2008 All-Star Game Thread

[Mattingly]

There will be a large parade up Manhattan's famed 5th Avenue (home to countless other NYC parades) beginning at 1pm ET, just over 3 hours from now. The game itself starts at 8pm ET.

Please discuss anything related to this All-Star game, past games, All-Star trivia or any other kind of fun banter and shared moments that friendly fans often have when meeting new friends.

Anything about the player selections, saying goodbye to Yankee Stadium II or anything related is fine. :)

Once the game begins, please feel free to post meaningful comments (ie, situational pitcher-batter matchups, what you would do instead). Hopefully more substantial than what one could simply get by browsing the online play-by-play listings.

Enjoy the game, folks, let it be a great one! :D

[Mattingly]

Where'd everybody go? I wonder if I should just go looking for all the people lurking out there. Nobody's posting in here? If nobody posts, should I go find a stink bomb to get everyone out of the surrounding bushes and into this thread? Now then, *COME OUT, COME OUT, WHEREVER YOU ARE*! :D :waving: :p :dance:

Oh yeah, the All-Star Parade is over, was up 6th Ave, not 5th Ave, as I'd mistakenly reported earlier. Yogi, Winfield and many others were there.

Now let's get the game on.

[blacksilverfan12]

OK, I ask you Mattingly, who do you think will win? I'm picking the NL, I think their lineup is better

[blacksilverfan12]

Although this doesn't help (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/allstar08/news/story?id=3490866)

[Mattingly]

OK, I ask you Mattingly, who do you think will win? I'm picking the NL, I think their lineup is better
For no reason other than my being an AL homer, I pick them to win. Oh and Rivera throws the final pitch. The NL closer can't close unless they've got thr lead. :p

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Although this doesn't help (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/allstar08/news/story?id=3490866)

It looks like Lincecum will most likely not be pitching tonight. :ughh

[BlueBlood]

If the NL wins, it's a total fluke. The AL would easily win any series (as evidenced by interleague play)....I think the success of the AL in the previous contests and interleague play for many moons is enough for me to believe they'll add another victory to their belt.

[blacksilverfan12]

For no reason other than my being an AL homer, I pick them to win. Oh and Rivera throws the final pitch. The NL closer can't close unless they've got the lead. :p

I'm with you on Rivera. It would be a disgrace for anybody else to close, especially Papelbon

[blacksilverfan12]

The only guy that concerns me for the NL is Fukudome. Shouldn't be an All-Star at all

[Seattle1]

Who here thinks Ichiro will win the All-Star Game MVP again for the second year in a row?

[Mattingly]

I'm with you on Rivera. It would be a disgrace for anybody else to close, especially Papelbon
If Francona is such a homer that he'll have Papelbon close, then that would rank up there, or even higher than Torre having around 10 Yankees around 2002 or 2004 roster. K-Rod may be more qualified amongst the younger guys.

[blacksilverfan12]

My guess is that it's going to be a left-handed hitter, with the short porch and all. That gives Ichiro a chance. My guess would be Utley in the NL, Hamilton in the AL

[Mattingly]

If the NL wins, it's a total fluke. The AL would easily win any series (as evidenced by interleague play)....I think the success of the AL in the previous contests and interleague play for many moons is enough for me to believe they'll add another victory to their belt.
I wouldn't count the Interleague wins, since those are entire teams, and these guys tonight were hand-picked.

The NL winning an ASG in recent years seems rare, so that's a good thing to base it on, I believe.

[blacksilverfan12]

Kind of dissapointing Bob Shepard isn't there

[Mattingly]

Kind of dissapointing Bob Shepard isn't there
I feel the same way. He's been around since 1951, which is incredible.

The list of living legends they've brought in to the House is incredible!

[blacksilverfan12]

I feel the same way. He's been around since 1951, which is incredible.

The list of living legends they've brought in to the House is incredible!

Yeah. I'm a history freak, especially baseball history, so that was awesome. I never saw most of them play (I'm only 18) but I know about their accomplishments

[Mattingly]

My guess is that it's going to be a left-handed hitter, with the short porch and all. That gives Ichiro a chance. My guess would be Utley in the NL, Hamilton in the AL
How many innings did he play the last time?

Nice singing by Sheryl Crow. :p

[Solrac]

George Steinbrenner throws out the first pitch!!
Didn't expect that.

[blacksilverfan12]

How many innings did he play the last time?

Nice singing by Sheryl Crow. :p

She did better than most. I thought it would be funny if they had some 13-14 year old boy who's some music prodigy come out and his voice crack as he was singing. Funny, but embarrassing:p

Who, Utley or Ichiro?

[blacksilverfan12]

Ichiro played 5, Utley played 6

[BaseballRookie]

Such a shame, the boss cannot even walk anymore. Haven't heard an update on him in a long time.

[redlegsfan21]

I really want Edinson Volquez to face Josh Hamilton. One of the best trades in history and both face each other less than a year from the trade and both have less than 2 years MLB experience.

The NL will win tonight since they won the Legends and Celebrity Softball Game.

[Seattle1]

I hope nobody calls me a Grumpy Gus, but that pregame sequence went on too long, imho.

:yawn:

[blacksilverfan12]

I thought it was cool, but a little too long

[OleMissCub]

The HOFers off the top of my head that are still living that I didn't see there (might have missed them):

Musial, Bench, Morgan, Jim Bunning, Catfish Hunter, Duke Snider, Eddie Matthews, Koufax, Red Schoendienst, Yaz?, Nolan Ryan, Fisk, Seaver.

[Mattingly]

Yeah. I'm a history freak, especially baseball history, so that was awesome. I never saw most of them play (I'm only 18) but I know about their accomplishments
Bob is just one of those living legends who connect us all the way back to DiMaggio's final year, which was Mantle's (and Mays') rook year. Bob is our version of Vin Scully.

Which announcers are you faniliar with? I really liked Harry Caray, and Ernie Halwell.

[blacksilverfan12]

Bob is just one of those living legends who connect us all the way back to DiMaggio's final year, which was Mantle's (and Mays') rook year. Bob is our version of Vin Scully.

Which announcers are you faniliar with? I really liked Harry Caray, and Ernie Halwell.

Mostly Vin, being a Dodger fan. I've heard Harry Caray, Harry Kalas. Not too familiar with Harwell. I like the old broadcasters. Nothing annoys me more than hearing young broadcasters scream like they're being mutilated when somebody does something exciting

[Mattingly]

The Bleacher Creatures chant the names of Jeter, A-Rod and the late Bobby Murcer.

[blacksilverfan12]

Kind of surprised there was nothing about Murcer during the pregame stuff

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Why is Jeter batting second? He should be batting 8th or 9th!

[blacksilverfan12]

Cliff Lee retires the side in order in the top of the first

[Seattle1]

Here comes Ichiro...

:)

[parlo]

The HOFers off the top of my head that are still living that I didn't see there (might have missed them):

Musial, Bench, Morgan, Jim Bunning, Catfish Hunter, Duke Snider, Eddie Matthews, Koufax, Red Schoendienst, Yaz?, Nolan Ryan, Fisk, Seaver.
Catfish and Eddie Matthews are no longer alive.

[parlo]

Kind of surprised there was nothing about Murcer during the pregame stuff I think there was a moment of silence for him. Fox chose not to show it. They went to commercial break.

[blacksilverfan12]

Here comes Ichiro...

:)

And he flies out

[Honus Wagner Rules]

The HOFers off the top of my head that are still living that I didn't see there (might have missed them):

Musial, Bench, Morgan, Jim Bunning, Catfish Hunter, Duke Snider, Eddie Matthews, Koufax, Red Schoendienst, Yaz?, Nolan Ryan, Fisk, Seaver.

Catfish Hunter (1999) and Eddie Matthews (2001) are dead.

[OleMissCub]

Catfish and Eddie Matthews are no longer alive.

LOL, well that would explain things...

[blacksilverfan12]

Jeter gets the first hit of the night and steals a base

And yes Tim McCarver, you can brush your teeth after the Derby

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Quick question. I'm still at work. Was Tim Lincecum on the field during the announcing of the teams?

[blacksilverfan12]

Quick question. I'm still at work Was Tim Lincecum on the field during the announcing of the teams?

No, he wasn't

[Seattle1]

That was Buck.

[OleMissCub]

Quick question. I'm still at work Was Tim Lincecum on the field during the announcing of the teams?

He was playing with his Thundercats toys. :-)


Seriously though, I don't recall seeing him there.

[blacksilverfan12]

That was Buck.

You didn't hear Tim say, "You mean you can't brush your teeth after the Home Run Derby?"

[steelcurtain76]

The HOFers off the top of my head that are still living that I didn't see there (might have missed them):

Musial, Bench, Morgan, Jim Bunning, Catfish Hunter, Duke Snider, Eddie Matthews, Koufax, Red Schoendienst, Yaz?, Nolan Ryan, Fisk, Seaver.

I didn't see Doerr, Monte Irvin, Orlando Cepeda, Eddie Murray either. Was Bob Feller there? I missed the Pitchers.

[Williamsburg2599]

I think there was a moment of silence for him. Fox chose not to show it. They went to commercial break.

Not surprising.




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[blacksilverfan12]

I didn't see Doerr, Monte Irvin, Orlando Cepeda, Eddie Murray either. Was Bob Feller there? I missed the Pitchers.

Cepeda and Fellere were there for sure, not sure about the others

[Honus Wagner Rules]

I guess the flu-like symptoms has knocked Lincecum out of the game. :(

[blacksilverfan12]

Not surprising.




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Haha...nice

[Honus Wagner Rules]

I didn't see Doerr, Monte Irvin, Orlando Cepeda, Eddie Murray either. Was Bob Feller there? I missed the Pitchers.

Bill Burgess told me he saw Murray, Cepeda and Feller on TV.

[parlo]

LOL, well that would explain things...
I missed the first basemen and the pitchers. Did you happen to catch who was there? I caught glimpses of a few, Tony Perez, Ford, Sutton.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Not surprising.




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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[steelcurtain76]

Bill Burgess told me he saw Murray, Cepeda and Feller on TV.

LOL..I guess I missed more of the introduction that I thought.

[Seattle1]

You know, now that I think about it this might be the one year that I wouldn't mind seeing the AL lose.

-Mariners out of it, homefield advantage in the World Series unimportant.

-Only one Mariner playing in the game.

-Would be funny to see Yankee Stadium be the site of an AL loser in it's last year.

-Give the NL a chance to win for once.

The only thing that might change my mind at this point would be if Ichiro does something spectacular in his next two at-bats, and with his play in the field, to put him in the running for MVP. Then the need for an AL would be important.

[Seattle1]

So were they saying "BOO!" or "YOUK!"?

:rofl:

[OleMissCub]

LOL..I guess I missed more of the introduction that I thought.

Ron Santo wasn't there either......

:rant:

[blacksilverfan12]

So were they saying "BOO!" or "YOUK!"?

:rofl:

Some of each :shhh:

[blacksilverfan12]

It was cool that they brought Yogi Berra in the booth

[OleMissCub]

It was cool that they brought Yogi Berra in the booth

He's definitely showing his age. :cry:

I really wish Stan could have made it there. I've heard his health is pretty poor right now.

[blacksilverfan12]

I really wish Stan could have made it there. I've heard his health is pretty poor right now.

I've heard that also, does anybody know what's wrong with him?

[blacksilverfan12]

Tim McCarver suggests we look at Ichiro for the Hall-Of-Fame. Ichiro for the Hall-Of-Fame?

[maxcarey]

Living Hall of Famers not in attendance tonight:

Sparky Anderson
Johnny Bench
Jim Bunning
Bobby Doerr
Carlton Fisk
Monte Irvin
George Kell
Sandy Koufax
Joe Morgan
Stan Musial
Nolan Ryan
Red Schoendienst
Tom Seaver
Duke Snider
Carl Yastrzemski

[OleMissCub]

Tim McCarver suggests we look at Ichiro for the Hall-Of-Fame. Ichiro for the Hall-Of-Fame?

I think that Rodriguez guy in New York has a shot too and should be considered.

[OleMissCub]

Living Hall of Famers not in attendance tonight:

Sparky Anderson
Johnny Bench
Jim Bunning
Bobby Doerr
Carlton Fisk
Monte Irvin
George Kell
Sandy Koufax
Joe Morgan
Stan Musial
Nolan Ryan
Red Schoendienst
Tom Seaver
Duke Snider
Carl Yastrzemski

I'm STUNNED that egomaniac Morgan wasn't there.

Maybe he didn't want to stand near Ryno.

[blacksilverfan12]

I think that Rodriguez guy in New York has a shot too and should be considered.

Yeah, he's pretty good

[Seattle1]

Tim McCarver suggests we look at Ichiro for the Hall-Of-Fame. Ichiro for the Hall-Of-Fame?

It has been discussed at some length here starting on 9/1/04:

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=19903

[OleMissCub]

It has been discussed at some length here starting on 9/1/04:

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=19903

I'm guessing blacksilver was being sarcastic.

[blacksilverfan12]

I'm guessing blacksilver was being sarcastic.

No, I was serious

[OleMissCub]

No, I was serious

Oh. I'm surprised there is even a discussion at the rate he is going.

[blacksilverfan12]

Oh. I'm surprised there is even a discussion at the rate he is going.

The only potential thing that could hurt him is the fact he played in Japan for a while. Lack of years here could turn some voters away

[blacksilverfan12]

Matt Holliday gives the NL the lead with a solo homer off of Ervin Santana

[OleMissCub]

The only potential thing that could hurt him is the fact he played in Japan for a while. Lack of years here could turn some voters away

True. I wouldn't put anything past the idiot HOF voters.

[Jake Patterson]

So were they saying "BOO!" or "YOUK!"?

:rofl:
Yoook!!! It's a Boston thing.

[blacksilverfan12]

Tell me that wasn't the dumbest ad for a FOX show ever

[KevinWI]

It was cool that they brought Yogi Berra in the booth

Yeah, Yogi called Joe Buck 'Jack Buck', which I thought was pretty funny, and so did McCarver but Joe didn't seem to have any reaction.

[maxcarey]

I'm STUNNED that egomaniac Morgan wasn't there.

Wasn't he there last night for the Home Run Derby?

[blacksilverfan12]

Wasn't he there last night for the Home Run Derby?

Yeah, one of the broadcasters

[maxcarey]

Well then, that's just silly that he couldn't attend the ceremony.

[blacksilverfan12]

2-0 NL after Lance Berkman drives in Hanley Ramirez on a sac fly

[Jake Patterson]

Steinbrenner ought to be in the hall of fame???

[blacksilverfan12]

Steinbrenner ought to be in the hall of fame???

Are there any owners in the Hall? If so, I don't see why not

[blacksilverfan12]

Not really that big of a deal, but Josh Hamilton gets a hit. Good for him

[parlo]

Are there any owners in the Hall? If so, I don't see why notBill Veeck, Walter O'Malley, Connie Mack

[blacksilverfan12]

Bill Veeck, Walter O'Malley, Connie Mack

Ahh...right. That's why Mack managed for 50+ years. In Steinbrenner's case, he rebuilt the Yankees. 10 pennants, 6 titles. Not the most modest owner, but were any of the above? A Hall-Of-Famer in my mind

[blacksilverfan12]

I feel the same way. He's been around since 1951, which is incredible.

Been wondering this throughout the game, but who's doing the PA?
It sounds like either a recording of his voice or a guy who sounds like him

[YankeeDJW]

It's not Bob Shepherd? I haven't been paying attention to the PA...

[blacksilverfan12]

It's not Bob Shepherd? I haven't been paying attention to the PA...

No, he's sick. It's an imposter! :shhh:

[blacksilverfan12]

Believe it or not, JD Drew takes Edinson Volquez deep to tie the game at 2

[Jake Patterson]

Believe it or not, JD Drew takes Edinson Volquez deep to tie the game at 2
Go Sox!
.

[blacksilverfan12]

That picture of Papelbon is hilarious

[Williamsburg2599]

Can some of the Yankee fans here prove to me there all not peons to the NYDN and actually took Pap's comments into context? This is rediculous.

[blacksilverfan12]

And the crowd's reaction is not a surprise. However, if his wife (who's pregnant) was threatened, then that's about as classless as you can get

I'm laughing at the "Overrated" chant

[blacksilverfan12]

Adrian Gonzalez gives the NL a 3-2 lead by driving in Miguel Tejada

[OleMissCub]

I believe in Karma, so I say "THANK YOU!" to Yanks fans.

[Jake Patterson]

The Sox have their anti-Yankee issues up here in Boston, but I have never seen as much anti-anything as I did when I was at Yankee Stadium last Tuesday. They had anti-Boston stuff everywhere!

Why? What does that bring to the game? Other than everyone looking like a bunch of Bozo's

[Williamsburg2599]

The Sox have their anti-Yankee issues up here in Boston, but I have never seen as much anti-anything as I did when I was at Yankee Stadium last Tuesday. They had anti-Boston stuff everywhere!

Why? What does that bring to the game? Other than everyone looking like a bunch of Bozo's

I really don't know. I remember the Yankee players being booed in 99, but nothing like how they treated Pap.

[Jake Patterson]

MLB got 6th Avenue ready??? What about the City of New York??

[blacksilverfan12]

The Sox have their anti-Yankee issues up here in Boston, but I have never seen as much anti-anything as I did when I was at Yankee Stadium last Tuesday. They had anti-Boston stuff everywhere!

Why? What does that bring to the game? Other than everyone looking like a bunch of Bozo's

It's a rivalry nobody wants to let go of. Maybe it's fun to them. I've never bought into the Dodgers/Giants rivalry myself

[Jake Patterson]

It's a rivalry nobody wants to let go of. Maybe it's fun to them. I've never bought into the Dodgers/Giants rivalry myselfHad I worn a Red Sox hat I am certain I would not have left the Bronx in one piece.

[blacksilverfan12]

Had I worn a Red Sox hat I am certain I would not have left the Bronx in one piece.

Not likely. I remember a Dodger fan was killed in SF a couple years ago

[TonyK]

Had I worn a Red Sox hat I am certain I would not have left the Bronx in one piece.

Nor would the hat.

[Williamsburg2599]

Not likely. I remember a Dodger fan was killed in SF a couple years ago

A Sox fan was killed by a Yankee fan who hit her with her car. Idiots killing people doesn't prove how intense a rivalry is.

[blacksilverfan12]

A Sox fan was killed by a Yankee fan who hit her with her car. Idiots killing people doesn't prove how intense a rivalry is.

No. It only proves how obsessive it can be. As I type this, Evan Longoria doubles in Grady Sizemore to tie the game, 3 apiece

[blacksilverfan12]

Well, now Rivera can't save the game, nor can any AL pitcher

[Jake Patterson]

Well, now Rivera can't save the game, nor can any AL pitcher
Justice perhaps??

[blacksilverfan12]

Justice perhaps??

Like what OleMissCub said, karma

[parlo]

The Sox have their anti-Yankee issues up here in Boston, but I have never seen as much anti-anything as I did when I was at Yankee Stadium last Tuesday. They had anti-Boston stuff everywhere!

Why? What does that bring to the game? Other than everyone looking like a bunch of Bozo'sGet off your self righteous horse. There was just a murder charge against someone at a bar in Andover who beat to death some guy in a Yankee hat.

[Williamsburg2599]

No. It only proves how obsessive it can be.

It proves people can drink achohol and/or do very stupid stuff.

That's about it. I doubt they were thinking of how much they loved their team while they were murdering someone. The Dodger/Giants killing was more gang affliation than anything, and the Sox/Yankee one was after a night of drinking.

[blacksilverfan12]

Rivera comes in in the top of the ninth, one out, runner on first

Great entrance song for a closer, IMO

[blacksilverfan12]

It proves people can drink achohol and/or do very stupid stuff.

That's about it. I doubt they were thinking of how much they loved their team while they were murdering someone. The Dodger/Giants killing was more gang affliation than anything, and the Sox/Yankee one was after a night of drinking.

Yeah, alcohol makes you do dumb stuff

[Williamsburg2599]

Get off your self righteous horse. There was just a murder charge against someone at a bar in Andover who beat to death some guy in a Yankee hat.

Googled returned no results. Have a source?

[blacksilverfan12]

We go to the bottom of the ninth, tied at 3

[Williamsburg2599]

Wow nice play. If only Joe Buck didn't react like this was a spring training game. A strike-him-out throw-him-out in the top of the 9th inning in a game that "counts", you can raise your voice a little Mr. Buck.

[YankeeDJW]

I'm laughing at the "Overrated" chant

It's part of the game. Just like the "Yankees suck" chant, which I too find quite funny.

I haven't followed the Paplebon story too closely (actually, not at all, to be honest) so I know very little about the context. But from what I've seen in headlines, it appears Paps said some things that could easily have been taken a certain way and even more easily taken out of context. He then realized it and came out and softened his tone. I honestly felt a little bad for him on the mound tonight, but I don't know what everyone expected. He's a Red Sox (Sock?) who made a contoversial comment before the game. He got booed. Big deal.

[parlo]

Googled returned no results. Have a source?There are several other posts that mention it too. Perhaps it didnt happen in Andover. Maybe one of the people are from there or were visiting there.

[blacksilverfan12]

It's part of the game. Just like the "Yankees suck" chant, which I too find quite funny.

I always found chants like that to be funny. Especially this one (http://youtube.com/watch?v=-pfjwC8gjXQ) from college basketball

[parlo]

It's part of the game. Just like the "Yankees suck" chant, which I too find quite funny.

I haven't followed the Paplebon story too closely (actually, not at all, to be honest) so I know very little about the context. But from what I've seen in headlines, it appears Paps said some things that could easily have been taken a certain way and even more easily taken out of context. He then realized it and came out and softened his tone. I honestly felt a little bad for him on the mound tonight, but I don't know what everyone expected. He's a Red Sox (Sock?) who made a contoversial comment before the game. He got booed. Big deal.The tabloids and talk radio had nothing to talk about today, and blew Paplebons comments way out of context.

[NYMets523]

This game is fixed. Wagner's 1-2 pitch was a strike. Guzman was safe. Wright was called out on a ball. I hope this game ends in a tie just to embarass Selig more. He'll probably make the winner of the ASG start the WS 1-0.

[blacksilverfan12]

I hope this game ends in a tie just to embarass Selig more

I wouldn't think they'd call the game a tie. Besides, that game was in an NL park, where pitchers would get pinch hit for

[blacksilverfan12]

We go to extra innings!

[Williamsburg2599]

It's part of the game. Just like the "Yankees suck" chant, which I too find quite funny.

I haven't followed the Paplebon story too closely (actually, not at all, to be honest) so I know very little about the context. But from what I've seen in headlines, it appears Paps said some things that could easily have been taken a certain way and even more easily taken out of context. He then realized it and came out and softened his tone. I honestly felt a little bad for him on the mound tonight, but I don't know what everyone expected. He's a Red Sox (Sock?) who made a contoversial comment before the game. He got booed. Big deal.

That's the problem with headlines, especally ones in the NYDN.


"We've both earned that right; us, by winning the World Series and having the opportunity of having our manager there and our team being represented, and Mariano by what he's done for this role, we're in Yankee Stadium and blah, blah, blah," Papelbon said. "It's not that easy. Everybody thinks it's a cut and dry answer, but it's not.



"If I was managing the team, I would close," Papelbon said. "I'm not managing the team, so it don't matter."

SOURCE (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/allstar08/news/story?id=3488087)

I've been trying to find what the heck he said before that, but you know what? No one published it. Hmmm....

Anyways, the press was in the room when Papelbon saw the headline of the Daily News:

“What the (expletive!)”

“It just kind of (ticks) me off because if that gets (expletive) written and I’m riding in a (expletive) parade today with my wife (Ashley), so she doesn’t feel safe because some (expletive) from the Daily News says I want to close the game and that ain’t true,” he said. “See what Im saying?”

The parade Papelbon referred to was the one in downtown Manhattan this afternoon, showcasing the players participating in tonight’Jonas All-Star Game.

“That was an easy headline for that (expletive) to say, ‘Yeah, Papelbon wants to close,’ ” he said. “Of course I do, that’s my competitive nature. But I’m stepping away and saying I don’t need to close.”

Papelbon pointed out that his biggest problem with the Daily News story and presentation was how it affected his wife, who is due with the couple’s first child on New Year’s Day.

“My wife wasn’t comfortable,” Papelbon said. “She’s pregnant with a baby. It (ticks) me off. So some (expletive) from the Daily News can get his headline.

“It kind of (ticks) you off when your family gets involved like that and you’re trying to enjoy an experience with your family and you have a wife who is pregnant who doesn’t feel safe riding in a red carpet event with you. ... How would you feel?”

Papelbon also reiterated his stance on who should close out tonight’s game, insisting he has no problem with Rivera finishing a potential AL win.

“I understand what it’s about to put in your time and pay your dues in this game,” he said. “If you were to ask me, of course I would want to close. I’m not going to back down from anything. But that’s not what the (expletive) was said. It was an easy headline for that (expletive).”

Source (http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1107261)

Looks to me like Papelbon made one little comment suggesting he was one of the premier closers in the game and a world champion and maybe he had earned the right to close the game, and the New York Daily Tabloi....ahem... News made a cover story out of it.

[parlo]

Yeah, alcohol makes you do dumb stuffHeres another one that happened in Cape Cod recently.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g-o7vOb0S4jzeFKDv1olWuonDDZAD91P90805

[YankeeDJW]

Thanks for the sources. Good to see the whole story.


On the game now, Mo is mowing them down. Fun to watch!

[Jake Patterson]

Get off your self righteous horse. There was just a murder charge against someone at a bar in Andover who beat to death some guy in a Yankee hat.
I don't need a high horse to know that she was an idiot also..

[redlegsfan21]

Did anyone catch the comment by McCarver where he wanted it proven to him that Manny is batting .173 on balls low and in and then Manny grounded out on a ball low and in and McCarver still wasn't convinced.

[Williamsburg2599]

Did anyone catch the comment by McCarver where he wanted it proven to him that Manny is batting .173 on balls low and in and then Manny grounded out on a ball low and in and McCarver still wasn't convinced.

No, but I believe it.

[YankeeDJW]

Did anyone catch the comment by McCarver where he wanted it proven to him that Manny is batting .173 on balls low and in and then Manny grounded out on a ball low and in and McCarver still wasn't convinced.

Those silly facts and statisitcs. Of course McCarver's right.


DOUBLE PLAY!!

[Solrac]

2 E for Uggla :eek:
Winning Run on 3B

[redlegsfan21]

That is why Brandon Phillips should have been an All-Star. Less HRs but better defense.

[OleMissCub]

Way to go Uggla. Bravo.

[Solrac]

Oh my...Sizemore...Game probably over.:hp

[rockin500]

Way to go Uggla. Bravo.
still holding out hope for a triple play!

[redlegsfan21]

1 out, whew

[redlegsfan21]

2 away, breathing.

[Jake Patterson]

Score it 3-2?? Way to go Joe. After listening to Yankee and Sox games all my life I have to say that these guys are terrible..

[Solrac]

Guzman playing 3B??
Well 2 Outs with Morneau batting.

[blacksilverfan12]

And now the NL is almost out of a huge jam

[blacksilverfan12]

And we go to the 11th, thanks to a great play by Tejada. A great job by Aaron Cook to get out of that

[redlegsfan21]

Thank you Aaron Cook. :bowdown:

[YankeeDJW]

That's when you need a Derek Jeter or David Ortiz at the plate. What a Houdini act by Cook!

[Solrac]

3 OUTS!!
waw...and people thought that the AL would win this one easy
They can't even score with the bases loaded 0 outs and Sizemore Longoria & Morneau batting.

[blacksilverfan12]

Joakim Soria comes in to relieve Rivera

[blacksilverfan12]

So, as we play deep into the night, the talk of a tie comes up...

[AutographCollector]

This game is cuckoo. Geez, I just got off of work during the 9th inning. Topsy turvy game.

[redlegsfan21]

This game is cuckoo. Geez, I just got off of work during the 9th inning. Topsy turvy game.

Thank god I don't have to work tomorrow, still got to get up early but I'll have a chance to sleep.

[blacksilverfan12]

Thank god I don't have to work tomorrow, still got to get up early but I'll have a chance to sleep.

Yeah, it's what? 11 in Ohio?

[NYMets523]

I REALLY hope this is a tie. Bud Selig will become a clown (not that he isn't already).

[redlegsfan21]

Here's an idea, a couple of years ago before the NHL officially made it a rule, they're All-Star game was tied after overtime so they put in the shootout, 5 vs. 5. Well, we should have a HR derby to decide the winner. Let's put Pujols, Berkman, Uggla, Wright, and Braun against Nathan, Papelbon, F. Rodriguez, Rivera, and Soria. Those are the hitters for this HR derby.

[redlegsfan21]

Yeah, it's what? 11 in Ohio?

We're eastern time. 12:18 AM.

[blacksilverfan12]

A beautiful throw by Russell Martin, and redlegsfan's idea is a good one

However, it looks like Kinsler was safe...:shhh:

[blacksilverfan12]

We're eastern time. 12:18 AM.

Oh. I would hate that, how every major sporting event goes late into the night (At least they seem to end later back east, it's only 9:20 out here)

[redlegsfan21]

Oh. I would hate that, how every major sporting event goes late into the night (At least they seem to end later back east, it's only 9:20 out here)

Not as bad as a stupid Reds-Dodgers game that I stayed up for on a schoolnight that ended at 4:00 AM. And all that sacrifice to watch my team lose.

[redlegsfan21]

I REALLY hope this is a tie. Bud Selig will become a clown (not that he isn't already).

How is this Selig's fault?

[blacksilverfan12]

Not as bad as a stupid Reds-Dodgers game that I stayed up for on a schoolnight that ended at 4:00 AM. And all that sacrifice to watch my team lose.

That sucks, I thought it was bad when I stayed up 'till 4 to watch those games in Japan back in April. And another great defensive play by Russell Martin :bowdown:

[redlegsfan21]

Thank you Nate McLouth :bowdown::bowdown:

[Williamsburg2599]

Any frustration created by the lack of the AL's ability to close this out is offset by my pure enjoyment knowing Selig is squirming in his seat right now.

"Please don't make me do stuff."

[blacksilverfan12]

Why not? Let's go to the 12th

[redlegsfan21]

That sucks, I thought it was bad when I stayed up 'till 4 to watch those games in Japan back in April. And another great defensive play by Russell Martin :bowdown:

I just watched the replays that were on at noon.

[blacksilverfan12]

I just watched the replays that were on at noon.

That would have been a better idea, cause I was too tired to watch the entire game. I went to bed after the first inning and slept 'till 2 or something

[Solrac]

Oh my...Sherrill and Kazmir left in the AL
Marmol Lidge Lincecum and Webb in the NL

[blacksilverfan12]

Oh my...Sherrill and Kazmir left in the AL
Marmol Lidge Lincecum and Webb in the NL

I don't think Lincecum can pitch tonight. I don't even know if he's in the stadium tonight

[NYMets523]

How is this Selig's fault?

It isn't. It'd just make him look dumber because manager are supposed to manage differently.

[redlegsfan21]

NOOOOO, not Dan Uggla.

[mojorisin71]

Not as bad as a stupid Reds-Dodgers game that I stayed up for on a schoolnight that ended at 4:00 AM. And all that sacrifice to watch my team lose.
Was that the game where Ramon Martinez hit a walk-off HR in the 16th?

[Solrac]

Come on Uggla.
2 R per E right here!!

[redlegsfan21]

Was that the game where Ramon Martinez hit a walk-off HR in the 16th?

I don't remember, I was too tired, I just know the Reds lost.

[mojorisin71]

Oh my...Sherrill and Kazmir left in the AL
Marmol Lidge Lincecum and Webb in the NL
Lincecum was hospitalized and released earlier today. I don't think he'll pull a Willis Reed and make a heroic effort to pitch tonight.

[Solrac]

What Was That!?!?

[redlegsfan21]

:pray: O great Adrian Gonzalez, please send thy ball thy 500 ft. Please thy send winning run home with thy amazing hit, o please, please, please, great Adrian Gonzalez.

Amen

[redlegsfan21]

Curse ye ol weak Adrian Gonzalez, may you sleep on a board tonight.

[Williamsburg2599]

Fox almost misses a walk off. Hooray sponsors!

[Solrac]

THAT was close:eek:

[Solrac]

If NL wins...Cook 4 MVP.
Even if they lose he should get it.

[redlegsfan21]

Fox almost misses a walk off. Hooray sponsors!

I've always wanted that to happen, but not tonight.

[OleMissCub]

[redlegsfan21]

(added) with a National League win.

[redlegsfan21]

Joe Buck blames the stadium.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

If they keep going are they going to run out of pitchers?! The AL is in trouble.

[Williamsburg2599]

If they keep going are they going to run out of pitchers?! The AL is in trouble.

Good thing almost all the HOF is there. Put in Eck! For the AL!

[rockin500]

If they keep going are they going to run out of pitchers?! The AL is in trouble.
yes. kazmir is all thats left to the Rays unless they move a position player to pitch (and kazmir to play the field.)

[Honus Wagner Rules]

If the AL runs out of pitchers I guess they'll have to use a position player to pitch! :rofl:

[redlegsfan21]

That's right NL, just make the AL run out of pitchers. GREAT strategy.

[Williamsburg2599]

Oh man. Great idea. Let Ichiro pitch.

[redlegsfan21]

Oh man. Great idea. Let Ichiro pitch.

If only Josh Hamilton was still in because he was designated as the Reds emergency pitcher last year.

[NYMets523]

Carlos Marmol is in so the AL will probably win soon.


Fact: The NL would have won if Johan Santana was on the roster.

[redlegsfan21]

UGGLA is UGLY.

[Williamsburg2599]

Apprently it's way past Uggla's bedtime. (zing!)

[rockin500]

poor uggla cant catch any breaks.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

What remaining AL players have good arms?

[Solrac]

Carlos Marmol is in so the AL will probably win soon.


Fact: The NL would have won if Johan Santana was on the roster.

3rd out nice job Marmol

And how is that a fact??
Johan would be on the roster if he were a better pitcher.

[redlegsfan21]

OK Dan, you're up 4th. You drive in a run, I voting for you as my NL Gold Glove winner at 2B.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

3rd out nice job Marmol

And how is that a fact??
Johan would be on the roster if he were a better pitcher.

I heard they was talk that Clint Hurdle tried to get Johan to replace Lincecum. Is Johan even in the New York area right now?

[NYMets523]

3rd out nice job Marmol

And how is that a fact??
Johan would be on the roster if he were a better pitcher.

He knows almost all of the AL hitters, is left handed, and is on 5 days rest. He would be on the team if he people looked past his W/L record and saw the stats that actually matter like ERA. You can't convince me or anyone Brian Wilson and Carlos Marmol deserve to be on the team more than Santana.


I heard they was talk that Clint Hurdle tried to get Johan to replace Lincecum. Is Johan even in the New York area right now?

He probably is. He lives in Venezuela which is a long flight. He's probably asleep now. But by the time he gets up, showers, and gets to the stadium it'll be going on. They could always bring him in by helicopter. That'd be so cool.

[DoubleX]

Nightmare game for Uggla, but he's gotten away with it so far. Makes me wonder if he's tightening up a little.

Why is Marmol an All Star? The only more questionable All Star is Jason Varitek (who has to be one of the most questionable of all time).

They need to have a rule where if the game has gone to a certain point, you can reinsert position players that you've removed. At this point, I don't want to keep watching the last guys that were added to the team AB after AB, I want to see the big names. What sense does it make that A-Rod, Berkman and Manny get 2 ABs and Michael Young, Corey Hart, and Nate McClouth getting 4 or more, and at the most dramatic moments. That's not what the fans want to see.

Also, they need to expand the rosters or else drop that every team needs a representative rule. When they expanded the league in the 90s they didn't expand the All Star roster to take into account the additional required spots. Adding a spot or two would make the pitching situations less dicey in extra inning games. The last thing Francona probably wants to do now is have to use Scott Kazmir for more than an inning, if at all.

EDIT: Santana should be on the roster over Marmol. Santana is 4th in the NL in ERA, 9th in WHIP, 7th in Ks, 6th in IP.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

OK Dan, you're up 4th. You drive in a run, I voting for you as my NL Gold Glove winner at 2B.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Williamsburg2599]

What remaining AL players have good arms?

J.D Drew is one.

McCarver finally cracks a funny joke!!!

[KevinWI]

According to Buck & McCarver, the rules allow them to insert a catcher back into the game in case of emergency. Maybe Selig could make a ruling, like they could start putting some pitchers back into the game.

[Knick9]

Go Tie Game. ;)

All that needs to happen is the NL to run out of pitchers (and emergency ones) as well as the AL and then Bud Selig will have a real problem on his hands! Just wonderful! :dance

[Transplanted Fan]

Wow. There are a lot of empty seats at Yankee Stadium for an extra-inning All-Star Game.

[Williamsburg2599]

Wow. There are a lot of empty seats at Yankee Stadium for an extra-inning All-Star Game.

Hey, if you pay $150 for tickets (at the lowest), it's not like your looking for your money's worth. :confused:

Let the people standing outside in like the old days.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Wow. There are a lot of empty seats at Yankee Stadium for an extra-inning All-Star Game.

Well it is 1:13 am in New York. :)

[redlegsfan21]

Still like my idea a few posts ago.

[OleMissCub]

[Williamsburg2599]

So when do they go to Penalty kicks?

[rockin500]

Why is Marmol an All Star? The only more questionable All Star is Jason Varitek (who has to be one of the most questionable of all time).



EDIT: Santana should be on the roster over Marmol. Santana is 4th in the NL in ERA, 9th in WHIP, 7th in Ks, 6th in IP.

thems the rules. Hurdle had to pick the next pick on the players ballot when Wood went down with injury. That was marmol.

[Williamsburg2599]

Is it just me or would any other announcing duo be having a lot more fun with this game....

[Transplanted Fan]

Well it is 1:13 am in New York. :)

It is here too, but I'm still staying up. Big Apple wusses!

[YankeeDJW]

Wow. There are a lot of empty seats at Yankee Stadium for an extra-inning All-Star Game.

It is almost 1:30 in the morning and it's basically an exhibition game. Add the fact that no more Yankees can play and people who have to work in the morning or have young kids have an almost decent excuse for leaving "early". :candle:

[rockin500]

on to 15....

[keystone]

Wow, someone's still up besides me... This is getting dicey. And, yes. Another announcing duo would've been a whole lot better -- for the last six hours! :eek:

I am SO glad I'm not Dan Uggla.

[redlegsfan21]

It is almost 1:30 in the morning and it's basically an exhibition game. Add the fact that no more Yankees can play and people who have to work in the morning or have young kids have an almost decent excuse for leaving "early". :candle:

There is no excuse for leaving a game early. The Yankees should lock the gates and hold the fans hostage, that would be fun.

[Williamsburg2599]

[redlegsfan21]

OK Dan, hit a HR, you will get my vote for Gold Glove at P,C,1B,2B,3B,SS,LF,RF,and CF.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

It is here too, but I'm still staying up. Big Apple wusses!

Don't let ElHalo hear you say that! :D

[rockin500]

uggla? not good night for him.

[Williamsburg2599]

Anyone else cheering for the game to continue? Let's see how long we can drag this out.

[redlegsfan21]

Is it just me or is there a full moon out?

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Wow, thew AL has bar far the better team on the field right now. They still have Sizemore, Kinsler, Drew, and Moureau. The NL has a bunch of "no-name" guys other than Tejeda.

[DoubleX]

thems the rules. Hurdle had to pick the next pick on the players ballot when Wood went down with injury. That was marmol.

Didn't realize.

I still feel strongly though that in a rare event like this where the game goes to a ridiculous length, managers should be able to reinsert players. People want to see the big names in these big moments, they shouldn't be relegated to being distant memories.

I also believe the rosters should be expanded, to account for the league's expansion last decade, and to safeguard against the problem Terry Francona is currently facing with Scott Kazmir.

[redlegsfan21]

Anyone else cheering for the game to continue? Let's see how long we can drag this out.

Only if the NL wins, I've sacrificed too much sleep.

[Williamsburg2599]

I really want to see Fox cut to Selig trying to sneak out of Yankee Stadium with a Bobby V. like fake 'stach and a trenchcoat on.

[Knick9]

Selig: Noooooo!!!!! My master plan is ruined! What will I do now?!?

(Sorry, couldn't resist)

Yeah, you bet I want a tie game. I want this to blow up in Bud's face so bad! His reaction will be priceless! Come on you guys! Keep this thing going! :dance

[OleMissCub]

the AL needs to run out that old guy who threw to Hamilton.

[redlegsfan21]

Whose all in favor of a HR derby instead of a 16th inning?

[rockin500]

Didn't realize.

I still feel strongly though that in a rare event like this where the game goes to a ridiculous length, managers should be able to reinsert players. People want to see the big names in these big moments, they shouldn't be relegated to being distant memories.

I also believe the rosters should be expanded, to account for the league's expansion last decade, and to safeguard against the problem Terry Francona is currently facing with Scott Kazmir.
and both leagues were kinda hamstrung with a lot of the pitchers goin on sunday (and lincecum getting sick today).

[KHenry14]

Jeez, this game just keeps going....

If we actually get a result, it's sort of a shame that the stars of the game will have no impact. this game will get decided by the likes of a Guzman, a Longoria or a Quintin, instead of a Rodriguez, Ramirez or Jeter. Just longing back to the days when Mays would play the whole game. <sigh>

[BenB]

This is a classic, I absolutely love it. If Kazmir goes over his count, I hope they put a position player in.

They could either have one of the best All Star Games in history, or a PR disaster.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Hey Brad Lidge is in the HOUSE!!!! :bowdown: Hey, why did Webb only pitch one inning?

[Williamsburg2599]

Whose all in favor of a HR derby instead of a 16th inning?

Two words: Sausage race.

[Solrac]

He knows almost all of the AL hitters, is left handed, and is on 5 days rest. He would be on the team if he people looked past his W/L record and saw the stats that actually matter like ERA. You can't convince me or anyone Brian Wilson and Carlos Marmol deserve to be on the team more than Santana.


Meh don't blame me blame the players.
Besides if Santana was in the NL wouldn't be guaranteed a victory.
That's why i meant about the "FACT" part.

[keystone]

Yes, allow players to be re-inserted, most definitely. There oughta be a law.

[DoubleX]

and both leagues were kinda hamstrung with a lot of the pitchers goin on sunday (and lincecum getting sick today).

Yup. I suppose one thing they could do is make it so pitchers that go on Sunday cannot be active for the All Star game and have to be replaced. Seems kind of unfair to the pitcher though, but realistically, what team would want their starter to pitch just two days later? If this had been a normal game, using guys like Kazmir, Webb, and Lincecum (if he made it) wouldn't be issues anyway as they likely would have sat it out, so why not just replace them?


Yes, allow players to be re-inserted, most definitely. There oughta be a law.

Wouldn't work for pitchers of course, but with position players, I'd much rather see the big names up in these big moments then the end of the bench getting 4 or 5 ABs. I'd say if the game goes past 10 innings, you should be able to reinsert players.

[NYMets523]

Lidge is pitching. Now who is left for the NL?

[Solrac]

Two words: Sausage race.

Sausage race ends in tie.
Selig comes on the field.
Throws a coin.
NL wins Home Field Advantage.
Because this time-it counts ;)

[Transplanted Fan]

Clutch play by Ludwick!

[Solrac]

Lidge is pitching. Now who is left for the NL?

Briann Mccann

EDIT: Nevermind

[rockin500]

Jeez, this game just keeps going....

If we actually get a result, it's sort of a shame that the stars of the game will have no impact. this game will get decided by the likes of a Guzman, a Longoria or a Quintin, instead of a Rodriguez, Ramirez or Jeter. Just longing back to the days when Mays would play the whole game. <sigh>
well, JD drew could answer it.

[rockin500]

Hey Brad Lidge is in the HOUSE!!!! :bowdown: Hey, why did Webb only pitch one inning?
108 pitches sunday.

[dbacksfan95]

Don't forget to rate the 2008 MLB All-Star Game. Click this link to view and rate the thread. http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=80369

[SoxFan68]

So who's the first position player on the AL to pitch? I guess Wade Boggs could walk through that door.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

So Lidge is the last NL pitcher?

[KHenry14]

Two words: Sausage race.

Put me down for $5 on the bratwurst!

[NYMets523]

Don't forget to rate the 2008 MLB All-Star Game. Click this link to view and rate the thread. http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=80369

It's not even over yet.

[dbacksfan95]

It's not even over yet.

after the game.

[Williamsburg2599]

Micheal Young is not new to ASG heroics.

[Solrac]

So Lidge is the last NL pitcher?

Unless Wood comes in.

[Transplanted Fan]

It's finally over!

[dbacksfan95]

now its over.
nice slide by morneau, although he was out.

[KHenry14]

Michael Young is just clutch....

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Lidge!!!!!

[Transplanted Fan]

now its over.
nice slide by morneau, although he was out.
No, he was definitely safe.