28 Pounds of Steroids and other PEDs found in Roger Clemens' House

[Cowtipper]

Click this link for more on the story:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3b7EubRQtE

Here's another story on it.

West Dalton Press
Pete Cobb
Wednesday, November 19, 2008

TEXAS – Approximately 28 pounds of steroids and other PEDs were found in the household of famed baseball pitcher Roger Clemens. It is unknown how many of the performance enhancers are illegal and how many are legal, however one source says “at least 80% are illegal without a prescription.”

Roger Clemens played for 24 years in Major League Baseball, going 354-184 with a 3.12 ERA. Many assumed he was going to be a first-ballot Hall of Famer when he retired, even possibly earning a unanimous election. However, since the Mitchell Report, more and more suspicion has accrued over whether Clemens used steroids. Jose Canseco says he did. Andy Pettitte says so too. Now, it looks like there may be proof.

The story is developing, and more will be reported as more information is uncovered.

[OleMissCub]

I don't think that is real

[Cowtipper]

I don't think that is real

Did you watch the video? It looks real to me.

[Evangelion]

A music video?

[NYMets523]

The video is a Rick Roll. Do you have a link to the story from like CNN or something?

[OleMissCub]

The video is a Rick Roll. Do you have a link to the story from like CNN or something?

It's a fake story too. The West Dalton Press is a gag affiliate.

[Dalkowski110]

"Pete Cobb"

Ya gonna do "Ty Rose" next time you Rick Roll us? :rolleyes:

[philkid3]

I feel like I'm the only person who appreciates the epicness of this thread. :laugh

Very good, Cowtipper. Very good.

[STLCards2]

Rick Astley rocks!:cool::ughh

[Captain Cold Nose]

Suspicion can be accrued?

[babaganoosh]

The story is developing, and more will be reported as more information is uncovered.
Is anybody else excited about what information is going to be uncovered by Mr. Cowtipper? :D

[Captain Cold Nose]

Is anybody else excited about what information is going to be uncovered by Mr. Cowtipper? :D

It's accruing as we speak.

[KCGHOST]

YouTube?? For crying out loud, your just as well off watching CNN for accurate news. :banghead:

[AstrosFan]

I love this song.

[AstrosFan]

YouTube?? For crying out loud, your just as well off watching CNN for accurate news. :banghead:

What is the best television station for accurate news?

[J W]

What is the best television station for accurate news?

Isn't that a contradiction? :p

[philkid3]

YouTube?? For crying out loud, your just as well off watching CNN for accurate news. :banghead:

I'm guessing you didn't click the link. . .

[digglahhh]

Rick Rolling...

Welcome to two years ago.

May I interest you in discussion about stuff white people like?...

Consumption Junction for lyfe!!

[cardsfanatic]

What is the best television station for accurate news?

Time and Newsweek for me. :P

[Cowtipper]

Newsweek is just as liberal as NBC. Time isn't too far behind.

Back to baseball, haha.

[Mattingly]

Since this is more about The Onion style of fun, rather than headline news for all the TV networks (Clemens could never be that stupid to do this), there's only one suitable spot for it to me, and it's not CE: it's BI.

Moving.

[cardsfanatic]

Newsweek is just as liberal as NBC. Time isn't too far behind.

Back to baseball, haha.

Blah blah.

[Cowtipper]

I take it you are a subscriber then? Because, see... I read every issue and when their articles are contributed by people like Bill Kristol and so forth, I'd hardly call either "liberal". But they also have some liberal journalists as well. When they debate things they always give both sides of the issue. One of my favorites was their God vs Science issues. They represented both sides equally... which is what any news publication should do.

I find half the people that buy into mass labeling of the media typically don't know the first thign about it. I wouldn't be surprised at all if you've read 2-3 copies of Newsweek and Time in your entire life, honestly.

Nah, I used to get Time as a subscription and I've read plenty of Newsweek, and both always seem to take the liberal side of issues.

[cardsfanatic]

Nah, I used to get Time as a subscription and I've read plenty of Newsweek, and both always seem to take the liberal side of issues.

Blah, blah.

