BBF HOF voting thread, 8/9 -8/29/08

[jalbright]

Let the voting begin! For anyone who has not participated before, please read the rules posted here

The Rules (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1014933&postcount=2)

Those players receiving only one ballot in an election may go on to a list from which voters may only vote for a limited number of such candidates. For more details on this rule, please follow the above link to the Rules. For this election, you may not select more than three (3) from this list:


Bottomley, Jim**
Burns, George*……..
Elliott, Bob**
Franco, John**
Jones, Fielder
Lazzeri, Tony**
O'Neill, Tip**
Pinson, Vada**
Singleton, Ken*
Staub, Rusty*
Tiernan, Mike**
Veach, Bobby**
White, Sol


The voting for this election will end at 11:59:59 PM EDT August 29, 2008.

For more details on this rule, please consult the link to the Rules above, and to this post: Limited Selection List (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1015092&postcount=7)

Also, please note that now ballots as short as zero (0) names are now permitted. However, if a voter intends to cast a ballot naming no one, this must be clearly communicated or the ballot will not count.

Other information of note is who is in the BBF HOF.

BBF HOF membership by category (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1014935&postcount=3)

BBF HOF membership listed alphabetically (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1014936&postcount=4)

Last month's results are posted. You are requested to pay particular attention to those individuals receiving 50% or more of the vote last election, as they are the most likely candidates to be elected this month. In fact, I have specific posts on players receiving 50% or more of last month's vote:

Results of last election (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1015079&postcount=5)

Those with 50% or more last election (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1015103&postcount=9)

I have also posted this with respect to the status of the project:

Project Status (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1015091&postcount=6)

I have posted all the players who have exceeded 50% of the vote at least once without yet being elected

50%+ voting history (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1015105&postcount=10)

Also, please note that you can access the last voting thread (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=79464) here.

[jalbright]

My 8/9- 8/29/08 ballot

key:
red=Japanese League
blue=Negro Leagues
green=19th century
magenta=Castro-era Cuban

We elected Ezra Sutton and Vic Willis, further shrinking my ballot. I've also decided to remove Sam Rice. I currently have some open spots, and some candidates I might/probably will support yet. Of course, it's possible someone will convince me to support someone not currently in my queue or list of possibles. There's also some candidates I won't block, which means I might add them at the last minute if it seems doing so will get them elected.

Players

1. Sal Bando, 3b
2. Bus Clarkson, ss
3 Leon Day, p
4. Yutaka Enatsu, p
5. Darrell Evans, 3b
6. Charlie Keller, of
7. Masaaki Koyama, p (Japan)
8. Tommy Leach, 3b/cf
9. Omar Linares, 3b
10. Herman Long, ss
11. Dick Lundy, ss
12. Hiromitsu Ochiai 1B/3B (Japan)
13. Phil Rizzuto, ss
14. Vern Stephens, ss
15. Quincy Trouppe, c
16. Bucky Walters, p

Anyone who wants more information on these or other players, please see my latest player voting guide (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=68335)

[jjpm74]

1. Jake Beckley
2. Keith Hernandez
3. Omar Linares
4. Don Newcombe
5. Dickey Pearce
6. Lip Pike
7. Sam Rice
8. Vern Stephens

[Captain Cold Nose]

Jake Beckley
Pete Browning
Kiki Cuyler
Leon Day
Darrell Evans
Lefty Gomez
Keith Hernandez
Bob Johnson
Addie Joss
Chuck Klein
Ernie Lombardi
Heinie Manush
Edgar Martinez
Hiromitsu Ochiai
Rafael Palmeiro
Lip Pike
Spot Poles
Jim Rice
Sam Rice
Jimmy Ryan
Jimmy Sheckard
Lee Smith
Quincy Trouppe
Larry Walker
Mickey Welch

[Cowtipper]

Jake Beckley
Chief Bender
Bobby Bonds
Pete Browning
Kiki Cuyler
Dwight Evans
Lefty Gomez
Keith Hernandez
Charley Jones
Addie Joss
Chuck Klein
Masaaki Koyama
Ernie Lombardi
Heinie Manush
Hiromitsu Ochiai
Al Oliver
Billy Pierce
Jim Rice
Sam Rice
Jimmy Ryan
Lee Smith
Vern Stephens
Larry Walker
Bucky Walters
Mickey Welch

Vic Willis and Ezra Sutton are replaced by Charley Jones and Masaaki Koyama.

[BlueBlood]

1. Sal Bando, 2B
2. Jake Beckley, 1B
3. Chief Bender, P
4. Jim Bottomley, 1B
5. Pete Browning, OF
6. Leon Day, p
7. Darrell Evans, 3B
8. Lefty Gomez, P
9. Addie Joss, P
10. Chuck Klein, OF
11. Jim McCormick, p
12. Sam Rice, OF
13. Vern Stephens, SS
14. Bucky Walters, P

- Ballot ties a previous record low for me of 13 names now that Sutton & Willis have finally been inducted.

- Edit #1: Been floating around on Leon Day for some time now. I'm willing to jump that hurdle. Ballot increases by one to fourteen names.

[dgarza]

Jake Beckley
Tommy Bond
Pete Browning
Kiki Cuyler
Lefty Gomez
Bob Johnson
Chuck Klein
Tony Lazzeri
Ernie Lombardi
Heinie Manush
Edgar Martinez
Bobby Mathews
Jim McCormick
Tony Oliva
Al Oliver
Tip O'Neill
Rafael Palmeiro
Jim Rice
Sam Rice
Al Rosen
Lee Smith
Vern Stephens
Bobby Veach
Larry Walker
Mickey Welch

[leecemark]

Berger, W.
Bridges, T.
Hernandez, K.
Howard, E.
Keller, C.
Leach, T.
Lombardi, E.
Morris, J.
Munson. T.
Nettles, G
Pearce, Dickey
Rice, J.
Sheckard, J.
Wynn, J

[cooldrive]

I'd love to vote. Where's the ballot?

[jalbright]

I'd love to vote. Where's the ballot?

Read the rules at the start of this thread. If you still have questions, you may PM me.

[bambambaseball]

Sal Bando
Jake Beckley
Wally Berger
Bobby Bonds
Pete Browning
Kiki Cuyler
Leon Day
Yutaka Enatsu
Darrel Evans
Keith Hernandez
Chuck Klein
Tommy Leach
Dick Lundy
Edgar Martinez
Graig Nettles
Don Newcombe
Hiromitsu Ochiai
Rafael Palmiero
Dickey Pearce
Lip Pike
Spottswood Poles
Sam Rice
Phil Rizzuto
Jimmy Sheckard
Vern Stephens

[cooldrive]

Pete Browning

[jjpm74]

Pete Browning

You're casting a ballot with 1 player on it; and a questionable one at that :confused:

Did you read through the rules? Did you look at the frontrunners? Are you aware that routinely casting a vote like this will end the project before we get to the annual elections?

[jalbright]

The biggest single problem with a ballot like this is that it's a vote against everybody but Pete Browning--and it takes three positive votes to bring a guy back to electable levels for each vote against. If this vote isn't altered, we went from having a decent chance at electing one to three candidates (from Darrell Evans, Keith Hernandez, and Jake Beckley) to basically having little shot at electing anyone this election.

[J W]

Allright then; cross another one off the list! Down to 13 now:

Jake Beckley
Wally Berger
Bobby Bonds
Lefty Gomez
Addie Joss
Tommy Leach
Edgar Martinez
Tony Oliva
Jimmy Ryan
Larry Walker
Mickey Welch
Bernie Williams
Jimmy Wynn
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[Freakshow]

Election #67. Sutton and Willis are replaced by Jim Rice and Rusty Staub. Average number of elections on my ballot is 14.6, an all-time high.

25 Beckley-1B
5 Bonds-RF*
12 Browning P-OF*
6 Cravath-RF*
41 Evans Da-3B*
29 Evans Dw-RF*
29 Hernandez-1B*
6 Jones Ch-LF*
12 Keller-LF*
13 Klein-RF
10 Leach T-3B*
16 Martinez E-DH*
13 Nettles-3B*
30 Palmeiro-1B*
18 Pearce D-SS*
4 Pierce-P*
10 Pike-CF*
1 Rice J-LF*
16 Ryan J-CF*
15 Sheckard-LF*
1 Staub-RF*
7 Trouppe-C*
4 Walker L-RF*
7 Welch M-P
34 Wynn J-CF*

* = not in HOF
bold = member of the Hall of Merit

[bambambaseball]

Any of you not looking at Keith Hernandez will hopefully look at him. He's the best person out there!

[Brad Harris]

Sal Bando
Bobby Bonds
Pete Browning
Leon Day
Darrell Evans
Dwight Evans
Lefty Gomez
Keith Hernandez
Charlie Keller
Masaaki Koyama
Charley Jones
Tommy Leach
Omar Linares
Edgar Martinez
Graig Nettles
Hiromitsu Ochiai
Dickey Pearce
Lip Pike
Sam Rice
Jimmy Sheckard
Vern Stephens
Quincy Trouppe
Larry Walker
Bucky Walters
Jimmy Wynn

[Dogdaze]

Jake Beckley
Chief Bender
Pete Browning
Kiki Cuyler
Leon Day
Yutaka Enatsu
Darrell Evans
Lefty Gomez
Addie Joss
Chuck Klein
Omar Linares
Ernie Lombardi
Herman Long
Dick Lundy
Heinie Manush
Thurman Munson
Hiromitsu Ochiai
Al Oliver
Spotswood Poles
Jim Rice
Sam Rice
Al Rosen
Lee Smith
Bucky Walters
Mickey Welch

