2010 hof ballot

[Pine Tar]

Who do you think deserves to go to the hall from next year's new comers? I think there are some really interesting first-timers on the ballot next year. It is really difficult to predict what the voters will think of them but that doesn't matter right now. THe question is, what do you think of them? I'll only include the one that I believe have a reasonable argument.

[Captain Cold Nose]

I think both Larkin and Alomar will get in, deservedly, but don't think either will get in next year. Martinez's lack of counting stats, as a guy who did nothing but hit, will hurt him in the voter's eyes. Very popular player, especially around Seattle, but that doesn't go too far.

McGriff's numbers have been dwarfed by steroid-accussed players, and that does hurt him. He was a fine player, one who has a solid argument. Classy guy, apparently, too. He may well be on the ballot for a long time.

[KCGHOST]

This is a brutal ballot. Particularly when you realize that there are some serious incumbents who will also be on the ballot: Dawson, Raines, Blyleven, Trammell, McGwire, Morris, Lee Smith etc. You can certainly see this vote being splintered all to heck and no one being elected.

Of the group above I would definitely vote for Alomar and Larkin and would strongly think about Martinez and McGriff.

[Seattle1]

Didn't Alomar spit on an umpire though? That shows poor sportsmanship.

:twocents:

[Yankwood]

None should be an option....

[OleMissCub]

Didn't Alomar spit on an umpire though? That shows poor sportsmanship.

:twocents:

Babe Ruth punched an umpire in the face on two different occasions.

[Domenic]

Roberto Alomar and Barry Larkin are in, Martinez and McGriff are close, and I'm not sure if anyone will make it next year.

[Captain Cold Nose]

None should be an option....

Are you advocating none or just saying?

[NewYork NewYork]

I believe Alomar, Larkin, and Edgar deserve to make it. I think all of them have a good shot at eventually making the HOF but I wouldn't bet on any of them making it 1st Ballot.

Alomar has the best shot, but I think he'll have to wait a couple of years since Blyleven and Dawson will likely get in before him.

I can already envision Barry Larkin getting Tim Raines type of support. Raines will eventually get in and so will Larkin, but these guys will likely have to wait several years. Despite being every bit as good as Ripken and Jeter (and Alomar), Larkin is going to be penalized for the amount of games he missed per year. If he played 150+ games per year like Jeter and Ripken, he would be a 1st Ballot Lock.

Edgar is a very interesting name for obvious reasons, it'll be very interesting to see how the voters treat a DH. Although I think he deserves to get in, I think it's a toss up as to whether he ever gets voted in.

McGriff was a very good player but I wouldn't vote him in. But he might also have a slightly better chance than Edgar of actually making it in. He's comparable to the last couple of first baseman who've been voted in. But more likely than not, McGriff is going to be a guy who'll get enough support to be on the ballot for 15 years but never get voted in.

Wow, I didn't realize Ellis Burks was so good. I still wouldn't put him in the Hall, but he's much closer to HOF caliber than I thought he was. Unfortunately, I don't think he has a shot to make it. I'd be surprised if he stayed on the ballot for a couple of years, although I do expect him to break the 5% mark next year. At best, I think he could possibly get Dale Murphy type of support and stay on the ballot for 15 years. But Murphy won 2 MVP Awards, Ellis flew under the radar throughout his career (although Murphy vs. Ellis is arguable).

Andres Galarraga was the man but the guy has no real shot. I'd give him a 50/50 shot of breaking the 5% requirement but he'll be off the ballot soon.

[Yankwood]

Are you advocating none or just saying?Just saying that generally with every list "none" should be an option. Although with this list "none" specifically.

[jjpm74]

Roberto Alomar
Barry Larkin

I accidentally checked off Edgar Martinez instead of Barry Larkin.

[Seattle1]

Roberto Alomar
Barry Larkin

I accidentally checked off Edgar Martinez instead of Barry Larkin.

That's no problem, you're still on solid footing with Edgar!

:)

[downstairs]

Just saying that generally with every list "none" should be an option. Although with this list "none" specifically.

Yep, and that's my vote. Although I'm on the fence with Alomar.

I'm really picky with who I'd vote for.

[philkid3]

Alomar, Larkin and Martinez, easily. McGriff I'm close on.

[STLCards2]

Alomar and Larkin should be no-brainers, I hear and understand both arguments for and against McGriff and Martinez and have gone back and forth on both of them. I would be comfortable putting them both in at this point.

[Greg Maddux's Biggest Fan]

Alomar for sure; Larkin on the fence with, so I only voted Alomar for now.

[Fuzzy Bear]

This is a brutal ballot. Particularly when you realize that there are some serious incumbents who will also be on the ballot: Dawson, Raines, Blyleven, Trammell, McGwire, Morris, Lee Smith etc. You can certainly see this vote being splintered all to heck and no one being elected.

Of the group above I would definitely vote for Alomar and Larkin and would strongly think about Martinez and McGriff.


I'd vote for all 4 you suggest. As well as others.

[Pine Tar]

Alomar, Larkin and Martinez, easily. McGriff I'm close on.

As this poll seems to suggest, unfortunately, I believe it is going to be hard for McGriff to get in. To me, he really is a no-brainer. During his peak years of 88-94 it is arguable that he was the best hitter in baseball not named Bonds. There is also an argument to be made that during that same time he was the best power hitter in baseball. That is 7 years of being at the top of baseball. That and the fact that he stuck around to accumulate respectable hof career stats should be enough imho.

[Greg Maddux's Biggest Fan]

As this poll seems to suggest, unfortunately, I believe it is going to be hard for McGriff to get in. To me, he really is a no-brainer. During his peak years of 88-94 it is arguable that he was the best hitter in baseball not named Bonds. There is also an argument to be made that during that same time he was the best power hitter in baseball. That is 7 years of being at the top of baseball. That and the fact that he stuck around to accumulate respectable hof career stats should be enough imho.

In any other era McGriff would be in. But in this golden era of offence, he probably falls short unfortunately. Always had been a big McGriff fan when he was a blue jay.

[Fuzzy Bear]

In any other era McGriff would be in. But in this golden era of offence, he probably falls short unfortunately. Always had been a big McGriff fan when he was a blue jay.

McGriff doesn't have 500 HRs because of 2 factors:

(A) The 1994-95 strike and the missed games as a result of labor difficulties

(B) The Blue Jays' failure to make him a regular when he was ready. (McGriff had to wait while the Jays foolishly waited for Willie Upshaw to "regain his form".

He's got my vote.