuff.
I wouldn't mind if they paint those feincing blue - but I like the fact that you can see thru the fencing. It's really a plus for those sitting in the first row.
80SHOCK
05-22-2009, 07:44 AM
The new Metro North Station is ready. Some funny signs are there: :rofl:
Yankees12
05-22-2009, 08:12 AM
i think that makes a huge difference. exposed concrete looks so bad but i really like the blue paint. hopefully they can make more small adjustments that can improve the stadiums overall look. like putting actual blue facing on the 2nd and top of the third deck, instead of that metal fencing stuff.
It wasn't concrete beneath there before - it was white tile.
Still, I didn't like it, and was saying from day 1 they should paint it blue. It looks so much better now.
Now I'm just hoping, like so many others, they extend the blue to the sides of the CF restaurant.
As for the front of Sections 203, 204, 234, and 236, the only thing that needs to be done there is to remove the State Farm's/Modell's ads. The concrete facing looks good there, IMO.
jerseyyankeefan
05-22-2009, 08:32 AM
It's a hitters park.:happy:
Johnny Damon and Melky are suddenly power hitters. Although Johnny always had the ability to turn on the low/middle/in pitch - same pitch, same swing for almost every homer.
Gary Dunaier
05-22-2009, 08:54 AM
The new Metro North Station is ready. Some funny signs are there: :rofl:
It would be cool to get Cow-Bell Man (the Mets' version of Freddy "Sez") to pose in front of this ad with a shocked look on his face.
toefer
05-22-2009, 08:57 AM
i think that makes a huge difference. exposed concrete looks so bad but i really like the blue paint. hopefully they can make more small adjustments that can improve the stadiums overall look. like putting actual blue facing on the 2nd and top of the third deck, instead of that metal fencing stuff.
Maybe it's just the way the light is hitting it, but it looks like they didn't use Home Depot's trusted color matching computer thing.
Maybe it need's a second coat (doubt it, since what they painted over was very light)... but it seems like a lighter shade of blue than the OF wall color.
Edit: Nevermind... maybe. In the first picture, it looks closer. I only saw the second picture earlier, in which it looks noticeably lighter. Anyway, I like it. Hope they keep painting some more. Next stop: the Mohegan Sun sides. After that, work on the bleacher walls.
toefer
05-22-2009, 09:04 AM
Nice pics JohnQ. Last time I was at NYS was May 4th and at that time the Hard Rock guitar wasn't up. It's nice to see them staying with the original design.
In the picture you showed of the Hard Rock guitar rendering, it seemed to have a blue-ish glow around it.
Does anyone know if the guitar sign they put up actually lights up around the edges?
COLTS7
05-22-2009, 09:31 AM
That giant guitar has no place in Yankee stadium IMO. I saw it when I was at the game this past Tuesday night and to me it sticks out like a sore thumb. The great hall has all those great player banners and then the end of the hall this giant guitar. This isn't a mall it's suppose to be a stadium. I wouldn't have had that big a problem with the Hard Rock being in the stadium as long as they kept it discreet but yet again that's not the case.
RationalNYYfan
05-22-2009, 10:23 AM
That giant guitar has no place in Yankee stadium IMO. I saw it when I was at the game this past Tuesday night and to me it sticks out like a sore thumb. The great hall has all those great player banners and then the end of the hall this giant guitar. This isn't a mall it's suppose to be a stadium. I wouldn't have had that big a problem with the Hard Rock being in the stadium as long as they kept it discreet but yet again that's not the case.
The Yankee Stadium A-Z Guide describes the Great Hall as being "a boulevard to retail stores and food and beverage amenities." So the guitar is technically as welcome there as any other marketing device they choose to put up. One could argue that the player banners are less welcome in the Great Hall than the giant guitar is. But if one made that argument, one would be an a**hole. I'll shut up now.
YanksRule
05-22-2009, 11:02 AM
I think it would be nice if the Yanks took some of the padding from RYS and put it up in NYS... sure, the color would be off and it would stick out, but that's the point.. a little bit more of NYS in RYS.
It would be better if it was one of the markers.. 314, 385, 408, 399, 318.. but even a blank one would be nice...
YanksRule
05-22-2009, 11:05 AM
The Yankee Stadium A-Z Guide describes the Great Hall as being "a boulevard to retail stores and food and beverage amenities." So the guitar is technically as welcome there as any other marketing device they choose to put up. One could argue that the player banners are less welcome in the Great Hall than the giant guitar is. But if one made that argument, one would be an a**hole. I'll shut up now.
True, I think the one problem is there aren't really that many stores and shops, and the ones that they do have are very small and simple.. programs, lemonade, souvenirs, etc. It would be better if there was more of a variety of shops.. bats being made, memorabilia, etc.. then it would feel more like a mall and the guitar would fit in more.
I still don't get why the steiner collectibles stuff are all the way on the other side of the stadium in the not-so-great-hall.. that would be perfect for the GH
SparkyL
05-22-2009, 11:09 AM
That giant guitar has no place in Yankee stadium IMO. I saw it when I was at the game this past Tuesday night and to me it sticks out like a sore thumb. The great hall has all those great player banners and then the end of the hall this giant guitar. This isn't a mall it's suppose to be a stadium. I wouldn't have had that big a problem with the Hard Rock being in the stadium as long as they kept it discreet but yet again that's not the case.
We want a baseball stadium - but ownership (and not just the Yankees) wants a mall park, with the excuse of fans going there is that there happens to be a baseball game going on . .
. . . regarding the HRC - the last thing that they want is to be discreet. They want maximum exposure.
SparkyL
05-22-2009, 11:11 AM
I think it would be nice if the Yanks took some of the padding from RYS and put it up in NYS... sure, the color would be off and it would stick out, but that's the point.. a little bit more of NYS in RYS.
It would be better if it was one of the markers.. 314, 385, 408, 399, 318.. but even a blank one would be nice...
But then they couldn't sell the items for big $$$$ . . .
COLTS7
05-22-2009, 11:12 AM
I get what you're saying and that's exactly the main problem I have with the new place. I would have preferred they where a lot more discreet about all the non baseball stuff. If I want all that stuff I can go to a mall. I would have preferred they built a baseball stadium instead of a mall/stadium.
It just turns me off and I would much prefer if they tone all that stuff down and try to add a more classic feel to the place. We all know the Hard Rock is there, they have a sign on the exterior of the building, is the giant guitar necessary? I'm glad the stadiums name is Yankee Stadium and not Berger King Park or something, but once inside in many spots it's like walking into Paramus Park. I really think this isn't what most fans wanted.
dstoffa
05-22-2009, 11:17 AM
I'm glad the stadiums name is Yankee Stadium and not Berger King Park or something, but once inside in many spots it's like walking into Paramus Park. I really think this isn't what most fans wanted.
I'd have to agree. Went to my first game in NYS last night. If I broke my cell phone, I could buy a new one at the ballpark.
The building is nice. Sightlines are good, although the Terrace / Grandstand seem to be a bit further back from the action then at RYS..
The thing that rubbed me the wrong way.... it seems like NYS is the Opera meets Disneyland. Maybe they tried too hard, when keeping it simple would have been the best move.
It will take some time before I get used to NYS being Yankee Stadium.
Robbyb26
05-22-2009, 11:48 AM
I'd have to agree. Went to my first game in NYS last night. If I broke my cell phone, I could buy a new one at the ballpark.
The building is nice. Sightlines are good, although the Terrace / Grandstand seem to be a bit further back from the action then at RYS..
The thing that rubbed me the wrong way.... it seems like NYS is the Opera meets Disneyland. Maybe they tried too hard, when keeping it simple would have been the best move.
It will take some time before I get used to NYS being Yankee Stadium.
I agree...They tried too hard to top everyone else and fell kind of flat. They took away the atmosphere and grit of the recent stadium, while adding many unnecessary perks. My friend said they took away the "F" you factor. He's right. Unfortunately our rivals to the north, they still have it. :ughh
Anubis2051
05-22-2009, 11:52 AM
I'd have to agree. Went to my first game in NYS last night. If I broke my cell phone, I could buy a new one at the ballpark.
The building is nice. Sightlines are good, although the Terrace / Grandstand seem to be a bit further back from the action then at RYS..
The thing that rubbed me the wrong way.... it seems like NYS is the Opera meets Disneyland. Maybe they tried too hard, when keeping it simple would have been the best move.
It will take some time before I get used to NYS being Yankee Stadium.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't citi the one with the Verizon store built in?
Gary Dunaier
05-22-2009, 12:03 PM
The Yankee Stadium A-Z Guide describes the Great Hall as being "a boulevard to retail stores and food and beverage amenities."
Might have been more appropriate if they described the Great Hall as 'a grand concourse of retail stores. . . ' More Bronx-ish, if you get what I'm hinting at.
I still don't get why the steiner collectibles stuff are all the way on the other side of the stadium in the not-so-great-hall.. that would be perfect for the GH
The "official" Steiner Sports store is on the Field Level concourse on the first base side, next to the Peter Max store. The stuff on display near Gate 2 is just a temporary set up. Perhaps someone going to the games this weekend can get an updated photo of the area to see if they've done anything with it.
Incidentally, I like the wide, open Gate 2 area just as it is. There's something about its immense spartan-icity (is that a word?) that I really dig.
I'm glad the stadiums name is Yankee Stadium and not Berger King Park or something
I think it would have been wonderful to name the place after Sy Berger. :D
dstoffa
05-22-2009, 12:12 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't citi the one with the Verizon store built in?
I actually had to go and look it up. I have probably walked by it twenty times, but never realized the Verizon Studio it was a retail store... I may have thought is was a Verizon sponsored TV Media room or something.
The Verizon store at Citi doesn't jump out at you, because it isn't in the direct path of a person walking from A to B. I had to walk around a cell phone counter at NYS. I guess that is what rubs me the wrong way, and the reason I agreed with the person I originally quoted when it was written that NYS is comparable to Paramus Park. It seems that NYS has more of those mall-type island stores / roped off retail areas on the concourses then shops recessed into buildings.
Scooterville20
05-22-2009, 12:18 PM
i think that makes a huge difference. exposed concrete looks so bad but i really like the blue paint. hopefully they can make more small adjustments that can improve the stadiums overall look. like putting actual blue facing on the 2nd and top of the third deck, instead of that metal fencing stuff.
According to this article the bullpen walls are covered with blue vinyl. In the comments section of the article the writer wrote that he checked with the team to confirm it.
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/20/a-little-paint-make-a-big-difference/
haasertime
05-22-2009, 12:25 PM
Why don't they enforce this rule (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/foreword.jsp) anymore?
Rule 1.04, Amendment A
Any Playing Field constructed by a professional club after June 1,
1958, shall provide a minimum distance of 325 feet from home base
to the nearest fence, stand or other obstruction on the right and left
field foul lines, and a minimum distance of 400 feet to the center
field fence.
In addition to NYS, There are six other stadiums that are shorter than 325 down the line. Has this been discussed before?
DHYF162
05-22-2009, 12:47 PM
What's up fellas. Was at the amazing game on Wed for the back-to-back-to-back homers. Hell of a game! Here's some of the pics! Hope they make some great backgrounds! I'm trying to attach them but it say's there is some sort of error. HELP
dstoffa
05-22-2009, 12:51 PM
Why don't they enforce this rule (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/foreword.jsp) anymore?
Rule 1.04, Amendment A
Any Playing Field constructed by a professional club after June 1,
1958, shall provide a minimum distance of 325 feet from home base
to the nearest fence, stand or other obstruction on the right and left
field foul lines, and a minimum distance of 400 feet to the center
field fence.
In addition to NYS, There are six other stadiums that are shorter than 325 down the line. Has this been discussed before?
I recall that this rule has been interpreted as a GUIDE only.... Go figure. Maybe if the club / players actually constructed the field themselves instead of having contractors do it, they'd have to meet the fence requirements.
Cheers!
-Doug
Bobby_Ayala
05-22-2009, 01:42 PM
Why don't they enforce this rule (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/foreword.jsp) anymore?
Rule 1.04, Amendment A
Any Playing Field constructed by a professional club after June 1,
1958, shall provide a minimum distance of 325 feet from home base
to the nearest fence, stand or other obstruction on the right and left
field foul lines, and a minimum distance of 400 feet to the center
field fence.
In addition to NYS, There are six other stadiums that are shorter than 325 down the line. Has this been discussed before?Yes. All ballparks should be 330 down the lines, 375 to the gaps and 400 to center with fences with a uniform height between 8-12 feet. :rolleyes: Resurrect the RFK's, Shea's, Busch's, 3 Rivers, Riverfront's, Veterans etc.
NYS is a joke but enforcing the 325 rule isn't the answer.
YanksRule
05-22-2009, 01:48 PM
MAJOR NEWS! Yankees lightened up security.. Everyone is allowed down to field level for yankees bp!
Jalper79
05-22-2009, 01:53 PM
Has anyone tried to modify right field using photoshop??
maybe someone can do so by pushing the fence back 4 rows and adjusting the angle of the wall as well to meet up with center field.
Would def cut down on some HRs
curb my enthusiasm
05-22-2009, 02:38 PM
MAJOR NEWS! Yankees lightened up security.. Everyone is allowed down to field level for yankees bp!
We all knew that a week ago.
nymdan
05-22-2009, 03:08 PM
MAJOR NEWS! Yankees lightened up security.. Everyone is allowed down to field level for yankees bp!
DHYF162
05-22-2009, 04:30 PM
still cant upload my images (upload of file failed)
NYFan1stYankFan2nd
05-22-2009, 05:10 PM
MAJOR NEWS! Yankees lightened up security.. Everyone is allowed down to field level for yankees bp!
"...bp"???
Sorry - having a blonde moment. :blush:
NYFan1stYankFan2nd
05-22-2009, 05:11 PM
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Huh?
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mandrake
05-22-2009, 05:16 PM
Dan
Back then newspapers had several issues on the same day. The earliest issue of the Times had headlines that the Titanic struck an iceberg, was being towed back to NYC, and all were safe. I saw this at college on microfiche (sp??).
I have wondered why this mistake never gets the play as "Dewey beats Truman".
More useless trivia stuck in my head.
toefer
05-22-2009, 05:25 PM
still cant upload my images (upload of file failed)
Some of these vBulletin forums are a bit tricky, and sometimes seem to not work the way you want them to. I'm interested in seeing your photos, so my suggestion would be to head over to imageshack.com and uploading them all. You don't even need an account or anything there. You can upload a ton of files in just one or two clicks (instead of one at a time), and then afterwards it will give you a "gallery" link which you can post here... or you can post the pictures here using the IMG tags and the imageshack URL's.
Has anyone tried to modify right field using photoshop??
maybe someone can do so by pushing the fence back 4 rows and adjusting the angle of the wall as well to meet up with center field.
Would def cut down on some HRs
It'd be a lot of effort to Photoshop that, considering the Yankees probably have no plans anytime in the foreseeable future to pull out a jack-hammer and move the wall.
mandrake
05-22-2009, 05:34 PM
Why don't they enforce this rule (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/foreword.jsp) anymore?
