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HecDel
09-30-2008, 05:37 PM
If I had an opportunity to vote as part of the BBWAA, my ballot would look like this - if you had a chance to vote what what yours look like ?

2008 American League Most Valuable Player

1st - Dustin Pedroia, BOS
2nd - Francisco Rodriguez, LA-A
3rd - Justin Morneau, MIN
4th - Joe Mauer , MIN
5th - Josh Hamilton, TEX
6th - Kevin Youkilis, BOS
7th - Evan Longoria, TAM
8th - Cliff Lee, CLE
9th - Jermaine Dye, CH-A
10th - Carlos Quentin, CH-A

2008 American League Manager of the Year

1st - Joe Maddon, TAM
2nd - Mike Scioscia, LA-A
3rd - Ron Gardenhire, MIN

2008 American League Cy Young Award

1st - Cliff Lee, CLE
2nd - Francisco Rodriguez, LA-A
3rd - Roy Halladay, TOR

2008 American League Rookie of the Year

1st - Evan Longoria , TAM
2nd - Jacoby Ellsbury , BOS
3rd - Alexei Ramírez , CH-A
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2008 National League Most Valuable Player

1st - Ryan Howard, PHI
2nd - Albert Pujols, STL
3rd - Ryan Braun, MIL-N
4th - Manny Ramirez, LA-N
5th - Chase Utley, PHI
6th - Carlos Beltrán, NY-N
7th - David Wright, NY-N
8th - Carlos Delgado, NY-N
9th - José Reyes, NY-N
10th - Aramis Ramírez, CH-N

2008 National League Cy Young Award

1st - Tim Lincecum , SF
2nd - Johan Santana , NY-N
3rd - Brandon Webb , ARI

2008 National League Manager of the Year

1st - Lou Pinella, Ch-N
2nd - Joe Torre, LA-N
3rd - Charlie Manuel, PHI

2008 National League Rookie of the Year

1st - Geovany Soto, CH-N
2nd - Edinson Vólquez, CIN
3rd - Joey Votto, CIN

bob
10-01-2008, 08:21 AM
I agree with most of your voting, but 2 things leap out.
1. K-rod second in AL voting? No way. He has one stat of note, and the saves stat is one of the most useless around. He isnt even in most peoples top 3 AL closers, let alone MVP top 3. And how can Cliff lee beat ahead in your CYA, but behind in MVP?
2. Howard over pujols? If this was a "This is how i think the BBWAA will vote" thread then maybe, but Pujols has had a rediculously good season, Howard just swung hard at everything and had a good lineup ahead to get alot of RBI's.
Other than those 2 i would say we agree on pretty much everything else.

gman5431
10-01-2008, 09:14 AM
If I had an opportunity to vote as part of the BBWAA, my ballot would look like this -

2008 American League Most Valuable Player

1st - Dustin Pedroia, BOS
2nd - Justin Morneau, MIN
3rd - Kevin Youkilis, BOS
4th - Joe Mauer , MIN
5th - Josh Hamilton, TEX
6th - Carlos Quentin, CH-A
7th - Evan Longoria, TAM
8th - Jermaine Dye, CH-A
9th - Miguel Cabrera, DET
10th - Grady Sizemore, CLE

As a rule, i do not vote for pitchers for MVP. They have their own award. Especially wouldnt vote for a reliever who only plays 70 - 80 innings a year, at most. Having K-Rod second in MVP voting is a joke, especially when he is ranked lower in Cy Young, as pointed out earlier.

2008 American League Manager of the Year

1st - Joe Maddon, TAM
2nd - Ron Gardenhire, MIN
3rd - Mike Scioscia, LA-A

2008 American League Cy Young Award

1st - Cliff Lee, CLE
2nd - Roy Halladay, TOR
3rd - Francisco Rodriguez, LA-A (only reason i dont vote Mussina here is because he is a Yankee)

2008 American League Rookie of the Year

1st - Evan Longoria , TAM
2nd - Jacoby Ellsbury , BOS
3rd - Alexei Ramírez , CH-A
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2008 National League Most Valuable Player

1st - Ryan Howard, PHI
2nd - Albert Pujols, STL
3rd - Ryan Braun, MIL-N
4th - Manny Ramirez, LA-N
5th - David Wright, NY-N
6th - Carlos Beltrán, NY-N
7th - Chase Utley, PHI
8th - Carlos Delgado, NY-N
9th - José Reyes, NY-N
10th - Aramis Ramírez, CH-N

Cant really argue with any of the previous picks. I know that Albert statistically had a better season then Howard. I know he is more valuable. I know he is a better all around player. However, since Howard lead his team to the playoffs and more importantly, because i have a man-crush on him, he would get my vote. Not great reasoning, but honest truth nonetheless.

