Triple Crown for Pujols

[brett]

A different kind-the "percentage" triple crown: BA, OB% and Slg%.

Williams and Hornsby are probably the all time leaders in percentage triple crowns.

Who else did it?

Brett in '80:)
Bonds*, twice I think.
Mantle

Ruth
Cobb


Others? Years?

[AstrosFan]

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=1175864

If you want to go before 1901, I think Hugh Duffy may have done it in 1894, but other than that, I'm not sure.

[Otis Nixon's Bodyguard]

I was hoping to find a list of winners, but couldn't. I've listed as many as I could find. It should be most of them, but I probably missed a few. As you said, it looks like Hornsby and Williams have the most, with seven and five, respectively. Wagner has four and Cobb has three. Winners of two are Bonds, Musial, and Lajoie. I also find it interesting that Williams and Hornsby each have two seasons in which they won both Triple Crowns, leading the league in BA, HR, RBI, Slg%, and OBP. Other guys to do this once include Yastrzemski, Robinson, Gehrig, Klein, Cobb, and Lajoie. Being the type of hitter he was, I was really surprised Mantle didn't do this in '56. I guess it's tough when you're in the same league as Ted Williams.

Barry Bonds - 2004 - .362/.609/.812
Barry Bonds - 2002 - .370/.582/.799
Todd Helton - 2000 - .372/.463/.698
Larry Walker - 1999 - .379/.458/.710
George Brett - 1980 - .390/.454/.664
Carl Yastrzemski - 1967 - .326/.418/.622
Frank Robinson - 1966 - .316/.410/.637
Ted Williams - 1957 - .388/.526/.731
Stan Musial - 1948 - .376/.450/.702
Ted Williams - 1948 - .369/.497/.615
Ted Williams - 1947 - .343/.499/.634
Stan Musial - 1943 - .357/.425/.562
Ted Williams - 1942 - .356/.499/.648
Ted Williams - 1941 - .406/.553/.735
Jimmie Foxx - 1938 - .349/.462/.704
Lou Gehrig - 1934 - .363/.465/.706
Chuck Klein - 1933 - .368/.422/.602
Rogers Hornsby - 1928 - .387/.498/.632
Rogers Hornsby - 1925 - .403/.489/.756
Rogers Hornsby - 1924 - .424/.507/.696
Babe Ruth - 1924 - .378/.513/.739
Rogers Hornsby - 1923 - .384/.459/.627
Rogers Hornsby - 1922 - .401/.459/.722
Rogers Hornsby - 1921 - .397/.458/.639
Rogers Hornsby - 1920 - .370/.431/.559
Ty Cobb - 1917 - .383/.444/.570
Tris Speaker - 1916 - .386/.470/.502
Ty Cobb - 1914 - .368/.466/.513
Ty Cobb - 1909 - .377/.431/.517
Honus Wagner - 1909 - .339/.420/.489
Honus Wagner - 1908 - .354/.415/.542
Honus Wagner - 1907 - .350/.408/.513
Nap Lajoie - 1904 - .376/.413/.552
Honus Wagner - 1904 - .349/.423/.520
Nap Lajoie - 1901 - .426/.463/.643

[bob]

Babe only got 1 AL triple percentage crown (1924) and no ML crown (thanks mostly to his BA).
Hornsby won the NL triple crown every year from 1920-25, an incredible achievement, although he never won the ML triple (Babe's slugging or OBP always got in the way).

Cobb won the ML crown in 1909, 1914 and 1917.
Williams won it in 41, 42 and 57. As far as i know he's the only person to do it in consecutive years.

Musial won it in 43, Brett in 1980.
Bonds was the last one to win as far as i know (2002).
There's probably quite a few more, i just didnt fancy comparing players every year.


Pujols 08 currently stands as:
BA: .360 (second Chipper at .357)
OBP: .468 (second Chipper at .458)
SLG: .642 (second Berkman at .598)

His BA is most in threat, although other than chipper theres no-one close, but its only a few hits either way right now. His OBP will likely pull ahead of chipper as he isnt the threat he was early in the season, and he would probably need a .500 OBP month to top Pujols the way he's playing. His slugging lead of .044 is huge, he wont lose that in a month.

EDIT: Nice list ONB, how many of those were leading the majors in all categories other than just their league?

[Otis Nixon's Bodyguard]

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=1175864

If you want to go before 1901, I think Hugh Duffy may have done it in 1894, but other than that, I'm not sure.

Yeah, I can now see that I did miss a few. Hopefully, between both lists, we have all of them covered. Like AstrosFan, I also didn't consider anyone before 1900.

