View Full Version : Which team in the NL East do you dislike the most???
JerseeJerry55
03-12-2009, 08:09 AM
Just a quick question: Which team in the NL East do you dislike the most?
I will rank them this way.
1) Philadelphia- It's not really the team, because they have some really good players. Utley, Howard, and Victorino are very good to great. Werth, Ruiz, and Moyer are pretty good (how could you hate Jamie Moyer, the guy throws cotton balls at the hitter). Rollins is just a mouth, and Hamels was dragged into the whole "the Mets are a bunch of chokers" by the midday hosts on WFAN NY. I won't miss Met Killer Pat Burrell though. But it's their fans who really get to me. The Phillies won, great now can we get back to realitynow? They just get so out of hand with this "Mets suck", the "Mets are a bunch of chokers" garbage. Not saying we don't have a lack of decorum at times, but they give the Yankees fans a good name at times with their behavior.
2) Atlanta- The worst thing Selig ever did besides not getting blood testing of players into the collective barganing agreement, was allowing Atlanta to be placed into the NL East. This set us back 10 years at a minimum. Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Avery, Hampton, Chipper, McGriff, McCann, Andrew Jones, Dye, Bobby Cox, the list can go on forever. They killed us seven ways to Sunday, and with a smile on their faces. Best quote ever about a Braves player from a Mets player was Piazza who once said "Everytime he comes up to bat I say 'Hello Larry' to him because I refuse to call a grown man Chipper". However I will state that the Braves fans I've come across at Shea in the past were always very polite.
3) Florida- Never had any contempt for them until the last 2 years. As far as I am concerned they're an okay team, with cost concious management. Uggla's pretty good. Their pitching staff is young and improving. Don't like Hanley Ramirez whatsoever. His hatred towards the Mets goes way too deep for my liking. This year if he gets near our dugout and starts running his mouth like he did last year, he should be met by some of our players, and shown back to his dugout.
4) Washington- How could anyone dislike the Nationals. they're the Montreal Expos for crying out loud. Always had a good organization, with a great eye for talent. Cromartie, Dawson, Rogers, Carter, DeShields, Grissom, Walker, Vlad, Pedro, etc. I could go on, and on, and on. I like some of their younger players now like Zimmerman, Lannan. If they ever made it a World Series I think the world would stop. I think I'd like to see a Mets game at their new park in the near future.
NYMets523
03-12-2009, 03:16 PM
I'd probably rank Florida over Atlanta. The Marlins seem like a team of punks. The few Marlin fans I've encountered and jerks. They talk smack even though they don't bother to go to games and then try to defend it by saying they're sticking it to management. Hopefully the Marlins become victims of contraction.
FanFromNJ
03-12-2009, 04:49 PM
Used to be the Braves... now it's the Phillies
AutographCollector
03-12-2009, 08:55 PM
Used to be the Braves... now it's the Phillies
Agreed 400%.
metsforever7515
03-13-2009, 04:22 AM
Phillies. Bad trip to Philly in August 07....:cry::cry:
FanFromNJ
03-13-2009, 07:43 PM
Phillies. Bad trip to Philly in August 07....:cry::cry:
What happened?
Paulypal
03-14-2009, 05:48 AM
I guess for the majority it will be the Phils simply for the fact that your always going to hate the team better than yours. The Phils are better so there you go. Hamels was goated into saying that the Mets are chokers. I heard the interview, but the moron behind the mic was begging Hamels to say it.
The Marlins..I dont really hate them...they were called mouthy in this thread..you must be kidding? Are they more mouthy than the Mets were? In 2007 it was Reyes and Milledge that gave the Marlins all the incentive they needed to come out on the last day of the season and kick their a$$. I quote "if I had two broken legs I will crawl on to the field to play" - Hanley Ramirez talking about game 162 in a season that was lost for the Marlins. Hell do you remember Reyes hiding behind Alomar so he didnt get his a$$ kicked in game 161? What team fights in game 161 in season where they are 25 games out of first? The Mets gave them that incentive.