[TheSlaff]

Sal Bando
Jake Beckley
Bobby Bonds
Pete Browning
Kiki Cuyler
Bob Elliott
Darrell Evans
Dwight Evans
Lefty Gomez
Keith Hernandez
Addie Joss
Chuck Klein
Edgar Martinez
Don Newcombe
Rafael Palmeiro
Dickey Pearce
Billy Pierce
Lip Pike
Jim Rice
Sam Rice
Jimmy Sheckard
Vern Stephens
Larry Walker
Bucky Walters
Mickey Welch

[henrich]

my 25 votes

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1. Jake Beckley
2. Davey Concepcion
3. Darrell Evans
4. Lefty Gomez
5. Keith Hernandez
6. Elston Howard
7. Chuck Klein
8. Tony Lazzeri
9. Jim McCormick
10. Jack Morris
11. Graig Nettles
12. Al Oliver
13. Rafael Palmeiro
14. Vada Pinson
15. Jim Rice
16. Sam Rice
17. Phil Rizzuto
18. Jimmy Ryan
19. Lee Smith
20. Vern Stephens
21. Larry Walker
22. Bucky Walters
23. Mickey Welch
24. Bernie Williams
25. Vic Willis

[Erik Bedard]

Jake Beckley
Gavy Cravath
Darrell Evans
Dwight Evans
Lefty Gomez
Addie Joss
Chuck Klein
Edgar Martinez
Hiromitsu Ochiai
Tony Oliva
Dickey Pearce
Lip Pike
Sam Rice
Jimmy Ryan
Jimmy Sheckard
Reggie Smith
Jimmy Wynn

[STLCards2]

Jake Beckley
Pete Browning
Darrell Evans
Addie Joss
Edgar Martinez
Billy Pierce
Larry Walker

[AG2004]

My August 29, 2008 ballot

PLAYERS
Sal Bando
Wally Berger
Bobby Bonds
George J. Burns
Yutaka Enatsu
Darrell Evans
Dwight Evans
Keith Hernandez
Charlie Keller
Masaaki Koyama
Tommy Leach
Omar Linares
Herman Long
Graig Nettles
Don Newcombe
Hiromitsu Ochiai
Dickey Pearce
Spotswood Poles
Phil Rizzuto
Jimmy Sheckard
Ken Singleton
Rusty Staub
Quincy Trouppe
Bucky Walters
Jimmy Wynn

[Paul Wendt]

Roy Thomas takes the place of Ezra Sutton. Comments to follow tomorrow, I hope.

Dave Bancroft
Wally Berger
Bobby Bonds
Dave Concepcion
Gavy Cravath
Darrell Evans
Dwight Evans
Keith Hernandez
Charley Jones
Fielder Jones
Charlie Keller
Tommy Leach
Herman Long
Edgar Martinez
Graig Nettles
Don Newcombe
Rafael Palmeiro
Dickey Pearce
Lip Pike
Jimmy Sheckard
Roy Thomas
Quincy Trouppe
Sol White
Bernie Williams
Jimmy Wynn

[jalbright]

We had 18 ballots and elected no one. Here's the results:


Beckley, Jake…….. 13 72.2 Bancroft, Dave 1 5.6
Evans, Darrell……. 13 72.2 Bando, Sal……….. 6 33.3
Hernandez, Keith… 11 61.1 Beckley, Jake…….. 13 72.2
Rice, Sam………….. 11 61.1 Bender, Chief…….. 3 16.7
Browning, Pete…… 10 55.6 Berger, Wally…….. 5 27.8
Gomez, Lefty…….. 10 55.6 Bond, Tommy…….. 1 5.6
Klein, Chuck………. 10 55.6 Bonds, Bobby……. 8 44.4
Martinez, Edgar…… 10 55.6 Bottomley, Jim……. 1 5.6
Pearce, Dickey……. 10 55.6 Bridges, Tommy….. 1 5.6
Sheckard, Jimmy…. 9 50.0 Browning, Pete…… 10 55.6
Stephens, Vern….. 9 50.0 Burns, George……. 1 5.6
Walker, Larry…….. 9 50.0 Clarkson, Bus……. 1 5.6
Bonds, Bobby……. 8 44.4 Concepcion, Dave 2 11.1
Joss, Addie……… 8 44.4 Cravath, Gavvy…… 3 16.7
Leach, Tommy…… 8 44.4 Cuyler, Kiki………… 6 33.3
Ochiai, Hiromitsu….. 8 44.4 Day, Leon…………. 6 33.3
Pike, Lip………….. 8 44.4 Elliott, Bob…………. 1 5.6
Rice, Jim………….. 8 44.4 Enatsu, Yutaka….. 4 22.2
Walters, Bucky…… 8 44.4 Evans, Darrell……. 13 72.2
Welch, Mickey……. 8 44.4 Evans, Dwight……. 7 38.9
Evans, Dwight……. 7 38.9 Gomez, Lefty…….. 10 55.6
Nettles, Graig…….. 7 38.9 Hernandez, Keith… 11 61.1
Palmeiro, Rafael….. 7 38.9 Howard, Elston 2 11.1
Wynn, Jimmy……… 7 38.9 Johnson, Bob…….. 2 11.1
Bando, Sal……….. 6 33.3 Jones, Charley…… 4 22.2
Cuyler, Kiki………… 6 33.3 Jones, Fielder 1 5.6
Day, Leon…………. 6 33.3 Joss, Addie……… 8 44.4
Keller, Charlie…….. 6 33.3 Keller, Charlie…….. 6 33.3
Ryan, Jimmy………. 6 33.3 Klein, Chuck………. 10 55.6
Trouppe, Quincy…. 6 33.3 Koyama, Masaaki 4 22.2
Berger, Wally…….. 5 27.8 Lazzeri, Tony…….. 2 11.1
Linares, Omar 5 27.8 Leach, Tommy…… 8 44.4
Lombardi, Ernie…… 5 27.8 Linares, Omar 5 27.8
Newcombe, Don…. 5 27.8 Lombardi, Ernie…… 5 27.8
Smith, Lee………… 5 27.8 Long, Herman…….. 4 22.2
Enatsu, Yutaka….. 4 22.2 Lundy, Dick……….. 3 16.7
Jones, Charley…… 4 22.2 Manush, Heinie…… 4 22.2
Koyama, Masaaki 4 22.2 Martinez, Edgar…… 10 55.6
Long, Herman…….. 4 22.2 Mathews, Bobby… 1 5.6
Manush, Heinie…… 4 22.2 McCormick, Jim…… 3 16.7
Oliver, Al………….. 4 22.2 Morris, Jack……… 2 11.1
Poles, Spotswood… 4 22.2 Munson, Thurman.. 2 11.1
Rizzuto, Phil……… 4 22.2 Nettles, Graig…….. 7 38.9
Bender, Chief…….. 3 16.7 Newcombe, Don…. 5 27.8
Cravath, Gavvy…… 3 16.7 Ochiai, Hiromitsu….. 8 44.4
Lundy, Dick……….. 3 16.7 Oliva, Tony……….. 3 16.7
McCormick, Jim…… 3 16.7 Oliver, Al………….. 4 22.2
Oliva, Tony……….. 3 16.7 O'Neill, Tip………… 1 5.6
Pierce, Billy 3 16.7 Palmeiro, Rafael….. 7 38.9
Williams, Bernie…… 3 16.7 Pearce, Dickey……. 10 55.6
Concepcion, Dave 2 11.1 Pierce, Billy 3 16.7
Howard, Elston 2 11.1 Pike, Lip………….. 8 44.4
Johnson, Bob…….. 2 11.1 Pinson, Vada……… 1 5.6
Lazzeri, Tony…….. 2 11.1 Poles, Spotswood… 4 22.2
Morris, Jack……… 2 11.1 Rice, Jim………….. 8 44.4
Munson, Thurman.. 2 11.1 Rice, Sam………….. 11 61.1
Rosen, Al…………. 2 11.1 Rizzuto, Phil……… 4 22.2
Staub, Rusty……… 2 11.1 Rosen, Al…………. 2 11.1
Bancroft, Dave 1 5.6 Ryan, Jimmy………. 6 33.3
Bond, Tommy…….. 1 5.6 Sheckard, Jimmy…. 9 50.0
Bottomley, Jim……. 1 5.6 Singleton, Ken…….. 1 5.6
Bridges, Tommy….. 1 5.6 Smith, Lee………… 5 27.8
Burns, George……. 1 5.6 Smith, Reggie…….. 1 5.6
Clarkson, Bus……. 1 5.6 Staub, Rusty……… 2 11.1
Elliott, Bob…………. 1 5.6 Stephens, Vern….. 9 50.0
Jones, Fielder 1 5.6 Thomas, Roy 1 5.6
Mathews, Bobby… 1 5.6 Trouppe, Quincy…. 6 33.3
O'Neill, Tip………… 1 5.6 Veach, Bobby……. 1 5.6
Pinson, Vada……… 1 5.6 Walker, Larry…….. 9 50.0
Singleton, Ken…….. 1 5.6 Walters, Bucky…… 8 44.4
Smith, Reggie…….. 1 5.6 Welch, Mickey……. 8 44.4
Thomas, Roy 1 5.6 White, Sol 1 5.6
Veach, Bobby……. 1 5.6 Williams, Bernie…… 3 16.7
White, Sol 1 5.6 Wynn, Jimmy……… 7 38.9