Travis Jackson's most similar: Who deserves induction?

[Cowtipper]

A lot of people call Travis Jackson one of the worst Hall of Fame choices of all time, and yet surprisingly he has two Hall of Famers that are statistically similar to him: Frank Baker and Lou Boudreau. This thread obviously doesn't really concern them, as it concerns the players not in the Hall of Fame that are similar to Jackson. Those eight players are:

Carlos Baerga
Tony Cuccinello
Pinky Whitney
Marty McManus
Edgardo Alfonzo
Jim Fregosi
Shawon Dunston
Alvin Dark

Which, if any, do you believe should be in, or get into when they become eligible, the Hall of Fame?

Here are some notable achievements for each, black and grey ink, and similar Hall of Famers.

Baerga:

3-time AL All-Star (1992, 1993 & 1995)
2-time AL Silver Slugger Award Winner (1993 & 1994)
AL Singles Leader (1992)
20-Home Run Seasons: 2 (1992 & 1993)
100 RBI Seasons: 2 (1992 & 1993)
100 Runs Scored Seasons: 1 (1993)
200 Hits Seasons: 2 (1992 & 1993)
Grey ink: 44
Similar Hall of Famers: Travis Jackson

Cuccinello:

3-time All-Star (1933, 1938 & 1945)
Black ink: 1
Grey ink: 33
Similar Hall of Famers: Lou Boudreau, Travis Jackson, Rick Ferrell

Whitney:

NL All-Star (1936)
100 RBI Seasons: 4 (1928-1930 & 1932)
200 Hits Seasons: 2 (1929 & 1930)
Black ink: 1
Grey ink: 42
Similar Hall of Famers: Frank Baker, Travis Jackson

McManus:

100 RBI Seasons: 1 (1922)
100 Runs Scored Seasons: 2 (1925 & 1926)
AL Doubles Leader (1925)
Black ink: 4
Grey ink: 60
Similar Hall of Famers: Travis Jackson, Jimmy Collins

Alfonzo:

NL All-Star (2000)
NL Silver Slugger Award Winner (1999/2B)
20-Home Run Seasons: 2 (1999 & 2000)
100 RBI Seasons: 1 (1999)
100 Runs Scored Seasons: 2 (1999 & 2000)
Grey ink: 21

Fregosi:

6-time AL All-Star (1964 & 1966-1970)
AL Gold Glove Winner (1967)
AL Triples Leader (1968)
20-Home Run Seasons: 1 (1970)
Division titles: 2 (1979 & 1993)
NL Pennants: 1 (1993)
Black ink: 1
Grey ink: 51

Dunston:

2-time NL All-Star (1988 & 1990)
Grey ink: 6

Dark:

1948 ML Rookie of the Year Award
3-time NL All-Star (1951, 1952 & 1954)
2-time NL At Bats Leader (1953 & 1954)
NL Doubles Leader (1951)
20-Home Run Seasons: 2 (1953 & 1954)
100 Runs Scored Seasons: 2 (1951 & 1953)
Won a World Series with the New York Giants in 1954
Division Titles: 2 (1974 & 1975)
NL Pennants: 1 (1962)
AL Pennants: 1 (1974)
Managed one World Series Champion with the Oakland Athletics in 1974
100 Wins Seasons as a Manager: 1 (1962)
Black ink: 5
Grey ink: 71
Similar Hall of Famers: Travis Jackson

[Cowtipper]

...and I forgot to make it so you could make multiple choices. Oh well.

[jalbright]

If you want to do the thread over as another thread with a poll with the appropriate options, I can close this one out. That's unfortunately all I can offer.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Fregosi and Dark have cases; they are both borderline.

Of course, I wouldn't put either of them in before Alan Trammell.

[STLCards2]

A lot of people call Travis Jackson one of the worst Hall of Fame choices of all time, and yet surprisingly he has two Hall of Famers that are statistically similar to him: Frank Baker and Lou Boudreau. This thread obviously doesn't really concern them, as it concerns the players not in the Hall of Fame that are similar to Jackson. Those eight players are:



What statistic are you using to say they are similar?

The four time homerun champ Baker had a career 135 OPS+ with six top-10 finishes.

Jackson has a career 102 OPS+ with a #10 finish.

Yes, they had similar HR and RBI numbers, but even though their career overlaped (or almost did, I don't remember) their era's couldn't be more different: dead ball vs. live ball.

Baker and Jackson are as far apart in abilty and production as Chipper Jones and Garry Gaetti.

[henrich]

What statistic are you using to say they are similar?

The four time homerun champ Baker had a career 135 OPS+ with six top-10 finishes.

Jackson has a career 102 OPS+ with a #10 finish.

Yes, they had similar HR and RBI numbers, but even though their career overlaped (or almost did, I don't remember) their era's couldn't be more different: dead ball vs. live ball.

Baker and Jackson are as far apart in abilty and production as Chipper Jones and Garry Gaetti.


Excellent comparison from my point of view. I have them each separated by about 2000 in H-Factor

[Cowtipper]

What statistic are you using to say they are similar?
The four time homerun champ Baker had a career 135 OPS+ with six top-10 finishes.

Jackson has a career 102 OPS+ with a #10 finish.

Yes, they had similar HR and RBI numbers, but even though their career overlaped (or almost did, I don't remember) their era's couldn't be more different: dead ball vs. live ball.

Baker and Jackson are as far apart in abilty and production as Chipper Jones and Garry Gaetti.

I use the player similarity scores at Baseball-Reference.com.

If you want to do the thread over as another thread with a poll with the appropriate options, I can close this one out. That's unfortunately all I can offer.
Thanks, but I'll just leave this the way it is.