1969 Free Agent Auction

[leecemark]

--The free agent auction will commence at 8PM EST this Friday, June 13th. 10 players will be auctioned off live as Premium Free Agents. Those players will be auctioned in the following order.
1) Cleon Jones HTD 7.25 (overbid is 8M)
2) Don Buford
3) Rusty Staub
4) Rico Petrocelli HTD 30M (overbid is 33M)
5) Willie Horton
6) Tommy John
7) Jimmy Wynn
8) Mickey Lolich
9) Pete Rose
10) Dick Allen
--The Badgers preserved their HTD rights on Cleon Jones, as did the Gamblers on Rico Petrocelli. Ed and Kyle you need to get that bid in sometime before the auction gets started.
--All other unsigned players will go on the block immediately after the conclusion of the PFA. Bidding in this secondary auction will be open until Tuesday, June 17th at 9PM EST. During the last hour of bidding you may only bid on one player per post. All bids are in increments of 250K (or divisable by 250K).
--The attached files show all unsigned players and pitchers. These files include rookies so expect some of them to be drafted prior to the auction. I'll post updated files shortly after the PFA.
--The final phase of free agency will be an open signing period which begins immediately after the close of the secondary auction. Any team which has not managed to get 40 players under contract may sign any remaining unsigned players at minimum wage to fill their roster. All teams must have 40 players at 100 million dollars or less by midnight EST Thursday, June 19th. Any team short of 40 players at that point will be penalized 250K in cap space per open spot. Teams over 40 must cut down to 40 by the same deadline. You would still be responsible for the salary of players cut to achieve this.
--One final note. The penalties for bidding over the cap are substantial. Please make sure you don't have bids out exceeding your available cap space at any point in the bidding. Teams must post their roster size and committed salaries before they may submit bids in the auction (for example the Knights are currently at 30 players/80M. My maximum bid would be 17.75M on a player - with 2.25M reserved for 9 minimum wage players to round out the roster).

[buppers]

Badgers will exercise their HTD option on Cleon Jones and offer him $ 7.250 million dollars.
As of the 4th round of the draft, covering expansion, trades and draft picks the Badgers are sitting at 27 players signed for 1969 at total of $ 78.000 million.

Roster page is updated.

Ed

[mac195]

Did I need to declare HTD rights by some deadline that has already passed? If not, the Hard Cider offer Dick Allen $25 million per year.

[leecemark]

--To preserve the HTD this year you had to put prospective FA's on your protected list. The only two owners who did that were Ed with Cleon Jones and Kyle with Rico Petrocelli.

[Sockeye]

The Angels are now sitting at 23 players with a salary of 65.50

[BlueBlood]

The Brawlers who were bored and did one of the dumbest draft pick trades in CKL history have now recovered from the experience and have their heads back in the game. We still wholeheartedly regret losing our third pick from 1970, surely to be 33rd overall, a cheap player with a few great seasons.

Our salary currently sits at a meager $14 million with 22 players. That leaves 86 million for prime free agent cuts. Naturally, we expect to be here on Friday as leaving a list of desired Free Agents and our potential premium prices could lead to us not getting any players, receiving too many expensive players or paying prices far more expensive than we would have had we been around.

[catcher24]

1) Cleon Jones HTD 7.25 (overbid is 8M)

As a point of interest, the HTD goes up to 20% next season. If Ed did the same thing next season, the over bid on Jones would be 8.75M, so the extra 10% will add up - especially on those very high end bids!

[catcher24]

The Brawlers who were bored and did one of the dumbest draft pick trades in CKL history have now recovered from the experience and have their heads back in the game. We still wholeheartedly regret losing our third pick from 1970, surely to be 33rd overall, a cheap player with a few great seasons.

Our salary currently sits at a meager $14 million with 22 players. That leaves 86 million for prime free agent cuts. Naturally, we expect to be here on Friday as leaving a list of desired Free Agents and our potential premium prices could lead to us not getting any players, receiving too many expensive players or paying prices far more expensive than we would have had we been around.

Holy Cow! (to quote a famous shortstop/broadcaster). You've got 86M to obtain 18 players??!! You're gonna put the hurt on a few other owners in both the PFA and the FA auctions.

[catcher24]

The Legends are presently at 82M for 27 players. As I don't expect to get another rookie draft pick, I expect that will be the figure going into the PFA, and we'll certainly be no match for Blueblood!:hp

Mark, do you anticipate sending out another DB file to the Diamond Mind owners soon after the PFA? I could use one for sure. Thanks!

[Sockeye]

The Brawlers who were bored and did one of the dumbest draft pick trades in CKL history have now recovered from the experience and have their heads back in the game. We still wholeheartedly regret losing our third pick from 1970, surely to be 33rd overall, a cheap player with a few great seasons.

Our salary currently sits at a meager $14 million with 22 players. That leaves 86 million for prime free agent cuts. Naturally, we expect to be here on Friday as leaving a list of desired Free Agents and our potential premium prices could lead to us not getting any players, receiving too many expensive players or paying prices far more expensive than we would have had we been around.

My advice...bid smart! Don't be afraid to go after the players you really want but at the same time don't go overboard. Set a reasonable amount you are willing to pay for each player and stick to it. Certain owners will try to bid you up just for the purpose of making you overspend on a player you really want. When you see a player going for more than he is worth don't be afraid to stick the other owner and let them have em. That is less they have to spend on the next players and the better bargains you'll get. Which in large part is a key aspect to this game.

[jkc32]

My advice...bid smart! Don't be afraid to go after the players you really want but at the same time don't go overboard. Set a reasonable amount you are willing to pay for each player and stick to it. Certain owners will try to bid you up just for the purpose of making you overspend on a player you really want. When you see a player going for more than he is worth don't be afraid to stick the other owner and let them have em. That is less they have to spend on the next players and the better bargains you'll get. Which in large part is a key aspect to this game.

Excellent advice for all the new GMs. Also, have your short list of "must haves" readily available and be prepared for fast paced bidding, especially during the last few minutes of free agency which are very hectic. It's been my experience that a list of 2-4 "must haves" and several "nice to get" players is manageable. If your trying to bid on too many guys at the end of free agency, you'll get confused and lose out on more than you get.

[ElHalo]

Best of luck everybody. I'm gonna be laying down some serious dollars on the position players.

[BlueBlood]

I just love what this game will eventually turn into a few seasons down the road when the established owners start shedding expensive contracts. A $35 million free agent would not surprise me given that there's four more teams bidding and less talent to go around.

[leecemark]

--It may happen, but it would be a bad decision by whoever won the bid. It would be extremely difficult to build a contending team if 35% of your money was invested in a single player.

[Erik Bedard]

Speaking from personal experience, last year I had over a third of my money tied up in three players, all pitchers, one of whom was a reliever, one in the minors, and the third my #4 starter. And I still made the playoffs. So while it's not impossible to win with big contracts, I still wouldn't recommend it. Why? You always need to be able to add that extra FA piece.

I don't have the exact data, but to give an estimation, the Gold Sox are at about 68M for about 28 spots... leaving us with 29M to spend on our two PFA targets (both of whom will be overpaid, if not by us, then by whoever beats us).

[mac195]

The HC have 31 players signed for $67.25 million.

[catcher24]

I just love what this game will eventually turn into a few seasons down the road when the established owners start shedding expensive contracts. A $35 million free agent would not surprise me given that there's four more teams bidding and less talent to go around.

And it has been a great experience being in from the start. Mark has run an excellent league, and it has been a very enjoyable time through the first eight seasons, as well as going through the two expansions. Part of that enjoyment was helping to hammer out the rules and guidelines, but the best part has been getting to know the other owners and interacting with them. And my favorite part is still the off season activities.

--It may happen, but it would be a bad decision by whoever won the bid. It would be extremely difficult to build a contending team if 35% of your money was invested in a single player.

Agree 100%, Mark. The highest I've gone on any free agent was 10.5M for Joe Morgan last off season - a steal, in hind sight. I wouldn't go over 20M for anyone, I don't believe, but that statement could be tested severely when Jenkins and Seaver come up for free agency!:eek:

[catcher24]

Best of luck everybody. I'm gonna be laying down some serious dollars on the position players.

Jim, don't know if you're interested, but you still have a makeup pick coming in the rookie draft (pick #55).

[leecemark]

--I didn't think I'd go over 20M for anyone either, but then did so for Fregosi (22M). He was the last piece in the puzzle for my 67 champion though, so it was worth the pinch in year 2 (and I WAS capped out and unable to bid on anyone last year) and with expansion coming up I was able to get out from under the deal after only 2 seasons.
--I could see doing that again, although it won't be this year - I have less than 20M and 10 players to sign:hp. I could see paying slighlty more for a major star who fit a big need - but only if I get to a place where most of my core are young and cheap players.

[-Kyle-]

Petrocelli HTD BID 30 Million

[leecemark]

Petrocelli HTD BID 30 Million

:eek::cap::bowdown: the opening bid shatters our preevious top salary by 3 million! Petrocelli does have a historically great 69 season, but he is just good in 70 and moves to 3B in year 3 of the deal. This is a serious win now move.
--I do like what you've done with the Gamblers this offseason. Hundley was a nice pickup in a very tough market for catchers. Gentry, Tatum and Nagy are a huge additions to this year's staff for for peanuts. Those cheap solutions will help finance Rico's mega-deal. Going into the offseason I thought the Joes were a huge favorite to win the new division. You have to be at least the co-favorite now.

[Erik Bedard]

I'm just glad Kyle's out of the Johnson Division. I want to repeat!*

*unlikely, due to my lack of a bullpen, #4 starter, impact bat, second baseman, and still being in Mark's division

[jterry619]

What is the process for the FA bids...a free for all come one come all?...or is it by order of drfat picks?...just wondering how we do this...it is probably in the rules but I am sneaking peeks while I am supposedly working today..ha!

[leecemark]

--The premium free agents will be auctioned off one at a time on Friday night. Everybody else will be in a free for all. You've got 4 days to get bids in, but except for big overbids or early commitments to guys not worth more than minimum wage the winning bids will mostly be submitted down the wire on Tuesday night. Bids in the last hour are one player per post and generally come fast and furious. Highest bid before the closing bell wins.

[-Kyle-]

:eek::cap::bowdown: the opening bid shatters our preevious top salary by 3 million! Petrocelli does have a historically great 69 season, but he is just good in 70 and moves to 3B in year 3 of the deal. This is a serious win now move.
--I do like what you've done with the Gamblers this offseason. Hundley was a nice pickup in a very tough market for catchers. Gentry, Tatum and Nagy are a huge additions to this year's staff for for peanuts. Those cheap solutions will help finance Rico's mega-deal. Going into the offseason I thought the Joes were a huge favorite to win the new division. You have to be at least the co-favorite now.
Thanks. This was our original plan, to find a pitcher through the draft and then pay big on Petrocelli and maybe another decent bat as a backup. Hopefully Gentry or Nagy work out. Shoeless Joe's pitching is still far ahead of mine. With a little luck perhaps we can make it into the playoffs through the wild card - and then who knows :).

69 Will be our big push, 70 will be a half attempt (may fire sale during season) and 71 is full blown rebuilding. Hopefully we can compete again by 74, but its not that likely.

[Windy City Fan]

Currently the Thunder payroll stands at 52.75 Million with 26 players under contract. I've got over 40 million to play with in the free agent market.

[mac195]

The HC have 31 players signed for $67.25 million.

Make that 32 and $67.5 million.

[jkc32]

Shoeless is at 30 players for $85M.

[Erik Bedard]

29 at 67.75M (will change after the draft)

[J W]

As of now, we're at 31 players and $94.75 mil. Have fun Friday guys. :cap:

[Hack_Miller]

The Wranglers are at 29 players and at 28.25M in salary.

[catcher24]

With the Legends having made one final pick in the rookie draft, we will be entering the free agent auctions at 82.25M for 28 players.

[catcher24]

Looking at the PFAs, I can see some huge salaries coming up. I predict Dick Allen will break the record set by Willie Stargell (although the record now is Rico's 30M offer), and will likely break 30M. Pete Rose and Mickey Lolich are 20M+ for sure, and Jummy Wynn will push that, although his one poor season will hurt him.Rusty Staub, Don Buford, Willie Horton, Tommy John will all go at least 15M, IMHO. Cleon Jones might actually get the smallest contract of this group of players.

[leecemark]

--The Knights are at 80.50M for 32 players. I'll be bidding on a couple players Friday and might even get one if prices turn out to be somewhat reasonable. Of course, expecting reasonable prices in this year's market probably isn't reasonable:).

[Erik Bedard]

Looking at the PFAs, I can see some huge salaries coming up. I predict Dick Allen will break the record set by Willie Stargell (although the record now is Rico's 30M offer), and will likely break 30M. Pete Rose and Mickey Lolich are 20M+ for sure, and Jummy Wynn will push that, although his one poor season will hurt him.Rusty Staub, Don Buford, Willie Horton, Tommy John will all go at least 15M, IMHO. Cleon Jones might actually get the smallest contract of this group of players.

Didn't Gaylord Perry get 27.5M last year? IIRC, Stargell's was "only" about 24.

I don't see any way Rose gets in the top three. What exactly sets him apart from all the other huge bats?

The way I'm seeing it, I can come away with at least one of the bats (probably one of the latter ones, Horton, Jones or Buford, perhaps Rose) or go all out and overpay Lolich or John. Allen, Wynn, and Staub will be out of my league, and Rico already is. I've got two targets in particular for the latter FA portion, plus the remnants of my way-too-extensive draft list.

[jkc32]

Looking at the PFAs, I can see some huge salaries coming up. I predict Dick Allen will break the record set by Willie Stargell (although the record now is Rico's 30M offer), and will likely break 30M. Pete Rose and Mickey Lolich are 20M+ for sure, and Jummy Wynn will push that, although his one poor season will hurt him.Rusty Staub, Don Buford, Willie Horton, Tommy John will all go at least 15M, IMHO. Cleon Jones might actually get the smallest contract of this group of players.

You may be right. It's definately an opportunity for the expansion teams to get some outstanding talent for the future...assuming they are willing to part with the $$$. I'll mostly be a spectator this year so it will be fun to sit back and watch which GMs are willing to spend big $$$ and for whom.

[catcher24]

I've got two targets in particular for the latter FA portion, plus the remnants of my way-too-extensive draft list.

And I'll bet one of them is a guy I'm looking at as well - and I suspect a lot of other owners are, too.

Incidentally, Mark, you're running the auction's final hour from 9 until 10PM on Tuesday? I thought we usually ran it from 8 to 9, but I'm probably wrong about that.

[leecemark]

--There wasn't a time listed in the offseason thread for the closing of the auction. You may well be right about the time in past offseasons. Is 10PM a problem for you (or anyone else)? My schedule is pretty flexible next week.

[Erik Bedard]

I think I know who you're talking about, Lew. He'll be overpaid for sure, considering what they'll be paying for after this year.

[leecemark]

--There is definately one very interesting player in the secondary market (well several, but one who presents a unique dilemma). Huge plus for someone this year, but if you pay him anything like what he is worth you get a pretty heavy burden against your cap for next year.
--For those participating in this auction for the first time it is important to know that there are minimum and maximum years associated with bid size. Players signed for less than 5M may be signed for a minimum of one season and a maximum of three. 5.0-7.75M requires a 2-4 year deal. A bid of 8.0 or more requires a minimum 3 year (5 year max) deal. So if there is a player who is worth 20M to you this year, but nothing going forward the season will would actually cost you 40M. 20M this year and 20M next year to buy out of it (buy outs are half the remaining value of the deal - all paid in the buy out season).

[mac195]

Well, this is definately the best free agent crop yet - great top-end talent, and a long list of decent role players. There is also far more money floating around than we've ever seen before, so things should be interesting.

[buppers]

--There wasn't a time listed in the offseason thread for the closing of the auction. You may well be right about the time in past offseasons. Is 10PM a problem for you (or anyone else)? My schedule is pretty flexible next week.

I leave for work at about 9PM. Except for Friday and Sunday. So I request either an end time of 9PM or end day of Fri or Sun.

Could go in late if this is not convenient for others

[leecemark]

--We can close it at 9 instead of 10, unless we have some west coast people who won't be home from work. Anyone have an issue with a 9PM EST closing?

[catcher24]

Actually, the 9 PM time works better for me as well, although it's certainly not as much a problem for me as it would be for Ed. But my preference would be a 9 PM closing as well (with single bids only after 8 PM).

[catcher24]

With the small amount of cap space I have for the number of players I need, it certainly appears that my money will all go into the secondary auction. No way I can swing one of the big boys - but some of the secondary players are nearly as good, and I'd go so far as to say I've seen at least two who I'd take in a second over Cleon Jones. But Mac is right - it should all be VERY interesting!:cap:

[buppers]

I don't want 15 other people changing just for me. It would be nice but I can always go into work an hour late :dance

[Erik Bedard]

10 works better for me, but I have no problem with 9.

[-Kyle-]

I have a math tutor at 7:30 today (what a drag - on a friday!!!) so I doubt I will make it for the PFA. My finals end on tuesday, so I should be alright for the regular auction.

[jkc32]

--We can close it at 9 instead of 10, unless we have some west coast people who won't be home from work. Anyone have an issue with a 9PM EST closing?
9PM EST works great for me as well.

[jterry619]

9 Eastern is fine with me

[Sockeye]

Either time works for me

[BlueBlood]

I don't care because I made a ridiculously awful draft pick trade and I quit.

Wait, I'm back. The CKL is like crack. Any time is fine. I don't know if I'll be home or not or whatever but I could leave a bid list with someone for a few players of importance.

Which reminds me, I should probably make one today for tonight's auction, just in case.

[Sockeye]

I don't care because I made a ridiculously awful draft pick trade and I quit.

Wait, I'm back. The CKL is like crack. Any time is fine. I don't know if I'll be home or not or whatever but I could leave a bid list with someone for a few players of importance.

Which reminds me, I should probably make one today for tonight's auction, just in case.

Check your PM box please.

[BlueBlood]

I read it hours ago and was offended/affronted. I just sent you a reply though for consideration's sake.

[leecemark]

--Okay it looks like the 9PM EST close on Tuesday is the preference for the secondary auction. About 35 minutes to go til the PFA kicks off.

[Windy City Fan]

I'm ready and waiting.

[BlueBlood]

I've fully figured out my gameplan for all future rookie drafts/free agent auctions. :highfive:

I really hope those trying to drive up prices get stuck oh-so-horribly. :cap:

[Erik Bedard]

8:01 by my clock, 7:47 according to BBF (which is the time we go by, for all new owners).

[leecemark]

--You can always be a little late for league functions because the BBF clock is chronically slow. I'm going to go ahead and put Cleon Jones on the block. The Badgers have a HTD bid of 7.25 on Jones. If anyone else wants to bid the opening bid would be 8.0M (and a 3 year commitment). Unless there is active bidding when the BBF clock reaches the top of the hour he stays a Badger and we move on to Don Buford.

[BlueBlood]

Might as well post it here. My sixth rounder in the current rookie draft isn't much lower on the ladder than the fifth rounders of some teams here in 1970. You can snag the player of your choice before the rookie draft ends in 15 minutes if you give me your 1970 fifth rounder. First to post in this thread accepting this deal gets such a trade.

I bid 8.0 million for Cleon Jones.

[Erik Bedard]

I accept (if it's legal, Mark, care to arbite?)

[BlueBlood]

I accept .

I confirm the deal. Go make your pick in the rookie draft thread.

[jkc32]

I really hope those trying to drive up prices get stuck oh-so-horribly. :cap:

I doubt you'll see much intended price driving...those that want players will bid accordingly. There will be a little jockeying, but you won't see anyone bid $20M just to drive up the price (IMO), although I expect to see at least 3 players bid over $20M.

[leecemark]

I accept (if it's legal, Mark, care to arbite?)


--Go ahead and get the pick in before time runs out.

[Windy City Fan]

8.5 for Jones.

[BlueBlood]

8.75 for Jones.

[Erik Bedard]

Pick is made. Not a great one, but it's worth a fifth-round pick to have a little tiny bit of peace of mind.

[J W]

As a courtesy, Dick Williams shows up for the PFA, drunk, and sits in the corner by the punch bowl.

[Windy City Fan]

A cool 9 million for Cleon Jones.

[Erik Bedard]

I've done that before -- only not the drunk part, due to age and personal beliefs.

[BlueBlood]

For the record, if we have under 40 players, do we just pay $250 K for the open slots? Obviously, it wouldn't be hard to fill up our teams with random names instead of leaving the slots open.

[BlueBlood]

9.25 million for Jones.

[Erik Bedard]

Yes, you have to pay .25M for open slots.

[Windy City Fan]

9.5 it is. Mr. Jones is certainly enjoying this.

[leecemark]

--Kind of thought the Badgers would keep Jones rather than somebody going 3 years. Not a good sign for the rest of the bidding. Buyer beware!

[mac195]

Jones - 10 million

[BlueBlood]

Yes, you have to pay .25M for open slots.

I'll fill those with historical Dodgers of elite crappiness.

Jones = 10.25 million from me

[Erik Bedard]

--Kind of thought the Badgers would keep Jones rather than somebody going 3 years. Not a good sign for the rest of the bidding. Buyer beware!

I'd certainly keep Jones for three years. The second one's not great, but the third one's very good.

[catcher24]

I'm here and will spend most of my time in the corner with JW's people. If Jones is already over 9M, there isn't anyone else who will go for less than 14M or so!:hp

[mac195]

Jones - 11 million

[BlueBlood]

I'd certainly keep Jones for three years. The second one's not great, but the third one's very good.

Once again, an expansion team advantage. I can take any crappy seasons in 69/70, it's all about how much I'm paying from 71-onward.

11.25 million

[Erik Bedard]

That 1969 is anything but crappy.

[BlueBlood]

That 1969 is anything but crappy.

I never said it was. But I'd gladly pay egregious sums for players with an OPS+ of 7 in the next two seasons if they become a monster after....

...which really means the other FA auction is where the established owners will get very screwed.

[mac195]

Jones - 11.75.

[BlueBlood]

Jones' new number is 12.

Mac, I'll make a deal with you. If you let me have him for 12 milion, I'll say thanks.

[mac195]

12.25...............

[leecemark]

--The Jones Sweepstakes appears to be a 2 man race. Let me know when one of you throws in the towel.

[BlueBlood]

12.5...........

[mac195]

He's yours, Blueblood.

[BlueBlood]

Sweet. "Thanks" ;)

[leecemark]

Any later comers speak now or he's a Brawler

[Erik Bedard]

That's actually a pretty reasonable price for Jones.

[Windy City Fan]

13 million

[leecemark]

--This is going to be a long auction....

[BlueBlood]

--This is going to be a long auction....

Tell me about it!

13.25.....

[catcher24]

That's actually a pretty reasonable price for Jones.

You really think so, Dan? I think it's a bit high, but obviously I'm wrong since somebody paid it. And my prediction now is that no one else goes for less than 15M, because they're all better than Jones IMHO.

[Windy City Fan]

13.5, top that!

[jkc32]

You really think so, Dan? I think it's a bit high, but obviously I'm wrong since somebody paid it. And my prediction now is that no one else goes for less than 15M, because they're all better than Jones IMHO.

I agree on all counts but what do I know...I bid over $20M for a guy who plays zero defense!

[BlueBlood]

You really think so, Dan? I think it's a bit high, but obviously I'm wrong since somebody paid it. And my prediction now is that no one else goes for less than 15M, because they're all better than Jones IMHO.

It's reasonable given the increased market. Premium free agents are more expensive thanks to the expansion teams. Expansion only increases the amount of weak talent playing the game, not the inverse.

[BlueBlood]

WCF, I throw in the towel.

Nah, I'll keep bidding. Add .25M to that, it's now 13.75.

Had a change of heart given how expensive the market could end up being.

[leecemark]

--last chance for Cleon Jones fans.....

[Erik Bedard]

You really think so, Dan? I think it's a bit high, but obviously I'm wrong since somebody paid it. And my prediction now is that no one else goes for less than 15M, because they're all better than Jones IMHO.

12.5 is a pretty fair price for him IMO. It's about what I would have paid had I had the cap room. But then, I'm notorious for overpaying (Jim Perry and Brooks Robinson thank me for it, as well as lots of guys I didn't even sign).

[leecemark]

--I'm pretty sure the Knights will get shutout tonight

[jkc32]

WCF, I throw in the towel.

Nah, I'll keep bidding. Add .25M to that, it's now 13.75.

Had a change of heart given how expensive the market could end up being.

That's the spirit.:eek:

[leecemark]

--Please no editting of posts during the bidding. If you have a change of heart, make it a new post. Also bids may not be withdrawn once posted.

[BlueBlood]

--Jones to the Thunder for 13.5M. Next up Don Buford.

I kept bidding! On the previous page. My bad, I kept refreshing page four, but I did make the change before you gave them to the Thunder.

[mac195]

Buford..... $13 million

[Windy City Fan]

So wait, do I have Jones or not?

[leecemark]

--Apparnetly the bidding is still open on Jones.

[BlueBlood]

I did put in my bid before it closed on him, hence the quoted response, etc....it should be up to 13.75 million now from me.

We could finish this while doing Buford so my mistake doesn't slow everything down or WCF and I could finish it via PM. I bid 13.5 million on Buford.

[buppers]

The post clearly said I throw in the towel.

[Windy City Fan]

14 on Jones then.

[mac195]

We've already spent 40 minutes bidding on Jones...

[BlueBlood]

14.25 million on Jones. Sorry guys, he has the 9th best OPS+ in 71 when my pitching is top-notch.

[leecemark]

I kept bidding! On the previous page. My bad, I kept refreshing page four, but I did make the change before you gave them to the Thunder.


--The no editting was directed at that post. I'll allow it this once, but everyone please leave any posts where bids (or dropping out of bidding) are made alone.

[Sockeye]

I was 30 minutes late and we are still on the Jones? WOW

[buppers]

Also, if you post you're out of bidding, please stick to it

[Erik Bedard]

I could have Buford locked up by now if everybody didn't keep changing their minds.

[Windy City Fan]

This sucks, I had him at 13.5, now I'm at 14.5 and climbing.

[leecemark]

I was 30 minutes late and we are still on the Jones? WOW


--Its your lucky day.....or so it seems before the bidding on Allen wraps up in time for breakfast.

[BlueBlood]

Frankly, I'm just not surprised it has turned out like this. It'll be different once the expansion teams lock up a player each.

[leecemark]

14.5 going once...

[Erik Bedard]

My parents aren't going to be thrilled...

[BlueBlood]

14.75 indeed.

[leecemark]

going twice......

[mac195]

Frankly, I'm just not surprised it has turned out like this. It'll be different once the expansion teams lock up a player each.
Are you done bidding? If so, please say so.

[BlueBlood]

I just bid 14.75....other post was made while Thunder was putting in their bid.

[leecemark]

--Since the bidding is obviously going to be sky high would anyone object to shifting the increments to 500K for the rest of the evening?

[mac195]

--Since the bidding is obviously going to be sky high would anyone object to shifting the increments to 500K for the rest of the evening?

No objection.

[Windy City Fan]

I just bid 14.75....other post was made while Thunder was putting in their bid.

I yield. He's yours. I felt like I was overpaying at 13.5, but 15 million for Jones would be crazy.

[BlueBlood]

--Since the bidding is obviously going to be sky high would anyone object to shifting the increments to 500K for the rest of the evening?

I would. I think it should be .25 for close cases like this. I'm sure people will rightfully jump up in increments of three million or whatever for key players but Cleon Jones does have a wall for me and WCF.

[leecemark]

--Buford on the board......

[buppers]

Frankly, I'm just not surprised it has turned out like this. It'll be different once the expansion teams lock up a player each.

It would also be different if people just made their bids

[BlueBlood]

15 million for Buford.

[Sockeye]

I'm good with 500K increments

[-Kyle-]

(BTW Blueblood...if you try to up the bid on Petrocelli, you may in for a nasty surprise :D)

[Erik Bedard]

15.5M for Buford.

[BlueBlood]

Never mind.

Yeah, it was a nice try. Someone had already bid 13 million on him, hence why I just put in 15 million.

[mac195]

pass on Buford

[Erik Bedard]

Yeah, it was a nice try. Someone had already bid 13 million on him, hence why I just put in 15 million.

Who bid 13M?

[BlueBlood]

I'll go Buford for 15.75.

[leecemark]

pass on Buford


--I think I'll be passing on everyone. Now I'm afraid of the prices in the secondary market.

[BlueBlood]

Who bid 13M?

It was when we thought the Jones bidding was over.

[Windy City Fan]

Who bid 13M?

Hard Cider bit 13 million back when we thought Cleon Jones 1.25 million dollars poorer.

[mac195]

I'll go Buford for 15.75.

Why not 500K increments?

[Erik Bedard]

16.5M for Buford.

[BlueBlood]

Why not 500K increments?

Once again, this player has a wall. Fretting over the small details is worth it because I see them as worth not much more than the current bidding.

[leecemark]

--I think we have a majority in favor of 500K for tonight. We'll revert to 250K for the secondary auction.

[-Kyle-]

Yeah, it was a nice try. Someone had already bid 13 million on him, hence why I just put in 15 million.

Read the new edited post ;)

[BlueBlood]

I'll do 16.75 on Buford. For the record, he's obviously a 3 year and so is Cleon Jones for me. I can make a run in '71 and then start over with a ton of cash in '72.

[BlueBlood]

Read the new edited post ;)

I did, and believe me, it wasn't my intent to try that sorta crap. Luckily, I haven't seen anyone else doing it tonight.

[leecemark]

--It will be 17.0 if you want to keep bidding. 500K is in effect.

[Erik Bedard]

I'd recommend you stop bidding.

[BlueBlood]

--It will be 17.0 if you want to keep bidding. 500K is in effect.

Bleh. I'll bite though. 17.0 it is.

[Erik Bedard]

17.5 for Buford.

[BlueBlood]

I can go 18.

For those wondering, there's like three (or four?) players I'll be bidding on tonight and for obvious reasons.

[Erik Bedard]

But will you, that's the 18 million dollar question. ;)

[BlueBlood]

But will you, that's the question. ;)

Ok, I meant to say I can and will!!!!!

18 million for Buford!!!!

[-Kyle-]

I am going crazy...I read an imaginary EB post.

[leecemark]

18 going once

[leecemark]

going twice

[Erik Bedard]

Take him. I still have no second baseman, but I can make do.

[leecemark]

Sold to the Brawlers for 18m

[Erik Bedard]

I am going crazy...I read an imaginary EB post.

I make lots of those. :dance

Actually, I edited it.

[leecemark]

Next up Rusty Staub

[Windy City Fan]

21 Million

[mac195]

Staub $15M

[-Kyle-]

10 Million

Ouch, lol nvm.

[Erik Bedard]

21 Million

Well then.

[Erik Bedard]

Was BBF just broken for anyone else?

[-Kyle-]

Yeh. Me too.

[Windy City Fan]

Yeah. Just got back to the site now.

[leecemark]

--Sorry, lost my connection for a bit. Last chance for any other Staub fans.

[Sockeye]

Was BBF just broken for anyone else?

Yep, It went down for about 5 minutes

[Erik Bedard]

I thought my internet was going crazy. Which would suck because it just got fixed Tuesday.

[mac195]

Did anyonw else just get a "database error" page after hitting refresh? I was blocked for about 2-3 minutes.

[leecemark]

--Okay I guess we all lost our connection:confused:.

[BlueBlood]

I was blocked as well and thought it was my IP being banned for posting so much tonight. :rofl:

Wow, Staub is up to 21 million. Guess I wasn't wrong about the price gouging tonight.

[mac195]

I was blocked as well and thought it was my IP being banned for posting so much tonight. :rofl:

We should be so lucky. ;)

[Erik Bedard]

You've obviously never been banned before. That's not what happens at all.

[leecemark]

--Staub to Thunder for 21M. Petrocelli next up. Gamblers have a HTD bid of 30M. 33M to anybody else who wants in.

[-Kyle-]

Hehe... :)

[leecemark]

--Last call.................

[BlueBlood]

33M to anybody else who wants in.

I'd pay $15 million to not have to pay that.

[mac195]

33M to anybody else who wants in.
Wel... no. I'll pass.

[leecemark]

--Rico stays home. Willie Horton next up.

[Erik Bedard]

I'm counting my Mark Belangers, hold on.



No thanks, I don't need Rico just yet.

[BlueBlood]

5 million for Horton.

[mac195]

Horton 6M.....

[BlueBlood]

Horton for 7M

[-Kyle-]

whoops too low

[leecemark]

--I'll play before it gets out of control - 7M

[leecemark]

Okay 7.5.....

[BlueBlood]

Horton for 9M

[leecemark]

00Okay I guess I won't get a legit bid in

[catcher24]

--I'll play before it gets out of control - 7M

Too late, Mark, it's already out of control. I was off for a while due to unexpected company and then the site going out for a bit, but it didn't matter because everyone is out of my price range tonight! I'm with Mark, and I'm now concerned about the secondary auction!:hp:eek:

[mac195]

pass.......

[-Kyle-]

pass as well

[Erik Bedard]

I'm not. I'll either get my top target, or I'll have plenty left for the top non-premium guys.

[leecemark]

9m going once...

[BlueBlood]

If I snag Horton, looks like my '71 outfield is set in stone.

[Sockeye]

Too late, Mark, it's already out of control. I was off for a while due to unexpected company and then the site going out for a bit, but it didn't matter because everyone is out of my price range tonight! I'm with Mark, and I'm now concerned about the secondary auction!:hp:eek:

The higher bids tonight means the less money they have to spend on the secondary auction! Keep biddin boys!!!!!!

[leecemark]

going twice

[leecemark]

Horton is the third new Brawler tonight

[leecemark]

--Lets see what pitching is worth - next up Tommy John

[-Kyle-]

I am gone til midnight for a quick jam so - not gonna be on for the rest of the night. I am not going to get another PFA anyways so cya. :D

[buppers]

8.0 mil....

[leecemark]

Wranglers 10M

[buppers]

11.0 million

[leecemark]

Wranglers 12.0

[buppers]

Badgers done

[leecemark]

12 going once.............

[catcher24]

Legends pass on John.

[leecemark]

going twice - a relative bargain!

[BlueBlood]

I expected 20.0M for John. Quite a shock.

[Sockeye]

The Angels pass on John

[leecemark]

--Sold to the Wrangers

[Erik Bedard]

Not spending 12M on guys with 1.3+ WHIPs.

[BlueBlood]

John would be totally worth it if I could unload him in 1970.

[leecemark]

--Next up Jimmy Wynn

[Windy City Fan]

7.75 for wynn

[catcher24]

10M for Wynn

[Erik Bedard]

8M gladly.

[Windy City Fan]

12 million

[leecemark]

11m................................

[Erik Bedard]

12.5m .

[leecemark]

--Worth more, but I can't pay it

[catcher24]

Ten was as high as I could go on anyone and still make a team this year, so guess I'll watch the rest of the way....

[Windy City Fan]

13 million

[Sockeye]

11m................................

You are a day late and a million short tonight. :rofl:

[Erik Bedard]

13.5 millions!

[mac195]

13.5m............

[mac195]

14m..........

[Windy City Fan]

14 and counting

[Windy City Fan]

15 million then!

[mac195]

15.5m................

[Windy City Fan]

16.0 million dollars

[Erik Bedard]

aaaaaaaand I still have no second baseman or #4 starter, so I'll drop out.

[leecemark]

16 mill going once

[leecemark]

going twice...............

[mac195]

16.0 million dollars
That's a lotta money... 16.5M

[leecemark]

Craig?..............

[leecemark]

--Last chance..................

[Windy City Fan]

I'll throw one more chip in the pot, 17 million.

[leecemark]

And you Mac?

[catcher24]

I was pretty surprised when it looked like Wynn would go for less than Jones!

[mac195]

Ok... 17.5m....

[leecemark]

--Last call....................

[jkc32]

I was pretty surprised when it looked like Wynn would go for less than Jones!

I wish I had the funds to bid on him...he's REALLY good the next 2 seasons.

[Windy City Fan]

I'm out of the race, he's yours.