The Splendid Splinter
06-17-2008, 04:41 PM
I figured I would put our thread containing our rosters. So please try to keep it up to date with your roster so people can see who been picked and who hasn't...
Here's the link to the discussion page:
http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=78812
Here's the link to the draft page:
http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=78951
Team Name:
Earl Park Squirrels
Stadium: Seals Stadium
Dimensions:
LF: 365
LC: 375
LCF( just left of dead center): 404
CF: 410
RCF (just right of dead center in the corner): 415
RC (just right of the 415 mark where the seats jutted out): 397
RF: 355
backstop: 55.42 ft.
fence height:
LF: 15 ft. (5 ft. concrete below 10 ft. wire)
CF: 30.5 ft.
RF: 16 ft. (5 ft. concrete below 11 ft. wire)
Manager:
M: Earl Weaver
Starters:
C: SH- Biz Mackey
1B: RH- Frank Thomas
2B: LH- Chino Smith
SS: RH- Ernie Banks
3B: RH- Dick Allen
LF: LH- Mel Ott
CF: RH- Willie Mays
RF: LH- Oscar Charleston
DH: LH- Ted Williams
Bench:
Position/Name/AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS+
BN: 1B/OF SH- Lance Berkman .304/.414/.566/149
BN: IF SH- George Davis .295/.361/.405/121
BN: C RH- Gabby Hartnett .297/.370/.489/126
BN: OF SH- Tim Raines .294/.385/.425/123
BN: PH RH- Smokey Joe Williams (If I really needed a PH here and there due to long games or a couple people got injured)
Starting Rotation: (career ERA+)
SP: LH- Randy Johnson 137
SP: RH- Smokey Joe Williams
SP: LH- Carl Hubbell 130
SP: RH- Kazuhisa Inao
SP: LH- Whitey Ford 133
Relief:
(both of my LRs are actually SPs that are converted to RPs, they will come in and pitch as much as needed or if they had to start every now and then)
LR: RH- Kevin Brown 127
LR: RH- Fergie Jenkins 115
RP: LH- Jesse Orosco 125 basically my lefty inning eater out of the pen...
RP: LH- B.J. Ryan 137 my lefty specialist also pitches an inning here and there to relieve Orosco from a heavy workload
RP: RH- Armando Benitez 139
RP: RH- Dan Quisenberry 146
CL: RH- Trevor Hoffman 144
Lineup: (career AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS+)
1. LH- Chino Smith
2. SH- Biz Mackey
3. LH- Ted Williams .344/.482/.634/191
4. RH- Frank Thomas .302/.420/.558/157
5. LH- Oscar Charleston
6. RH- Willie Mays .302/.384/.557/156
7. LH- Mel Ott .304/.414/.533/155
8. RH- Dick Allen .292/.378/.534/156
9. RH- Ernie Banks .274/.330/.500/122
Analysis:
My Analysis(before the draft): Basically what I was going for was a great offense with a great OBP overall and a very solid pitching staff with 2 Aces along with it. I believe I did just that.
Offense: My offense basically does have sluggers from 1-9. Chino Smith is my leadoff hitter because he is the best hitter in my lineup AVG-wise. He was basically a LH Hornsby. Yes, he did a short career and it was all peak, but you could argue it was one of the best ever even with an adjustment. Biz Mackey is there more for his defense, but he was solid offensively. He's 2nd in my lineup cuz I really didn't know where else to put him. Ted Williams at the 3 spot... No need to say why. Same with Frank Thomas at cleanup. My next 2 players in Charleston and Mays are basically the same so they can flip-flop but I'm going with the RH/LH pattern. Mel Ott is a great hitter with a very good OBP that will drive in a lot of runs and be on base for my pure sluggers. Dick Allen is on my team mainly for his peak, which I consider the best ever at 3B. Ernie Banks is a pretty good guy at the 9 spot. I got him basically because the best available SS left and his defense was very good when he was at SS. Overall, I think it is great and top 3 easily IMO if when you consider how good my team does in OBP compare to other teams (only Banks is below .378 career in my lineup).
Defense: I think my team is probably average or maybe barely above average. Mackey is a top tier defensive C and a great leader/teacher to others. Banks was great while he was a SS. Both Charleston and Mays are top notch CFers with Ott as being one of the best defensive RFers as well. I think I have the best defensive OFs in this league. Smith at 2B is the only position I'm unsure of, but with his offense... I can afford having him there. Thomas and Allen are my black holes on defense, but make up for it on offense. Overall, I think I'm decent defensively. I don't know where I am compared to the other teams here.
Baserunning: I have some station to station runners with Mackey, Thomas, and Williams. Allen, Banks, Ott, and Smith had some speed. Charleston and Mays are my stealers on this team. While this team won't steal a lot of bases or very fast overall, they make up for it with hitting a lot of extra base hits.
Bench: My bench is more towards filling roles on my team than getting the best player available. Berkman will be my slugger off the bench and pinch hitter with a very good eye at the plate. He also can play the corner OFs with mainly being a 1B. George Davis is basically my defensive replacement at 2B/SS/3B where he is above average at all 3 position which is really hard to find and also a pinch runner as well. Gabby Hartnett is a very good offensive C with good D to go with it. Tim Raines is a guy I picked based on who was a better fit or need on my team. He will be my pinch runner since he has a great SB% and pinch hitter since he got a very good eye and will be a leadoff hitter in my lineup when he starts in the OFs. Berkman, Davis, and Raines are all switch hitter so that's a big advantage to me when other teams put in their specialist relievers.
Pitching: I have 2 Aces on my team with 3 great #3 starters to fill out my rotation. Randy Johnson is who I consider the best lefty ever, but I go back and forth between him and Grove sometimes so he's 2nd best at worst. Smokey Joe Williams is considered the best negro league pitcher ever over Paige. He is definately top 10 material and maybe top 5 even. Smokey Joe was also a good hitter so he can even pitch hit for me if I needed it. Even my great grandpa rated Williams over Walter Johnson in his all time list so I couldn't pass him up. My next three guys are all very good and solid. Hubbell, who is my 2nd lefty in the rotation, has that great screwball and anybody who strikes out Ruth, Gehrig, Foxx in a row gets a place on my rotation. He has a very good peak as well. Whitey Ford also has a good peak like Hubbell, but he has the most experience pitching in the big games and does quite well as his postseason numbers show. Inao is a question mark on my pitching staff. He does get a knock for pitching in the Japanese League. From what I've read and look at his stats, he seems like Sandy Koufax but with a longer peak. He has a very good postseason experience like Ford in the Japan Series. I also got him because he pitched very well against Oh, Nomura, and Nagashima in his career. Overall I think my rotation stack up very well against anybody. I cover all 3 areas of the poll we're doing: a series, prime/best years, and career.
Bullpen: My bullpen doesn't have any superstar name. I believe it is very VERY solid with enough innings to go around. The closest one to a superstar name is my closer Trevor Hoffman, who is really underrated IMO. I have B.J. Ryan to be like a lefty specialist as he's nasty against them (.172/.273/.260 line), but he is the only guy I have with a short career or no decline years. Orosco is a great consistent lefty reliever to have on a team. Quisenberry is a great control reliever with a long peak (9 years) that a lot of relievers don't have with a lot of IP on top of that. Benitez is more of my Ks reliever. He has great K/9 with a couple of great years. Pretty much all of these guys can close, but Hoffman will be the main closer. Now I have two SP that will be converted to spot starters/long relievers. Kevin Brown is a guy I picked solely on his great peak. People will knock him down a little for being mentioned in the Mitchell Report, but as a long reliever he'll work and we don't know the extent of how long he was using. Fergie Jenkins was a personal favorite of mine. While he doesn't have a great peak like the others, he was very consistent. I also got him for his WHIP and his K:BB, but the only knock on him was all his runs given up were like HRs as he is 2nd all time. While my bullpen has some weakness, but I believe there a lot more pros than cons to make up for it. In a league like this, I think it's very important to have a great bullpen. Even more important than the bench. With this group of relievers, my starters don't have to worry about going deep into games.
Overall: Overall, I did what I set out to do before this draft started. I have a great offense with average defense. Then I have a great rotation with a very solid bullpen that can go 4 or 5 innings if needed. My team is mainly towards peak/career since I only have 3 guys with 10 seasons or less (Berkman and BJ Ryan on their 10th season so it could be only Chino Smith with a short career). The teams does well in a series since my rotation were good in the postseason, where pitching is more important in a series than through a whole season. My team will get a knock on having some Negro League and Japanese players, but I believe the guys I drafted were top tier and would've been able to play in MLB if they had the chance.
Stadium: I went with Seals Stadium because it is more of a neutral/pitching park. I think it will fit with my team very nicely. It'll give a little boost to my pitching while my offense pretty much stays the same.
Here's the link to the discussion page:
http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=78812
Here's the link to the draft page:
http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=78951
Team Name:
Earl Park Squirrels
Stadium: Seals Stadium
Dimensions:
LF: 365
LC: 375
LCF( just left of dead center): 404
CF: 410
RCF (just right of dead center in the corner): 415
RC (just right of the 415 mark where the seats jutted out): 397
RF: 355
backstop: 55.42 ft.
fence height:
LF: 15 ft. (5 ft. concrete below 10 ft. wire)
CF: 30.5 ft.
RF: 16 ft. (5 ft. concrete below 11 ft. wire)
Manager:
M: Earl Weaver
Starters:
C: SH- Biz Mackey
1B: RH- Frank Thomas
2B: LH- Chino Smith
SS: RH- Ernie Banks
3B: RH- Dick Allen
LF: LH- Mel Ott
CF: RH- Willie Mays
RF: LH- Oscar Charleston
DH: LH- Ted Williams
Bench:
Position/Name/AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS+
BN: 1B/OF SH- Lance Berkman .304/.414/.566/149
BN: IF SH- George Davis .295/.361/.405/121
BN: C RH- Gabby Hartnett .297/.370/.489/126
BN: OF SH- Tim Raines .294/.385/.425/123
BN: PH RH- Smokey Joe Williams (If I really needed a PH here and there due to long games or a couple people got injured)
Starting Rotation: (career ERA+)
SP: LH- Randy Johnson 137
SP: RH- Smokey Joe Williams
SP: LH- Carl Hubbell 130
SP: RH- Kazuhisa Inao
SP: LH- Whitey Ford 133
Relief:
(both of my LRs are actually SPs that are converted to RPs, they will come in and pitch as much as needed or if they had to start every now and then)
LR: RH- Kevin Brown 127
LR: RH- Fergie Jenkins 115
RP: LH- Jesse Orosco 125 basically my lefty inning eater out of the pen...
RP: LH- B.J. Ryan 137 my lefty specialist also pitches an inning here and there to relieve Orosco from a heavy workload
RP: RH- Armando Benitez 139
RP: RH- Dan Quisenberry 146
CL: RH- Trevor Hoffman 144
Lineup: (career AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS+)
1. LH- Chino Smith
2. SH- Biz Mackey
3. LH- Ted Williams .344/.482/.634/191
4. RH- Frank Thomas .302/.420/.558/157
5. LH- Oscar Charleston
6. RH- Willie Mays .302/.384/.557/156
7. LH- Mel Ott .304/.414/.533/155
8. RH- Dick Allen .292/.378/.534/156
9. RH- Ernie Banks .274/.330/.500/122
Analysis:
My Analysis(before the draft): Basically what I was going for was a great offense with a great OBP overall and a very solid pitching staff with 2 Aces along with it. I believe I did just that.
Offense: My offense basically does have sluggers from 1-9. Chino Smith is my leadoff hitter because he is the best hitter in my lineup AVG-wise. He was basically a LH Hornsby. Yes, he did a short career and it was all peak, but you could argue it was one of the best ever even with an adjustment. Biz Mackey is there more for his defense, but he was solid offensively. He's 2nd in my lineup cuz I really didn't know where else to put him. Ted Williams at the 3 spot... No need to say why. Same with Frank Thomas at cleanup. My next 2 players in Charleston and Mays are basically the same so they can flip-flop but I'm going with the RH/LH pattern. Mel Ott is a great hitter with a very good OBP that will drive in a lot of runs and be on base for my pure sluggers. Dick Allen is on my team mainly for his peak, which I consider the best ever at 3B. Ernie Banks is a pretty good guy at the 9 spot. I got him basically because the best available SS left and his defense was very good when he was at SS. Overall, I think it is great and top 3 easily IMO if when you consider how good my team does in OBP compare to other teams (only Banks is below .378 career in my lineup).
Defense: I think my team is probably average or maybe barely above average. Mackey is a top tier defensive C and a great leader/teacher to others. Banks was great while he was a SS. Both Charleston and Mays are top notch CFers with Ott as being one of the best defensive RFers as well. I think I have the best defensive OFs in this league. Smith at 2B is the only position I'm unsure of, but with his offense... I can afford having him there. Thomas and Allen are my black holes on defense, but make up for it on offense. Overall, I think I'm decent defensively. I don't know where I am compared to the other teams here.
Baserunning: I have some station to station runners with Mackey, Thomas, and Williams. Allen, Banks, Ott, and Smith had some speed. Charleston and Mays are my stealers on this team. While this team won't steal a lot of bases or very fast overall, they make up for it with hitting a lot of extra base hits.
Bench: My bench is more towards filling roles on my team than getting the best player available. Berkman will be my slugger off the bench and pinch hitter with a very good eye at the plate. He also can play the corner OFs with mainly being a 1B. George Davis is basically my defensive replacement at 2B/SS/3B where he is above average at all 3 position which is really hard to find and also a pinch runner as well. Gabby Hartnett is a very good offensive C with good D to go with it. Tim Raines is a guy I picked based on who was a better fit or need on my team. He will be my pinch runner since he has a great SB% and pinch hitter since he got a very good eye and will be a leadoff hitter in my lineup when he starts in the OFs. Berkman, Davis, and Raines are all switch hitter so that's a big advantage to me when other teams put in their specialist relievers.
Pitching: I have 2 Aces on my team with 3 great #3 starters to fill out my rotation. Randy Johnson is who I consider the best lefty ever, but I go back and forth between him and Grove sometimes so he's 2nd best at worst. Smokey Joe Williams is considered the best negro league pitcher ever over Paige. He is definately top 10 material and maybe top 5 even. Smokey Joe was also a good hitter so he can even pitch hit for me if I needed it. Even my great grandpa rated Williams over Walter Johnson in his all time list so I couldn't pass him up. My next three guys are all very good and solid. Hubbell, who is my 2nd lefty in the rotation, has that great screwball and anybody who strikes out Ruth, Gehrig, Foxx in a row gets a place on my rotation. He has a very good peak as well. Whitey Ford also has a good peak like Hubbell, but he has the most experience pitching in the big games and does quite well as his postseason numbers show. Inao is a question mark on my pitching staff. He does get a knock for pitching in the Japanese League. From what I've read and look at his stats, he seems like Sandy Koufax but with a longer peak. He has a very good postseason experience like Ford in the Japan Series. I also got him because he pitched very well against Oh, Nomura, and Nagashima in his career. Overall I think my rotation stack up very well against anybody. I cover all 3 areas of the poll we're doing: a series, prime/best years, and career.
Bullpen: My bullpen doesn't have any superstar name. I believe it is very VERY solid with enough innings to go around. The closest one to a superstar name is my closer Trevor Hoffman, who is really underrated IMO. I have B.J. Ryan to be like a lefty specialist as he's nasty against them (.172/.273/.260 line), but he is the only guy I have with a short career or no decline years. Orosco is a great consistent lefty reliever to have on a team. Quisenberry is a great control reliever with a long peak (9 years) that a lot of relievers don't have with a lot of IP on top of that. Benitez is more of my Ks reliever. He has great K/9 with a couple of great years. Pretty much all of these guys can close, but Hoffman will be the main closer. Now I have two SP that will be converted to spot starters/long relievers. Kevin Brown is a guy I picked solely on his great peak. People will knock him down a little for being mentioned in the Mitchell Report, but as a long reliever he'll work and we don't know the extent of how long he was using. Fergie Jenkins was a personal favorite of mine. While he doesn't have a great peak like the others, he was very consistent. I also got him for his WHIP and his K:BB, but the only knock on him was all his runs given up were like HRs as he is 2nd all time. While my bullpen has some weakness, but I believe there a lot more pros than cons to make up for it. In a league like this, I think it's very important to have a great bullpen. Even more important than the bench. With this group of relievers, my starters don't have to worry about going deep into games.
Overall: Overall, I did what I set out to do before this draft started. I have a great offense with average defense. Then I have a great rotation with a very solid bullpen that can go 4 or 5 innings if needed. My team is mainly towards peak/career since I only have 3 guys with 10 seasons or less (Berkman and BJ Ryan on their 10th season so it could be only Chino Smith with a short career). The teams does well in a series since my rotation were good in the postseason, where pitching is more important in a series than through a whole season. My team will get a knock on having some Negro League and Japanese players, but I believe the guys I drafted were top tier and would've been able to play in MLB if they had the chance.
Stadium: I went with Seals Stadium because it is more of a neutral/pitching park. I think it will fit with my team very nicely. It'll give a little boost to my pitching while my offense pretty much stays the same.