Paul Wendt
12-05-2008, 02:47 PM
Also-Ran Pitchers covers the losers in phase one of "Top 100 Pitchers". Here we are selecting the best of those also-rans in a series of polls something like the hundred pitchers polls. Please use the same criteria you do use or would use for the hundred pitchers.
That is the project or game. Frankly, my main purpose is to try out and demonstrate a system for projects like this. There will not be much discussion of the method initially but the pace will be faster than it would if ranking the also-rans were important. I will post polls without deadlines but the leaders might advance any time after 48 hours and ten votes.
This poll 2-E matches seven winners from poll 2-C, who should be the best of those who tallied only one vote or no votes in "Top 100 Pitchers", and three strong showers from poll 2-B, who should be among the stronger also-rans with two or more votes.
add:
Bold marks the three winners, and for once it's a rout. (more information below (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1379522&postcount=7))
The poll remains open.
The ballot lists candidates and their major league debut years in alphabetical order.
Here they are in chronological order.
UPPERCASE names identify mainly-relief pitchers and UPPERCASE surnames identify intermediate careers.
'DT' and the player name are linked to player pages at BaseballProspectus and Baseball-Reference.
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/newsobo01.php) : Bobo Newsom (http://www.baseball-reference.com/n/newsobo01.shtml), debut 1929
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/passecl01.php) : Claude Passeau (http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/passecl01.shtml), 1935
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/blackew01.php) : Ewell Blackwell (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/blackew01.shtml), 1942
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/frienbo01.php) : Bob Friend (http://www.baseball-reference.com/f/frienbo01.shtml), 1951
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/cuellmi01.php) : Mike Cuellar (http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/cuellmi01.shtml), 1959
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/stottme01.php) : Mel Stottlemyre (http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/stottme01.shtml), 1964
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/niekrjo01.php) : Joe Niekro (http://www.baseball-reference.com/n/niekrjo01.shtml), 1967
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/sutclri01.php) : Rick Sutcliffe (http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/sutclri01.shtml), 1976
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/langsma01.php) : Mark Langston (http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/langsma01.shtml), 1984
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/moyerja01.php) : Jamie Moyer (http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/moyerja01.shtml), 1986
Vote for 3 of 10
There will be three winners who advance to stage three and contend with the remainders from poll 3-B for high rungs on the ladder.
Never mind the number-lettering of this series. There are four classes of polls; one is numbered "1-x" and another "3-x" but this subset numbered "2-x" is a mix. This is the third or fourth "Also-Ran" poll for everyone on the ballot, one in stage one and the others in neverending stage two. (It is the fourth for Jamie Moyer and Mel Stottlemyre who have 2-1 won-lost records, in baseball speak.)
That is the project or game. Frankly, my main purpose is to try out and demonstrate a system for projects like this. There will not be much discussion of the method initially but the pace will be faster than it would if ranking the also-rans were important. I will post polls without deadlines but the leaders might advance any time after 48 hours and ten votes.
This poll 2-E matches seven winners from poll 2-C, who should be the best of those who tallied only one vote or no votes in "Top 100 Pitchers", and three strong showers from poll 2-B, who should be among the stronger also-rans with two or more votes.
add:
Bold marks the three winners, and for once it's a rout. (more information below (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1379522&postcount=7))
The poll remains open.
The ballot lists candidates and their major league debut years in alphabetical order.
Here they are in chronological order.
UPPERCASE names identify mainly-relief pitchers and UPPERCASE surnames identify intermediate careers.
'DT' and the player name are linked to player pages at BaseballProspectus and Baseball-Reference.
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/newsobo01.php) : Bobo Newsom (http://www.baseball-reference.com/n/newsobo01.shtml), debut 1929
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/passecl01.php) : Claude Passeau (http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/passecl01.shtml), 1935
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/blackew01.php) : Ewell Blackwell (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/blackew01.shtml), 1942
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/frienbo01.php) : Bob Friend (http://www.baseball-reference.com/f/frienbo01.shtml), 1951
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/cuellmi01.php) : Mike Cuellar (http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/cuellmi01.shtml), 1959
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/stottme01.php) : Mel Stottlemyre (http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/stottme01.shtml), 1964
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/niekrjo01.php) : Joe Niekro (http://www.baseball-reference.com/n/niekrjo01.shtml), 1967
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/sutclri01.php) : Rick Sutcliffe (http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/sutclri01.shtml), 1976
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/langsma01.php) : Mark Langston (http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/langsma01.shtml), 1984
DT (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/moyerja01.php) : Jamie Moyer (http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/moyerja01.shtml), 1986
Vote for 3 of 10
There will be three winners who advance to stage three and contend with the remainders from poll 3-B for high rungs on the ladder.
Never mind the number-lettering of this series. There are four classes of polls; one is numbered "1-x" and another "3-x" but this subset numbered "2-x" is a mix. This is the third or fourth "Also-Ran" poll for everyone on the ballot, one in stage one and the others in neverending stage two. (It is the fourth for Jamie Moyer and Mel Stottlemyre who have 2-1 won-lost records, in baseball speak.)