Rule 1.04, Amendment A
Any Playing Field constructed by a professional club after June 1,
1958, shall provide a minimum distance of 325 feet from home base
to the nearest fence, stand or other obstruction on the right and left
field foul lines, and a minimum distance of 400 feet to the center
field fence.
In addition to NYS, There are six other stadiums that are shorter than 325 down the line. Has this been discussed before?
This rule was put in after the Dodgers and Giants left NYC. It was created by the same jerks who said the NL does not need NY, and a couple years later they put the only asterisk in MLB history on Roger Maris. It was done in a era of idiocy. When Charlie Finley built a replica of OYS RF and calling it 'the pennant porch' he was ordered to take it down or forfeit games. He claimed if the Yankees could have a 296 ft fence, so could Kansas City.
Teams have been able to get around this by saying the lot they are trying to squeeze the park into has some kind of boundary that prevents the 325/400/325...warehouse, streets, river, etc. Recently MLB has ignored the rule when they realized cookie cutters sucked.
Gary Dunaier
05-22-2009, 06:51 PM
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Huh?
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Dan used the Titanic newspaper to indicate that YanksRule's "major news" was old news.
But I thought YanksRule was reporting that the Yankees had extended the length of time all fans were allowed in the field level chairs... first I had heard it was just for the first hour after the gates opened, which didn't include the time the Yankees were taking the batting practice. So I thought fans could now be in the field level seating for the entire length of batting practice.
Oh, and on a completely different topic, the Yankees are playing in a brand new stadium this year. They're still on the corner of River Avenue and 161st Street, but their new home is on the north side of 161st, not the south. If you're planning to go to any games this year, you might want to make a note of this so you don't get confused.
Gary Dunaier
05-22-2009, 06:55 PM
When Charlie Finley built a replica of OYS RF and calling it 'the pennant porch' he was ordered to take it down or forfeit games. He claimed if the Yankees could have a 296 ft fence, so could Kansas City.
If memory serves me right, after the "pennant porch" was taken down Finley had the PA announcer make an announcement, every time a ball was caught in the former "pennant porch" area, something like "Ladies and gentlemen, that would have been a home run... in Yankee Stadium."
The announcements came to an end after one game where the visiting team kept hitting 'em in that area, and the PA announcer dutifully announced after each and every one that it would have been a home run in Yankee Stadium.
jerseyyankeefan
05-22-2009, 08:28 PM
Tex almost got one to the upper tier, so I suppose the answer is that it can happen, but it'll be a Ruthian blast!
CitiFieldIsNoShea
05-22-2009, 09:18 PM
Here's some news about a newer Yankee Stadium. Maybe they will fix some of the mistakes of the house that George built in the summer house that George will build.
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/yankees_building_new_vacation
NYY4Life
05-22-2009, 09:42 PM
Here's some news about a newer Yankee Stadium. Maybe they will fix some of the mistakes of the house that George built in the summer house that George will build.
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/yankees_building_new_vacation
This was posted, say about 3-6 months ago on the other thread so I am sure many have already seen this.
ipitch
05-22-2009, 09:48 PM
Tex almost got one to the upper tier, so I suppose the answer is that it can happen, but it'll be a Ruthian blast!
The Yankee announcers said that Justin Morneau hit an upper-decker during batting practice.
jimmyjimjimz
05-22-2009, 09:51 PM
Here's some news about a newer Yankee Stadium. Maybe they will fix some of the mistakes of the house that George built in the summer house that George will build.
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/yankees_building_new_vacation
ummmmmm................
...................that's kinda old
locke40
05-22-2009, 09:58 PM
The Yankee announcers said that Justin Morneau hit an upper-decker during batting practice.
And Teixeira hit one to the luxury suite level. So the answer, I believe, is a resounding yes, we will see an upper deck (terrace level) homerun.
Yankeefan3783
05-22-2009, 10:16 PM
I just got back from the game, unfortunately because of traffic (took 90 minutes to move 5 miles near the GW bridge) I wasn't able to get to the stadium in time for BP. I was kind of looking forward to going down to field level. Next time I'll take the train :).
I was sitting in Grandstand 407A, which is just to the fair side of the right field foul pole. I thought Teixeira's ball was going to land in the Grandstand, it just missed landing in the Terrance section. What a blast! I think ARod's, Jeter's, Teixeira's, Ibanez's, and Ruiz's HR's would have been out at OYS. I was walking to my seats when Rollin's hit his, by the time I looked at the field, he was rounding the bases, so I don't know where that landed. Werth's might have stayed in though. Either way, there's a constant wind blowing out, and that's something the Yankees will have to correct.
tugger
05-23-2009, 12:01 AM
Has anyone tried to modify right field using photoshop??
maybe someone can do so by pushing the fence back 4 rows and adjusting the angle of the wall as well to meet up with center field.
Would def cut down on some HRs
i started to try this, was dissatisfied with the results. So I just did this:
RationalNYYfan
05-23-2009, 05:17 AM
I just got back from the game, unfortunately because of traffic (took 90 minutes to move 5 miles near the GW bridge) I wasn't able to get to the stadium in time for BP. I was kind of looking forward to going down to field level. Next time I'll take the train :).
I was sitting in Grandstand 407A, which is just to the fair side of the right field foul pole. I thought Teixeira's ball was going to land in the Grandstand, it just missed landing in the Terrance section. What a blast! I think ARod's, Jeter's, Teixeira's, Ibanez's, and Ruiz's HR's would have been out at OYS. I was walking to my seats when Rollin's hit his, by the time I looked at the field, he was rounding the bases, so I don't know where that landed. Werth's might have stayed in though. Either way, there's a constant wind blowing out, and that's something the Yankees will have to correct.
I hope 407a was decent for grandstand cuz I'll be there today. There's a chance of rain I think though :(
NYFan1stYankFan2nd
05-23-2009, 05:52 AM
i started to try this, was dissatisfied with the results. So I just did this:
WE'RE JOE GIRARDI'S LONELY 4TH PLACE BAND, WE HOPE THAT YOU ENJOYED THE GAME!!! . .
:rofl: :rofl:
80SHOCK
05-23-2009, 05:57 AM
I just got back from the game, unfortunately because of traffic (took 90 minutes to move 5 miles near the GW bridge) I wasn't able to get to the stadium in time for BP. I was kind of looking forward to going down to field level. Next time I'll take the train :).
I was sitting in Grandstand 407A, which is just to the fair side of the right field foul pole. I thought Teixeira's ball was going to land in the Grandstand, it just missed landing in the Terrance section. What a blast! I think ARod's, Jeter's, Teixeira's, Ibanez's, and Ruiz's HR's would have been out at OYS. I was walking to my seats when Rollin's hit his, by the time I looked at the field, he was rounding the bases, so I don't know where that landed. Werth's might have stayed in though. Either way, there's a constant wind blowing out, and that's something the Yankees will have to correct.
Werth's HR was a shot too. I didn't see because I was somewhere else in my house but I heard Kay say something about the ball almost going to the upper deck.
The only questionable HR is Rollins. He hit in those field level seats. above the auxilary scoreboard where in the old stadium it was the "curved fence".
All the other HR's where shots. Terrible pitching by Burnett.
peterrod16
05-23-2009, 06:34 AM
If you think NYS is a bandbox please visit Citizens Bank Park in philly.
As a mets fan I felt let down by the yanks since i thought they were a great team.
No excuses win the next two.
for the fan worried about the rain its a small chance and if your in the grandstand you will be covered from the rain.
as of now the wind is 30mph outside watchout for homerun derby this afternoon.
the_Bored
05-23-2009, 06:41 AM
If you think NYS is a bandbox please visit Citizens Bank Park in philly.
NYS has given up a lot more HRs than Philly this year.
80SHOCK
05-23-2009, 07:43 AM
NYS has given up a lot more HRs than Philly this year.
Yep and a lot of it has to do with the short demensions. No matter how you try to slice it 314 and 318 down the lines are short.
Especially in this day and age where it doesn't take much with the players being stronger, to get the ball out of the park.
Forget the "jet stream" the demensions aren't as big as Coors Field and Citizens Bank Park. That's why the ball is going out at a higher rate then those parks.
I still think despite the "jet stream" if the field was bigger the ball would not be flying out the way it is.
If you're going to have short down the line demensions at least have high walls. To compensate for such a short distance.
Also looks like the walls are shorter then RYS.
jerseyyankeefan
05-23-2009, 09:56 AM
I don't think we'll be able to completely the judge whether the stadium is a banbox until RYS is down unfortunately. Anytime two structure are close, there's the possibility for a wind tunnel. That, and the stadium is more open, and the dimensions to right are shorter, and the bad pitching all add up. I would think that they've already had someone do a study and might just be sitting on the real answer.
DHYF162
05-23-2009, 09:56 AM
finally got the pictures going. some pretty good shots!http://img40.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=dsc00348s.jpg
Cool Papa B.
05-23-2009, 10:06 AM
I don't think we'll be able to completely the judge whether the stadium is a banbox until RYS is down unfortunately. Anytime two structure are close, there's the possibility for a wind tunnel. That, and the stadium is more open, and the dimensions to right are shorter, and the bad pitching all add up. I would think that they've already had someone do a study and might just be sitting on the real answer.
Thank you. You took the words right out of my mouth!!! Finally some words of wisdom about this topic on this thread!!!
NYBase
05-23-2009, 01:19 PM
Lots of Phillies fans in attendance yesterday and today. A little too many, didn't know they had a big road following. Bandwagon? Just trying to learn more about the fan base.
dpcv8
05-23-2009, 01:28 PM
Lots of Phillies fans in attendance yesterday and today. A little too many, didn't know they had a big road following. Bandwagon? Just trying to learn more about the fan base.
It's an easy drive up the turnpike, tickets are readily available on StubHub, it's a new building, it's a unique matchup, it's a holiday weekend.
toefer
05-23-2009, 02:41 PM
I don't think we'll be able to completely the judge whether the stadium is a banbox until RYS is down unfortunately. Anytime two structure are close, there's the possibility for a wind tunnel. That, and the stadium is more open, and the dimensions to right are shorter, and the bad pitching all add up. I would think that they've already had someone do a study and might just be sitting on the real answer.
I agree with most of that, except the last part about the bad pitching. Every home run can't be attributed to bad pitching, and the Yankees, of late, have been pitching pretty well. But the home runs are still happening.
But otherwise, yes, it's probably best to avoid drawing any conclusions until a full season or so has been played. That way we can see if weather affects it (the idea that the wind will only be like this in the spring and fall), and then see what happens when RYS is gone.
Rob R
05-23-2009, 03:58 PM
Arod! And Melky AGAIN!
peterrod16
05-23-2009, 04:00 PM
Arod! And Melky AGAIN!
great win today.
I never thought i would root for the yanks being a mets fan but i did today
Arod is Clutch.
Rob R
05-23-2009, 04:00 PM
great win today.
I never thought i would root for the yanks being a mets fan but i did today
Arod is Clutch.
Go Mets!!!!!!!! Now it's your team's turn!
baseballman1243
05-23-2009, 04:04 PM
Easy now rob lol
Rob R
05-23-2009, 04:06 PM
Easy now rob lol
lol...I'm getting a little carried away, aren't i..
Dude, where ya been?
peterrod16
05-23-2009, 04:08 PM
Go Mets!!!!!!!! Now it's your team's turn!
Well now you put the pressure on us. LOL
We cant have santana pitch every game.
We will see.
I got tired of the philly fans being very rude when i visited CBP in may
its go to see them suffer a little bit
Mets and yankee fans united for this weekend.
baseballman1243
05-23-2009, 04:09 PM
lol...I'm getting a little carried away, aren't i..
Dude, where ya been?
Lurking this way there is no way of getting suspended.
YankeeFanBx
05-23-2009, 04:25 PM
If the dimensions at the new stadium are really the same as they were at the old park, I have no problem with our stadium.
If they aren't the same, I have a problem with that.
If they are the same, look out home run records and call it a bandbox if you must, it is what it is.
GREAT GAME!!
Go Mets
YanksRule
05-23-2009, 04:40 PM
We all knew that a week ago.
Sorry.. that's what happens when you don't check the site for a week.. I was at the game like 4 days earlier and they didn't allow me down so.. thought that easing of security was newer than it actually was
jerseyyankeefan
05-23-2009, 06:10 PM
If the dimensions at the new stadium are really the same as they were at the old park, I have no problem with our stadium.
If they aren't the same, I have a problem with that.
If they are the same, look out home run records and call it a bandbox if you must, it is what it is.
GREAT GAME!!
Go Mets
Ther are the same at certain points, and seemingly different at other points, but that's only part of the story.
80SHOCK
05-23-2009, 06:13 PM
If the dimensions at the new stadium are really the same as they were at the old park, I have no problem with our stadium.
If they aren't the same, I have a problem with that.
If they are the same, look out home run records and call it a bandbox if you must, it is what it is.
GREAT GAME!!
Go Mets
They ARE the same. The only difference is due to the auxilary scoreboard (it's straight) in RF the fence is not CURVED like it was in RYS.
Doesn't seem like that's a big deal (apparently the Yankees didn't think it was a big deal either) but that small difference has become a problem.
Some people don't want to admit it because they want to criticize the stadium so much BUT most of these HR being hit would be out at RYS.
Again 314 and 318 down the lines makes for easy HRs. Especially when you don't have a tall fence/wall (like Fenway 310 down the LF line but there's a big Green wall so you actually have to get lift on the ball to hit a HR) to compensate for the short distance.
But I will also say RYS didn't have open concourses. I'm sure that and the fact that down the lines is not big factors in why the balls are flying out.
It would suck if they have to close off the concourses because that's a big part of having a new stadium.
Let me also add: I'm surprised that RYS played as neutral as it did. 399 and 385 in the gaps is respectable nothing wrong with those distant markers and certainly 408 to dead CF is fine. BUT 314 and 318 with not tall wall/fence is too short.
I'm starting to think the only reason why it played neutral was there were no open concourses and the RF wall towards the gap was curved.
Anubis2051
05-23-2009, 06:16 PM
Hey everyone just got back from the game. Nothing major to report, but I can confirm that it isn't pading, but rather a plastic like on the sports bar that is in the bullpens, I touched it myself. Other then that, great game. The place was ROCKING especially after the arod HR, but even before that it was loud, easily as loud as I've ever heard RYS. The fans really have faith in this team, and I think it's giving them a lot of energy, which is great. As another poster said though, WAYYYYY to many philly fans there. They're not polite either, very rude, shoving people, sitting in peoples seats (including mine), and then calling you rude when you ask them to move. They're almost as bad as Boston fans, and that's saying something. No class at all in philly.
YankeeFanBx
05-23-2009, 07:04 PM
Hey everyone just got back from the game. Nothing major to report, but I can confirm that it isn't pading, but rather a plastic like on the sports bar that is in the bullpens, I touched it myself. Other then that, great game. The place was ROCKING especially after the arod HR, but even before that it was loud, easily as loud as I've ever heard RYS. The fans really have faith in this team, and I think it's giving them a lot of energy, which is great. As another poster said though, WAYYYYY to many philly fans there. They're not polite either, very rude, shoving people, sitting in peoples seats (including mine), and then calling you rude when you ask them to move. They're almost as bad as Boston fans, and that's saying something. No class at all in philly.