2008 National League Cy Young Award

1st - Tim Lincecum , SF
2nd - Johan Santana , NY-N
3rd (tie) - Brandon Webb , ARI and CC Sabathia, MIL

2008 National League Manager of the Year

1st - Joe Torre, LA-N
2nd - Charlie Manuel, PHI
3rd - Tony LaRussa, STL

2008 National League Rookie of the Year

1st - Geovany Soto, CH-N
2nd - Joey Votto, CIN
3rd - Jay Bruce, CIN

Edinson is not a rookie, he pitched over 80 innings in 3 seasons with Texas, at least i think so.

G Rizzle

MagsMigs
10-01-2008, 09:30 AM
Good deal! Here's mine...

AL MVP

1. Dustin Pedroia, Bos
2. Justin Morneau, Min
3. Kevin Youkilis, Bos
4. Joe Mauer, Min
5. Josh Hamilton, Tex
6. Francisco Rodriguez, LAA
7. Joe Nathan, Min
8. Cliff Lee, Cle
9. Carlos Quentin, Chi
10. Alex Rodriguez, NYY


AL Cy Young

1. Cliff Lee, Cle
2. Roy Halladay, Tor
3. Mariano Rivera, NYY


AL RoY

1. Evan Longoria, TBR
2. Alexei Ramirez, ChW
3. Armando Galarraga, Det


AL MoY

1. Ron Gardenhire, Min
2. Joe Maddon, TBR
3. Mike Scioscia, LAA


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NL MVP

1. Albert Pujols, StL
2. Chase Utley, Phi
3. Ryan Braun, Mil
4. David Wright, NYM
5. CC Sabathia, Mil
6. Manny Ramirez, LAD
7. Hanley Ramirez, Fla
8. Brad Lidge, Phi
9. Ryan Howard, Phi
10. Carlos Delgado, NYM


NL Cy Young

1. Tim Lincecum, SFG
2. Johan Santana, NYM
3. Brad Lidge, Phi


NL RoY

1. Geovany Soto, ChC
2. Jair Jurrjens, Atl
3. Joey Votto, Cin

Domenic
10-01-2008, 09:34 AM
2008 American League Most Valuable Player

1st - Kevin Youkilis, BOS
2nd - Dustin Pedroia, BOS
3rd - Justin Morneau, MIN
4th - Joe Mauer, MIN
5th - Grady Sizemore, CLE
6th - Alex Rodriguez, NYY
7th - Josh Hamilton, TEX
8th - Evan Longoria, TAM
9th - Jermaine Dye, CHW
10th - Carlos Quentin, CHW

2008 American League Manager of the Year

1st - Joe Maddon, TAM
2nd - Cito Gaston, TOR
3rd - Joe Girardi, NYY

2008 American League Cy Young Award

1st - Roy Halladay, TOR
2nd - Cliff Lee, CLE
3rd - Mike Mussina, NYY

2008 American League Rookie of the Year

1st - Evan Longoria , TAM
2nd - Mike Viles, KC
3rd - Alexei Ramírez , CHW
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2008 National League Most Valuable Player

1st - Albert Pujols, STL
2nd - Hanley Ramirez, FLA
3rd - Manny Ramirez, LAD
4th - Ryan Braun, MIL
5th - Lance Berkman, HOU
6th - Chase Utley, PHI
7th - David Wright, NYM
8th - Ryan Ludwick, STL
9th - Chipper Jones, ATL
10th - Aramis Ramírez, CHC

2008 National League Cy Young Award

1st - Tim Lincecum , SF
2nd - Johan Santana , NYM
3rd - CC Sabathia, MIL

2008 National League Manager of the Year

1st - Fredi Gonzalez, FLA
2nd - Joe Torre, LAD
3rd - Lou Pinella, CHC

2008 National League Rookie of the Year

1st - Geovany Soto, CHC
2nd - Jair Jurrjens, ATL
3rd - Joey Votto, CIN