We all hated the Braves because again they were better than the Mets for 15 years.
The Nats - cmon.
Honestly as much as I love the Mets and I have loved the Mets since 1973 (I was nine years old)...they may be the team I hate the most in the East also. Hate probably isnt the right word but they make me nuts. From the front office to the players on the field they just seem to be missing something. There are some moves that were there to be had this off season that they just didnt make. Thats their history. Being a good team isnt good enough for the fans, but being good is good for the bottom line so that covers the front office. The players themselves for some reason think they are a much better team than they are. Not really sure why they think that, but they do. Walking around saying we are the team to beat when you havent won anything just makes you look stupid. I guess I am old school that way. Play the game, keep your mouth shut, and celebrate after you have done something as a team.
Mongoose
03-14-2009, 07:44 AM
I guess for the majority it will be the Phils simply for the fact that your always going to hate the team better than yours. The Phils are better so there you go. Hamels was goated into saying that the Mets are chokers. I heard the interview, but the moron behind the mic was begging Hamels to say it.
The Marlins..I dont really hate them...they were called mouthy in this thread..you must be kidding? Are they more mouthy than the Mets were? In 2007 it was Reyes and Milledge that gave the Marlins all the incentive they needed to come out on the last day of the season and kick their a$$. I quote "if I had two broken legs I will crawl on to the field to play" - Hanley Ramirez talking about game 162 in a season that was lost for the Marlins. Hell do you remember Reyes hiding behind Alomar so he didnt get his a$$ kicked in game 161? What team fights in game 161 in season where they are 25 games out of first? The Mets gave them that incentive.
We all hated the Braves because again they were better than the Mets for 15 years.
The Nats - cmon.
Honestly as much as I love the Mets and I have loved the Mets since 1973 (I was nine years old)...they may be the team I hate the most in the East also. Hate probably isnt the right word but they make me nuts. From the front office to the players on the field they just seem to be missing something. There are some moves that were there to be had this off season that they just didnt make. Thats their history. Being a good team isnt good enough for the fans, but being good is good for the bottom line so that covers the front office. The players themselves for some reason think they are a much better team than they are. Not really sure why they think that, but they do. Walking around saying we are the team to beat when you havent won anything just makes you look stupid. I guess I am old school that way. Play the game, keep your mouth shut, and celebrate after you have done something as a team.
I don't think what Reyes or Milledge did was any big deal. The 1986 team would have done a dance in the Nationals' face and then beat them up if they had any problem with it. The idea that a last place team can somehow be provoked into beating a first place team is laughable. The fact that a last place team was able to psychologically intimidate a first place team indicates a big problem.
What would the 1986 squad have done if the Nationals had opened a mouth disapproving of any victory celebrations? Exactly what they did when opposing teams complained about all the curtain calls: continue the curtain calls and beat them on the field - and if any beanballs resulted, physically beat them on the field. You don't get the idea the current squad has that kind of competitive fire; they back down.
Even the Marlins felt they could show contempt to the Mets by refusing to get off the field before the 9/28/08 celebration at Shea. Everybody feels like they can kick sand in the current team's face. Everybody's a rival, and the Mets always seem to come out on the bottom of every single rivalry.
Wilpon seems to dislike scrappy extroverted gamers - who are the exact type of guys that lend a team backbone, and prevent a lousy team like the Nationals or Marlins from acting like they did and doing what they did. Wilpon prefers a rotating cast of veteran mercenaries with a dispassionate "professional" attitude: in other words, guys that don't really care that much about winning.
And I do agree that he cares more about the bottom line than anything else.
NYMets523
03-14-2009, 08:36 AM
Play the game, keep your mouth shut, and celebrate after you have done something as a team.
So I guess you hated the Mets in '86.
Let's Go Mets!
03-14-2009, 02:25 PM
Just a quick question: Which team in the NL East do you dislike the most?
Has to be Florida for me.
The Mets owe them, not one, but two humiliations.
FanFromNJ
03-14-2009, 02:32 PM
Has to be Florida for me.