They are pretty obnoxious, and yes, they do remind you of redsox fans.
baseballman1243
05-23-2009, 08:12 PM
Not surprised that there would be a lot of Philly fans. A meaningless series yet an easy money maker for season ticket holders.
elancaster
05-23-2009, 09:07 PM
They are pretty obnoxious, and yes, they do remind you of redsox fans.
Excuse you, they are NOT Red Sox fans, they're RED SUX/POX TROLLS. Quite a shame, because I love both New England and Boston. My father was a New Englander too, but I could never root for any Boston team until those hateful, jealous, Yankee-hating rejects are cured of their Asperger's syndrome.
That said, good for Omir Santos humiliating Poop-el-bum. And thank God for A-Rod and Melky. Yeah, Philadelphia fans (and I understand Oakland ones) are also way worse than the worst ones here.
Go Yankees and Mets!
One more thing since this is, after all, the NYS thead - when I was there on Tuesday, a warm day, it felt almost cold in the great hall. Time will tell if this natural air cirulation works during a 90+ degree day. How must it have felt during those exhibition games with the Cubs when it was so cold outside?!
baseballman1243
05-24-2009, 06:08 AM
No you are wrong. Red Sox fans and bandwagon red sox fans are both at the same level: the bottom. It's just that regular Red Sox fans have been "rooting" for the team longer.
nymdan
05-24-2009, 07:49 AM
Excuse you, they are NOT Red Sox fans, they're RED SUX/POX TROLLS. Quite a shame, because I love both New England and Boston. My father was a New Englander too, but I could never root for any Boston team until those hateful, jealous, Yankee-hating rejects are cured of their Asperger's syndrome.
That said, good for Omir Santos humiliating Poop-el-bum. And thank God for A-Rod and Melky. Yeah, Philadelphia fans (and I understand Oakland ones) are also way worse than the worst ones here.
Go Yankees and Mets!
Criticizing other teams' fans and then proceeding to 1) Say that Red Sox fans have a form of autism and 2) Call a Red Sox player a childish name?
Sounds about right.
Yankees12
05-24-2009, 08:18 AM
I hate the Red Sox as much as anyone, but the entire "Red Sux" thing is so childish, and it was completely played out by like 2002.
(Same goes for "Muts" or "Spankees" - not that they were ever not childish, but they've been played out for so long now.)
Anubis2051
05-24-2009, 09:49 AM
btw, one more thing that I want to see the Yankees do. Well, two actually.
The scoreboard on the LED ribbon needs to be moved to around first/third base like it was in the old stadium so that fans don't need to turn their whole head to see what a pitch was called. The other thing is, I sit in the LF bleachers with my Saturday plan, and from there, I can't see the clock clearly. Normally I wouldn't have noticed, but yesterday, without my cellphone, I realized that it was almost impossible to tell what time it was. Same probably goes for RF because of the sports bar. So all I ask is that the Yankees put a clock somewhere along the gigantic ribbon board. It wouldn't kill them to have to give up the tinniest bit of ad space on the humongous thing to give fans the ability to tell what time it is!
Place has a buzz in it today too. I'm starting to warm up to the new place a lot more.
toefer
05-24-2009, 01:29 PM
Watching today's game reminded me of something I was going to ask here...
Is the dirt in NYS a different kind of dirt than RYS? Is it just me, or does it seem like a more orange-ish tint of brown?
Also, why do the mound and home plate area look like they have tons of black marks all over it? Watching the game just now, the pitchers mound is a much lighter color than the infield dirt, but then its covered with all these black speckle marks from the rubber down to the front. Anyone know what that is?
~~~
Unrelated, I don't really like when Kay keeps referring to past games at RYS or OYS as "here". One example (among the many times he probably does it each game) was just a few minutes ago when Gardner was batting, and they were talking about Gardner's walk-off wins ("one that comes to mind is the one here off Papelbon").
I don't know if he just says it out of habit, or if it's some sort of company policy, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the latter.
RationalNYYfan
05-24-2009, 02:20 PM
Watching today's game reminded me of something I was going to ask here...
Is the dirt in NYS a different kind of dirt than RYS? Is it just me, or does it seem like a more orange-ish tint of brown?
Also, why do the mound and home plate area look like they have tons of black marks all over it? Watching the game just now, the pitchers mound is a much lighter color than the infield dirt, but then its covered with all these black speckle marks from the rubber down to the front. Anyone know what that is?
~~~
Unrelated, I don't really like when Kay keeps referring to past games at RYS or OYS as "here". One example (among the many times he probably does it each game) was just a few minutes ago when Gardner was batting, and they were talking about Gardner's walk-off wins ("one that comes to mind is the one here off Papelbon").
I don't know if he just says it out of habit, or if it's some sort of company policy, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the latter.
I've got a very strong gut feeling that the Yankees asked him to say "here" in order to bridge the gap, so to speak.
Gylmar
05-24-2009, 02:28 PM
I've got a very strong gut feeling that the Yankees asked him to say "here" in order to bridge the gap, so to speak.
Could it be that when he says here he means the Bronx?
toefer
05-24-2009, 02:34 PM
Could it be that when he says here he means the Bronx?
I thought of that, but sometimes he says "here at the stadium". But then I thought, well, that could technically be correct too, if he meant "here" as in the Bronx, and "at the stadium" referring to the old place, so "here at the stadium" would be the same was "in the Bronx, at RYS".
But then I figured I was thinking way too much about it, and let it go.
Yankees12
05-24-2009, 02:51 PM
I think "here" might just be a general term for "at home."
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if the Yanks told Kay to refer to whatever happened at home in the past as "here." I'm not bothered by it though - everyone knows what he's talking about and that "here" means "at home," not necessarily "at NYS."
yankees650B
05-24-2009, 04:47 PM
is the blue paint in the bullpen the only change to the stadium theres been after the official start to the season?
80SHOCK
05-24-2009, 05:09 PM
is the blue paint in the bullpen the only change to the stadium theres been after the official start to the season?
The only other change I've seen on TV is new ad above the garage.
Gary Dunaier
05-24-2009, 07:01 PM
I sit in the LF bleachers with my Saturday plan, and from there, I can't see the clock clearly. Normally I wouldn't have noticed, but yesterday, without my cellphone, I realized that it was almost impossible to tell what time it was. Same probably goes for RF because of the sports bar. So all I ask is that the Yankees put a clock somewhere along the gigantic ribbon board. It wouldn't kill them to have to give up the tinniest bit of ad space on the humongous thing to give fans the ability to tell what time it is!
There's something called a "wrist watch" that you wrap around your wrist, and it'll give you the time of day no matter where you're sitting. It'll even tell you what time it is outside the stadium! It's the bee's knees!!!!!
Gehrig27
05-24-2009, 07:53 PM
Watching today's game reminded me of something I was going to ask here...
Is the dirt in NYS a different kind of dirt than RYS? Is it just me, or does it seem like a more orange-ish tint of brown?
Also, why do the mound and home plate area look like they have tons of black marks all over it? Watching the game just now, the pitchers mound is a much lighter color than the infield dirt, but then its covered with all these black speckle marks from the rubber down to the front. Anyone know what that is?
There's more clay under those parts of the field. The pitcher and batter need a good firm footing so there is less between the surface and the packing clay underneath; this makes it more noticable when it gets kicked up.
Gary Dunaier
05-24-2009, 10:51 PM
Is the dirt in NYS a different kind of dirt than RYS? Is it just me, or does it seem like a more orange-ish tint of brown?
Danbury Mint is offering a framed photo, "The Tradition Continues," which includes capsules of dirt from both Yankee Stadiums (link (http://www.danburymint.com/sports/prod/Yankee-Stadium--The-Tradition-Continues_12649.aspx)).
Based on their photo of the product, the dirt from the new Stadium appears to be finer than that from the old. But that's just my impression, it could be one of a hundred things: the photography, a peculiarity of the specific capsule used in the photo... anything.
SparkyL
05-25-2009, 12:55 AM
Watching today's game reminded me of something I was going to ask here...
Is the dirt in NYS a different kind of dirt than RYS? Is it just me, or does it seem like a more orange-ish tint of brown?
Also, why do the mound and home plate area look like they have tons of black marks all over it? Watching the game just now, the pitchers mound is a much lighter color than the infield dirt, but then its covered with all these black speckle marks from the rubber down to the front. Anyone know what that is?
~~~
Unrelated, I don't really like when Kay keeps referring to past games at RYS or OYS as "here". One example (among the many times he probably does it each game) was just a few minutes ago when Gardner was batting, and they were talking about Gardner's walk-off wins ("one that comes to mind is the one here off Papelbon").
I don't know if he just says it out of habit, or if it's some sort of company policy, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the latter.
I noticed that too.
In fact, during the exhibition games the warning track was the same yellowish color as the infield. They have since added a thin layer of orangish material on top - not sure why. I noticed the other day that there were "scratches" in the warning track near the visitor's dugout and you could see the yellow dirt.
As for the pitchers mound, even in RYS there was another type/color material in the front - something that I don't recall existing in other parks.
YankeeFanBx
05-25-2009, 04:08 AM
Teixeira's broken bat home run went to fairly deep left field, (I know it's a nice poke, I sat there my first game) so what does this say about the ballpark?
For me it says the wind must be doing a lot to boost the ball over the fences.
That wasn't a 'cheap' home run, is Teix that strong? :shrug:
80SHOCK
05-25-2009, 06:22 AM
Teixeira's broken bat home run went to fairly deep left field, (I know it's a nice poke, I sat there my first game) so what does this say about the ballpark?
For me it says the wind must be doing a lot to boost the ball over the fences.
That wasn't a 'cheap' home run, is Teix that strong? :shrug:
No it wasn't a cheap HR. That ball landed several rows back. It didn't just get over the fence.
But because his bat broke and it's obviously open season on the new stadium, many will say the HR was a joke.
If you look at the replay Teixeira hit the ball in the sweet spot. He hit well. He said he did.
My guess is there was a fracture already in the bat.
Also I don't remember the game, but Girardi said Damon last year had a broken bat HR too at the old stadium. So....
jerseyyankeefan
05-25-2009, 06:27 AM
Teixeira's broken bat home run went to fairly deep left field, (I know it's a nice poke, I sat there my first game) so what does this say about the ballpark?
For me it says the wind must be doing a lot to boost the ball over the fences.
That wasn't a 'cheap' home run, is Teix that strong? :shrug:
It broke near the grip, not the barrel - these bats have very, very thin grips as compared to earlier bats - greater bat speed.
toefer
05-25-2009, 09:21 AM
There's more clay under those parts of the field. The pitcher and batter need a good firm footing so there is less between the surface and the packing clay underneath; this makes it more noticable when it gets kicked up.
Thanks. I was looking through some old pictures of games from the last few years, and it seemed to somewhat show up on the old mound, but not quite as much. Maybe it's because the new mound looks so light, that the dark spots stand out.
I don't know how to describe it, other than it looked like tons of little chunks of rubber, and was a black-ish color. But maybe I'm hallucinating. I'll have to look at it again next week.
Danbury Mint is offering a framed photo, "The Tradition Continues," which includes capsules of dirt from both Yankee Stadiums (link (http://www.danburymint.com/sports/prod/Yankee-Stadium--The-Tradition-Continues_12649.aspx)).
Based on their photo of the product, the dirt from the new Stadium appears to be finer than that from the old. But that's just my impression, it could be one of a hundred things: the photography, a peculiarity of the specific capsule used in the photo... anything.
From that photo, I agree that it definitely looks like a finer kind of dirt. The color doesn't seem too different, so I wonder if it's just the lighting causing it to appear a different shade on TV. Or maybe the finer consistency of it makes it look wet longer, which gives it that darker look. I have no idea.
toefer
05-25-2009, 09:21 AM
It broke near the grip, not the barrel - these bats have very, very thin grips as compared to earlier bats - greater bat speed.
I wonder if the new stadium has a "carpenter's shop" like the old one, for players to go and grind down the handles of their bats.
David Atkatz
05-25-2009, 10:54 AM
From that photo, I agree that it definitely looks like a finer kind of dirt. The color doesn't seem too different, so I wonder if it's just the lighting causing it to appear a different shade on TV. Or maybe the finer consistency of it makes it look wet longer, which gives it that darker look. I have no idea.
I think the dirt from NYS looks more like the dirt from OYS than the dirt from RYS does. ;-)
toefer
05-25-2009, 11:26 AM
I think the dirt from NYS looks more like the dirt from OYS than the dirt from RYS does. ;-)
Haha. I guess it takes someone as old as dirt to know something like that. :happy:
baseballman1243
05-25-2009, 11:43 AM
Did anyone notice that the visitor's bullpen has the same dirt as the warning track and the Yankees bullpen has the same dirt as the infield?
SparkyL
05-25-2009, 06:29 PM
Did anyone notice that the visitor's bullpen has the same dirt as the warning track and the Yankees bullpen has the same dirt as the infield?
Maybe they haven't finished laying down that orange material.
SparkyL
05-26-2009, 12:14 PM
I finally had a chance to visit the Audi Club. Here are some pics.
Great decor and the buffet is very good, but I still think it's not worth $65, especially at 11:00am for a day game. [Maybe they should have a $20 brunch for that.] I believe that the Mets are charging $41 for the same thing - which is more reasonable.
You can't see the field from the dining area (you can only see the stands) - you need to be in a "purchased" seat in the front section for that.
The bar area is very nice - much nicer than the Mohegan Sun Sports Bar, but you can't buy any food there (some wings would have been nice) and it's only about 1/3 the size of the sports bar. So it's hard to justify a membership for just the bar (I can't afford the buffet more than 2x a year . . ).
Flushing Roots
05-26-2009, 12:17 PM
Just called the ticket office to try and find out when they will stop selling the 12 game plans. Guy told me he didn't know. Reason I asked is I'd like to get in this year with a minimal investment in order to get preferential status for a better plan next year. Any of you guys know approximately when they usually cut these off? Right now the 12 game plan is pro-rated down to 7 games...:confused::confused::confused::confused:
YanksRule
05-26-2009, 12:22 PM
I finally had a chance to visit the Audi Club. Here are some pics.
Great decor and the buffet is very good, but I still think it's not worth $65, especially at 11:00am for a day game. [Maybe they should have a $20 brunch for that.] I believe that the Mets are charging $41 for the same thing - which is more reasonable.
You can't see the field from the dining area (you can only see the stands) - you need to be in a "purchased" seat in the front section for that.
The bar area is very nice - much nicer than the Mohegan Sun Sports Bar, but you can't buy any food there (some wings would have been nice) and it's only about 1/3 the size of the sports bar. So it's hard to justify a membership for just the bar (I can't afford the buffet more than 2x a year . . ).
I found out the Budweiser Lounge in the corner of the Audi Club with the outdoor seating was rented out for the entire season by Budweiser for use by them, hence why there is no advertising for it. The only time it has been used was Opening Day and the Boston and Philly series.
SparkyL
05-26-2009, 12:33 PM
I found out the Budweiser Lounge in the corner of the Audi Club with the outdoor seating was rented out for the entire season by Budweiser for use by them, hence why there is no advertising for it. The only time it has been used was Opening Day and the Boston and Philly series.
Interesting . . . that's what the "guard" outside of the door to it told me. Then when I asked Jose (who was the sales guy who gave me the tour of the Audi Club) he said that it was available for rent for about $3,000/game, and that included the buffet . .
. . . in any case, it was in use on Saturday.
For the price of the Audi Club membership, that are should be included too.
Which symbolizes the way NYS works - you drop some serious $$ for what you think is a good deal, only to find out that you get half of what you thought you were getting (and were willing to pay for), and the rest (and sometimes it's more than one thing) costs more. A lot more.
Jim Vaz
05-26-2009, 01:34 PM
Interesting . . . that's what the "guard" outside of the door to it told me. Then when I asked Jose (who was the sales guy who gave me the tour of the Audi Club) he said that it was available for rent for about $3,000/game, and that included the buffet . .
. . . in any case, it was in use on Saturday.
For the price of the Audi Club membership, that are should be included too.
Which symbolizes the way NYS works - you drop some serious $$ for what you think is a good deal, only to find out that you get half of what you thought you were getting (and were willing to pay for), and the rest (and sometimes it's more than one thing) costs more. A lot more.
Whats the world coming to? Even the wealthy are being outpriced by the super wealthy. :crazy
If these new NY stadiums are not the poster children for class division in this country in I don't know what is. :shrug:
Gary Dunaier
05-26-2009, 02:07 PM
You can't see the field from the dining area (you can only see the stands) - you need to be in a "purchased" seat in the front section for that.
Sounds like a more upscale version of Citi Field's Promenade Club... with tables and seats.
Feh.
SparkyL
05-26-2009, 02:33 PM
Has anyone heard or seen anything about an "official" book about the construction of NYS? I have a book about the making of Miller Park and it's really good . . .
. . . since they published 2 recently about O/RYS I have my fingers crossed.
dstoffa
05-26-2009, 05:40 PM
Just called the ticket office to try and find out when they will stop selling the 12 game plans. Guy told me he didn't know. Reason I asked is I'd like to get in this year with a minimal investment in order to get preferential status for a better plan next year. Any of you guys know approximately when they usually cut these off? Right now the 12 game plan is pro-rated down to 7 games...:confused::confused::confused::confused:
What the most you are going to save? $20 or $25 per seat? I can't see them selling pro-rated 12-game plans with post season rights much longer (maybe 6 games?) If you plan on using the tickets regardless of how many are in the plan, just buy them already. Is it really worth getting shut out? Or are you purchasing as an investment?
Gary Dunaier
05-26-2009, 07:10 PM
Has anyone heard or seen anything about an "official" book about the construction of NYS? I have a book about the making of Miller Park and it's really good . . .
. . . since they published 2 recently about O/RYS I have my fingers crossed.
With all the negative press the new stadium has been receiving, it's possible such a book might not sell enough for a publisher to be interested.
YanksRule
05-26-2009, 09:27 PM
You can't see the field from the dining area (you can only see the stands) - you need to be in a "purchased" seat in the front section for that.
It depends when you go.. if you go 2 hours before, they will give you seats in the 3rd row of the "purchased" seat area and you can see the field for batting practice..
But it's just not the same, like you see the video on the board being played, and can see the people in the bleachers and stands going for balls, yet you can't hear any of it.. all you get is this background music that sounds like you are in a hip upscale club and not a ballgame.. it just felt wrong. The food was damn good though =)
It was sad though, people were walking in who had seats for the game there, and they were happy to be inside for the ballgame.. I remember one couple coming in and they said something like "Our seats are in here? We don't have to go outside at all? That's great!"... I almost choked on my food.. seriously, being outside with the fans and being in the atmosphere is the best part of going to the game... if it wasn't for that, I'd sit at home and watch on tv for a lot less. Hell, my HDTV that will be showing Yankee games for the next 10 years (here's to hoping) cost the same as one front row legends seat that'll be mine for 5 hours
BTW I missed you by one day.. I was there Friday
YankeeFanBx
05-28-2009, 05:38 AM
With all the negative press the new stadium has been receiving, it's possible such a book might not sell enough for a publisher to be interested.
But a book about the building of Citi Field would sell millions of copies.
Am I right Mets fans?
Jim Vaz
05-28-2009, 05:41 AM
But a book about the building of Citi Field would sell millions copies.
Am I right Mets fans?
You're correct.
The Monument
05-28-2009, 06:47 AM
Has anyone heard or seen anything about an "official" book about the construction of NYS? I have a book about the making of Miller Park and it's really good . . .
. . . since they published 2 recently about O/RYS I have my fingers crossed.
Since the Yanks themselves have put out "official" retrospective and Final Season books, I would expect them to do the same with a construction/Inaugural Season book.
SparkyL
05-28-2009, 06:56 AM
It depends when you go.. if you go 2 hours before, they will give you seats in the 3rd row of the "purchased" seat area and you can see the field for batting practice..
But it's just not the same, like you see the video on the board being played, and can see the people in the bleachers and stands going for balls, yet you can't hear any of it.. all you get is this background music that sounds like you are in a hip upscale club and not a ballgame.. it just felt wrong. The food was damn good though =)
It was sad though, people were walking in who had seats for the game there, and they were happy to be inside for the ballgame.. I remember one couple coming in and they said something like "Our seats are in here? We don't have to go outside at all? That's great!"... I almost choked on my food.. seriously, being outside with the fans and being in the atmosphere is the best part of going to the game... if it wasn't for that, I'd sit at home and watch on tv for a lot less. Hell, my HDTV that will be showing Yankee games for the next 10 years (here's to hoping) cost the same as one front row legends seat that'll be mine for 5 hours
BTW I missed you by one day.. I was there Friday
Did you have one of the two "seatings"? I had the first one so I could be done with the meal and then watch the game from my seat.
Did they offer you that 3rd row or did you have to ask for it? Did you eat your meal at that seat?
Finally, have you been in the Audi Club later in the game, after the 2nd seating? What do they do will the large dinning area? Can members hang there with drinks, rather than just at the bar - even if they didn't buy the buffet? Or is the buffet running the whole game?
Thx
YankeeFanBx
05-28-2009, 10:12 AM
You're correct.
But of course. :rolleyes:
YanksRule
05-28-2009, 10:22 AM
Did you have one of the two "seatings"? I had the first one so I could be done with the meal and then watch the game from my seat.
Did they offer you that 3rd row or did you have to ask for it? Did you eat your meal at that seat?
Finally, have you been in the Audi Club later in the game, after the 2nd seating? What do they do will the large dinning area? Can members hang there with drinks, rather than just at the bar - even if they didn't buy the buffet? Or is the buffet running the whole game?
Thx
I was there for the first seating 2 hours before so I could still see the game from outside. I actually got there really early - I was one of the first ones there. They just gave me the 3rd row.. I was surprised too, because I thought you had to get tickets for those.. I guess they can't sell more than 2 rows worth. Plus it was just me for the audi club, so maybe that's why? I did eat my meal at the seat.
I haven't been there during the game, so no idea.
NYBase
05-28-2009, 11:12 AM
Any pics??
YanksRule
05-28-2009, 12:37 PM
Any pics??
If you mean of the Audi Club, I went straight from work so didn't have my camera.. I took photos with my cell phone but they are low quality... I can post them later.
NYBase
05-28-2009, 01:15 PM
If you mean of the Audi Club, I went straight from work so didn't have my camera.. I took photos with my cell phone but they are low quality... I can post them later.
I'll take whatever you got (slaps vein on arm)
Anubis2051
05-28-2009, 04:44 PM
This picture was up on the scoreboard during one of the phillies games:
Tino24
05-28-2009, 04:53 PM
does anyone know how many bleacher seats there are in NYS vs RYS?
SparkyL
05-28-2009, 05:32 PM
does anyone know how many bleacher seats there are in NYS vs RYS?
I have a couple of spreadsheets of seating counts by area for both RYS and NYS. Alas, I am on the road and they are at home. But NYS has less.
SparkyL
05-28-2009, 05:34 PM
Any pics??
I posted a bunch of high res pics of the Audi Club on the last page - did you not see them?
SparkyL
05-28-2009, 05:37 PM
I was there for the first seating 2 hours before so I could still see the game from outside. I actually got there really early - I was one of the first ones there. They just gave me the 3rd row.. I was surprised too, because I thought you had to get tickets for those.. I guess they can't sell more than 2 rows worth. Plus it was just me for the audi club, so maybe that's why? I did eat my meal at the seat.
I haven't been there during the game, so no idea.
We'll, you're supposed to have tickets . . . When I was there the place was pretty empty too. They sat me at a table in the last seating area (by the door to the Bud HOF lounge) and there was no one else in that section, including the front seating area.
BTW - I gather you have a membership to the Club? Do you have one for the Sports Bar too?
seeknay22
05-28-2009, 05:59 PM
hey, gang... nbcnewyork.com is having another golden local contest.
it's between citi field and yankee stadium for new best stadium.
and yankee stadium is currently losing big!
come on, everyone...vote for our digs!
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/around_town/debates/
YanksRule
05-28-2009, 07:23 PM
We'll, you're supposed to have tickets . . . When I was there the place was pretty empty too. They sat me at a table in the last seating area (by the door to the Bud HOF lounge) and there was no one else in that section, including the front seating area.
BTW - I gather you have a membership to the Club? Do you have one for the Sports Bar too?
I'm not sure.. I was confused too but apparently the row entirely for people without that $140 ticket because everyone there got checks, which you wouldn't get if you had the ticket. Maybe on the weekends when it is busier they don't let people in the row?
Nah, I don't have any memberships... I just wanted to try it one time so I bought a pass online for the game (3rd party sites has the passes for cheap.. on admitone they are $10 for the next game)... I was getting out of work early and I already had a ticket so it was the perfect time to try it. How did you get the pass?
Does anyone have memberships here? Are they worth it?
Anubis2051
05-28-2009, 08:07 PM
Okay, so I'm taking a few friends up to the stadium next week that have never been there before. I have my usual seats, in the bleachers, and gate 8 is usually the quickest gate to get into, but I'm thinking I need to take them in through gate 4 for the full effect. What do you guys think?
Yankeefan3783
05-28-2009, 08:12 PM
Okay, so I'm taking a few friends up to the stadium next week that have never been there before. I have my usual seats, in the bleachers, and gate 8 is usually the quickest gate to get into, but I'm thinking I need to take them in through gate 4 for the full effect. What do you guys think?
I think it's a good idea. That, or around Gate 6 so they walk right into the Great Hall.
The House That Ruth Built
05-28-2009, 08:13 PM
Okay, so I'm taking a few friends up to the stadium next week that have never been there before. I have my usual seats, in the bleachers, and gate 8 is usually the quickest gate to get into, but I'm thinking I need to take them in through gate 4 for the full effect. What do you guys think?
That sounds good. If you get there early you can walk around the Great Hall and check out the rest of the main Stadium itself. You can also check out the Hard Rock Cafe, Steakhouse and/or the Museum. If you go to Monument Park from the Great Hall, you will wind up by the bleachers anyway. Btw, what game are you going to?
Anubis2051
05-28-2009, 08:26 PM
That sounds good. If you get there early you can walk around the Great Hall and check out the rest of the main Stadium itself. You can also check out the Hard Rock Cafe, Steakhouse and/or the Museum. If you go to Monument Park from the Great Hall, you will wind up by the bleachers anyway. Btw, what game are you going to?
The 1:05 on Thursday, its one of the games they tacked on for us saturday guys. I still haven't checked out the museum/monument park, so that might be a good time to get it in. I think the hall though is really the most breathtaking way to enter the stadium, verses gate 8, which, while it has it's charm, is still just a gate. BTW, on promotional days, check out 8 and 2, they usually take a while longer to run out because of the slower flow of traffic.
jimmyjimjimz
05-28-2009, 08:34 PM
The 1:05 on Thursday, its one of the games they tacked on for us saturday guys. I still haven't checked out the museum/monument park, so that might be a good time to get it in. I think the hall though is really the most breathtaking way to enter the stadium, verses gate 8, which, while it has it's charm, is still just a gate. BTW, on promotional days, check out 8 and 2, they usually take a while longer to run out because of the slower flow of traffic.
Actually dude, just to let you know, the great hall starts at gate 6, not gate 4. When I went, I went in Gate 4, and I wasn't exactly in The Great Hall. Gate 4 IS the main gate, but the Great Hall actually goes from Gate 6 to Gate 4. I don't know WHY they always said it started at Gate 4.
YanksRule
05-28-2009, 08:40 PM
Okay, so I'm taking a few friends up to the stadium next week that have never been there before. I have my usual seats, in the bleachers, and gate 8 is usually the quickest gate to get into, but I'm thinking I need to take them in through gate 4 for the full effect. What do you guys think?
The one thing is if you get there really early, right when the gates open, Gate 4 isn't open yet (at least when I went). They made us go to a single gate in the Great Hall... so just an FYI.
It is a really good thing to get there early because that will be their chance to go down to field level and see some angles they can't get once the level is closed off.
Plus, save the museum for middle of the game when there are no lines.
Gary Dunaier
05-28-2009, 08:45 PM
Actually dude, just to let you know, the great hall starts at gate 6, not gate 4. When I went, I went in Gate 4, and I wasn't exactly in The Great Hall. Gate 4 IS the main gate, but the Great Hall actually goes from Gate 6 to Gate 4. I don't know WHY they always said it started at Gate 4.
Actually the Great Hall stops just short of Gate 4. Walking from Gate 6 towards Gate 4, you have the escalator to your left, ticket booths to your right, a short corridor, and a gift shop to your right. That corridor will take you to Gate 4.
SparkyL
05-28-2009, 09:46 PM
Actually the Great Hall stops just short of Gate 4. Walking from Gate 6 towards Gate 4, you have the escalator to your left, ticket booths to your right, a short corridor, and a gift shop to your right. That corridor will take you to Gate 4.
Right.
Gate 4 is more impressive from the outside - but Gate 6 and the GH entries are more impressive once you get in.
SparkyL
05-28-2009, 09:50 PM
I'm not sure.. I was confused too but apparently the row entirely for people without that $140 ticket because everyone there got checks, which you wouldn't get if you had the ticket. Maybe on the weekends when it is busier they don't let people in the row?
Nah, I don't have any memberships... I just wanted to try it one time so I bought a pass online for the game (3rd party sites has the passes for cheap.. on admitone they are $10 for the next game)... I was getting out of work early and I already had a ticket so it was the perfect time to try it. How did you get the pass?
Does anyone have memberships here? Are they worth it?
I saw some on admitone.com but they were too expensive for a game a week or so out, and by the time the price came down close to game date, the FedEx overnight negated the price drop. How did they ship your pass?
elancaster
05-29-2009, 09:13 AM
BTW, on promotional days, check out 8 and 2, they usually take a while longer to run out because of the slower flow of traffic.
Gate 2 is the one to go to, not gate 8. On 5/19, my brother entered gate 8 at about 5:30 and the Dunkin' Donuts gift cards had already run out. I entered in to the left of gate 6 and got mine, but it's only for $2. Cheapos!
