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hitnpeas
09-19-2008, 10:56 AM
Did a search but couldn't find it....Any help would be appreciated. :)

Dirtberry
09-22-2008, 05:00 PM
hitnpeas,

This is one of the top strength and speed-building drills you can possibly do; it covers many areas of training with out wearing out the tosser. The tosses can be controlled extremely well in regards to location, timing and tempo. This drill is especially important for youth with high anxiety problems (stepping out) in that it builds an uninhibited swing. I use it in place of sit down soft toss when dealing with Pull and Oppo postural timing. It seems to get more maximal effort out of the batters psychi. It allows the bowler to last longer than the batter with out ill effects.

You must have an L screen turned around backwards so that the tall side is on your ball arm side or a tall protective screen to bowl around. Put the screen 15 to 20 feet in front of the batter with the ball arm side stanchion set right on the driveline between the plate and second base. Bowl a pitch around the side of the stanchion by walking towards the batter the way bowlers throw but release higher towards your belt line at which point you release so that your body is protected behind the screen.
You must teach yourself how to finish so that your hand never comes back and exposes it self to a bullet line drive back up the middle. You must keep your rear end from exposing itself also. Do not fall asleep on this!! I witnessed Fernando Tatis bleed the but cheek of one of the top batting instructors in the world “Jim Lentine” because he got loose and let his arce hang out a couple of inches! Youch.

With righties I have them warm up taking 30 hacks Oppo then 30 hacks pull while they are aware of ball location, next I do not let them know and they get 5 outside for every one inside. Amount variable

With lefties we do the same 30 count to both sides then when we go to not letting them know, I toss them 50/50 out and in, amount variable.

I do expect them to hit mistakes bowled down the middle, up the middle.

All the students love this drill and again seem to relish blasting off with mechanical control.

hitnpeas
09-22-2008, 06:32 PM
Thanks a bunch Dberry.... I am still trying to figure out who everybody is on this site but it sounds like you have some quality drills that my boys can benefit from. Are there any other drills you recommend for 7-8 year olds? Especially those that might help the kids that "step into the bucket" Thanks again!! :)

Dirtberry
09-25-2008, 01:54 AM
hitnpeas,


“. I am still trying to figure out who everybody is on this site”

There is a wide and varied group here with some tremendous mechanical breakdown from of their particular perspectives which all produce some kind of exit rotation and power measure on the ball all with positive results at times, you would be wise to glean through these pages but you better have an exit strategy because you’ll go blind! The one thing I think that is lacking here at BF is implicit drill explanations because of some kind of proprietary secretive BS that many think they own or are protecting. Very few discussions on drills from these batting philosophers.

“Are there any other drills you recommend for 7-8 year olds?”

Where I live this age group suffers from what I call T-Ball uppercut that is engrained in all of them because the dads want their children to hit the ball up in the air so they put the tee chest high and have the kids start their swings incorrectly, these very first neural signals are then passed down the road where it becomes very difficult to keep the ball off the ground with live pitching from this topspin producing backside drop loop.
There is a blessing in disguise from this though, that is if the dads put the tee knee high the kids would be hitting these undefencively manageable shots that would cause defensive anxiety and injury. So getting them going in the right direction is paramount.

I use the broken tee as a backside drop obstruction during soft toss, tee work and some time front side toss. You set the broken at the button tee up at belt high, inside behind the back foot so that it prevents backside drop at initial forward force application that in turn teaches them correct path retention and minimal contact loop.

“Especially those that might help the kids that "step into the bucket" Thanks again!!”

Batters anxiety is caused because of our rush to pitch this age group to it self.
The hit by pitch ratio is horrendous until children are Biologically 10. I think that if helmet face guards and front side high tech armor were developed to perfection and mandatory it would really help this huge problem. This problem really limits a childs ability to pivot and rotate because a proper swing mechanic involves exposing yourself to the inability to evade the errant pitch.

If they can handle learning stride and load simultaneous timing they can be taught how to evade an errant pitch by collapsing their head back and taking the contact at a skipping angle instead of a stopping thud. This can be practiced with the “sock drill” by taping up 30 old pairs of socks and letting him hit 4 of them and avoiding 1 for ten minutes. Put a chair 20 feet in front of the batter and teach him how to get dosed. This greatly reduces their anxiety because they believe they can handle the situation better.
The technique for the batter is to pivot backwards and take your chest to your backside knee that totally protects your head and front of chest the two killers of children.

In extreme cases for this age group and below only is the old placebo dried Rattle snake poison on the rubber arrow board sitting behind them trick. It works marvelously and even caries over in time. Especially if I use a little baking soda sploch and touch some water (vinegar) on it and say now it’s activated. These kids really, really don’t want that stuff on their shoes.

hitnpeas
09-25-2008, 07:45 AM
hitnpeas,




There is a wide and varied group here with some tremendous mechanical breakdown from of their particular perspectives which all produce some kind of exit rotation and power measure on the ball all with positive results at times, you would be wise to glean through these pages but you better have an exit strategy because you’ll go blind! The one thing I think that is lacking here at BF is implicit drill explanations because of some kind of proprietary secretive BS that many think they own or are protecting. Very few discussions on drills from these batting philosophers.



Where I live this age group suffers from what I call T-Ball uppercut that is engrained in all of them because the dads want their children to hit the ball up in the air so they put the tee chest high and have the kids start their swings incorrectly, these very first neural signals are then passed down the road where it becomes very difficult to keep the ball off the ground with live pitching from this topspin producing backside drop loop.
There is a blessing in disguise from this though, that is if the dads put the tee knee high the kids would be hitting these undefencively manageable shots that would cause defensive anxiety and injury. So getting them going in the right direction is paramount.

I use the broken tee as a backside drop obstruction during soft toss, tee work and some time front side toss. You set the broken at the button tee up at belt high, inside behind the back foot so that it prevents backside drop at initial forward force application that in turn teaches them correct path retention and minimal contact loop.



Batters anxiety is caused because of our rush to pitch this age group to it self.
The hit by pitch ratio is horrendous until children are Biologically 10. I think that if helmet face guards and front side high tech armor were developed to perfection and mandatory it would really help this huge problem. This problem really limits a childs ability to pivot and rotate because a proper swing mechanic involves exposing yourself to the inability to evade the errant pitch.

If they can handle learning stride and load simultaneous timing they can be taught how to evade an errant pitch by collapsing their head back and taking the contact at a skipping angle instead of a stopping thud. This can be practiced with the “sock drill” by taping up 30 old pairs of socks and letting him hit 4 of them and avoiding 1 for ten minutes. Put a chair 20 feet in front of the batter and teach him how to get dosed. This greatly reduces their anxiety because they believe they can handle the situation better.
The technique for the batter is to pivot backwards and take your chest to your backside knee that totally protects your head and front of chest the two killers of children.

In extreme cases for this age group and below only is the old placebo dried Rattle snake poison on the rubber arrow board sitting behind them trick. It works marvelously and even caries over in time. Especially if I use a little baking soda sploch and touch some water (vinegar) on it and say now it’s activated. These kids really, really don’t want that stuff on their shoes.

lmao....This sounds like something that will my kids would eat up!! Thanks for the suggestions and the laugh!! :rofl: