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BlueBlood
08-30-2008, 07:27 PM
Welcome to the sixth block of twenty names of eligible Cooperstown candidates not in the Hall of Fame.

Here are the top hundred players that this lengthy series of polls and lists has chosen:

This Project's Top 100 Candidates For The Hall Of Fame

1. Ron Santo
2. Bert Blyleven
3. Tim Raines
4. Dick Allen
5. Bill Dahlen
6. Minnie Minoso
7. Alan Trammell
8. Paul Hines
9. Ted Simmons
10. Deacon White
11. Sherry Magee
12. Bobby Grich
13. Mark McGwire
14. Joe Gordon
15. Ross Barnes
16. Joe Torre
17. Dale Murphy
18. Stan Hack
19. Andre Dawson
20. Harry Stovey
21. Lou Whitaker
22. Charlie Bennett
23. Larry Doyle/Wes Ferrell/Carl Mays
26. Bob Caruthers/Darrell Evans
28. Joe Start
29. Bill Freehan
30. Vern Stephens
31. Dave Parker
32. Tony Mullane/George Van Haltren
34. Will Clark
35. Heinie Groh
36. Keith Hernandez
37. Jim Rice
38. Albert Belle
39. Dwight Evans
40. Gil Hodges
41. Ken Boyer
42. George Gore
43. Ezra Sutton
44. Dickey Pearce
45. Jack Glasscock
46. Dan Quisenberry
47. Tommy Leach/Cal McVey
49. Cupid Childs
50. Wilbur Cooper
51. Jimmy Sheckard
52. Charlie Keller
53. Pete Browning/Graig Nettles
55. Gavvy Cravath/Jimmy Ryan
57. Jim Kaat
58. Wally Schang
59. Bobby Bonds
60. Wally Berger
61. Bucky Walters
62. Jim Wynn
63. Herman Long
64. Bob Elliott
65. Tommy Bridges/Bob Johnson
67. Tony Oliva
68. Lee Smith
69. Tommy John/Don Newcombe
71. Luis Tiant/Mickey Vernon
73. Urban Shocker
74. Bobby Veach
75. Reggie Smith
76. George J Burns/Mike Donlin
78. Thurman Munson
79. Frank Howard/Fielder Jones
81. Hardy Richardson
82. Lip Pike
83. Lefty O'Doul
84. Billy Pierce
85. David Cone/Jack Morris
87. Elston Howard
88. Steve Garvey
89. Dave Concepcion/Don Mattingly
91. Bret Saberhagen
92. Al Rosen
93. Lave Cross
94. Dolf Luque
95. Norm Cash/Jack Fournier/Roy Thomas
98. Ted Kluszewski/Buddy Myer/Cy Seymour

Pitcher:

1. Bert Blyleven
2. Wes Ferrell/Carl Mays
4. Bob Caruthers
5. Tony Mullane
6. Dan Quisenberry
7. Wilbur Cooper
8. Jim Kaat
9. Bucky Walters
10. Tommy Bridges
11. Lee Smith
12. Tommy John/Don Newcombe
14. Luis Tiant
15. Urban Shocker
16. Billy Pierce
17. David Cone/Jack Morris
19. Bret Saberhagen
20. Dolf Luque

First Base:

1. Dick Allen
2. Mark McGwire
3. Joe Start
4. Will Clark
5. Keith Hernandez
6. Gil Hodges
7. Cal McVey
8. Mickey Vernon
9. Steve Garvey
10. Don Mattingly
11. Norm Cash/Jack Fournier
13. Ted Kluszewski

Second Base:

1. Bobby Grich
2. Joe Gordon
3. Ross Barnes
4. Lou Whitaker
5. Larry Doyle
6. Cupid Childs
7. Hardy Richardson
8. Buddy Myer

Shortstop:

1. Bill Dahlen
2. Alan Trammell
3. Vern Stephens
4. Dickey Pearce
5. Jack Glasscock
6. Herman Long
7. Dave Concepcion

Third Base:

1. Ron Santo
2. Deacon White (also see Catcher)
3. Stan Hack
4. Darrell Evans
5. Heinie Groh
6. Ken Boyer
7. Ezra Sutton
8. Tommy Leach
9. Graig Nettles
10. Bob Elliott
11. Al Rosen
12. Lave Cross

Catcher:

1. Ted Simmons
2. Deacon White (also see Third Base)
3. Joe Torre
4. Charlie Bennett
5. Bill Freehan
6. Wally Schang
7. Thurman Munson
8. Elston Howard

Left Field:

1. Tim Raines
2. Minnie Minoso
3. Sherry Magee
4. Harry Stovey
5. Jim Rice
6. Albert Belle
7. Jimmy Sheckard
8. Charlie Keller
9. Bob Johnson
10. Bobby Veach
11. George J Burns
12. Frank Howard
13. Lefty O'Doul

Center Field:

1. Paul Hines
2. Dale Murphy
3. George Van Haltren
4. George Gore
5. Pete Browning
6. Jimmy Ryan
7. Wally Berger
8. Jimmy Wynn
9. Mike Donlin
10. Fielder Jones
11. Lip Pike
12. Roy Thomas
13. Cy Seymour

