Big Papi, Pedro, Vlad, and others linked to steroids trainer/dealer

[Coach Bombay]

http://nybaseballdigest.com/

Buried in today’s Daily News article linking A-Rod to Angel Presinal, the steroid-tainted trainer, is news that Red Sox slugger David Ortiz and pitcher Pedro Martinez have also been linked to the unsavory figure that has been banned from all MLB clubhouses.

The article tells us: “Presinal has worked with some of the game’s biggest stars: Juan Gonzalez, Pedro Martinez, David Ortiz, Vladimir Guerrero, Bartolo Colon, Miguel Tejada, Adrian Beltre, Moises Alou, Jose Guillen, Ervin Santana, Ruben Sierra, Francisco Cordero, Jose Mesa and Juan Guzman, among others. ”

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2009/02/19/2009-02-19_arods_pal_the_tainted_trainer_steroidlin.html?p age=1

In addition to A-Rod, Presinal has worked with some of the game's biggest stars: Juan Gonzalez, Pedro Martinez, David Ortiz, Vladimir Guerrero, Bartolo Colon, Miguel Tejada, Adrian Beltre, Moises Alou, Jose Guillen, Ervin Santana, Ruben Sierra, Francisco Cordero, Jose Mesa and Juan Guzman, among others.

[spark240]

It's all going to come out eventually.

[mwiggins]

Well, Ortiz is against roids, so that probably means the whole thing is a non-starter. ;)

[joshfan]

AS long as the witchunt goes alive

[TonyStarks]

Any day with no mention of Pujols is a good day...

But this is exactly the reason why the 103 names need to come out now. Let's get it all out there in the open and be done with this. As long as the other 103 names are behind the curtain the media will do anything, including breaking laws, to get them out.

It has to happen.

[Buczilla]

Any day with no mention of Pujols is a good day...

But this is exactly the reason why the 103 names need to come out now. Let's get it all out there in the open and be done with this. As long as the other 103 names are behind the curtain the media will do anything, including breaking laws, to get them out.

It has to happen.

One could only imagine what it would be like to be in one of the 103's shoes. You witness how the Bonds, Clemens and now A-Rod scandals unfold. You see the backlash. You gotta be thinking that if they got A-Rod's name, they got mine too. Then again, maybe they don't. If I keep this on the down low maybe this will pass right over and everything will be cool. If I come out they are gonna eat me alive, if I don't and they find out they are gonna eat me alive.

One would think they would catch even more heat for trying to hide, rather than coming right out. It's an ugly situation either way. This story and many others just like it pertaining to political figures and such shows us that there is no such thing as confidential information anymore.

[tommybaseball]

Well, Ortiz is against roids, so that probably means the whole thing is a non-starter. ;)

Yeah. Good thing he didn't point a finger.

[Paulypal]

They havent scratched the surface of the players that took roids or HGH. Thousands of players have taken roids or HGH. In my opinion you have Rey Sanchez that took them and Bonds/ARod. That leaves a pretty big gap of the type of player that has taken them.

I just really wish (and this is like asking for Santa Claus) that everything would come out in Spring Training so when the season starts maybe they will talk about the games.

[STLCards2]

Association with a known steroid guru is not an association a wise player should maintain considering recent developments- but that is still not proof that any of them used steroids. Wake me up when a drug-test is failed.

[Paulypal]

I agree 100%. Didnt ARod also say that he passed every test from 2004? That includes a blood test from the 2007 WBC.

This new finding with this guy is just going to expedite the other 103 names.

[philipthegreat]

Somehow the dam is going to break.

That'll be fun, 500 new threads on steroids.

[Paulypal]

I think it needs to break before it gets better. It needs to bottom out, and one name at a time isnt going to do it.

[OleMissCub]

Adrian Beltre

Beltre? No way! Lots of people add .200+ points onto their SLG pct in a single season.

[STLCards2]

Beltre? No way! Lots of people add .200+ points onto their SLG pct in a single season.

In all seriousness, I would like to see how common it is for a player to have a similar drastic, one year outlier in their career- both during the steroid era and prior. Maybe it isn't all that rare.

[baseball junkie]

I don't mean to rain on any parades here but didn't MLB inform players well over a year in advance of the initial steroid test and provide the exact date of it -- that was supposed to be kept anonymous? And and still one out of every 12 players tested positive!

What if MLB had just administered the test with no warning in say 2000 or 2001? (I know the players' union wouldn't have allowed it.) I'm speaking strictly in the theoretical. How many players would have popped positive then?

You have to think a large number of users saw the writing on the wall before the initial test and stopped taking PEDs. That doesn't mean they weren't using for years and years and years before that. Anybody who claims they are clean simply because they weren't one of the 107 players who failed the initial test may be a fraud.

And we shouldn't single out singles hitters as non-users. PEDs are supposed to provided strength, resilience and energy. You need all of those things to consistently win batting championships, not just hit home runs.

This whole era is corrupt.

[gwynnfan]

In all seriousness, I would like to see how common it is for a player to have a similar drastic, one year outlier in their career- both during the steroid era and prior. Maybe it isn't all that rare.

I always wondered about Papi? besides last year being hurt his OPS+ keeps climbing. Besides him being injured last year his stats below.

OPS+ since 2000 ..... 101, 106, 120, 144, 145, 158, 161, 171.
HR totals since 2000.. 10, 18, 20, 31, 41, 47, 54, 35

Its not the same as Brady Anderson at 32 years old when he hit 50 HRs when he averaged 15 for 4 years before and 4 years after that season. But it does seem a little strange that his HR/AB went from approx 25-1 in Minn to 13-1 in Boston.

But to be honest, I really don't care anymore. It used to bother me when guys like Jim Rice was no longer considered to be strong power hitters or big HR guys. I tried to look at guys for the period when they played. The people that gets hurt is stars like Eddie Murray, Dave Winfield, Willie Stargell, Eddie Matthews, Mike Schmidt, Frank Robinson. Plus the guys who played "clean" during this period. IMO, Frank Thomas has been clean. I may be wrong, who knows for sure except Frank. What monster #'s he has put up but he does not get the respect he deserves because all the tainted numbers.

I just want to watch baseball again with out hearing all the crap. We all know "stuff" has happened. It's not breaking news anymore. Just let me watch in peace and enjoy the game again.

[Imgran]

I always wondered about Papi? besides last year being hurt his OPS+ keeps climbing. Besides him being injured last year his stats below.

OPS+ since 2000 ..... 101, 106, 120, 144, 145, 158, 161, 171.
HR totals since 2000.. 10, 18, 20, 31, 41, 47, 54, 35

Its not the same as Brady Anderson at 32 years old when he hit 50 HRs when he averaged 15 for 4 years before and 4 years after that season. But it does seem a little strange that his HR/AB went from approx 25-1 in Minn to 13-1 in Boston.

But to be honest, I really don't care anymore. It used to bother me when guys like Jim Rice was no longer considered to be strong power hitters or big HR guys. I tried to look at guys for the period when they played. The people that gets hurt is stars like Eddie Murray, Dave Winfield, Willie Stargell, Eddie Matthews, Mike Schmidt, Frank Robinson. Plus the guys who played "clean" during this period. IMO, Frank Thomas has been clean. I may be wrong, who knows for sure except Frank. What monster #'s he has put up but he does not get the respect he deserves because all the tainted numbers.

I just want to watch baseball again with out hearing all the crap. We all know "stuff" has happened. It's not breaking news anymore. Just let me watch in peace and enjoy the game again.

For the record: there's a reason given why Ortiz fared so much better in Boston. Minnesota's philosophy was inconsistent with Ortiz's and they tried to get him to conform to their beliefs of what a hitter should be (hit the ball to all fields, make consistent contact, hit line drives not fly balls, etc).

In Boston they just turned him loose to see what he could do. Even though his pull tendencies should, in theory, have made that a bad idea given Fenway's depth of wall out to right-center.

It's kinda like what happened in Tampa with Carlos Pena. He always had the raw power, in Tampa he just found the right approach to use it.

[Buczilla]

For the record: there's a reason given why Ortiz fared so much better in Boston. Minnesota's philosophy was inconsistent with Ortiz's and they tried to get him to conform to their beliefs of what a hitter should be (hit the ball to all fields, make consistent contact, hit line drives not fly balls, etc).

In Boston they just turned him loose to see what he could do. Even though his pull tendencies should, in theory, have made that a bad idea given Fenway's depth of wall out to right-center.

I believe that to be the case as well. It wasn't like he didn't have it in him. One only has to look at his climb up the minor league ladder to see that. When he made it to the big leagues....Minnesota caged the animal, Boston let the animal out.

