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conky149er
02-21-2009, 12:05 PM
What do you guys think of these 2 tees

just wondering if they are gimmicks or not

The Advanced Skills Tee (AST)

* Unique Forward Arm Design To Eliminate "Dipping"
* Outside Swing Barrier To Eliminate "Casting"
* Height Adjustable (24" to 39")
* Movable (On Around The Plate) To Work Inside, Middle And Outside Pitch Locations
* Durable Brush/Ball Holder
* Portable
* Tough Polyurethane Construction


Why the "Forward Arm"?

In fact, the question should be "Why not a forward a arm?". You don't hit the ball over the center of the plate (as traditional batting tees suggest). You make contact in front of the plate. But there are two other equally important reasons to use a forward arm design:

1. The forward arm eliminates "dipping" or dropping the hands and trailing shoulder to lift the ball with a "looping" type swing. If you "dip" with the AST, you hit the back of the arm. It forces you to take the bat straight down to the ball, leveling the swing at the point of contact.
http://images.sportjunk.net/products/ktee3.jpghttp://images.sportjunk.net/products/ktee4.jpg

2. The forward arm also pivots and rotates to place the ball on the inside or outside of the strike zone. Then, the arm points in the direction to drive the ball based on pitch location (i.e. pull the inside pitch, go with the outside pitch to the opposite field . . . "Hit the ball where it's pitched").

http://images.sportjunk.net/products/ktee5.jpghttp://images.sportjunk.net/products/ktee6.jpg

What is the purpose of the "Outside Barrier"?

The outside barrier eliminates "casting". It keeps you form swinging "long" and helps you "keep the hands inside the ball". If the bat or arms are extended prematurely the bat head will slap the flexible upright barrier post. For years coaches have set a tee adjacent to a fence or screen to force hitters to compact their swing. The outside barrier does the same thing except it is a lot more effective. It rotates around the tee to accommodate LH or RH hitters and it moves along with the forward arm to help you keep the hands "tight" when you are working on inside and outside pitch locations. With the outside barrier you are forced to rotate the hips and torso and extend the hands only at the point of contact. It produces a "quick" bat and more power too.
http://images.sportjunk.net/products/ktee7.jpghttp://images.sportjunk.net/products/ktee8.jpg



and then there is this one


The Stayback Tee


The Stayback Tee is designed to teach and practice the rotational method of hitting that can double bat speed. The Stayback Tee trains the hitter to keep the weight coiled on the back leg and hip longer. This allows the hitter to adjust to different pitches and maximize the power from leading with hips and turning into the ball. Made of solid metal construction with replaceable tee. Converts to left handed easily and adjusts to any size player. Designed with a safe padded frame so it can be used on any surface indoor or out. Breaks down in seconds, making it very portable. Training CD included.

http://images.sportjunk.net/products/item352.jpg





so what do you think of theese 2 tees?

there claims seem a bit outragous like by using this tee you will double your batspeed

has anyone ever used either of theese tees before? and if so do you think they live up to there claims and are the good?

Chris O'Leary
02-21-2009, 01:05 PM
The Advanced Skills Tee (AST)

This one promotes a level swing, so I wouldn't use it.


The Stayback Tee

I don't know if this is really of benefit.

cubsphill
02-21-2009, 01:56 PM
http://www.tannertees.com/

conky149er
02-21-2009, 01:58 PM
http://www.tannertees.com/

i know aobut hte Tanner Tee, i was just talking about those tees above that have large claims attached to them

but yea, everyone hear seems to swear by the tanner tee, it seems to be a great Tee that lasts a long time

conky149er
02-21-2009, 02:01 PM
also what do people think of the Tee stackers?http://www.teestackers.com/images/hittingpic.jpg

they seem to be great to me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXaOakvRgjI


you seem to get alot more swings in, altohugh they seem to produce a level swing


is it even possible to get a tee that helps you make a slight uppercut? because it would seem to me that you would always hit the top of the ball triyng to get it upwards, instead of hittign it right on

shake-n-bake
02-21-2009, 04:25 PM
Are tees really all that useful? My wife accidentally tossed ours last year (thought it was for t-ball and neither kid is in t-ball anymore). I've looked at replacing it, but haven't gotten around to it. Are there some advantages over throwing BP. We do a lot of that.

ralanprod
02-21-2009, 06:16 PM
Are tees really all that useful? My wife accidentally tossed ours last year (thought it was for t-ball and neither kid is in t-ball anymore). I've looked at replacing it, but haven't gotten around to it. Are there some advantages over throwing BP. We do a lot of that.

Personally, if I am trying to teach something to a batter I like to start off a tee because it gives them one less thing to have to think about. Once I think whatever the problem is has been fixed, we move on to trying to apply the correction to a pitched/tossed ball.

