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Anubis2051
03-09-2009, 09:52 AM
So with the WBC underway, I started thinking about where the next games would be played. Since there has been speculation that the teams would be expanded to 24 from the 16 currently involved, I drafted 6 divisions instead of the four. To fill in the extra spaces, I chose from the countries that applied for the 2009 WBC. so here it is:

Pool A
China
Tawain
Japan
Korea
Host- Korea (Sajik Baseball Stadium)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/2594950912_24182cd61f.jpg?v=0
This division remained unchanged. Since Japan has hosted twice, I figured it was time to spread the WBC love around the far east division, and Korea was the best available option.

Pool B
Australia
United States
Canada
South Affrica
Host- Canada (BC Place)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/manicjaguar/Baseball/baseballclassic1.jpg
This one will probably prove controversial. I structured the division by placing the four English speaking nations who have been in the tournament from the start together. I placed the game at BC place to give Vancouver the chance to prove that it can be ready for baseball, particularly with the recent renovations. If the WBC in BC proves successful, an MLB Team may be stationed there in the future.

Pool C
Italy
Netherlands
Sweden
Israel
Host- Netherlands (Neptunus Family Stadion)
http://www.baseball-reference.com/bpv/images/1/19/Neptunus_stadion.jpg
I figured it was time that WBC baseball was played in Europe, and Neptunus seems to be the top ballpark over there. While the capacity is low, I'm sure that temporary seating could be added to increase the capacity. This division was structured by adding the two original European countries, as well as two newcomers, both of whom applied in '09. Israel would have the option of fielding Jewish players from other nations.

Pool D
Panama
Cuba
Venezula
Mexico
Host- Mexico (Estadio Monterrey)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Estadiomty.jpg/800px-Estadiomty.jpg
Three Latin American Nations make up this division. Estadio Monterry is considered one of the best ballparks internationally, and is modeled after Jack Murphy Stadium.

Pool E
Dominican Republic
Puerto Rico
Nicaragua
Colombia
Host- Dominican Republic (Estadio Quisqueya)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Estadio_Quisqueya.JPG
Two more Latin American teams were added here, and the Dominican was selected as the host since they considered pulling out of the '09 WBC if they were not given hosting rights.

Pool F
Russia
France
Great Brittan
Ireland
Host- Great Brittian (Converted Lord's Cricket Ground)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Lords_match_in_progress.jpg/800px-Lords_match_in_progress.jpg
OK, now this division is really going to be a wild card. Four newcomer European teams (all of whom applied, and all of whom have a very slim interest in the sport). The goal here is really to attempt to grow the game in europe, and attempts to build off of traditional rivalries between GB-France, and GB-Ireland. It's doubtful that any of these teams will make it far in the tournament, but it's baseball, so you never know. Lord's was chosen based on the past interest expressed in hosting an MLB regular season game, as well as a high seating capacity.

Dale_in_MN
03-09-2009, 10:32 AM
Thanks for the insights/speculation.

After not watching any WBC last time, I've been very into it this year.

What do you think the odds are that they would actually expand the tourney to 24? Would that water down the field too much?

DJ Starion
03-09-2009, 11:13 AM
Assuming the pools stay the same for the next round:

Pool A - Japan, China, Chinese Taipei, Korea @ Jamsil Baseball Stadium in Seoul

Pool B - Mexico, South Africa, Cuba, Australia @ Monterrey

Pool C - United States, Italy, Venezuela, Canada @ Tropicana Field, Tampa FL

Pool D - Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Panama, Netherlands @ Hiram Bithorn - San Juan

Pool 1 - Dodger Stadium, Los Angeles

Pool 2 - Turner Field, Atlanta

Semifinals and Final - Minute Maid Park, Houston


I kept Pool D in San Juan because honestly in that pool I don't see another place unless you moved it to the US

Anubis2051
03-09-2009, 12:05 PM
Assuming the pools stay the same for the next round:

Pool A - Japan, China, Chinese Taipei, Korea @ Jamsil Baseball Stadium in Seoul

Pool B - Mexico, South Africa, Cuba, Australia @ Monterrey

Pool C - United States, Italy, Venezuela, Canada @ Tropicana Field, Tampa FL

Pool D - Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Panama, Netherlands @ Hiram Bithorn - San Juan

Pool 1 - Dodger Stadium, Los Angeles

Pool 2 - Turner Field, Atlanta

Semifinals and Final - Minute Maid Park, Houston


I kept Pool D in San Juan because honestly in that pool I don't see another place unless you moved it to the US

Why the trop? that has to be the ugliest stadium in all of baseball! what about Arlington stadium? that might be a better option.

