Pudge Rodriguez for Kyle Farnsworth....

[tigers527]

That's what they reported on the sports station I listen to at work.....I don't like that move. At least get a PTBNL thrown on for Pudge, JEEEZE :confused:

[sturg1dj]

I know the Tigers needed more relief and I know that the Yankees needed a catcher....but what the hell?

1 for 1 in this case blows my mind. the Tigers got hosed. Even the elderly diminishing skilled Pudge is still better than Farnsworth.

[sturg1dj]

you beat my post by 1 minute...haha...what the hell is this?


I understand Inge can play...but Sardina can't. And Farnsworth? We went there once. Besides the fact that he screwed the team once by not resigning, he has also underachieved as a Yankee. At least throw in a minor leaguer or two just to make it seem like you think Pudge isn't worthless.

[TheMadDog31]

I know the Tigers needed more relief and I know that the Yankees needed a catcher....but what the hell?

I think that this was more or less desperation for both teams. The Yankees need a catcher, and Pudge is quite possibly one of the greatest of all-time. I apologize because I don't follow the Tigers but, are they really that in need of relief pitching? I mean, Farnsworth of all players.

1 for 1 in this case blows my mind. the Tigers got hosed. Even the elderly diminishing skilled Pudge is still better than Farnsworth.

I completely agree. First off, it's a straight up trade which that in itself suprises the hell out of me. Secondly, they got a guy whose only really good season came in Detroit (and Atlanta) but has been a chronic pain in Joe Torre and Joe Girardi's sides because of his inconsistent and rather lackluster play. In two and a half seasons with the Yankees, Farnsworth posted a 6-9 record and a 4.34 ERA. Not to mention that he has blown a lot of games and always seems to be unhappy about something (last year it was Roger Clemens getting "special treatment".

Like I said, this puzzles me and I think it's an absolute steal for the Yankees (which they have been doing lately) and I think this is a very bad decision on Dave Dombrowski's part, but I guess we'll see how this plays out. It could be the exact opposite of what you and I think will happen.

[Inge15]

I don't think Farnsworth will do bad, I just wish we could have gotten more.

[Mild Sauce]

Farnsworth is solid and everything, but what the hell were the Tigers thinking?

[Lafferty Daniel]

So who will share duties with Inge now that Pudge is gone?

[Lafferty Daniel]

Farnsworth is solid and everything, but what the hell were the Tigers thinking?

He's been somewhat "solid" this year, mainly because he's averaging a strikeout an inning unlike last season. Still, you'd think they'd get a little more for Pudge considering he still hits for average, can play good D, and can steal more bases compared to your average catcher.

[sturg1dj]

I think that this was more or less desperation for both teams. The Yankees need a catcher, and Pudge is quite possibly one of the greatest of all-time. I apologize because I don't follow the Tigers but, are they really that in need of relief pitching? I mean, Farnsworth of all players.


what is funny is that they need more consistent relief. Right now they have a bullpen full of Farnsworths....talented but inconsistent. So they added another. Now if I were Rodney or Zumaya I would be pissed if they made Farnsworth the closer. Sure Rodney hasn't done that great...but both Rodney and Zumaya have earned it more than farnsworth.


What I get from Farnsworth is that he is good when the games don't matter. His better stretch was the half-season with the Tigers and they were not good at all.

[Mattingly]

I know the Tigers needed more relief and I know that the Yankees needed a catcher....but what the hell?

1 for 1 in this case blows my mind. the Tigers got hosed. Even the elderly diminishing skilled Pudge is still better than Farnsworth.
I would not in my wildest dream think we could pull off this trade with Farns being the centerpiece of his trade, much less straight up. He's good, but since we still have Veras, Ramirez and Robertson in our pen, I have to think that Cashman is finally making good decisions. Even if Pudge isn't at the top of his game as he was, he's still hitting around .290.

I still have no idea why this came about, since the Yanks could've been easily outbid had Detroit floated the deal last week.