Gate 2 is my preference though. The extra walk doesn't bother me. On 6/5, stadium figurine night, I'll be damned if I arrive after 5:00.
Cool Papa B.
05-29-2009, 09:24 PM
Well, isn't this interesting?!? At the beginning of May Boston was in 1st Place; idiot Boston fans came onto this thread practically celebrating like their team won the World Series, and sportscasters were kissing up to them ordaining them the best in baseball. And now 4 weeks later looks who's in 1st & playing solid baseball.
I thought RedSox fans would have learned from first hand experience that you don't start celebrating in May!!!! I wonder where all those RedSox fans (fitch94) that were gloating are now.
Anyway, I'll be at the game next friday when they play the Rays. I'll take lots of pics. Any picture request just let me know.
GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jimmyjimjimz
05-29-2009, 10:42 PM
Gate 2 is the one to go to, not gate 8. On 5/19, my brother entered gate 8 at about 5:30 and the Dunkin' Donuts gift cards had already run out. I entered in to the left of gate 6 and got mine, but it's only for $2. Cheapos!
Gate 2 is my preference though. The extra walk doesn't bother me. On 6/5, stadium figurine night, I'll be damned if I arrive after 5:00.
Wow, I'm going on June 5th, too. I'll be the dude wearing the Yankee hat, lol.
Gary Dunaier
05-29-2009, 11:34 PM
Wow, I'm going on June 5th, too. I'll be the dude wearing the Yankee hat, lol.
I won't be able to go to the game due to obligations that weekend. Can I have your stadium replica? :waving
Gary Dunaier
05-30-2009, 12:48 AM
Not sure which of the many Yankee Stadium threads this belongs in, so I’ll just post it here and we’ll take it from there.
Submitted for your consideration: a very interesting quote I found in a new book about Yankee Stadium. It comes from a chapter making a case why Yankee Stadium stands alone as the most legendary sports venue in North America:
Great venues in North America were ranked in terms of longevity, championship contests, the number of icons that have played there, and the magnitude of events that expand beyond the venue’s primary sports.
Clearly, longevity has to be at the top of the list. To be mentioned in the conversation, the venue has to span a few generations.
[snipped]
Among other iconic venues, Soldier Field, which is 38 years young, is simply too new to be compared to the all-time greats. The same goes for Madison Square Garden IV, which celebrated its 40th birthday in 2008. Madison Square Garden I, II and III were all placed in different locations and, separately, don’t pass the test of time. Even though MSG - in all its incarnations - has been in New York since 1879, the spirit and character of these four venues has changed, thus they must be considered individually.
What makes these comments significant is that the book in which they appear - Yankee Stadium: The Final Season, The Official Retrospective - was licensed by and created in partnership with the New York Yankees. In fact, one of the book’s authors, Alfred Santasiere III, is the Yankees' Director of Publications - and he wrote the words that I quoted, which makes it an official statement from the Yankees.
So, if it’s true that the spirit and character of the four Madison Square Gardens have changed and must be considered as separate entities, then it’s equally true for the two Yankee Stadiums.
dabigyankeeman
05-30-2009, 09:31 AM
So, if it’s true that the spirit and character of the four Madison Square Gardens have changed and must be considered as separate entities, then it’s equally true for the two Yankee Stadiums.
Absolutely true. You can no longer talk about the history and tradition of Yankee Stadium except if you are talking about the one being torn down. You can NOT transfer that history, tradition, feelings, etc. to the new stadium.
Now, you CAN talk about the Yankee TEAM traditions, but NOT the new stadium as it has no history or tradition.
It breaks my heart.
Yankeefan3783
05-30-2009, 02:50 PM
I'm thinking of getting tickets a little closer to the field then I normally get. I found a pair of tickets, Field Level Outfield, Section 136, Row 14 for $69 each. Anyone sit in that section or near it? Good price for those seats?
Rob R
05-30-2009, 04:22 PM
I'm thinking of getting tickets a little closer to the field then I normally get. I found a pair of tickets, Field Level Outfield, Section 136, Row 14 for $69 each. Anyone sit in that section or near it? Good price for those seats?
If you don't mind back-less seats, the bleachers would be a much better value. Section 136 Row 14 isn't far from the bleachers anyway, and you won't be that much closer to the field. For around $40-$50 less, you can get seats in 236, 235 or any bleacher seat. Just don't get them in 201 and 239, or else you might get a seat with the CF restaurant obstruction.
I sat in the bleachers one game and they are great, much better than RYS's bleacher seats. Not sure if you bought those $69 tickets yet, you didn't say, but if you did, you'll have a great time anyway.
threeyoda
05-30-2009, 07:50 PM
Absolutely true. You can no longer talk about the history and tradition of Yankee Stadium except if you are talking about the one being torn down. You can NOT transfer that history, tradition, feelings, etc. to the new stadium.
Now, you CAN talk about the Yankee TEAM traditions, but NOT the new stadium as it has no history or tradition.
It breaks my heart.
Eventually though, you will be able to talk about the history tradition of both Yankee Stadiums. The old one will always have a special place in everyone's heart, while the new one will eventually find a way in. But to do that we need a championship and new front office staff
Cool Papa B.
05-30-2009, 08:15 PM
Eventually though, you will be able to talk about the history tradition of both Yankee Stadiums. The old one will always have a special place in everyone's heart, while the new one will eventually find a way in. But to do that we need a championship and new front office staff
A championship, Yes. New front office staff......I don't think so!
threeyoda
05-30-2009, 08:37 PM
A championship, Yes. New front office staff......I don't think so!
Well then we need the current front office staff to lower prices on EVERYTHING in the stadium (seats, food, merchandise, clubs etc.) and to ease up on regulations (BP, clubs, security).
Cool Papa B.
05-30-2009, 09:06 PM
Well then we need the current front office staff to lower prices on EVERYTHING in the stadium (seats, food, merchandise, clubs etc.) and to ease up on regulations (BP, clubs, security).
I agree. Those are things that can be easily corrected. And that will come with time. Remember every new stadium has kinks to be worked out. Fans have to just keep complaining to the right people.
GO YANKEES!!!!!!
jimmyjimjimz
05-30-2009, 09:20 PM
I won't be able to go to the game due to obligations that weekend. Can I have your stadium replica? :waving
Well, you can't have mine, but if my brother doesn't want his, I can possibly give it to you if he doesnt give it to my dad.
A championship, Yes. New front office staff......I don't think so!
I think SOME of the front office staff should go. At least 2 of them. And I have 2 of them in mind actually. Lon Trost, and Randy Levine. I believe theyre the reasons Joe Torre was forced out.
CrazyMind2017
05-30-2009, 09:56 PM
So, if it’s true that the spirit and character of the four Madison Square Gardens have changed and must be considered as separate entities, then it’s equally true for the two Yankee Stadiums.Exactly right! That's why Jeter had to pass Gehrig for most hits in Yankee Stadium last year. The career stats don't carry over.
The fact that the stats carried over during the 1974-75 renovation is yet more evidence that the original Yankee Stadium is being torn down, not a rebuilt 1970s cookie cutter that new stadium proponents conveniently like to believe it is. If Yankee Stadium wasn't really Yankee Stadium anymore after 1973, then the records shouldn't have carried over.
Cool Papa B.
05-31-2009, 08:43 AM
I think SOME of the front office staff should go. At least 2 of them. And I have 2 of them in mind actually. Lon Trost, and Randy Levine. I believe theyre the reasons Joe Torre was forced out.
Joe Torre's time had come. No one forced him out. His managerial skills were exposed.
Strawman
05-31-2009, 11:09 AM
A championship, Yes. New front office staff......I don't think so!
Oh c'mon - the plutocratic, anti-baseball, New York fan-hating, moat-erecting, tradition-despising, bombast-loving, ticky-tacky Atlantic City definition of "class" embracing, Giuliani-styling, children-dissing front-office staff has become the embarrassment of all of baseball - they need to go.
Strawman
05-31-2009, 11:10 AM
Joe Torre's time had come. No one forced him out. His managerial skills were exposed.
Yeah Mr. Cool - "exposed" as the best manager of his generation!
Anubis2051
05-31-2009, 11:13 AM
Oh c'mon - the plutocratic, anti-baseball, New York fan-hating, moat-erecting, tradition-despising, bombast-loving, ticky-tacky Atlantic City definition of "class" embracing, Giuliani-styling, children-dissing front-office staff has become the embarrassment of all of baseball - they need to go.
Whats wrong with Rudy? If it wasn't for him, NYS would probably be in jersey, and the bronx would be a wasteland.
NYBase
05-31-2009, 11:33 AM
I usually don't agree with strawman but there's a lot wrong with Rudy.
Ok, no more political talk.
Strawman
05-31-2009, 02:45 PM
I usually don't agree with strawman but there's a lot wrong with Rudy.
Ok, no more political talk.
Word.
And he started the process that's ending in the sad, slow-motion, tortuous, immoral death of the greatest palace in the history of sports - a proud stadium older than the Empire State Building and just as iconic to the people of New York.
And his people now run the team.
dabigyankeeman
05-31-2009, 03:01 PM
Oh c'mon - the plutocratic, anti-baseball, New York fan-hating, moat-erecting, tradition-despising, bombast-loving, ticky-tacky Atlantic City definition of "class" embracing, Giuliani-styling, children-dissing front-office staff has become the embarrassment of all of baseball - they need to go.
But tell us how you really feel.......
Yankeefan3783
05-31-2009, 08:08 PM
If you don't mind back-less seats, the bleachers would be a much better value. Section 136 Row 14 isn't far from the bleachers anyway, and you won't be that much closer to the field. For around $40-$50 less, you can get seats in 236, 235 or any bleacher seat. Just don't get them in 201 and 239, or else you might get a seat with the CF restaurant obstruction.
I sat in the bleachers one game and they are great, much better than RYS's bleacher seats. Not sure if you bought those $69 tickets yet, you didn't say, but if you did, you'll have a great time anyway.
Thanks for the info. I haven't bought them yet, the game's in July, so I still have some time. I've only sat in the Grandstand so far at NYS, which I think are great seats for the price, especially Grandstand Dugout. But I'd like to change it up at least once this season and sit a little lower, so I think it'll come down to the bleachers or field level outfield.
YanksRule
05-31-2009, 08:21 PM
Thanks for the info. I haven't bought them yet, the game's in July, so I still have some time. I've only sat in the Grandstand so far at NYS, which I think are great seats for the price, especially Grandstand Dugout. But I'd like to change it up at least once this season and sit a little lower, so I think it'll come down to the bleachers or field level outfield.
I've sat in every level, and I actually think Main Level has a better view than Field Level because you get a little bit of height and perspective.. plus you can get the seats for cheaper.
Front Row of Field Level:
Wide Angle Main Level:
grandslamsingle
06-01-2009, 07:36 AM
Hi everyone -- quick question.
How far does the roof extend over the grandstand? I have tix for Thursday's game in Sec 421, Row 8. Will we be covered in case of rain?
Thanks!
Scooterville20
06-01-2009, 09:01 AM
Hi everyone -- quick question.
How far does the roof extend over the grandstand? I have tix for Thursday's game in Sec 421, Row 8. Will we be covered in case of rain?
Thanks!
You should be completely covered in case of rain. I sat in sec 423, row 8 for the April 22 game. It rained on and off all day and I was dry the entire game, all 14 innings/5 hours.
Have a great time at the game on Thursday.
tlakin
06-01-2009, 09:04 AM
You should be completely covered in case of rain. I sat in sec 423, row 8 for the April 22 game. It rained on and off all day and I was dry the entire game, all 14 innings/5 hours.
Have a great time at the game on Thursday.
Whoa whoa whoa... there may be a problem. It's not all covered. It's definitely not nearly as covered as the old stadium. Those seats should be fine, but it's not a guarantee.
Yankees12
06-01-2009, 09:22 AM
Row 8 of the Grandstand is indeed well beneath the overhead roof. It's only the first few rows that aren't. I sat there on a rainy night and didn't get wet at all.
The roof at NYS is actually slightly bigger than the roof at RYS. It also doesn't have nearly as much of an upward slant to it, so it protects fans from the elements better.
Scooterville20
06-01-2009, 09:34 AM
Whoa whoa whoa... there may be a problem. It's not all covered. It's definitely not nearly as covered as the old stadium. Those seats should be fine, but it's not a guarantee.
True, there is no guarantee. You're right, the entire 400 section is not covered and I did not sit in sec 421 but I do know that row 8 was completely covered where I sat. From about row 6 and up it was dry.
tlakin
06-01-2009, 09:42 AM
Row 8 of the Grandstand is indeed well beneath the overhead roof. It's only the first few rows that aren't. I sat there on a rainy night and didn't get wet at all.
The roof at NYS is actually slightly bigger than the roof at RYS. It also doesn't have nearly as much of an upward slant to it, so it protects fans from the elements better.
OK, that's good. I remember going and thinking that there is now a lot less covering, particularly in the Main section (We used to get Main level seats, just a few rows up, and we'd be covered perfectly... now Main isn't covered, AND it's up an entire level!)
MarthaT
06-01-2009, 09:51 AM
Yanks, thanks for those pics. It does appear the main level has a better vantage point
tlakin
06-01-2009, 09:58 AM
Yanks, thanks for those pics. It does appear the main level has a better vantage point
Better vantage point, but you're not on the ground like you were in the old stadium, and yet you're paying a pretty high price for Main level seats.
YanksRule
06-01-2009, 01:23 PM
Better vantage point, but you're not on the ground like you were in the old stadium, and yet you're paying a pretty high price for Main level seats.
True, but is it really worth to pay more just to be on the "ground" even if the view is better higher up?
I personally don't think it's worth it unless you are in the first 5-10 rows or so, and then it's great not for watching the game but more the "wow, I'm almost in the front row, this is awesome" factor
EDIT: Of course, once you're in the field level seats, there is no real security there to keep you from moving down to empty seats in the front of the field level... :shhh:
Yankeefan3783
06-01-2009, 01:53 PM
True, there is no guarantee. You're right, the entire 400 section is not covered and I did not sit in sec 421 but I do know that row 8 was completely covered where I sat. From about row 6 and up it was dry.
Correct. I sat in Sec 425, row 5 recently and it was just exposed to the rain. Row 6 was dry though.
jimmyjimjimz
06-01-2009, 02:12 PM
Joe Torre's time had come. No one forced him out. His managerial skills were exposed.
um..........aren't the Dodgers in first place? With like the best record in the NL?
Cool Papa B.
06-01-2009, 02:34 PM
um..........aren't the Dodgers in first place? With like the best record in the NL?
umm......If my father's 60 & over softball team played in the NL West Division they would have the best record in baseball also.
Gehrig27
06-01-2009, 02:34 PM
um..........aren't the Dodgers in first place? With like the best record in the NL?
They are, and Joe has a good team over there, but being in first place in the NL west is like being the tallest of the seven dwarfs.
jimmyjimjimz
06-01-2009, 03:42 PM
They are, and Joe has a good team over there, but being in first place in the NL west is like being the tallest of the seven dwarfs.
