View Full Version : Anyone know if ESPN is doing their Baseball Encylopedia this year?
SteveJRogers
02-28-2009, 07:53 AM
I've seen nothing about one on Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble.com and they generally have upcoming releases several months in advance.
I know they didn't do a football one this past year, it would be a shame if they discontinuted the baseball one.
Speaking of which, when is the Neft/Cohen book due out?
abolishthedh
03-17-2009, 08:37 AM
IMHO, it is very doubtful that ESPN will publish another version this year. I bought the softcover 2008 edition a couple of weeks ago at Barnes and Noble. It would be surprising to see the reference published in consecutive years. Annual publications are done for the Register and several current player analyses for the sake of fantasy leagues. Historical encyclopedias have a limited market, and so the next edition (if there is one at all) is likely to be years away.
The ESPN volume will be very much like Total Baseball, and that in itself was a major surprise. In the end, IMHO, there is still nothing to compare to MacMillan's "Big Mac". MacMillan provided a comprehensive roster, leaderboard and standings for each season, in addition to the player profiles. Although that may seem redundant, the idea is terrific for reviewing the double play partners of Cal Ripken or Ozzie Smith, or great outfield trios, or great starting fours/fives. While true that we had Aaron and Mays' careers listed twice in the same book, it provided an easy way to compare the outfields of those two greats, or the lineup protection they must have had over their careers.
--- R.I.P. "Big Mac". For the uninitiated younger crowd, look for one on ebay.
spark240
03-17-2009, 09:26 AM
The ESPN volume will be very much like Total Baseball, and that in itself was a major surprise. In the end, IMHO, there is still nothing to compare to MacMillan's "Big Mac". MacMillan provided a comprehensive roster, leaderboard and standings for each season
Wait... isn't the ESPN book the same as the Palmer & Gillette, Barnes & Noble book? I'm pretty sure my edition of that ('03 or '04) has all those things.
abolishthedh
03-17-2009, 10:44 AM
Spark--
I am unfamiliar with the Palmer/Gillette book you have mentioned, but if you are satisfied with it, then okay. I don't like the idea of buying separate books over what Big Mac gave in one book 4 1/2 " thick. The only data Big Mac lacked was sabremetric stuff, starting with Runs Created and on from there. But this could be calculated anyway; the reference was the best for small to mid-size research projects.
spark240
03-17-2009, 03:36 PM
This is the one I meant.
SABRSusan
03-19-2009, 07:02 AM
I was speaking with Gary Gillette in reference to The Emerald Guide to Baseball 2009 and he mentioned that he is not doing the ESPN Encyclopedia this year. I can ask him more specifically when they'll be doing another one if you wish.
In the meantime, if you haven't picked up The Emerald Guide yet, definitely do so. It was edited by Gillette and Palmer and is the most comprehensive record of the 2008 season available. SABR is offering the PDF version of the book free to both members and non-members alike. Just go to www.sabr.org. (It really is free.) The print version of The Emerald Guide is available from Lulu.com for $23.94.
spark240
03-20-2009, 10:03 AM
Thanks for the tip, Susan.
Assuming the next encyclopedia edited by Gillette and Palmer, whenever it is, maintains/improves the content and standards of the last one, I will guarantee two copies (one to give) sold right here.
SteveJRogers
03-22-2009, 04:36 PM
Anyone heard anything about the Neft/Cohen books?