[Mattingly]

I don't think Farnsworth will do bad, I just wish we could have gotten more.
Had Dombrowski asked for Ian Kennedy and Chad Moeller, I wouldn't have complained too much. At least Moeller worked pretty well with Rasner.

There wasn't anything wrong physically with Pudge, is there? It's like I'm looking the gift horse in the mouth.

[Twenty Seven]

Wow! The Yankees keep ending up on the better side of these trades. Now they need another starter.

[Afterglow]

Wow! The Yankees keep ending up on the better side of these trades. Now they need another starter.

I do agree. They sure got the better side of one today.

And yea, they need another starter.

I got a deal.

How about A.J Burnett for a bag of cheetos and a beanbag chair?

Reasonable?

[Los Bravos]

Secondly, they got a guy whose only really good season came in Detroit (and Atlanta) but has been a chronic pain in Joe Torre and Joe Girardi's sides because of his inconsistent and rather lackluster play.A season he ended by choking in truly spectacular fashion in Houston.

The Tigers just traded a lock HOFer, a guy who is a proven winner, for a guy who Mike Wilbon accurately referred to a little while ago as "a dope". If someone hadn't gotten the phone out of Dombrowski's hand, he might have thrown in Verlander for Carl Pavano.

[StanTheMan]

So who will share duties with Inge now that Pudge is gone?


Inge will share the duties with Inge.

[Zito75]

Wow! The Yankees keep ending up on the better side of these trades. Now they need another starter.

Better? I dunno man, a 50 year old catcher that barely hits his weight isn't a good thing. This trade would have been relevant say 5 years ago...

[monkey333]

Better? I dunno man, a 50 year old catcher that barely hits his weight isn't a good thing. This trade would have been relevant say 5 years ago...
He only said he thinks the Yankees got the better side of the deal, they did didn't they? I didn't see anyone claiming this is the steal of the century... BTW, Pudge has also been a decent hitter so far this season(101OPS+).

[Mild Sauce]

Just in, the Blue Jays have traded Holliday to the Yankees for some of Babe Ruth's old toenail clippings.

[Avg_Hr_Rbi]

say what you would like about Cashman but boy he gets some good players for nothing imho, this deal and the deal last week for Marte and Nady as well imho...the Yankees are improving imho

[brewers96]

:eek::hp:noidea:yawn::rant::grouchy:debate::shrug: :crazy:radio

[tommybaseball]

So who will share duties with Inge now that Pudge is gone?

John Wockenfuss? Pudge is a shadow of his HOF persona but Posada is done (will get the surgery) for the year and maybe for good. A 37 year old catcher going under the knife?. Pudge's "winning attitude" is the great addition. The best part of the deal was getting rid of Farnsworth. He fared better under Girardi but just can't handle the ridiculous pressure of the New York spotlight. Very few can. His best chance as a winner will come if he can do to the Yanks what disgruntled lefty Kenny Rogers did. Rogers was the type of player who would never, ever, ever do it in New York. I think the same goes for Farnsworth. Girardi was too much of a friend, Torre had no faith in him. I think that Leyland will get the most out of his talent.

[zengator]

:eek::hp:noidea:yawn::rant::grouchy:shrug::crazy:r adio

I agree! :hp

[Zito75]

He only said he thinks the Yankees got the better side of the deal, they did didn't they? I didn't see anyone claiming this is the steal of the century... BTW, Pudge has also been a decent hitter so far this season(101OPS+).

He's pacing to get a whopping 32 walks this year... I'm not impressed. I guess we'll see what happens. The Yanks certainly like to collect fossils.

[NYMets523]

I don't think is is a great trade for either team to be honest. I think both teams overvalued what they got and undervalued what they gave up.

[DownUnderDodger]

According to Baseball Tonight (I think it was Steve Phillips) Pudge was not happy at Detroit anyway :noidea So I guess the Yankees needed someone quickly to fill in for Posada, at least for the rest of this season. Presumably Pudge was the only one available outside young prospects from somewhere?