[STLCards2]

I was hoping to find a list of winners, but couldn't. I've listed as many as I could find. It should be most of them, but I probably missed a few. As you said, it looks like Hornsby and Williams have the most, with seven and five, respectively. Wagner has four and Cobb has three. Winners of two are Bonds, Musial, and Lajoie. I also find it interesting that Williams and Hornsby each have two seasons in which they won both Triple Crowns, leading the league in BA, HR, RBI, Slg%, and OBP. Other guys to do this once include Yastrzemski, Robinson, Gehrig, Klein, Cobb, and Lajoie. Being the type of hitter he was, I was really surprised Mantle didn't do this in '56. I guess it's tough when you're in the same league as Ted Williams.

Barry Bonds - 2004 - .362/.609/.812
Barry Bonds - 2002 - .370/.582/.799
Todd Helton - 2000 - .372/.463/.698
Larry Walker - 1999 - .379/.458/.710
George Brett - 1980 - .390/.454/.664
Carl Yastrzemski - 1967 - .326/.418/.622
Frank Robinson - 1966 - .316/.410/.637
Ted Williams - 1957 - .388/.526/.731
Stan Musial - 1948 - .376/.450/.702
Ted Williams - 1948 - .369/.497/.615
Ted Williams - 1947 - .343/.499/.634
Stan Musial - 1943 - .357/.425/.562
Ted Williams - 1942 - .356/.499/.648
Ted Williams - 1941 - .406/.553/.735
Jimmie Foxx - 1938 - .349/.462/.704
Lou Gehrig - 1934 - .363/.465/.706
Chuck Klein - 1933 - .368/.422/.602
Rogers Hornsby - 1928 - .387/.498/.632
Rogers Hornsby - 1925 - .403/.489/.756
Rogers Hornsby - 1924 - .424/.507/.696
Babe Ruth - 1924 - .378/.513/.739
Rogers Hornsby - 1923 - .384/.459/.627
Rogers Hornsby - 1922 - .401/.459/.722
Rogers Hornsby - 1921 - .397/.458/.639
Rogers Hornsby - 1920 - .370/.431/.559
Ty Cobb - 1917 - .383/.444/.570
Tris Speaker - 1916 - .386/.470/.502
Ty Cobb - 1914 - .368/.466/.513
Ty Cobb - 1909 - .377/.431/.517
Honus Wagner - 1909 - .339/.420/.489
Honus Wagner - 1908 - .354/.415/.542
Honus Wagner - 1907 - .350/.408/.513
Nap Lajoie - 1904 - .376/.413/.552
Honus Wagner - 1904 - .349/.423/.520
Nap Lajoie - 1901 - .426/.463/.643

Pretty good company for having a "down year.":rofl:

[Otis Nixon's Bodyguard]

Nice list ONB, how many of those were leading the majors in all categories other than just their league?

I have no idea. I wish I had the drive to go back and look it up, but I don't. Sorry! If anyone else feels like doing it, you can use the Major League Expanded Leaderboards for each year on baseball-reference.com.

[STLCards2]

Since 1945 when the war was over, the following players have led MLB in all three:

Ted Williams - 1957
George Brett - 1980
Larry Walker - 1999
Barry Bonds - 2002

Not trying to discount those achievements or anything, but...

Brett barely qualified with enough PAs that year. Would he have won all three
with a "full" season?

Walker obviously had a major boost with Coors Field .

Bonds....well, you know.

One could make a case (could), that Ted Williams is the only person to do it since WW2 on their own merit without major (at least statisticaly significant) "outside" help. Just throwing that out there.

The only thing to stop Albert would be Chipper catching him in BA. Albert's current line is: .361/.469/.646.

Maybe somebody else can look at pre-1945. I bet Ruth, Hornsby, Cobb, and Wagner did it too. Maybe even Williams a time or two before WW2.

[STLCards2]

Here is the whole list, I think I got everybody:

Nap Lajoie - 1901
Honus Wagner -1908
Ty Cobb - 1909
Ty Cobb - 1914
Tris Speaker- 1916
Ty Cobb - 1917
Rogers Hornsby -1925
Lou Gehrig- 1934
Jimmie Foxx - 1938
Ted Williams - 1941
Ted Williams - 1942
Stan Musial - 1943
Ted Williams - 1957
George Brett - 1980
Larry Walker - 1999
Barry Bonds - 2002

Albert Pujols - 2008 ?

So thats 12 guys doing it 16 times. Pretty much the usual suspects, but no Ruth (got out-averaged by Hornsby during his one league TC) and no Mantle (Williams).

3 for Cobb and Williams.

If you consider other factors (not saying you should, necessarily): Bonds and steroids, Walker and Coors, Brett and low PA count, Williams and Musial in a weekend WW2 league, fewer guys to compete with prior to expansion,etc. and it becomes an even more impressive feat if Pujols can pull it off this year.