[Buczilla]

Yankees’ Robinson Cano has high praise for Angel Presinal
By Kat O’Brien / Newsday

TAMPA, Fla. — Yankees second baseman Robinson Cano has nothing but love for Angel "Nao" Presinal, the Dominican trainer who has been banned from major-league clubhouses for his links to steroids.

Presinal is a curious figure. Major League Baseball wants nothing to do with him, but he is popular and widely used in the Dominican Republic. In fact, he was a strength and conditioning coach for the Dominican team during the 2006 World Baseball Classic. Alex Rodriguez, who admitted long-term steroid use last week, was linked to Presinal on Friday by the New York Daily News.

On Friday, Presinal told ESPNdeportes.com: "I did work with Alex during that period of time, just like I helped all of my fellow Dominicans. He used to look for me. But I wasn’t working with him on an exclusive basis. I was rotating between players and teams.

"I have never advised a player (to take steroids); I have never talked about steroids with any athlete, with any baseball player. I just wish there was someone out there with the courage to accuse me directly. That will never happen because folks respect me."

Cano worked out with Presinal in the 2007-08 offseason after an oblique muscle strain. Said Cano: "I heard about him, and how good he is. Every Dominican (player) knows him."

Presinal has worked with many of the top players in the Dominican Republic, and Cano was thrilled with how he recovered from his injury. He said he worked out with Presinal nearly daily a year ago and got back to full strength.

There have been negative reports about Presinal since a 2001 incident in which a bag filled with steroids reportedly belonging to Presinal’s client, former All-Star outfielder Juan Gonzalez, was found at a Toronto airport. No charges were filed in the incident, but MLB has considered Presinal persona non grata since.

Cano acknowledged having heard talk of steroids from TV reports but said he also knows the results other players have obtained through working with Presinal.

"To tell you the truth, I don’t care about what happened with him in the past," Cano said. "I would say I know what I’ve got to do, and I know that he can help me."

Many players use Presinal while returning from injury, Cano said, adding that he would gladly work with Presinal again if he felt the need.

The reason he did not work with Presinal this winter — aside from the fact that he was healthy — is that Cano lives in San Pedro de Macoris and Presinal in Santo Domingo. The round-trip drive of two to three hours daily for workouts takes a toll, and Cano preferred to work out closer to home.

Cano said he didn’t worry about the risk of being tainted as "guilty by association" because he knows he hasn’t done anything wrong. He would not comment on whether Rodriguez is associated with Presinal but confirmed that he had seen Presinal around the team in the past couple of seasons — not in any official capacity but in places such as the team hotel, at the gym or in restaurants in cities in which the Yankees were playing.

Several other Yankees from the Dominican Republic — Melky Cabrera, Damaso Marte and non-roster infielder Angel Berroa — said they are familiar with Presinal but have not worked with him.

Presinal also has worked with a few current and former Mets. Luis Castillo said he used to work out with him but "not anymore." Jose Reyes said he knows him from the 2006 Dominican WBC team.

Mets general manager Omar Minaya said Presinal works with a lot of athletes in the Dominican, not just baseball players. Asked if the Mets or MLB had told players not to work out with him, Minaya said, "I don’t know if you can do that."

Presinal’s roster of current and former famous clients include former Mets Pedro Martinez and Moises Alou and former Yankee Ruben Sierra, as well as David Ortiz [stats], Vladimir Guerrero, Bartolo Colon, Miguel Tejada, Adrian Beltre and Jose Guillen, according to reports.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/other_mlb/view.bg?articleid=1153669&srvc=sports&position=recent

[Buczilla]

Ortiz on Dominican trainer, shoulder
Posted by Chris Forsberg, Boston.com Staff February 21, 2009 08:49 AM

FORT MYERS, Fla. -- David Ortiz spent five minutes answering questions this morning about his relationship with Angel Presinal, amid reports that Major League Baseball investigators want to talk with Alex Rodriguez about his work with the Dominican trainer.

Click HERE (http://graphics.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/Ortiz%20%2802.21%29.mp3)to listen to the full audio from the interview. The Globe's Amalie Benjamin provides the full transcript (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/02%20/more_from_ortiz_1.html).

Asked about his ties to Presinal, Ortiz said: "I gotta tell you, we had this facility, five minutes away from my house and he's one of the guys that trains everybody. That's what everybody does. It's in the center of the city, right in the middle where everybody lives, like an Olympics place where everybody goes to workout, do hitting, running, and other stuff."

Ortiz stressed he had worked with Presinal, but the trainer never pushed him toward steroids.