Here's a question: does anyone know if Aloha Stadium can still convert to baseball? that might be an option for a future WBC game as well.

http://www.andrewclem.com/Baseball/Diag/AlohaStadium.gif
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/29/293441.jpg

Pedro's Compadre
03-09-2009, 01:02 PM
Rogers Centre
http://inlinethumb14.webshots.com/9677/2419578760104746693S600x600Q85.jpg (http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2419578760104746693NBYayL)

WBC
http://inlinethumb13.webshots.com/41484/2031343360104746693S600x600Q85.jpg (http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2031343360104746693KakUfG)

Canada & USA
http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/42826/2532631360104746693S600x600Q85.jpg (http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2532631360104746693rhLjrY)

Rogers Centre Canada & USA
http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/42912/2210806870104746693S600x600Q85.jpg (http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2210806870104746693entMmW)

Starting 9
http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/44291/2300250820104746693S600x600Q85.jpg (http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2300250820104746693rvAaGG)

First Pitch
http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/41744/2253395580104746693S600x600Q85.jpg (http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2253395580104746693rnNMzr)

Teammates David Wright & Derek Jeter... Wierd
http://inlinethumb51.webshots.com/43890/2494957840104746693S600x600Q85.jpg (http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2494957840104746693aTLTzi)

Rogers Centre
http://inlinethumb54.webshots.com/43317/2504995480104746693S600x600Q85.jpg (http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2504995480104746693ytVGda)

the_Bored
03-09-2009, 01:25 PM
If the bracket played out so that USA and Canada met with the Asian pool, I could see Safeco being used as a second round venue. It would get a lot more Canadians making the trip than Miami will, it has a roof, and the West Coast location makes it easier for the Asian teams crossing the Pacific. I suppose Vancouver could be used for the same purpose, as both cities have a sizable Asian minority. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Safeco_field_from_upper_deck.jpg/798px-Safeco_field_from_upper_deck.jpg

GuitarPunk2512
03-09-2009, 02:01 PM
i want to see european teams next time, i thought we wanted to promote baseball worldwide with the WBC so why exclude them? btw, it will be in 2013, then 2017, then 2021 and so on. the one thing i dont like about the WBC is the 4 year wait between competition.

i guarentee that the stadium would be sold out for the european division because its a novelty to thm, they dont play baseball there so everyone would go to see it. just look at the nfl games in london.

Coach Bombay
03-09-2009, 02:12 PM
Question..

It appears most of the Asian teams play on turf fields or just dirt infields, when the come over seas to they have a advantage or disadvantage when they play in grass infields.

Paul W
03-09-2009, 03:19 PM
may need lots of wd-40 to get that place in baseball layout...

btw - can "chipper" keep up his slump vs. mets this year?

Anubis2051
03-09-2009, 03:22 PM
Question..

It appears most of the Asian teams play on turf fields or just dirt infields, when the come over seas to they have a advantage or disadvantage when they play in grass infields.

well that depends on how you look at it, they'll have more reaction time here, since the ball will travel slightly slower through the infield, but that might also hurt them when it comes to their timing, since they are probably more accustomed to the fast moving grounders.

Pelt
03-09-2009, 05:14 PM
Here's a question: does anyone know if Aloha Stadium can still convert to baseball? that might be an option for a future WBC game as well.



No, it can't. They disabled that conversion ability a while ago.

Bleeding Pinstripes
03-09-2009, 05:20 PM
Here's a question: does anyone know if Aloha Stadium can still convert to baseball? that might be an option for a future WBC game as well.

http://www.andrewclem.com/Baseball/Diag/AlohaStadium.gif
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/29/293441.jpg

Aloha stadium has been locked permanity in to the football configuration due to cost and age. apraently management feels that the stadium is just old to keep moving back and forth. and since there is no permanate baseball team calling the stadium home it realy was a waste of money to keep the stadiums conversion capibility.

Anubis2051
03-09-2009, 05:54 PM
Aloha stadium has been locked permanity in to the football configuration due to cost and age. apraently management feels that the stadium is just old to keep moving back and forth. and since there is no permanate baseball team calling the stadium home it realy was a waste of money to keep the stadiums conversion capibility.

it's funny, the stadium looks more natural in baseball configuration, no large sections of paved land with tracks in it. it blends in nicely.