[Buzzaldrin]

What about before 1901? It was just as difficult to lead the league in those three categories, regardless of the rule changes or pitching distances. I guess leading the majors before 1882 was a bit easier because there was only the NL, and Ross Barnes and George Gore managed to do it once each, but nobody did it between 1892 and 1900 when there was only one major league again, but for the ten year period 1882-1891 when there were multiple major leagues, the following led all three for a season:

Dan Brouthers- 1883, 1891 (while playing in two different leagues)
Fred Dunlap- 1884
Tip O'Neill- 1887

Dunlap, of course, has to be taken with a major grain of salt.

[Ubiquitous]

NL:


NL
1876 Ross Barnes
1880 George Gore
1882 Dan Brouthers
1883 Dan Brouthers
1904 Honus Wagner
1907 Honus Wagner
1908 Honus Wagner
1909 Honus Wagner
1910 Sherry Magee
1920 Rogers Hornsby
1921 Rogers Hornsby
1922 Rogers Hornsby
1923 Rogers Hornsby
1924 Rogers Hornsby
1925 Rogers Hornsby
1928 Rogers Hornsby
1933 Chuck Klein
1935 Arky Vaughan
1943 Stan Musial
1948 Stan Musial
1999 Larry Walker
2000 Todd Helton
2002 Barry Bonds
2004 Barry Bonds


AL:


1901 Nap Lajoie
1904 Nap Lajoie
1906 George Stone
1909 Ty Cobb
1916 Tris Speaker
1917 Ty Cobb
1924 Babe Ruth
1934 Lou Gehrig
1938 Jimmie Foxx
1941 Ted Williams
1942 Ted Williams
1947 Ted Williams
1948 Ted Williams
1954 Ted Williams
1957 Ted Williams
1966 Frank Robinson
1967 Carl Yastrzemski
1979 Fred Lynn
1980 George Brett

Misc Leagues:


AA
1882 Pete Browning
1887 Tip O'Neill
1891 Dan Brouthers
FL
1915 Benny Kauff
UA
1884 Fred Dunlap

[Ubiquitous]

For the majors 1901 and on:


1901 Nap Lajoie
1908 Honus Wagner
1909 Ty Cobb
1916 Tris Speaker
1917 Ty Cobb
1925 Rogers Hornsby
1934 Lou Gehrig
1938 Jimmie Foxx
1941 Ted Williams
1942 Ted Williams
1943 Stan Musial
1957 Ted Williams
1980 George Brett
1999 Larry Walker
2002 Barry Bonds



Pre1901 Majors


1876 Ross Barnes
1880 George Gore
1883 Dan Brouthers
1884 Fred Dunlap
1887 Tip O'Neill
1891 Dan Brouthers

[STLCards2]

For the majors 1901 and on:


1901 Nap Lajoie
1902 Ed Delahanty
1907 Honus Wagner
1908 Honus Wagner
1909 Ty Cobb
1916 Tris Speaker
1917 Ty Cobb
1918 Ty Cobb
1925 Rogers Hornsby
1934 Lou Gehrig
1938 Jimmie Foxx
1941 Ted Williams
1942 Ted Williams
1943 Stan Musial
1957 Ted Williams
1980 George Brett
1999 Larry Walker
2002 Barry Bonds




Technicaly in 1907, Ty Cobb had a .3504 BA and Wagner had a .3495 BA. That is why I didn't include that season. If it were an official batting race, they would have given it to Cobb too.

The source I looked at (BR) has Lajoie at .378 and Delehanty at .376 in 1902.

[Ubiquitous]

I was using Lee Sinins Sabermetric Encyclopedia and he doesn't use the more precise league qualifying rules like BRef does. Nap just barely meets the requirement to qualify for the title.

Though it should be noted that in 1902 Delahanty was declared the batting champ over Lajoie and when you consider future Ban Johnson rulings and the rule that all past awards will not be retroactively removed I guess one could technically say that Delahanty was the 1902 batting champ.

According to Ban Ed had a .376 average and Nap had a .369 average.

[wrgptfan]

[QUOTE=Ubiquitous;1305899]For the majors 1901 and on:


1901 Nap Lajoie
1908 Honus Wagner
1909 Ty Cobb
1916 Tris Speaker
1917 Ty Cobb
1918 Ty Cobb
1925 Rogers Hornsby
1934 Lou Gehrig
1938 Jimmie Foxx
1941 Ted Williams
1942 Ted Williams
1943 Stan Musial
1957 Ted Williams
1980 George Brett
1999 Larry Walker
2002 Barry Bonds



Babe Ruth actually led the majors in 1918 with a .555 Slg. He played in 95 games - at that time to qualify for a rate stat, you had to play in 60% of your team's games.