"I've known him for a long time," said Ortiz. "All I know from him is how to keep our bodies ready; working out, teaching how to do the right exercises and things like that. He's not just teaching baseball players, he has a guy who runs marathon, a volleyball player, basketball player, everybody. He's been doing that for years. All I know is we all work out with him as a group of guys that want to be ready in spring training. And that's about it."

The New York Daily News reported Friday that Presinal had a longstanding relationship with Rodriguez and accompanied him for the entire 2007 season as well as earlier in his career, when he played for the Texas Rangers. According to the Daily News’ sources, Presinal stayed in the same hotels as A-Rod but in a separate room with Rodriguez’s cousin Yuri Sucart, who A-Rod said was his source for steroids during his years with Texas (2001-03).

After the session, Ortiz was asked about his ailing shoulder, which kept him off the practice fields the past two days.

"It's better," said Ortiz, who was sporting an ice pack on his left shoulder. Asked if he would hit today, Ortiz said he would.


http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/02/ortiz_on_presin.html

David Ortiz says Angel Presinal never pushed steroids on him
By Steve Buckley
Saturday, February 21, 2009

Red Sox slugger David Ortiz [stats] said this morning that a banned trainer never pushed steroids on him.

Before leaving the clubhouse in Fort Myers, Ortiz had a brief conversation with reporters about his relationship with Angel Presinal, the suspected steroids supplier who, according to The New York Daily News, has been linked to Yankees slugger Alex Rodriguez.

Asked if Presinal ever pushed him toward steroids, he said, “No. No. Not at all.”

Is Ortiz worried that his past relationship with Presinal is going to have fans associating him with steroids?

“I’m not worried about that,” he said. “I said what I had to say and that’s about it.

“I’ve known him for a long time, and all I know from him is, he teaches us how to keep our body ready, working out, teaching you how to do the right exercises, and things like that.”

Repeating some comments he made on Comcast SportsNet’s “Mohegan Sports Tonight” Friday night, Ortiz referred to Presinal as “one of the guys who trains everybody” in the Domincan Republic, adding that, in addition to baseball players, he also worked with volleyball players, basketball players and marathoners.

“It’s like an Olympic place where everybody goes and doesheir workouts, hitting, running, and other stuff.

“I only see him when I’m down there, working out, like everybody else,” he said. “He doesn’t come to the clubhouses.”

Told that Presinal has reportedly been banned from major-league clubhouses, Ortiz said, “I know. So what’s the big deal, you know?”

Ortiz added that he is careful about people with whom he comes in contact, “Especially in these days, with all stuff going on . . . you’ve got to be careful with anybody that is involved in that kind of stuff, whatever is going on right now.

“I don’t have that problem,” he said. “I’m pretty much always with my family. I’m not the kind of person that creates a relationship with strangers.”

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view/2009_02_21_David_Ortiz_says_Angel_Presinal_never_p ushed_steroids_on_him/srvc=home&position=recent

[Paulypal]

For the record: there's a reason given why Ortiz fared so much better in Boston. Minnesota's philosophy was inconsistent with Ortiz's and they tried to get him to conform to their beliefs of what a hitter should be (hit the ball to all fields, make consistent contact, hit line drives not fly balls, etc).

In Boston they just turned him loose to see what he could do. Even though his pull tendencies should, in theory, have made that a bad idea given Fenway's depth of wall out to right-center.

It's kinda like what happened in Tampa with Carlos Pena. He always had the raw power, in Tampa he just found the right approach to use it.

You cant discount anyone as a definite non user. Ortiz and Pena included. Everyone is a suspect in my opinion. You really cant take a player and because you like him you discount it. Like I said above...Rey Sanchez took them....that makes everyone a potential user.

[Berkman#17]

You cant discount anyone as a definite non user. Ortiz and Pena included. Everyone is a suspect in my opinion. You really cant take a player and because you like him you discount it. Like I said above...Rey Sanchez took them....that makes everyone a potential user.

No but you sure can use your head and come up with better reasoning than just numbers. Alot more goes into it. I.E. as has been stated probably thousands of times; the differences between Ortiz and his "hit like a little b****" (direct quote) philosophy he ran into in Minnesota, and the "let it fly big boy" philosophy in Boston. Look up his minor league numbers.

It should be that anyone who really follows baseball knows this story by now, but is always conveniently forgotten when people want to throw somebody under the bus.

Pena was a Top 10 pick, well known for his power. He's had seasons where he showed good power in the ML. He just had some other flaws that prevented a him from doing it day in and day out. In stepped Kevin Long, he got him ironed out, and now he's the player he is today.

Did Ortiz use? We don't know for sure. But just looking at his numbers and making a conclusion (or about anybody for that matter, which ridiculously happens way more than it should) is a false way to make up your mind. Full disclosure is always needed on everything that went into the jump in numbers, not some ignorant "OMG, he hit more HR's than he did 4 years ago! He must be on dat Test E!"

http://hittingillustrated.com/library/DOrtiz.gif
http://hittingillustrated.com/library/DOrtiz8.gif
Yup, same swing and approach there.

[Berkman#17]

Ortiz 3 full minor league seasons- Age/HR's
20/18
21/31
23/30

Yup, looks like the power was there.

Ortiz first 3 seasons w/ 300 AB's or more with Twins- Age/HR's
24/10
25/18
26/20

Problems transitioning to the ML level? Or being held back by the "Twins Way"? Since it has been documented by him, that the changes they made were held him back, and the changes are visibly evident when watching him swing, I'll go with the latter.

Ortiz in Boston- Age/HR's
27/31 (11 more HR's with new approach? What a shocker)
28/41
29/47
30/54
31/35 (drop in HR's but huge spike in 2b's, and he had the best overall year)
32/23 (injured much of the year)

I don't see any red flags, especially when you watch the guy swing. He's a big dude, he's got a big swing; power is his forte. It showed up when he was allowed to show it.

Who protected him when he was with Boston? Some Manny Ramirez guy. I'm sure that had no affect on his numbers at all either.

[giantsrule]

as soon as this whole arod thing blows over they're gonna release another name, then when all that blows over they're gonna release another name, etc etc...

[All-StarLF1713]

For the record: there's a reason given why Ortiz fared so much better in Boston. Minnesota's philosophy was inconsistent with Ortiz's and they tried to get him to conform to their beliefs of what a hitter should be (hit the ball to all fields, make consistent contact, hit line drives not fly balls, etc).

In Boston they just turned him loose to see what he could do. Even though his pull tendencies should, in theory, have made that a bad idea given Fenway's depth of wall out to right-center.

It's kinda like what happened in Tampa with Carlos Pena. He always had the raw power, in Tampa he just found the right approach to use it.

its in his book Big Papi. good read

[All-StarLF1713]

No but you sure can use your head and come up with better reasoning than just numbers. Alot more goes into it. I.E. as has been stated probably thousands of times; the differences between Ortiz and his "hit like a little b****" (direct quote) philosophy he ran into in Minnesota, and the "let it fly big boy" philosophy in Boston. Look up his minor league numbers.

It should be that anyone who really follows baseball knows this story by now, but is always conveniently forgotten when people want to throw somebody under the bus.

Pena was a Top 10 pick, well known for his power. He's had seasons where he showed good power in the ML. He just had some other flaws that prevented a him from doing it day in and day out. In stepped Kevin Long, he got him ironed out, and now he's the player he is today.

Did Ortiz use? We don't know for sure. But just looking at his numbers and making a conclusion (or about anybody for that matter, which ridiculously happens way more than it should) is a false way to make up your mind. Full disclosure is always needed on everything that went into the jump in numbers, not some ignorant "OMG, he hit more HR's than he did 4 years ago! He must be on dat Test E!"

http://hittingillustrated.com/library/DOrtiz.gif
http://hittingillustrated.com/library/DOrtiz8.gif
Yup, same swing and approach there.

first pic, hitting inside of ball. 2nd, coming around it more

[Berkman#17]

Not really. He stayed inside on both, the first is exaggerated because he had to bring his hands way in to avoid getting jammed. The second one he extended over the plate. It only looks like he came around it if you don't really know what "stay inside the ball" really means.

And I seriously hope those are not the only differences you see. They are glaringly obvious.

[FedEx]

Ortiz 3 full minor league seasons- Age/HR's
20/18
21/31
23/30

Yup, looks like the power was there.

Ortiz first 3 seasons w/ 300 AB's or more with Twins- Age/HR's
24/10
25/18
26/20

Problems transitioning to the ML level? Or being held back by the "Twins Way"? Since it has been documented by him, that the changes they made were held him back, and the changes are visibly evident when watching him swing, I'll go with the latter.

Ortiz in Boston- Age/HR's
27/31 (11 more HR's with new approach? What a shocker)
28/41
29/47
30/54
31/35 (drop in HR's but huge spike in 2b's, and he had the best overall year)
32/23 (injured much of the year)

I don't see any red flags, especially when you watch the guy swing. He's a big dude, he's got a big swing; power is his forte. It showed up when he was allowed to show it.

Who protected him when he was with Boston? Some Manny Ramirez guy. I'm sure that had no affect on his numbers at all either.

Definitely, I use to be in the maybe Ortiz did steroids camp but I see now there are tons of factors that effect his "sudden" rise in home runs.

Think of the philosophies and the ballparks, and hell think of the time spent in the majors. It all adds up to a guy who had a ton of raw power in the minors, got to the big leagues was forced to mold into the "Twins way" which does not consist of driving it as far as possible. Look at the strikeout numbers, that should tell a lot of the story on how the two team philosophies differed.

[STLCards2]

Nobody has mentioned park factors much - how much easier or harder is it for a lefty to hit a HR in Boston vs. Minnesota?

[keystone]

Radomski said on XM the other day that ball players would be "fools" not to be taking HGH as long as there is no test for it.

So, maybe that explains Pujols?

[STLCards2]

Radomski said on XM the other day that ball players would be "fools" not to be taking HGH as long as there is no test for it.

So, maybe that explains Pujols?

Or maybe Pujols is clean. Until we hear of failed tests, there is not point of speculating.

There seems to be alot of people who seem to almost want Pujols, Ortiz, and few others to be on steroids. "See, your favorite player is on roids too!"

Example - I remember very clearly how many excited Bonds fans there were when Clemens was found out.

[FedEx]

That's why I've gotten to the point of who cares anymore. Lets just get some testing now and put the whole thing behind us. We may never know who was all taking, there is no point in nitpicking a few bigger guys while leaving out the hundreds of others.

I could care less anymore.

And unfortunately it's MLB's fault. Right now it's guitly until proven innocent... sadly.

[Dirt Dog]

One can't correctly identify a player that has used steroids by always using an eye test (getting bigger) or stats (getting better or worse) for that matter.

[keystone]

I'm going there with you, FedEx... Let's play some ball.

[gwynnfan]

A couple of points. I said I "wondered" about Papi. I did not say Ortiz IS a steroid user. I made a post, I did not write an article for ESPN. I am an Ortiz fan and dislike ARod. Always have always will. I really don't care if he did or didn't use.

Just because Ortiz book said it was Minn not me, doesn't mean its 100% true. If he did take anything what would you expect him to say, Oh I took roids, that's why.

My opinion is that he probably did not take anything. But I also did not think ARod or Clemens did either. So who really knows.

Ortiz started with Seattle with no power and hit for average.

In Twins minor league system he started to hit with power.

2001-2008 the Metrodome was more difficult for hitting Home runs then Fenway Park.

Ortiz strike out percentage went down in Boston. 23% in Minn, 20% in Boston.

Ortiz first 3 season with Minn his home run totals were lower. But in Boston he had a 50% increase in AB's. Playing full time also helps with #'s.

Of course it helps batting in front of Manny compared to hitting in front of Hunter and Koske. ( actually Hunter had his best season behind Ortiz and Koske in front of him )


I hope Ortiz has never used. If I had to bet I would say no. If he did I hope he never gets outed.


What do you attribute Brady Anderson 50 HR total to? His first 4 seasons he had 1081 AB's with 10 HR. Then his next 10 years playing full time 21, 13, 12, 16, 50, 18, 18, 24, 19, 8, his lowest AB's was 430 when he hit 8 HR and averaged 545 Ab's for the other years. Where did the 50 come from? Was it the equivalent to hitting the lottery? Going from 1 HR in every 45 ABs to 1 in 11?

[DGDGBD]

2001-2008 the Metrodome was more difficult for hitting Home runs then Fenway Park.

Especially for a lefty, I would think just the opposite.

[gwynnfan]

Especially for a lefty, I would think just the opposite.

The plus Ortiz has are the hooking HR's wrapped around Pesky's pole. He does hit a few of them. He hits alot that go just foul and I am sure that puts a thought in the pitchers mind.

I agree he has got better. I agree that his is more confident now. Career
124 HR at home, 165 HR on the road. Minn #'s 36% at home, Fenway 45% at home. He has also hit 50 BA points higher at Fenway then on the road. So it looks like he had a tougher time in Mnn at home. He has hit more career HR's at Tropicana Field then the Metrodome. Some players like/dislike to hit in certain ballparks. That could have been a factor too.