Although I guess you don't really need the tee. I could do pretty much the same thing with a hitting stick or something like it.

Erik
02-21-2009, 07:03 PM
What I don't like about the standard tee is it doesn't create a visual aid to help develop the swing. IMO a regular batting tee does more harm than good. This swing training /batting tee here watch the DVD www.instructoswing.com will in fact help build a high level swing. The Instructo Swing 5000 works as the hitters silent coach during training giving instant feedback on poor swings and providing a visual aid to the ball.



EL

kylebee
02-21-2009, 08:40 PM
Get a Tanner Tee. And yes, tees are important - it's where you start to build a swing, IMO. Using it exclusively will probably lead to bat drag and a long swing, but when you're on your own and you need to get some work in, you can't beat a tee and a net.

conky149er
02-21-2009, 09:39 PM
that instructo tee seems very good

http://baseballtips.com/products/instructo.jpg

i mean, the thing can be angled upwards, a normal tee cant, so it seems to promote rotational hittign, wear a normal tee wants you to be level hitting

Cod
02-22-2009, 05:50 AM
I am actually pondering with the idea of getting a Tanner Tee. I'm starting to get back into baseball now-a-days, after playing througout little league and high school; it seems to me that the Tanner Tee is great for players of all ages.

2zwudz
02-22-2009, 07:50 AM
What abought the Tannertees stability as far being knocked over with the swing. Its base looks small and lite weight. I know you aren't supposed to hit the tee with the bat but it happens. Does stand up to this or does it get knocked over alot?

Mark

kylebee
02-22-2009, 04:29 PM
Stop with the gimmicks, conky. They aren't going to make you a MLB-quality hitter. You need to hit the gym five times a week, get in shape, build a swing, and study video. If you really want to play indy league ball or better, you need to start acting like it and stop looking for shortcuts.

EDIT: As for the Tanner Tee getting knocked over, I just use a wrist weight on top of the pole to stabilize it. You can use a bucket of balls to keep it still, or a cinder block.

Chris O'Leary
02-22-2009, 06:12 PM
EDIT: As for the Tanner Tee getting knocked over, I just use a wrist weight on top of the pole to stabilize it. You can use a bucket of balls to keep it still, or a cinder block.

This is the big weakness of these tees, but it's easy to fix.

cubsphill
02-22-2009, 06:18 PM
also, you could unscrew the tee from the base and put it on a bigger base.

Erik
02-22-2009, 06:24 PM
Stop with the gimmicks, conky. They aren't going to make you a MLB-quality hitter. You need to hit the gym five times a week, get in shape, build a swing, and study video. If you really want to play indy league ball or better, you need to start acting like it and stop looking for shortcuts.

EDIT: As for the Tanner Tee getting knocked over, I just use a wrist weight on top of the pole to stabilize it. You can use a bucket of balls to keep it still, or a cinder block.


Kylebee,


what is the gimmick you are talking about?




EL

kylebee
02-22-2009, 06:26 PM
Kylebee,


what is the gimmick you are talking about?




EL

Erik,

The gimmick tees.

caseyd123
02-22-2009, 06:29 PM
how does the schutt tee compare to the tanner tee?

http://www.baseballexp.com/Baseball-Training-Aids/Batting-Tees/Schutt-Portable-Travel-Tee/baseball/lev/6/productId/961/Ne/1100001/parentCatId/71/pCategoryId/8/Ns/CATEGORY_SEQ_71|0/N/36+1100063+33/Nty/1/categoryId/1100063/view/21/index.pro

looks similar and is $20 cheaper...

cubsphill
02-22-2009, 09:07 PM
how does the schutt tee compare to the tanner tee?

http://www.baseballexp.com/Baseball-Training-Aids/Batting-Tees/Schutt-Portable-Travel-Tee/baseball/lev/6/productId/961/Ne/1100001/parentCatId/71/pCategoryId/8/Ns/CATEGORY_SEQ_71|0/N/36+1100063+33/Nty/1/categoryId/1100063/view/21/index.pro

looks similar and is $20 cheaper...

I've read that it's not as durable.

AL_DAD
02-23-2009, 04:46 AM
I've read that it's not as durable.

I have had it for 2 seasons and it is still holding up. I have used it with my son's team (10u) and I will probably have to change the topper this year. All and all not to shabby.

ralanprod
02-23-2009, 08:02 AM
The problem with the Schutt (well, at least the version I have), is that the pole does not screw into the base.

It's good in that if the batter hits the pole, it just flies out of the base without any real damage. The problem is that it doesn't take much of a hit to get this to happen. So, I constantly have to re-set the pole into the base.

Most tees can be weighted so they don't fall over constantly, but if the pole is not affixed to the base this really isn't possible.