[Avg_Hr_Rbi]

I don't think is is a great trade for either team to be honest. I think both teams overvalued what they got and undervalued what they gave up.

your probably correct, but with the deal last week getting Marte, Farnsworth was expandable and thus getting Pudge straight up for Kyle (and seeing Pudge is a huge upgrade, both offensively and defensively over Molina) I'd have to say it was a win for the Yankees and Cashman

[Mattingly]

According to the very reputable NY Daily News columnist, Pudge approached Dombrowski and asked to be traded.

Ivan Rodriguez asked Tigers to be traded to Yankees (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/07/30/2008-07-30_ivan_rodriguez_asked_tigers_to_be_traded.html)
When Brian Cashman arrived at Yankee Stadium Wednesday in a not-so-good mood over the way the last-place Baltimore Orioles had cuffed around his Yankee team the previous two nights, he did not envision in his wildest imagination bagging a potential Hall-of-Fame catcher before the seventh-inning stretch.

But then, how could he know what Pudge Rodriguez was up to in Cleveland? How could he know the Detroit Tigers' perennial All-Star and Gold Glove catcher had become disconcerted over the decision of his manager, Jim Leyland, to give an increased percentage of the catching role to Brandon Inge? It seems nobody had an inkling of this until Rodriguez, who is a free agent after the season, asked for a meeting with Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski at the team hotel in Cleveland, at which he was the one who suggested a trade to the Yankees.

"They need a catcher and I want to catch every day," Rodriguez reportedly told Dombrowski. "Why don't you see if you can work something out?"

It turns out that the Tigers' most pressing need as they make a belated postseason run in the AL Central has been another power arm in the bullpen - a commodity of which the Yankees had surplus. As soon as his conversation with Rodriguez concluded, Dombrowski phoned Cashman and asked if he would be willing to trade Kyle Farnsworth, who's also a free agent after the season, for his 36-year-old catcher. It was essentially a deal of mutual "rentals" to hopefully help get both teams "to the finish line," as Cashman put it. Before he agreed to it, however, he wanted to check with his manager, Joe Girardi, himself an old catcher.

"He's the complete package," Girardi said of Rodriguez, who is hitting .295 and still maintains one of the stronger throwing arms in the game.

[slugger33]

Will Farnsworth be ready for the Tigers' 12:05 start today? Theri bullpen was taxed last night.

[Stray Cat]

So much for team loyalty, my respect for Pudge just went down the drain. :shrug:

[Old Sweater]

Yankees are going to miss Farnsworth in the set up role.

[Granderson4Prez]

He's pacing to get a whopping 32 walks this year... I'm not impressed.


But that's a big improvement on last year's total.

[Imgran]

Yankees are going to miss Farnsworth in the set up role.
:rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[sturg1dj]

But that's a big improvement on last year's total.

yeah, he's already passed last season's total of 9

[sturg1dj]

So much for team loyalty, my respect for Pudge just went down the drain. :shrug:

give me a break

management had already forced him to play every other day and told him that he wasn't coming back next season. Team loyalty?

[Tank]

give me a break

management had already forced him to play every other day and told him that he wasn't coming back next season. Team loyalty?

The more I hear about this trade the more it sounds like the Tigers did everything but kick Pudge out the door.

I've already said in the Tigers forum how I feel about this trade (horrible), but what really irks me now is Farnsworth taking his time joining the team. I'm trying to be as positive as my cynical mind will let me be, but I still have a bad taste in my mouth from Farns and the primma donna act he pulled here in '05. Add to that the clip I heard on local radio of Farns saying "I'll have to make due" about the trade and I'm expecting Jason Grilli Part 2.

:eek:

[Mattingly]

give me a break

management had already forced him to play every other day and told him that he wasn't coming back next season. Team loyalty?
Since Boras had helped Detroit acquire him beginning in 2004 to supposedly put a face on their team, and then Maggs the following year, why were they so interested in getting rid of him?

[sturg1dj]

because he is no longer as good as his salary would indicate.


but still