Right Field:

1. Andre Dawson
2. Dave Parker
3. Dwight Evans
4. Gavvy Cravath
5. Bobby Bonds
6. Tony Oliva
7. Reggie Smith

BlueBlood
08-30-2008, 07:33 PM
This Week's Ballot:

Babe Adams
Harold Baines
Sal Bando
Dick Bartell
Harry Davis
Dom DiMaggio
Dummy Hoy
Johnny Kling
Ed Konetchy
Sparky Lyle
Firpo Marberry
Johnny Pesky
Vada Pinson
Jack Quinn
Rusty Staub
Mike Tiernan
Hippo Vaughn
Lon Warneke
Cy Williams
Maury Wills

BlueBlood
08-30-2008, 07:35 PM
Babe Adams - No
Harold Baines - No
Sal Bando - Yes
Dick Bartell - No
Harry Davis - No
Dom DiMaggio - No
Dummy Hoy - No
Johnny Kling - No
Ed Konetchy - No
Sparky Lyle - No
Firpo Marberry - Maybe
Johnny Pesky - Maybe
Vada Pinson - No
Jack Quinn - No
Rusty Staub - Maybe
Mike Tiernan - Maybe
Hippo Vaughn - No
Lon Warneke - No
Cy Williams - No
Maury Wills - Maybe

Paul Wendt
08-30-2008, 07:43 PM
Babe Adams
Harold Baines
Sal Bando
Dick Bartell
Harry Davis
Dom DiMaggio
Dummy Hoy
Johnny Kling - maybe
Ed Konetchy
Sparky Lyle - maybe
Firpo Marberry
Johnny Pesky
Vada Pinson
Jack Quinn -maybe
Rusty Staub - maybe (revised)
Mike Tiernan
Hippo Vaughn
Lon Warneke
Cy Williams
Maury Wills

It's possible i will revise and give a few more quarter-points.
EDIT: Staub, no => maybe

henrich
08-30-2008, 08:48 PM
This Week's Ballot:

Babe Adams
Harold Baines
Sal Bando
Dick Bartell
Harry Davis
Dom DiMaggio
Dummy Hoy
Johnny Kling
Ed Konetchy
Sparky Lyle
Firpo Marberry
Johnny Pesky
Vada Pinson
Jack Quinn
Rusty Staub
Mike Tiernan
Hippo Vaughn
Lon Warneke
Cy Williams
Maury Wills

Babe Adams no
Harold Baines-maybe
Sal bando no
Dick Bartell no
Harry Davis no
Dom DiMaggio no
Dummy Hoy no
Johnny Kling no
Ed Konetchy no
Sparky Lyle-no
Firpo Marberry no
Johnny Pesky-no
Vada Pinson-yes
Jack Quinn no
Rusty Staub maybe
Mike Tiernan-no
Hippo Vaughn no
Lon Warneke no
Cy Williams no
Maury Wills yes

Brad Harris
08-30-2008, 08:59 PM
Yes
Sal Bando
Ed Konetchy

Maybe
Johnny Kling
Sparky Lyle
Vada Pinson
Mike Tiernan
Lon Warneke

No
Babe Adams
Dick Bartell
Harry Davis
Dom DiMaggio
Dummy Hoy
Firpo Marberry
Johnny Pesky
Jack Quinn
Rusty Staub
Hippo Vaughn
Cy Williams

Hell, No!
Harold Baines
Maury Wills

jjpm74
08-30-2008, 10:26 PM
Babe Adams No
Harold Baines No
Sal Bando No Way!
Dick Bartell No
Harry Davis No
Dom DiMaggio No
Dummy Hoy No
Johnny Kling Maybe but a stretch
Ed Konetchy Maybe but a stretch
Sparky Lyle No
Firpo Marberry No
Johnny Pesky Maybe
Vada Pinson No
Jack Quinn No
Rusty Staub Maybe
Mike Tiernan No
Hippo Vaughn Maybe but a stretch
Lon Warneke No
Cy Williams No
Maury Wills No

No yes's for me and the only solid maybe for me is Johnny Pesky and that's only with a generous WWII credit.

leecemark
08-30-2008, 10:40 PM
Babe Adams - no
Harold Baines - no
Sal Bando - maybe
Dick Bartell - no
Harry Davis - no
Dom DiMaggio - no
Dummy Hoy - no
Johnny Kling - no
Ed Konetchy no
Sparky Lyle - no
Firpo Marberry - no
Johnny Pesky - no
Vada Pinson - no
Jack Quinn - no
Rusty Staub - no
Mike Tiernan - no
Hippo Vaughn - no
Lon Warneke - no
Cy Williams - no
Maury Wills - no

jalbright
08-31-2008, 05:17 AM
The only yeses for me are Pesky and Bando (thanks BlueBlood for catching the omission). The rest are no.