[AstrosFan]

Since we're on the subject of slanted news, I'm nominating Keith Olbermann for commissioner of baseball right now. I don't care how liberal he is. He's smart, tough, has sports experience, and is an Ivy League graduate. Selig, you're out.

While a liberal myself, I watch Countdown for entertainment, rather than for news. I get most of my news from newspapers, particularly the Wall Street Journal. Out of all the television news programs, I prefer NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams.

[STLCards2]

Since we're on the subject of slanted news, I'm nominating Keith Olbermann for commissioner of baseball right now. I don't care how liberal he is. He's smart, tough, has sports experience, and is an Ivy League graduate. Selig, you're out.

While a liberal myself, I watch Countdown for entertainment, rather than for news. I get most of my news from newspapers, particularly the Wall Street Journal. Out of all the television news programs, I prefer NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams.

I can't stand any of the "angry" patisans - Olbermann, O'Riley, Linbaugh, the lady who takes over for Olbermann sometimes (what's her name), etc. I wouldn't want any of them running anything important to me. Why? They are often times: irrational, unable to listen to contrary points of view, hateful towards those who disagree, never admitting that the other side has made a good point, always backing up their guys-even if they get busted with hookers and drugs, etc., and allow emotions to cloud better judgement. I lean a certain way on the politcal spectrum, but don't want to listen to any of them on radio or T.V. or let them run MLB.

In case anybody cares (which I am sure they don't) I like Hannity and Colmes - I bet they hang out after shows sometimes. As much as I disagree politicaly with one of them - I could see myself going to dinner with him and talking about stuff and it be alright.

[AstrosFan]

You really think Olbermann acts like that in real life? He's created a liberal pundit show to counter conservative shows like Hannity and Colmes and The O'Reilly Factor. The angry liberal is just the style that he uses in the vehicle of television political punditry. Yes, I expect he is very liberal, but to judge his credentials based on Countdown is ridiculous. Olbermann, or conversely, a conservative in a similar situation, will approach situations with baseball's best interests at heart. To say he would be unwilling to listen to any argument but his own, or that he would never say anything good about a conservative argument or bad about a liberal argument, is a huge reach. Countdown is inspired by Olbermann's views, but a lot of it is just an act, just as O'Reilly is. He's looking to draw viewers. Yes, this was a whimsical nomination, but don't assume his behavior as commissioner would be a reflection of what he does on Countdown.

[STLCards2]

You really think Olbermann acts like that in real life? He's created a liberal pundit show to counter conservative shows like Hannity and Colmes and The O'Reilly Factor. The angry liberal is just the style that he uses in the vehicle of television political punditry. Yes, I expect he is very liberal, but to judge his credentials based on Countdown is ridiculous. Olbermann, or conversely, a conservative in a similar situation, will approach situations with baseball's best interests at heart. To say he would be unwilling to listen to any argument but his own, or that he would never say anything good about a conservative argument or bad about a liberal argument, is a huge reach. Countdown is inspired by Olbermann's views, but a lot of it is just an act, just as O'Reilly is. He's looking to draw viewers. Yes, this was a whimsical nomination, but don't assume his behavior as commissioner would be a reflection of what he does on Countdown.

Do you think Rush is an angry, mean-spirited consevative in real life? I do.

If so, why do you give the benefit of the doubt to Olbermann? If you don't think Rush is those things - would you support him as comissioner of baseball?

"He's created a liberal pundit show to counteract conservative shows"

You act like the liberal media is in defense mode!:laugh Even the biggest liberals I know admit the media is overall very liberal outside of Foxnews (Fair and Balanced my rear) which was created to counteract NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, etc, etc, etc. They embrace it and are very happy for how it helps in elections.

Olbermann may not be as radical as his show indicates, but I am sure there would be enough good candidates out their to seek somebody a little safer.

You said yourself that his mentioning was "whimsical." Why defend a "whimsical" selection so hard?

[Mattingly]

Well, neither one endorses Presidential candidates but Time certainly pushed hard for Mike Huckabee. I think just about all of the contributors there had a crush on Huckabee. Their coverage of the Presidential election was pretty fair as well. They stuck to primarily just the issues. Time's intro editorial and outro editorial are both written by conservatives with the page right before the last typically occupying a liberal editorial. Newsweek was one of the first news publications to back the surge as well. In fact, they were lobbying for one in 2006 after interviewing several generals. Nearly a few year and a half before the people in charge actually bothered to do that.

I don't really read the news so I can agree with everything said, though. I care only about the facts. The reason I like TIME is because they are thorough. Instead of rushing a story to the market to make a buck they'll come out with a story 2-3 weeks later than everyone else but the immense time and effort spent on the story is well worth the wait.
Between yourself and Astros Fan, you two may need to brememner the baseball only policy around here.

Can people in this thread only discuss Newsweek, Time, Maher, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Huckabee and others as they relate to baseball? Who'd have thought it was a cute post about Clemens to start this thread?

[Cowtipper]

In some cosmic manner, everything relates to baseball in some way, shape or form.

[Mattingly]

In some cosmic manner, everything relates to baseball in some way, shape or form.
In that case, should we discuss nuclar disarmament or the last US Presidential election?

Unless this thread actually returns to a baseball discussion, be it the spoof originaly about Clemens and/or otherwise, then it won't be around for very long.

If you feel that Newsweek, Time, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity & Colbert all have a baseball connection, then please connect the dots and do share, telling me what the baseball connection truly is. If any of those newsweeklies and/or political commentators have a baseball opinion, please do let the rest of us know what specifically this is.

[AstrosFan]

Between yourself and Astros Fan, you two may need to brememner the baseball only policy around here.

Can people in this thread only discuss Newsweek, Time, Maher, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Huckabee and others as they relate to baseball? Who'd have thought it was a cute post about Clemens to start this thread?

I've been discussing Olbermann as the future baseball commissioner, but I get your point :) The political points I was making was simply that I felt Olbermann's could approach the job as a baseball fan first, despite his ultra-liberal bent, given that he has experience in objectivity as a reporter. Still, I do agree that we've gone off-topic, and I apologize.

Re: StlCards2 - I was referring only to pundit shows, rather than news shows with a political slant. I didn't mean to imply that the media was controlled by conservatives. Olbermann's show is the only pundit show I know of that is staunchly liberal, thought I may be clueless on that matter. Perhaps Hardball? (You should probably not answer that question, as we've already been warned.)

[cardsfanatic]

Between yourself and Astros Fan, you two may need to brememner the baseball only policy around here.

Can people in this thread only discuss Newsweek, Time, Maher, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Huckabee and others as they relate to baseball? Who'd have thought it was a cute post about Clemens to start this thread?

Well, is it also board policy to allow false news stories to be posted about a player, accusing him of possessing 28 pounds of steroids? If that's not over the line then I can't see much harm in any of my posts. Just let it be known I wasn't the one who took this ridiculous thread down the path of questioning news sources but I'll take the blame for my posts. I'll even edit them so they no longer contain anything about politics. From here on out I'll just stick to falsely accusing players of possessing illegal substances and rick rolling people. ;)

[Mattingly]

I've been discussing Olbermann as the future baseball commissioner, but I get your point :) The political points I was making was simply that I felt Olbermann's could approach the job as a baseball fan first, despite his ultra-liberal bent, given that he has experience in objectivity as a reporter. Still, I do agree that we've gone off-topic, and I apologize.

Re: StlCards2 - I was referring only to pundit shows, rather than news shows with a political slant. I didn't mean to imply that the media was controlled by conservatives. Olbermann's show is the only pundit show I know of that is staunchly liberal, thought I may be clueless on that matter. Perhaps Hardball? (You should probably not answer that question, as we've already been warned.)
Well, if discussing Olbermann and anyone else in a baseball role, be it Commissioner (he couldn't possibly be worse than the incumbent), in Fehr's position, etc, please feel free to do so. As long as we get a lot more of the baseball side, or at least what makes the person's mentality and/or outlook suitable or unsuitable for the job, I have no problem.