But it's still first place
threeyoda
06-01-2009, 03:52 PM
But it's still first place
What Cool Papa is saying is that if the Dodgers were in the AL or NL East, they would be in 4th or 5th place.
baseballman1243
06-01-2009, 04:49 PM
Hi everyone -- quick question.
How far does the roof extend over the grandstand? I have tix for Thursday's game in Sec 421, Row 8. Will we be covered in case of rain?
Thanks!
See for yourself. This is taken from row 12.
Cool Papa B.
06-01-2009, 07:02 PM
Hey guys. Don't mean to go off subject, but Joba pitched great tonight!!! I've never seen him throw all four of his pitches for strikes. And that fastball....high 90's!!! WOW!!! At first I was totally against him being in the starting rotation. I mean if he went back to the bullpen today he would be the best set up man in baseball!!!! But seeing him tonight I see what the scouts mean when they say he could be an ace!!! What a good enigma to have in one guy. I just don't know with him anymore.
nymdan
06-01-2009, 07:42 PM
Hey guys. Don't mean to go off subject, but Joba pitched great tonight!!! I've never seen him throw all four of his pitches for strikes. And that fastball....high 90's!!! WOW!!! At first I was totally against him being in the starting rotation. I mean if he went back to the bullpen today he would be the best set up man in baseball!!!! But seeing him tonight I see what the scouts mean when they say he could be an ace!!! What a good enigma to have in one guy. I just don't know with him anymore.
Without having watched the Yankee game... it all depends on being able to do that on a regular basis. Every time someone says "Joba needs to be in the bullpen," I think what if Santana (or any great starting pitcher) was made into a closer? It'd be a waste. If the Yankees determine he can be a decent starter but dominate in the bullpen, he should be in the pen. If he can pitch 7 or 8 innings each time out and only give up a run or two, he should probably be in the rotation.
Cool Papa B.
06-01-2009, 08:43 PM
So the Yankees set a major league record with 18 consecutive errorless games. That's a surprise to me. I was expecting the record to be like 30 or 40 games in a row. And I expected it to be a national league team from the 1960's (the decade of the pitcher) like the Cardinals, Dodgers or Giants. 18 games in a row seems small to me.
applenut
06-01-2009, 09:40 PM
So the Yankees set a major league record with 18 consecutive errorless games. That's a surprise to me. I was expecting the record to be like 30 or 40 games in a row. And I expected it to be a national league team from the 1960's (the decade of the pitcher) like the Cardinals, Dodgers or Giants. 18 games in a row seems small to me.
Ever play baseball? 18 games in a row without an error is pretty incredible.
Cool Papa B.
06-01-2009, 09:50 PM
Ever play baseball? 18 games in a row without an error is pretty incredible.
I played baseball from little league to high school and part of college. So yes I've played the game. I just expected the record to be more than that. Especially during that era in baseball where the pitcher was dominate (1960's). Usually when you have good pitching the defense is good also.And it was common for teams to take mandatory fielding practice after batting practice back then also. By the 1970's fielding practice became more and more uncommon. And now today you hardly ever see it.
Anubis2051
06-01-2009, 10:21 PM
Ever play baseball? 18 games in a row without an error is pretty incredible.
haha for some reason reading this made that scene from 61* pop into my head.
Artie, you ever play baseball?
No, Never
Great movie!
jimmyjimjimz
06-01-2009, 10:54 PM
haha for some reason reading this made that scene from 61* pop into my head.
Artie, you ever play baseball?
No, Never
Great movie!
You HAD TO mention that movie, did ya?
COLTS7
06-02-2009, 05:38 AM
I do think there are a few things that favor fielders today. The technology of the gloves today is much better, and the field conditions across the board are far better. Both are a big improvements when compared to the 50's, 60s, 70's.
I have to agree with the poster who said 18 games of errorless ball is a lot. When you think of all the total chances over an 18 game span and the speed at which the game is played, I think 18 games is a lot. It amazes me when you see a SS make less than 10 errors over a total season. That's an extremely hard thing to do. The speed at which the game is played at the pro level I think is very much underappreciated by the average fan.
Cool Papa B.
06-02-2009, 06:07 AM
I do think there are a few things that favor fielders today. The technology of the gloves today is much better, and the field conditions across the board are far better. Both are a big improvements when compared to the 50's, 60s, 70's.
I have to agree with the poster who said 18 games of errorless ball is a lot. When you think of all the total chances over an 18 game span and the speed at which the game is played, I think 18 games is a lot. It amazes me when you see a SS make less than 10 errors over a total season. That's an extremely hard thing to do. The speed at which the game is played at the pro level I think is very much underappreciated by the average fan.
Without a doubt the facilities and the tecnology the ball players have today is better than the ones available during the 60's and early 70's. But the ball player back then was just more fundamentally sound. Fielding practice before a game wasn't an option it was mandatory. And the speed of the game has actually slowed down. Up until the early 70's the avg. ball game was about 2 hours. Today is like 3+ hours. Maybe the change in the design of the bat allows today's hitter to swing and hit the ball harder; and thus the ball gets to the players quicker; and thus the fielders reflexes might have to be faster. But I don't know. That can be argued all day and night.
I do agree with you though that if a SS has less than 10 errors in a season, he would be considered a great fielder.
SparkyL
06-02-2009, 06:47 AM
Hey guys. Don't mean to go off subject, but Joba pitched great tonight!!! I've never seen him throw all four of his pitches for strikes. And that fastball....high 90's!!! WOW!!! At first I was totally against him being in the starting rotation. I mean if he went back to the bullpen today he would be the best set up man in baseball!!!! But seeing him tonight I see what the scouts mean when they say he could be an ace!!! What a good enigma to have in one guy. I just don't know with him anymore.
CPB - now everyone's off topic :(
Cool Papa B.
06-02-2009, 07:11 AM
CPB - now everyone's off topic :(
Sorry dude!!! I'm just so juiced about how good the Yankees defense is.
Okay back on topic. I'm going to the game on Friday against the Rays. If you or anypne have any picture requests just let me know.
YankeeFanBx
06-02-2009, 07:56 AM
Sorry dude!!! I'm just so juiced about how good the Yankees defense is.
Okay back on topic. I'm going to the game on Friday against the Rays. If you or anypne have any picture requests just let me know.
The guy at 1st has really helped the D.
Going to the game on Sun. sitting for the first time in terr sec. Will be in 330, how are these seats?
RationalNYYfan
06-02-2009, 08:23 AM
The guy at 1st has really helped the D.
Going to the game on Sun. sitting for the first time in terr sec. Will be in 330, how are these seats?
I sat in Terrace Section 305 for a bit, and I loved the view. I can't say much for the opposite side of the field, but you will definitely have nice seats.
Cool Papa B.
06-02-2009, 08:29 AM
Question to everyone:
Has anyone taken the tour of NYS? If so how was it and what areas of NYS did they take you to?
And has anyone taken the MetroNorth to NYS yet? If so how good or hassel free was the ride?And how quick is the ride from Grand Central?
tlakin
06-02-2009, 08:33 AM
I do think there are a few things that favor fielders today. The technology of the gloves today is much better, and the field conditions across the board are far better. Both are a big improvements when compared to the 50's, 60s, 70's.
I have to agree with the poster who said 18 games of errorless ball is a lot. When you think of all the total chances over an 18 game span and the speed at which the game is played, I think 18 games is a lot. It amazes me when you see a SS make less than 10 errors over a total season. That's an extremely hard thing to do. The speed at which the game is played at the pro level I think is very much underappreciated by the average fan.
I think casual fans think defense is easy, and they don't really notice errors in box scores. Also, we hear of players with very long errorless streaks - just makes 18 sound like not that long
YanksRule
06-02-2009, 11:35 AM
CPB - now everyone's off topic :(
I have a lot of photos that I will try to post tonight of NYS, RYS,the Yankees MNR station, and the parking lot rooftop park that is now open
threeyoda
06-02-2009, 01:36 PM
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Yankeefan3783
06-02-2009, 01:47 PM
Question to everyone:
Has anyone taken the tour of NYS? If so how was it and what areas of NYS did they take you to?
And has anyone taken the MetroNorth to NYS yet? If so how good or hassel free was the ride?And how quick is the ride from Grand Central?
I'm taking MetroNorth to Saturday's game, but I'm taking it from Fairfield.
FlushingFan102
06-02-2009, 01:54 PM
Quick question from a Mets fan who like many other Mets fans will be making my first trip to the new place for the first Mets game on the 12th. Since itll be my first time there this year, and since my team is playing I dont really want to miss much of the game touring the park, but i would like to see as much as i could. Im going to be sure to arrive early, but since i have a limited time for my first "tour", what are the places in the park that are an absolute must see, and what are the places that it would be no big deal if i skipped over until i visit the park later in the summer? Which concourses should i be sure to visit and which enterance should i be sure to use (Gate 4 for the main enterance feel, or gate 6 because it spills directly into the great hall). Also since ill only be there one game, what is the one NYS food item that I absolutley must not leave the park without having?
Thanks!
threeyoda
06-02-2009, 02:00 PM
Quick question from a Mets fan who like many other Mets fans will be making my first trip to the new place for the first Mets game on the 12th. Since itll be my first time there this year, and since my team is playing I dont really want to miss much of the game touring the park, but i would like to see as much as i could. Im going to be sure to arrive early, but since i have a limited time for my first "tour", what are the places in the park that are an absolute must see, and what are the places that it would be no big deal if i skipped over until i visit the park later in the summer? Which concourses should i be sure to visit and which enterance should i be sure to use (Gate 4 for the main enterance feel, or gate 6 because it spills directly into the great hall). Also since ill only be there one game, what is the one NYS food item that I absolutley must not leave the park without having?
Thanks!
Deffintly go see the Great Hall. I prefer either Gate 6 or 8. With Gate 8 you can sanp some pictures from the CF food court, get some food along the field level concourse, and you can enter into the Graet Hall right near Gate 6. It's a truely amazing feeling walkind from the concourse into the 7-story open-air room with huge banners of Yankee greats, a huge video board and tons of people. The museum is best during the game, and if you enter through Gate 8, the Monument Park enterance is right there.
Yankeefan3783
06-02-2009, 02:01 PM
Quick question from a Mets fan who like many other Mets fans will be making my first trip to the new place for the first Mets game on the 12th. Since itll be my first time there this year, and since my team is playing I dont really want to miss much of the game touring the park, but i would like to see as much as i could. Im going to be sure to arrive early, but since i have a limited time for my first "tour", what are the places in the park that are an absolute must see, and what are the places that it would be no big deal if i skipped over until i visit the park later in the summer? Which concourses should i be sure to visit and which enterance should i be sure to use (Gate 4 for the main enterance feel, or gate 6 because it spills directly into the great hall). Also since ill only be there one game, what is the one NYS food item that I absolutley must not leave the park without having?
Thanks!
The stadium opens 3 hours before the game, not sure if you'll be there that early. Monument Park and the Yankees Museum might be the number 1 things to see at NYS, but the lines are so long that if you do get to see one of them, it might be the only thing you tour. So far, I haven't been inside either one.
I would take a walk on the lower concourse around the whole stadium, visiting the picnic area in center field, picking up some Carl's Cheesesteak's (my food of choice there) and eating them out there. You can't go wrong going in either Gate 4 or Gate 6.
YanksRule
06-02-2009, 02:25 PM
Has anyone taken the MetroNorth to NYS yet? If so how good or hassel free was the ride?And how quick is the ride from Grand Central?
13 minutes.
http://as0.mta.info/mnr/schedules/sched_form.cfm
YanksRule
06-02-2009, 02:27 PM
The stadium opens 3 hours before the game, not sure if you'll be there that early. Monument Park and the Yankees Museum might be the number 1 things to see at NYS, but the lines are so long that if you do get to see one of them, it might be the only thing you tour. So far, I haven't been inside either one.
I would take a walk on the lower concourse around the whole stadium, visiting the picnic area in center field, picking up some Carl's Cheesesteak's (my food of choice there) and eating them out there. You can't go wrong going in either Gate 4 or Gate 6.
The museum lines are usually short to non-existent during the game. You miss an inning or so, but you are in and out and you can see the game on a tv they have there.
mandrake
06-02-2009, 02:48 PM
The museum lines are usually short to non-existent during the game. You miss an inning or so, but you are in and out and you can see the game on a tv they have there.
OK, I am bragging a bit here....but I was given a tour of the Yankees museum by a Yankees employee before the game vs Tampa on May 7th. After that she asked if I wanted to see Monument Park too, but I declined (did not want to push it) and then she led us to our special upgraded seats....Section 120, where she instructed the staff to 'close the curtains' behind us. Ahhh, the good life. :happy:
BTW, I am trying to upload some pictures here including my April 30th trip to the Audi Club. The key word is trying....:mad:
SparkyL
06-02-2009, 02:52 PM
OK, I am bragging a bit here....but I was given a tour of the Yankees museum by a Yankees employee before the game vs Tampa on May 7th. After that she asked if I wanted to see Monument Park too, but I declined (did not want to push it) and then she led us to our special upgraded seats....Section 120, where she instructed the staff to 'close the curtains' behind us. Ahhh, the good life. :happy:
BTW, I am trying to upload some pictures here including my April 30th trip to the Audi Club. The key word is trying....:mad:
So the question is . . . why/how did you get special updated seats? I didn't see that option on the ticketmaster.com dropdown list.
Coach Bombay
06-02-2009, 03:00 PM
They just showed a view of Yankee Stadium behind the plate on YES, and I'm pretty sure they painted below the Modells and State Farm ads in front of the bleachers.
Coach Bombay
06-02-2009, 03:01 PM
They just showed a view of Yankee Stadium behind the plate on YES, and I'm pretty sure they painted below the Modells and State Farm ads in front of the bleachers.
Yup... they did, you can see it on the Yankees batting practice show.
threeyoda
06-02-2009, 03:03 PM
The wall look's good!
Coach Bombay
06-02-2009, 03:07 PM
Still think they need to do the same with the bare concrete walls on the sides of the sports bar, I think they'll eventually get to that.
threeyoda
06-02-2009, 03:10 PM
Still think they need to do the same with the bare concrete walls on the sides of the sports bar, I think they'll eventually get to that.
Yes, they do.
threeyoda
06-02-2009, 03:52 PM
I thought this was a great tribute video. Just click on the first link in my signiture. (Yankee Stadium Tribute)
04golf
06-02-2009, 06:36 PM
Any more pictures of monument park? Is it dark underneath the resturant? You sometimes cant see the plaques on the back wall in pictures.
VAPYankees4
06-02-2009, 06:41 PM
.........nvm
threeyoda
06-02-2009, 06:55 PM
Any more pictures of monument park? Is it dark underneath the resturant? You sometimes cant see the plaques on the back wall in pictures.
It is very bright, and does NOT feel closed in, dark, or cave-like. It is 1000 times bigger and better than the old monument park. Plus there is a raised path where you can see the field. If those pictures were taken after Monument Park closed, it's because a roll-down tarp covers them.
trueblue9441
06-02-2009, 07:18 PM
did michael kay just say 33,000 at the stadium tonight?
nevermind, he apparently cant read.. 43,948 at the stadium tonight
mandrake
06-02-2009, 07:22 PM
So the question is . . . why/how did you get special updated seats? I didn't see that option on the ticketmaster.com dropdown list.