The Mets owe them, not one, but two humiliations.
Good point:nod:
Paulypal
03-14-2009, 06:35 PM
So I guess you hated the Mets in '86.
I dont remember any Salsa dancing up 11-2 after a meaningless homerun in 1986, and I watched just about every game in 1986. 23 years ago people thought the curtain calls were arrogant. On that day in 2007 specifically it was horrendous what those two yo yo's were doing.
Frogshiem77
03-23-2009, 03:03 PM
I guess for the majority it will be the Phils simply for the fact that your always going to hate the team better than yours. The Phils are better so there you go. Hamels was goated into saying that the Mets are chokers. I heard the interview, but the moron behind the mic was begging Hamels to say it.
The Marlins..I dont really hate them...they were called mouthy in this thread..you must be kidding? Are they more mouthy than the Mets were? In 2007 it was Reyes and Milledge that gave the Marlins all the incentive they needed to come out on the last day of the season and kick their a$$. I quote "if I had two broken legs I will crawl on to the field to play" - Hanley Ramirez talking about game 162 in a season that was lost for the Marlins. Hell do you remember Reyes hiding behind Alomar so he didnt get his a$$ kicked in game 161? What team fights in game 161 in season where they are 25 games out of first? The Mets gave them that incentive.
We all hated the Braves because again they were better than the Mets for 15 years.
The Nats - cmon.
Honestly as much as I love the Mets and I have loved the Mets since 1973 (I was nine years old)...they may be the team I hate the most in the East also. Hate probably isnt the right word but they make me nuts. From the front office to the players on the field they just seem to be missing something. There are some moves that were there to be had this off season that they just didnt make. Thats their history. Being a good team isnt good enough for the fans, but being good is good for the bottom line so that covers the front office. The players themselves for some reason think they are a much better team than they are. Not really sure why they think that, but they do. Walking around saying we are the team to beat when you havent won anything just makes you look stupid. I guess I am old school that way. Play the game, keep your mouth shut, and celebrate after you have done something as a team.
You sound like a self hating Mets fan.
m8644
03-23-2009, 05:00 PM
I guess for the majority it will be the Phils simply for the fact that your always going to hate the team better than yours. The Phils are better so there you go. Hamels was goated into saying that the Mets are chokers. I heard the interview, but the moron behind the mic was begging Hamels to say it.
The Marlins..I dont really hate them...they were called mouthy in this thread..you must be kidding? Are they more mouthy than the Mets were? In 2007 it was Reyes and Milledge that gave the Marlins all the incentive they needed to come out on the last day of the season and kick their a$$. I quote "if I had two broken legs I will crawl on to the field to play" - Hanley Ramirez talking about game 162 in a season that was lost for the Marlins. Hell do you remember Reyes hiding behind Alomar so he didnt get his a$$ kicked in game 161? What team fights in game 161 in season where they are 25 games out of first? The Mets gave them that incentive.
We all hated the Braves because again they were better than the Mets for 15 years.
The Nats - cmon.
Honestly as much as I love the Mets and I have loved the Mets since 1973 (I was nine years old)...they may be the team I hate the most in the East also. Hate probably isnt the right word but they make me nuts. From the front office to the players on the field they just seem to be missing something. There are some moves that were there to be had this off season that they just didnt make. Thats their history. Being a good team isnt good enough for the fans, but being good is good for the bottom line so that covers the front office. The players themselves for some reason think they are a much better team than they are. Not really sure why they think that, but they do. Walking around saying we are the team to beat when you havent won anything just makes you look stupid. I guess I am old school that way. Play the game, keep your mouth shut, and celebrate after you have done something as a team.
Rollins stated the phils were the team to beat BEFORE they won a single thing. Yes, they went out and beat the mets....but you must not respect rollins either since he did the exact thing that you said you dislike in your post....saying it before doing it.
(and for the record....EVERYONE seems to forget this now, but before september 2007 this philly team was known as a bunch that would never win the big game) They lost close playoff races numerous times in the 2000's.