Thanks for your understanding. I'm not too worried about whether the people mentioned are conservative, liberal or however. It could be Jerry Springer or Maury Povich for all I care. So long as it's about baseball or somewhere related, I'm fine. :)

Enjoy. :D

[Mattingly]

Well, is it also board policy to allow false news stories to be posted about a player, accusing him of possessing 28 pounds of steroids? If that's not over the line then I can't see much harm in any of my posts. Just let it be known I wasn't the one who took this ridiculous thread down the path of questioning news sources but I'll take the blame for my posts. I'll even edit them so they no longer contain anything about politics. From here on out I'll just stick to falsely accusing players of possessing illegal substances and rick rolling people. ;)
I'm glad to see the winkie smiley at the end. I was about to say "Oh brother" or something.

Ehhh, this seems like one of those Onion Sports types of headlines, so I figured everyone could just go with the flow, let a decent tongue-in-cheek sense of humor kick in. :p

In semi-related news, Debbie Clemens Forced To Explain Lifetime 0.00 ERA (http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/debbie_clemens_forced_to) :D

[DownUnderDodger]

It could be Jerry Springer..... So long as it's about baseball or somewhere related, I'm fine. :)


I could not possibly lower myself to watch Jerry Springer but I would not be surprised if some of his stooges carry baseball bats to quell the fire in some of the protagonists he apparently gets on his show :D And they probably all use steroids. So I guess there is a link to baseball, steroids, and the spoof originally about Clemens....but then there is probably not....sorry!!

cardsfanatic, from my understanding this forum is designed for things such as the spoof about Clemens, which is not really an accusation against him. It certainly helps the off season flow a little quicker and adds some off-the cuff-baseball fun during the season, aside from the serious aspects of the game covered in Current Events and other forums.

[Hysteria]

Ok I we all know the the Rocket used roids. But 28 POUNDS in his house is a little ridiculous.

[EddieBrinkman'sGlove]

Keith Olbermann sucks! You ever notice how he never has anyone on his show with an opposing point of view? It's because he's not smart enough. I hated him on ESPN also. He ruined watching sportscenter for me with his lame attempts at humor. I even hate the way that douchbag looks. I swear if I saw him in person I'm throwing punches at that fat lard.


MY HATE LIST

1. Bin Laden
2. Olbermann
3. The guy that's on after his show

[ipitch]

In semi-related news, Debbie Clemens Forced To Explain Lifetime 0.00 ERA (http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/debbie_clemens_forced_to) :D

I can explain it for her. Her ERA is not 0.00, it's undefined. :nod:

[whoisonit]

Keith Olbermann sucks! You ever notice how he never has anyone on his show with an opposing point of view? It's because he's not smart enough. I hated him on ESPN also. He ruined watching sportscenter for me with his lame attempts at humor. I even hate the way that douchbag looks. I swear if I saw him in person I'm throwing punches at that fat lard.

MY HATE LIST

1. Bin Laden
2. Olbermann
3. The guy that's on after his show

lol, It really would be better if you edited your post to say: " I swear if I saw him in person I'm throwing high heat at the head of that limp wristed hitter". This way it's about baseball and Mattingly won't have a cow, holy or otherwise. ;)

[AstrosFan]

Keith Olbermann sucks! You ever notice how he never has anyone on his show with an opposing point of view? It's because he's not smart enough. I hated him on ESPN also. He ruined watching sportscenter for me with his lame attempts at humor. I even hate the way that douchbag looks. I swear if I saw him in person I'm throwing punches at that fat lard.


MY HATE LIST

1. Bin Laden
2. Olbermann
3. The guy that's on after his show

Just wanted to quote this for the record. Thought it was funny how angry the post was.

[Cowtipper]

In that case, should we discuss nuclar disarmament or the last US Presidential election?

Unless this thread actually returns to a baseball discussion, be it the spoof originaly about Clemens and/or otherwise, then it won't be around for very long.

If you feel that Newsweek, Time, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity & Colbert all have a baseball connection, then please connect the dots and do share, telling me what the baseball connection truly is. If any of those newsweeklies and/or political commentators have a baseball opinion, please do let the rest of us know what specifically this is.
I was being facetious.