SparkyL, I had a very long post about this a few weeks ago when the Yanks were playing poorly and the media was bashing them constantly! At the risk if bugging folks, here it is again!
Long Story Alert about 5/7/09
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I had 2 tickets baseline box for Mets-Phils.But my wife says she is getting some nursing award and wanted me to go with her. Fine. Unable to sell tickets for decent price, I give them away. Fine. Then my wife said awards nite is postponed. The tickets are gone. Sulking, and feeling sorry for myself, I look at stubhub and see tickets hitting rock bottom for Yankees game. I purchase 2 tickets field level sec 130 row 26 for $15 each. Yippee !! I ask my dad if he wants to go as he can't recall when was the last decade he went. I send an email to the Yankees stating that I see a Wheelchair area behind sec 130 and ask if my dad and I can sit there so my dad does not have to use stairs or get up and down for others in the row.
I get a reply from the Yankees management and it says for me to call this number when I reach whatever gate I arrive at and someone will meet me to discuss. I show up at Gate 4, show one of the 'helpers' outside the email.....they immediately lead me in to Guest services, who call the 'honcho' on the phone. Two well dressed professional people show up, introduce themselves and act like I am their long lost best friend. The person in charge is a lady who takes us on a personal tour of the Yankees Museum (via private elevator ride, of course) and then back to the lobby where she tells me my seats were now in SECTION 120 and leads us there and tells the staff that we will be sitting directly behind home plate in that DAP row. The curtain gets closed behind us so the great unwashed don't bug us
and we enjoy the game in our new $350 seats. A staff member named Theresa stays with us for the game. She is pleasant and knowledgeable and aks me if I have been to the new Mets park. I said yes and she said she will be going there soon. She also said she disliked the name Citi and wished the Mets would have reused the Polo Grounds name since she recalled when the Mets played 'across the river'. My dad and I laughed out loud at her suggestion, and she didn't get the joke.
I can not begin to tell you how well we were treated there all night. I told the 'honcho' that I wished I could use her name and tell the world what she did for us, but she politely asked that I don't use it in print or online. I would love to tell my story in full on Fatso Francesa's show, but he would cut me off and start kissing the Red Sox @$$ again.
The Yankees treated us so well, that even my dad rooted for them tonite. He said it would be rude to root against people who took care of us. This is from a person who still whines about the Dodgers losing to the Yankee's in the 1941 WS on a passed ball.....yet he could put aside 70 years of Yankee hating because of how nice the Yankees treated us.
The Yankees will make the new Stadium work. The employees are going out of their way to help. Obviously, a lot of people were in the legends seats that probably did not pay for them, as I did NOT pay for my $350 seats either.
Who would have thought there was so much love in Da Bronx?????
SparkyL
06-02-2009, 07:50 PM
SparkyL, I had a very long post about this a few weeks ago when the Yanks were playing poorly and the media was bashing them constantly! At the risk if bugging folks, here it is again!
Duh - I remember now . . . btw, how's the Audi Club pic upload coming?
Philtration
06-02-2009, 07:52 PM
Nice!
The place looks great at night.
I thought that the wall of ads was going to be too much but at night it actually looks ok.
Anubis2051
06-02-2009, 08:08 PM
Hey guys, going to the game thursday, I'll be sure to get pictures of the newly painted walls in the OF. Does anyone have any requests for pics?
YanksRule
06-02-2009, 09:56 PM
I got to NYS/RYS on Saturday, as well as the Metro North Station, and the parking lot rooftop park (Phase 1 is now complete- a soccer field with a makeshift track.. the field is really nice), and took a ton of photos (I'll post RYS photos in the demolition thread):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20503670@N05/sets/72157619089480505/
From the rooftop park:
From the Metro North Station:
The ticketbooth microphones were already broken (or never completed):
They were fixing the concrete in Babe Ruth Plaza:
There are a ton more of NYS, RYS, the park and MNR station full-size here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20503670@N05/sets/72157619089480505/
BTW.. jeeze this site is popular, or these pictures are being linked somewhere.. in 20 minutes (at 1 am on a weeknight) I'm already at like 800 views
Anubis2051
06-02-2009, 10:30 PM
It'd be really cool if they could put some kinda Yankee Mural on this wall like they have over behind stans:
Gary Dunaier
06-02-2009, 10:57 PM
It'd be really cool if they could put some kinda Yankee Mural on this wall like they have over behind stans
That would be up to GAL Manufacturing (http://www.gal.com/content/default.htm), the company that occupies the building.
NYBase
06-02-2009, 11:03 PM
It'd be really cool if they could put some kinda Yankee Mural on this wall like they have over behind stans:
I think ads are more likely. :mad:
Cool Papa B.
06-02-2009, 11:47 PM
Nice pics YanksRule. Great job. The new MacCombs park looks nice. My only problem is the artificial turf. I know it's easier to maintain but I read somewhere that playing on art. turf long term can lead to chronic back and knee pain. I would hate to see all those kids in the neighborhood playing on that surface and then end up with that problem later on in life. I know the new art. turf used these days are supposed to be more grass like and better for the knees and back. But hey you'll never know.
RationalNYYfan
06-03-2009, 04:00 AM
Hey guys, going to the game thursday, I'll be sure to get pictures of the newly painted walls in the OF. Does anyone have any requests for pics?
Get a picture of the Great Hall from the vantage point of the Terrace/Grandstand level ramp, just for your own sake. It makes for a really nice picture!
Anubis2051
06-03-2009, 06:42 AM
Nice pics YanksRule. Great job. The new MacCombs park looks nice. My only problem is the artificial turf. I know it's easier to maintain but I read somewhere that playing on art. turf long term can lead to chronic back and knee pain. I would hate to see all those kids in the neighborhood playing on that surface and then end up with that problem later on in life. I know the new art. turf used these days are supposed to be more grass like and better for the knees and back. But hey you'll never know.
Yup, turf sucks. Had it in High School, used to hate running on it. The worst though was turf burn - thats what you call it when you fall or slide on the turf and burn your skin - I got that more then a few times and it wasn't pleasant.
YanksRule
06-03-2009, 06:55 AM
Nice pics YanksRule. Great job. The new MacCombs park looks nice. My only problem is the artificial turf. I know it's easier to maintain but I read somewhere that playing on art. turf long term can lead to chronic back and knee pain. I would hate to see all those kids in the neighborhood playing on that surface and then end up with that problem later on in life. I know the new art. turf used these days are supposed to be more grass like and better for the knees and back. But hey you'll never know.
Ya know, I didn't even remember that they were using turf and not grass till you said that... The field was great with a little "squishiness" that a really good grass field has. I think the only way turf could cause back and knee pain is if it had no give like old astroturf did. Then every bit of shock from running would be absorbed by the knee and back. I'm no doctor, but assuming the field stays as squishy as it is now, I think everyone will be fine.
04golf
06-03-2009, 07:10 AM
I am attending my first game at NYS tonight! :dance
SparkyL
06-03-2009, 07:26 AM
Let's stop the "turf" conversation before we have several pages of posts on it.
Back to NYS - has anyone figured out why they turned off the bank of lights behind each foul pole? It looks like those banks are dead.
They were on for the Cubs games -my guess is they are distracting to someone (umps calls fair/foul on HRs?). But they were on in RYS . . .
mandrake
06-03-2009, 08:40 AM
Here are some shots from the Audi Club. There is one of the Budweiser area too next door. The cost is a little steep, but the food is great. There are e-savers available for some games where the tickets are discounted $40.
In my next group of pictures, I will show some field level shots. When I took one of the 'curtain area' shots, little did I know I would be on the other side of the curtain exactly one week later. I guess they need it to avoid distracting the pitcher (?) but your opinion of the curtain depends on which side of the curtain you are on.
mandrake
06-03-2009, 08:48 AM
Like I stated, one's opinion of the curtain depends on what side of the curtain you end up on !
tiscipa165
06-03-2009, 08:56 AM
Let's stop the "turf" conversation before we have several pages of posts on it.
Back to NYS - has anyone figured out why they turned off the bank of lights behind each foul pole? It looks like those banks are dead.
They were on for the Cubs games -my guess is they are distracting to someone (umps calls fair/foul on HRs?). But they were on in RYS . . .
I remember Teixera saying he had difficulties seeing throws from third and short due to the lights during the Friday night Cub game.
SparkyL
06-03-2009, 09:27 AM
I remember Teixera saying he had difficulties seeing throws from third and short due to the lights during the Friday night Cub game.
I wonder why Donnie and Tino never had this problem in RYS, and why the also turned off the RF side. Plus it's only a small section of lights - covering only a small "section" of the infield.
YankeeFanBx
06-03-2009, 11:06 AM
Did anyone mention the walls in the outfield are now blue?
I know the left field sections are 135 and 136, don't know off hand what they are in right. It looks much better, improvements will be made all season I suspect.
Or, am I late on this?
80SHOCK
06-03-2009, 11:39 AM
When are they adding the 6 more tv's on the side of the Mohegan Bar like Lonn Trost said they would?
Jim Vaz
06-03-2009, 12:07 PM
I understand it for business meetings, you want to impress clients or new business, so thats why you would go to these Audi Clubs, or the one they have at Citi, but really why would any common baseball fan want to go to these clubs?
Maybe I'm just obtuse and not seeing it right, but as a pure baseball fan, even if I'm wealthy beyond belief, I'm sitting at my seat behind home plate watching the game at the worst. Why would I want to be in a 5 star restaurant at a ball game??
Cool Papa B.
06-03-2009, 12:43 PM
I understand it for business meetings, you want to impress clients or new business, so thats why you would go to these Audi Clubs, or the one they have at Citi, but really why would any common baseball fan want to go to these clubs?
Maybe I'm just obtuse and not seeing it right, but as a pure baseball fan, even if I'm wealthy beyond belief, I'm sitting at my seat behind home plate watching the game at the worst. Why would I want to be in a 5 star restaurant at a ball game??
I sat in the Audi Club for the 4/17/2009 game against Cleveland. The place was awesome. the all you can eat food was great and we had a great time. But I agree with you Jim. We sat there for the experience; to see what it was like. But I felt a little detached from the game. When I go to a game I want to sit with fellow fans and cheer on my team and make sure they hear me cheering. I'll sit in the Audi & Mohegan Sun club every now and then, but not for every game
brooklyndodger14
06-03-2009, 12:43 PM
Nice pics YanksRule. Great job. The new MacCombs park looks nice. My only problem is the artificial turf. I know it's easier to maintain but I read somewhere that playing on art. turf long term can lead to chronic back and knee pain. I would hate to see all those kids in the neighborhood playing on that surface and then end up with that problem later on in life. I know the new art. turf used these days are supposed to be more grass like and better for the knees and back. But hey you'll never know.
The very sad (and possibly health hazardous) aspect of the artifical turf, is there is no heat dissipation on the (rubber-based?) surface which can make the field temparture actually reach 147 degrees!!! :ughh
Dennis
BrooklynDodger14
SparkyL
06-03-2009, 01:10 PM
The very sad (and possibly health hazardous) aspect of the artifical turf, is there is no heat dissipation on the (rubber-based?) surface which can make the field temparture actually reach 147 degrees!!! :ughh
Dennis
BrooklynDodger14
Enough resurrecting off-topic posts. Please.
I sat in the Audi Club for the 4/17/2009 game against Cleveland. The place was awesome. the all you can eat food was great and we had a great time. But I agree with you Jim. We sat there for the experience; to see what it was like. But I felt a little detached from the game. When I go to a game I want to sit with fellow fans and cheer on my team and make sure they hear me cheering. I'll sit in the Audi & Mohegan Sun club every now and then, but not for every game
There are two groups of people in these clubs. The first buy tickets for the front seating area and watch the game from there. The second are members who only spend a period of time (before/after the game, during rain delays, to cool off) and watch the game from their seats in the stands.
I agree that spending the entire game inside is not a great experience, but for members with "real" seats, it makes more sense.
yankees650B
06-03-2009, 02:18 PM
Nice!
The place looks great at night.
I thought that the wall of ads was going to be too much but at night it actually looks ok.
those pictures can't be from lat night. the bullpens are not painted yet.
yankees650B
06-03-2009, 02:21 PM
wow, i'm saorry i just noticed the opening day logos. my fault.
jerseyyankeefan
06-03-2009, 05:09 PM
Over time, they are adding more blue here and there, but they still need to have blue on the concrete ring that surrounds the interior levels. Right now they are bare concrete covered with those ugly metal railings. That is not very attractive at all.
Yankees12
06-03-2009, 07:13 PM
Over time, they are adding more blue here and there, but they still need to have blue on the concrete ring that surrounds the interior levels. Right now they are bare concrete covered with those ugly metal railings. That is not very attractive at all.
That's not concrete - it's limestone, the same exact limestone that's on the outside of the Stadium. It'll never be covered up - no reason to cover up highly expensive limestone.
SparkyL
06-03-2009, 07:19 PM
Over time, they are adding more blue here and there, but they still need to have blue on the concrete ring that surrounds the interior levels. Right now they are bare concrete covered with those ugly metal railings. That is not very attractive at all.
What do you mean by "concrete ring"? The walls of the consession areas?
And there is a chance that the white "concrete" and buff steel was chosen because Trost & company like it.
Also, I think that if they paint too much of the interior the dark blue, that wouldn't look so good either.
That's not concrete - it's limestone, the same exact limestone that's on the outside of the Stadium. It'll never be covered up - no reason to cover up highly expensive limestone.
Are you also talking about the brick interior walls? If so, I don't think that they are actually limestone but a decorative brick.
Yankees12
06-03-2009, 07:21 PM
Are you also talking about the brick interior walls? If so, I don't think that they are actually limestone but a decorative brick.
I was talking about the limestone behind the Legends suits in the so-called "moat." I think that's what he's talking about, not sure though.
SparkyL
06-03-2009, 07:47 PM
In the original model, the El spur intruded on the Gate 8 space, hence the need to have a low courtyard, and place the bleacher concourse facilities closer to the scoreboard.
But when they removed much of the spur (did they remove a section or was the model wrong?) they should have pushed those facilities back over the courtyard, which would have opened up that section of the bleacher concourse a lot.
80SHOCK
06-03-2009, 08:10 PM
What do you mean by "concrete ring"? The walls of the consession areas?
And there is a chance that the white "concrete" and buff steel was chosen because Trost & company like it.
Also, I think that if they paint too much of the interior the dark blue, that wouldn't look so good either.
Are you also talking about the brick interior walls? If so, I don't think that they are actually limestone but a decorative brick.
I've would have gone with a little darker brick. From afar the current one looks too much like concrete.
mandrake
06-03-2009, 09:17 PM
In the original model, the El spur intruded on the Gate 8 space, hence the need to have a low courtyard, and place the bleacher concourse facilities closer to the scoreboard.