Babe Adams
Harold Baines
Sal Bando--Yes
Dick Bartell
Harry Davis
Dom DiMaggio
Dummy Hoy
Johnny Kling
Ed Konetchy
Sparky Lyle
Firpo Marberry
Johnny Pesky--yes
Vada Pinson
Jack Quinn
Rusty Staub
Mike Tiernan
Hippo Vaughn
Lon Warneke
Cy Williams
Maury Wills

BlueBlood
09-07-2008, 07:17 AM
Last push, it's been a week.

Paul Wendt
09-07-2008, 07:44 AM
one revision, Rusty Staub up from No to Maybe;
another quarter-point liberally dispensed

BlueBlood
09-07-2008, 07:14 PM
Baines: M
Bando: YYMY
Kling: MMM
Kontechy: MM
Lyle: MMY
Marberry: MY
Pesky: MMYM
Pinson: YMY
Quinn: M
Staub: MMMM
Tiernan: MMY
Vaughn: MM
Warneke: MM
Williams: Y
Wills: MY

101. Bando: 3.25 (40.6%)

102. Pinson: 2.25 (28.1%)

103. Pesky: 1.75 (21.8%)

104. Lyle/Tiernan: 1.50 (18.8%)

106. Marberry/Wills: 1.25 (15.6%)

108. Williams: 1.00 (12.5%)

109. Staub: 1.00 (12.5%)

110. Kling: .75 (9.4%)

111. Konetchy/Vaughn/Warneke: .50 (6.3%)

114. Baines/Quinn: .25 (3.1%)

116. Adams/Bartell/Davis/DiMaggio/Hoy: 0 (0%)


Ranking Of The Top 120 Candidates Allowing For Upward And Downward Mobility Between Blocs of Candidates:

1. Ron Santo
2. Bert Blyleven
3. Tim Raines
4. Dick Allen
5. Bill Dahlen
6. Minnie Minoso
7. Alan Trammell
8. Paul Hines
9. Ted Simmons
10. Deacon White
11. Sherry Magee
12. Bobby Grich
13. Mark McGwire
14. Joe Gordon
15. Ross Barnes
16. Joe Torre
17. Dale Murphy
18. Stan Hack
19. Andre Dawson
20. Harry Stovey
21. Lou Whitaker
22. Ken Boyer
23. Charlie Bennett
24. Larry Doyle/Carl Mays/Wes Ferrell
27. Bob Caruthers/Darrell Evans
29. Hardy Richardson
30. Joe Start
31. George Gore/Bucky Walters
33. Ezra Sutton
34. Bill Freehan
35. Vern Stephens
36. Lip Pike
37. Dave Parker
38. Dickey Pearce
39. Jack Glasscock
40. Tony Mullane/George Van Haltren
42. Dan Quisenberry
43. Will Clark
44. Tommy Leach/Cal McVey
46. Heinie Groh
47. Cupid Childs
48. Keith Hernandez
49. Sal Bando
50. Jim Rice
51. Albert Belle
52. Wilbur Cooper
53. Dwight Evans
54. Jimmy Sheckard
55. Lefty O'Doul/Jim Wynn
57. Charlie Keller
58. Herman Long
59. Pete Browning/Graig Nettles
61. Billy Pierce/Bob Elliott
63. Vada Pinson
64. David Cone/Jack Morris/Tommy Bridges/Bob Johnson
68. Elston Howard/Gil Hodges/Tony Oliva
71. Gavy Cravath/Jimmy Ryan
73. Steve Garvey/Lee Smith
75. Johnny Pesky
76. Dave Concepcion/Don Mattingly/Tommy John/Don Newcombe
80. Sparky Lyle/Mike Tiernan/Jim Kaat
83. Bret Saberhagen/Luis Tiant/Mickey Vernon
86. Urban Shocker
87. Wally Schang
88. Firpo Marberry/Maury Wills
90. Al Rosen
91. Bobby Veach
92. Cy Williams
93. Reggie Smith
94. Rusty Staub
95. Bobby Bonds
96. George J Burns/Mike Donlin
98. Thurman Munson
99. Johnny Kling
100. Wally Berger
101. Lave Cross
102. Ed Konetchy/Hippo Vaughn/Lon Warneke
105. Dolf Luque
106. Frank Howard/Fielder Jones
108. Harold Baines/Jack Quinn
110. Norm Cash/Jack Fournier/Roy Thomas
113. Babe Adams/Dick Bartell/Harry Davis/Dom DiMaggio/Dummy Hoy/Ted Kluszewski/Buddy Myer/Cy Seymour

dgarza
09-07-2008, 07:23 PM
Babe Adams - NO
Harold Baines - NO
Sal Bando - NO
Dick Bartell - NO
Harry Davis - NO
Dom DiMaggio - NO
Dummy Hoy - NO
Johnny Kling - NO
Ed Konetchy - NO
Sparky Lyle - YES
Firpo Marberry - YES
Johnny Pesky - MAYBE
Vada Pinson - YES
Jack Quinn - NO
Rusty Staub - NO
Mike Tiernan - YES
Hippo Vaughn - MAYBE
Lon Warneke - MAYBE
Cy Williams - YES
Maury Wills - NO

BlueBlood
09-07-2008, 07:41 PM
Thanks for the ballot. I'll incorporate your votes.