But when they removed much of the spur (did they remove a section or was the model wrong?) they should have pushed those facilities back over the courtyard, which would have opened up that section of the bleacher concourse a lot.
I believe they removed the "El spur". That Spur was not in regular use since they discontinued the Polo Grounds shuttle in 1958.
Gary Dunaier
06-03-2009, 09:25 PM
In the original model, the El spur intruded on the Gate 8 space, hence the need to have a low courtyard, and place the bleacher concourse facilities closer to the scoreboard.
But when they removed much of the spur (did they remove a section or was the model wrong?) they should have pushed those facilities back over the courtyard, which would have opened up that section of the bleacher concourse a lot.
I completely forgot about that spur!!!!! That explains why Gate 8 doesn't have a roof.
(Photo taken May 16, 2009. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/3538384748/).)
04golf
06-03-2009, 11:01 PM
Quick review..I attended my first game tonight at NYS. First impression is its an impressive stadium and a great venue to attend a game. The great hall was grand, its just a hallway. I didnt notice anywhere to sit and hang. Some park benches inside could be nice. I had a bit of difficulty figuring out how to get to the terrace from the field level, the place is just big. There were alot of nice food options, I had a Johnny Rocket burger and fries, it was good. Alot of bathrooms w/ lots of stalls was an improvement over RYS. I sat in a terrace box row 2, sightlines were great. I was sitting right on the 3rd baseline by the foul poul and it was strange to see the foul pole not up against the facade of the upper deck. I miss RYS upper deck. Although it was steep and the aisle were narrow, it was grand and hung over the field. NYS upper deck seemed small to me and was push back too far. The center field scoreboard sometimes comes off as too large. I had trouble picking up the count/ info for the game at times. The screens change so much, the manual scoreboards were a good idea! The ribbon board is a bit much. Does it need to wrap around the whole upperdeck? All it shows are ads usually.
The frieze looked great at night, Monument park from the terrace looks large and you can see all the monuments from above. The plaques were coverd w/ a blue tarp. I didnt notice the resturant as much as I thought I would. If they paint both sides blue it will blend in and look unfinished. The prices were crazy..I saw $11 beers I payed $8.50 for mine. My burger w/ fries & a drink was $22. $9 for the burger $12 for a double. It was a good burger but you need to plan ahead to go to a ballgame now a days. All the concessioned are really really overpriced, even alot of the workers commented to me about how the prices are high and they dont even get a discount. Overall NYS is a great stadium, its def a fun time at the ballpark. Its meant to be a destination, a day at the ballpark. I dont mind the concept, I think NYS is better for the fan experience. I love the stadium, just dislike the way its run.
Coach Bombay
06-03-2009, 11:34 PM
Quick review..I attended my first game tonight at NYS. First impression is its an impressive stadium and a great venue to attend a game. The great hall was grand, its just a hallway. I didnt notice anywhere to sit and hang. Some park benches inside could be nice. I had a bit of difficulty figuring out how to get to the terrace from the field level, the place is just big. There were alot of nice food options, I had a Johnny Rocket burger and fries, it was good. Alot of bathrooms w/ lots of stalls was an improvement over RYS. I sat in a terrace box row 2, sightlines were great. I was sitting right on the 3rd baseline by the foul poul and it was strange to see the foul pole not up against the facade of the upper deck. I miss RYS upper deck. Although it was steep and the aisle were narrow, it was grand and hung over the field. NYS upper deck seemed small to me and was push back too far. The center field scoreboard sometimes comes off as too large. I had trouble picking up the count/ info for the game at times. The screens change so much, the manual scoreboards were a good idea! The ribbon board is a bit much. Does it need to wrap around the whole upperdeck? All it shows are ads usually.
The frieze looked great at night, Monument park from the terrace looks large and you can see all the monuments from above. The plaques were coverd w/ a blue tarp. I didnt notice the resturant as much as I thought I would. If they paint both sides blue it will blend in and look unfinished. The prices were crazy..I saw $11 beers I payed $8.50 for mine. My burger w/ fries & a drink was $22. $9 for the burger $12 for a double. It was a good burger but you need to plan ahead to go to a ballgame now a days. All the concessioned are really really overpriced, even alot of the workers commented to me about how the prices are high and they dont even get a discount. Overall NYS is a great stadium, its def a fun time at the ballpark. Its meant to be a destination, a day at the ballpark. I dont mind the concept, I think NYS is better for the fan experience. I love the stadium, just dislike the way its run.
The $11 dollar beer is a better value than the $8 dollar beer, not sure how many oz. it is, but comes in one of those big cups.
Rob R
06-04-2009, 01:25 AM
Aside from my split partials, as I've said, I'm going to explore and experience seats in all sections throughout NYS.
On Tuesday night (Yanks win 12-3!) I sat in the grandstand, section 423, row 3, which is pretty much directly in line with the pitcher. Whoever says that you're too far from the action or that it's worse than sitting at in the upper deck RYS couldn't have sat in these seats at NYS.
The sightline was absolutely amazing with a view of the entire park from corner to corner. At RYS, I wouldn't have been able to see a huge chunk of RF. At NYS, I felt like I was right on top of the action and the players didn't look like dots. A few times I've sat in the front rows of the upper deck at RYS and the distance to the field seemed similar, but the angle and view of the players and the field at NYS seems more natural.
I was able to roam freely up there, the ushers didn't check anyone's tickets, so I took in a half inning in the terrace, section 323, which is the lower section of the split upper deck, and let me tell you, it is far, far closer to the action than the upper deck at RYS, with a better view (no field obstructions) to boot. You are literally on top of the field and players. I'd go so far as to say that the terrace is an all around better experience than the old loge section at RYS, including having no roof above you to cut off fly balls and pop-ups.
This isn't the Citi vs NYS thread (which can't be taken too seriously), and not to rub it in Mets fan's faces, but this begs to be said, since it's always mentioned here or Citi's thread: I can now confirm firsthand that it is a myth that Citi Field seats are more intimate and bring you closer to the field than NYS. Last week I sat in the promenade - section 508, row 2 - at Citi Field, which would be comparable to the grandstand seats-- 423, row 2--I sat in at NYS on Tuesday. In my Citi "review" I mentioned how far away from the action I felt I was, that it seemed like I was miles away from the field, in another zip code. The players looked tiny and there were obstructions galore - from the staircase to parts of the field being cut-off.
Citi gives the "appearance" of being close to the action and more intimate, but that's not the reality. Instead, the stands at Citi are pushed further back from the field than they are at NYS. Even the field level seats at Citi seem to be pushed too far back, with barely a slope. As a matter of fact, the field level view from Citi's concourse is so far back that it's rendered unimpressive. At NYS the stands seem to be ABOVE and on top of the playing field and you feel more part of the game. At Citi Field you feel more distanced from the game. What's even more amazing is that Citi seats 10,000 less fans. I guess that's why Citi gives the "illusion" of being intimate and close to the action. It's not, or at least not as close as NYS. This isn't to say "my ballpark is better than yours," Citi is a nice, if not overly impressive park; it's just a valid comparison of similar seats I sat in at NYS and Citi within a week of one another.
I can't see how anyone who has sat in similar seats at both stadiums can disagree with me. If anyone has any doubts, I challenge them to sit in comparable sections at NYS and Citi, as I did, and judge for themselves.
nymdan
06-04-2009, 03:34 AM
Citi gives the "appearance" of being close to the action and more intimate, but that's not the reality. Instead, the stands at Citi are pushed further back from the field than they are at NYS. Even the field level seats at Citi seem to be pushed too far back, with barely a slope. As a matter of fact, the field level view from Citi's concourse is so far back that it's rendered unimpressive. At NYS the stands seem to be ABOVE and on top of the playing field and you feel more part of the game. At Citi Field you feel more distanced from the game. What's even more amazing is that Citi seats 10,000 less fans. I guess that's why Citi gives the "illusion" of being intimate and close to the action. It's not, or at least not as close as NYS. This isn't to say "my ballpark is better than yours," Citi is a nice, if not overly impressive park; it's just a valid comparison of similar seats I sat in at NYS and Citi within a week of one another.
I don't think this is the case. If anything, the front of the terrace and promenade box are approximately the same distance from the field.
At Yankee Stadium, the main level has basically no overhang over the field level, and the terrace hangs about halfway over the main level.
At Citi, the field level is bigger than the field level at Yankee Stadium, but the second level is smaller, and it hangs over the field level more. On top of that, the promenade box is basically directly on top of the excelsior level.
Rob R
06-04-2009, 06:35 AM
I don't think this is the case. If anything, the front of the terrace and promenade box are approximately the same distance from the field.
At Yankee Stadium, the main level has basically no overhang over the field level, and the terrace hangs about halfway over the main level.
At Citi, the field level is bigger than the field level at Yankee Stadium, but the second level is smaller, and it hangs over the field level more. On top of that, the promenade box is basically directly on top of the excelsior level.
I don't have the dimensions, but if I had to take an educated guess from seeing both ballparks in person, it appears that Citi's lower level is pushed further back than NYS's as NYS's field level seats have more of an upwards slope, whereas Citi's appears to be more level. I'm not sure, but it also seems like there are more rows of seats on the filed level at Citi. There is no doubt that the view from Citi's field level concourse is considerably further away from the playing field than NYS's concourse.
As a result, each successive overhang and level above the field level would follow suit. Hence, though the upper level might appear to dissect the lower level seats in the same spot at the respective parks, in actuality, Citi's levels might be pushed further back because of this. Again, this isn't scientific but more of a guess from what I saw and experienced. Height-wise, I'm sure that Citi's promenade seats are closer to the field than NYS' grandstand, given the smaller capacity, but, I believe, this is offset by Citi's promenade level being pushed further back. It's been only a week since I was at Citi and I didn't get the feeling that I was hovering over the field as much as I did at NYS.
This isn't a knock on Citi or praise for NYS, it's just that my expectations were different based on what I've read, my own assumptions and the appearances of both stadiums. I was surprised that NYS's grandstand was much closer than I would have thought and Citi's promenade more distant. I especially thought that I'd be on top of the action at Citi.
RationalNYYfan
06-04-2009, 08:22 AM
How are the mixed drinks and their prices at the martini bar? Has anybody gone there?
LI METS FAN
06-04-2009, 10:27 AM
Aside from my split partials, as I've said, I'm going to explore and experience seats in all sections throughout NYS.
On Tuesday night (Yanks win 12-3!) I sat in the grandstand, section 423, row 3, which is pretty much directly in line with the pitcher. Whoever says that you're too far from the action or that it's worse than sitting at in the upper deck RYS couldn't have sat in these seats at NYS.
The sightline was absolutely amazing with a view of the entire park from corner to corner. At RYS, I wouldn't have been able to see a huge chunk of RF. At NYS, I felt like I was right on top of the action and the players didn't look like dots. A few times I've sat in the front rows of the upper deck at RYS and the distance to the field seemed similar, but the angle and view of the players and the field at NYS seems more natural.
I was able to roam freely up there, the ushers didn't check anyone's tickets, so I took in a half inning in the terrace, section 323, which is the lower section of the split upper deck, and let me tell you, it is far, far closer to the action than the upper deck at RYS, with a better view (no field obstructions) to boot. You are literally on top of the field and players. I'd go so far as to say that the terrace is an all around better experience than the old loge section at RYS, including having no roof above you to cut off fly balls and pop-ups.
This isn't the Citi vs NYS thread (which can't be taken too seriously), and not to rub it in Mets fan's faces, but this begs to be said, since it's always mentioned here or Citi's thread: I can now confirm firsthand that it is a myth that Citi Field seats are more intimate and bring you closer to the field than NYS. Last week I sat in the promenade - section 508, row 2 - at Citi Field, which would be comparable to the grandstand seats-- 423, row 2--I sat in at NYS on Tuesday. In my Citi "review" I mentioned how far away from the action I felt I was, that it seemed like I was miles away from the field, in another zip code. The players looked tiny and there were obstructions galore - from the staircase to parts of the field being cut-off.
Citi gives the "appearance" of being close to the action and more intimate, but that's not the reality. Instead, the stands at Citi are pushed further back from the field than they are at NYS. Even the field level seats at Citi seem to be pushed too far back, with barely a slope. As a matter of fact, the field level view from Citi's concourse is so far back that it's rendered unimpressive. At NYS the stands seem to be ABOVE and on top of the playing field and you feel more part of the game. At Citi Field you feel more distanced from the game. What's even more amazing is that Citi seats 10,000 less fans. I guess that's why Citi gives the "illusion" of being intimate and close to the action. It's not, or at least not as close as NYS. This isn't to say "my ballpark is better than yours," Citi is a nice, if not overly impressive park; it's just a valid comparison of similar seats I sat in at NYS and Citi within a week of one another.
I can't see how anyone who has sat in similar seats at both stadiums can disagree with me. If anyone has any doubts, I challenge them to sit in comparable sections at NYS and Citi, as I did, and judge for themselves.
Since Citi has 10,000 fewer seats than YS and Citi has thousands more seats in fair territory than YS I can't see how it is possible that you feel more distanced from the game at Citi. The distance to the backstop at Citi is 45 feet, at YS it's 52 feet. You yourself in your review of Citi said the seats were narrow and had no legroom. So YS has larger seats and more legroom, taking up more space per seat. YS isn't stacked, its tiered out, taking up even more space. Between the thousands more seats in foul territory, the larger seats with more legroom, the larger distance to the backstop, the tiered, not stacked levels -can it be that it's Yankee Stadium with closer views to the field?
dstoffa
06-04-2009, 10:49 AM
The frieze looked great at night, Monument park from the terrace looks large and you can see all the monuments from above. The plaques were coverd w/ a blue tarp. I didnt notice the resturant as much as I thought I would. If they paint both sides blue it will blend in and look unfinished.
My opinions of NYS are mixed. And that has more to do with the name of the place then the actual place.
As a new ballpark goes, it's beautiful. I have little to complain about. There are things they did at NYS that blow Citi away -- portals versus stairs being the big difference.
However, as NYS, it fails in my opinion. And maybe it's more a function of what my expectations were, and how they attempted (and maybe failed) to capture Old Yankee Stadium in this building.
The frieze is impressive, but I have to say it is not gorgeous at night. The lights are too close to the frieze, and that detracts from the frieze's presence. In addition, the back of the grandstand level needs to be blacked out / filled in (at least a light break should be installed) to mitigate light shining though that open wall, which also detracts from the presence of the frieze. It should also have been hung out another 50 feet, saying to anyone who is on the field, "You are in Yankee Stadium, bee-yatch!!" Right now, it lay too far back and in my opinion seems to be apologizing for being there. It should be covering the grandstand and the terrace seating, and the stadium lights should be in batches / towers instead of being installed around the entire stadium so that the lights themselves pull focus from the frieze.
Cheers!
-Doug
scooterfan
06-04-2009, 10:52 AM
I don't know why Yankee fans concern themselves with Citi Field. Citi Field is an unattractive, inadequate embarrassment in just about every way. Yankee Stadium is a huge disappointment for a lot of Yankee fans but it's a better looking facility than Citi. Met fans should demand the Wilpons sell the team.
baseballman1243
06-04-2009, 11:28 AM
ouch lol :rolleyes: