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Richard
05-28-2008, 08:01 PM
Chicago, Boston, New York, St. Louis, Philadelphia or Los Angeles

Dogdaze
05-28-2008, 08:49 PM
Chicago, Boston, New York, St. Louis, Philadelphia or Los Angeles

Welcome to BBF Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by Best Baseball town.

Do you mean the city that has the most Baseball fans?

If thats what you mean, I'd say all the cities you listed have an abundance of fans that support thier baseball teams.

Richard
05-29-2008, 05:35 AM
The most fans, best attended stadium, most fanatical and where baseball is clearly the most popular game professionally in town.

hellborn
05-29-2008, 05:44 AM
St. Louis.

YankeeFanUK
05-29-2008, 05:58 AM
best attended is Fenway ( its the new Jacobs field trend in Bawston :) ), Busch, Yankee Std, Wrigley & Dodger Std....St Louis, NYC, Boston, LA & Chicago are probably the top Cities for B/Ball ( Philly is more of an Eagles town )

Imgran
05-29-2008, 06:58 AM
Hate to say it as a Sox fan, but the answer is clearly New York City.

redlegsfan21
05-29-2008, 07:04 AM
St. Louis, a bunch of fans who understand the game.

Captain Cold Nose
05-29-2008, 07:40 AM
Detroit is a good baseball town, very knowledgable fans who love their teams history. Right now the Tigers are taking a back seat to a couple other teams who are doing very well, though. But Detroit is still a good baseball city.

It's St. Louis, though.

bleacherbum73
05-29-2008, 08:49 AM
I gotta go with my hometown - St.Louis :applaud:

I've been to many other cities to watch my Cards play: K.C., Chicago (NL & AL) Hou, Atl, Fla, Milw, Pitts, Phila, S.F. Cinn, Det, while great fans in those cities, in my opinion the fans in St.Louis are more passionate and more knowledgable about the game. Having not seen games in Bost. and NY, this may not be a true reflection.

zahavasdad
05-29-2008, 09:17 AM
As a New Yorker

Id say BOSTON, when I have gone to Boston , everyone is wearing Sox stuff, ratings for Sox games are astronomical. I think 70%- 80% of all TV's in New England watch Sox Playoff games.

In NY maybe 50% of NYers are NOT Baseball fans (Fans of other non-baseball activities) but EVERYONE in Boston is a Sox Fan, even the Harvard Professors are Die hard Sox Fans.

BTW this Fake Red Sox Commercial is hillarious if you've never saw it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7OitWQ4OKA&feature=related

Erik Bedard
05-29-2008, 09:46 AM
Of the cities, I've visited, I'd say that Boston and St. Louis are at the top of the list. New York is up there too.

Lafferty Daniel
05-29-2008, 11:24 AM
Los Angeles isn't the best MLB town, but it could be the best actual baseball town based on how many amateurs play year round here and how many professionals come from here.

There's a lot of great Dodger fans, but most of them don't hold a candle to the Cardinals, Red Sox, and New York fans.

bryanspellman
05-29-2008, 11:42 AM
The most fans, best attended stadium, most fanatical and where baseball is clearly the most popular game professionally in town.

Based on this I would say New York!

Most Fans: Check (Yankees AND Mets)
Best Attended Stadium: Check (millions alone at Yankee Stadium)
Most Fanatical: I would say tie with Boston
Most Popular Game In Town: Check. please NYC has 2 football teams, 2 hockey teams and the NBA yet it's always a sell out at Yankee Stadium

So hands down NYC! :applaud:

bluezebra
05-29-2008, 11:53 AM
The Cubs have drawn 1,205,431, in the first 30 home games games this season. That's an average of 40,177 per game, in a stadium with a seating capacity of 41,118. That's 97.7 %.

For a team that hasn't won a World Series since 1908 (100 years), or a pennant since 1945 (63 years).

I doubt if any other team can match that.

And this is not counting the apartment seating across from Wrigley.

Bob

YankeeDJW
05-29-2008, 03:56 PM
I don't think you can pick a single city as the "best" baseball town, but NY, Boston, and LA are probably the cities where the sport is most popular. Then of course, Detroit, Chicago, and St. Louis are up there too.

Then there is the entire state of Florida on the opposite end of the spectrum...

Utility07
05-29-2008, 06:47 PM
The Cubs have drawn 1,205,431, in the first 30 home games games this season. That's an average of 40,177 per game, in a stadium with a seating capacity of 41,118. That's 97.7 %.

For a team that hasn't won a World Series since 1908 (100 years), or a pennant since 1945 (63 years).

I doubt if any other team can match that.

And this is not counting the apartment seating across from Wrigley.

Bob

Most of the people there are not cubs fans. Most of the people there are fans of booze. If not for the carnival atmosphere of the worlds largest outdoor bar, noone would go to cubs games. People dont go for the game, people go for the booze and colleged age girls, who go there for booze.

Williamsburg2599
05-29-2008, 07:00 PM
The most fans, best attended stadium, most fanatical and where baseball is clearly the most popular game professionally in town.

In my very biased opinion, Boston. Always sells out, easily the most popular team, and tons of fanatics.

bluezebra
05-29-2008, 08:37 PM
Based on this I would say New York!

Most Fans: Check (Yankees AND Mets)
Best Attended Stadium: Check (millions alone at Yankee Stadium)
Most Fanatical: I would say tie with Boston
Most Popular Game In Town: Check. please NYC has 2 football teams, 2 hockey teams and the NBA yet it's always a sell out at Yankee Stadium

So hands down NYC! :applaud:

Yankee fan propaganda. Yankee Stadium capacity: 57, 545; 2008 attendance: 1,339,311; avg; 51,512; 89.5%. NOT exactly a full house every game. And over 8% less per game than the Cubs. Mets averaging almost 6,000 under capacity each game. And New York has over TWICE the population of Chicago.

NYC has NO football team. The Giants and Jets play in East Rutherford, New Jersey. The Islanders hockey team plays in Uniondale, which is on Long Island, in Nassau County.

Of course New Yawkers consider everywhere east of the (polluted) Hudson River is New York City.

Bob

bluezebra
05-29-2008, 08:56 PM
Most of the people there are not cubs fans. Most of the people there are fans of booze. If not for the carnival atmosphere of the worlds largest outdoor bar, noone would go to cubs games. People dont go for the game, people go for the booze and colleged age girls, who go there for booze.


There are enough bars in Chicago, and enough college hangouts, where one can get booze and broads, WITHOUT paying for a ticket to Wrigley Field. You can get a lot of both at any bar for what a ticket cost.

You obviously know little about baseball, and NOTHING about Chicago and the Cubs fans.

Bob

KCW
05-29-2008, 10:57 PM
You can't base it on attendance. It is a lot easier for teams in big cities like New York, Chicago, and LA to draw big crowds than smaller markets like Tampa Bay, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, etc. simply because they have a larger population to draw from.

keystone
05-30-2008, 12:03 AM
Well, I think we can rule out Miami... :D

Based on Richard's criteria, the best baseball town has to be a town in which baseball is the primary sport. That makes NYC an iffy choice, IMHO. Aren't they football crazy, too? What about hockey and basketball?

St. Louis has the Rams (why did they ever let the football Cardinals go? :cry:), and the Blues, but I have to vote for it as the best baseball town since baseball is by far the oldest and most "enthused over" sport there. And those fans know what-for, too. Plus, they are decent to visiting players.

Whitesoxnut
05-30-2008, 04:46 AM
Most of the people there are not cubs fans. Most of the people there are fans of booze. If not for the carnival atmosphere of the worlds largest outdoor bar, noone would go to cubs games. People dont go for the game, people go for the booze and colleged age girls, who go there for booze.

I wouldnt go that far. While its true there is more then its share of partying done at Wrigley, and to a lesser extent Comiskey, its also true Chicago is a madman baseball town.

Imgran
05-30-2008, 05:36 AM
Here's a twist.

The question is about baseball, and as I read it that doesn't necessarily mean just MLB. Anyone here have any experience with Japanese "baseball cities?" How about Hispanic ones?

WHere does the love of the game in Tokyo play against the same in New York or Boston? Anyone hazard a guess? They take their baseball pretty seriously in Japan after all. As evidenced by all the Japanese fans that are finding their way into an already crowded Fenway to root for Dice-K and Oki.

Captain Cold Nose
05-30-2008, 05:41 AM
Here's a twist.

The question is about baseball, and as I read it that doesn't necessarily mean just MLB. Anyone here have any experience with Japanese "baseball cities?" How about Hispanic ones?

WHere does the love of the game in Tokyo play against the same in New York or Boston? Anyone hazard a guess? They take their baseball pretty seriously in Japan after all. As evidenced by all the Japanese fans that are finding their way into an already crowded Fenway to root for Dice-K and Oki.

I just read You Gotta Have Wa. That's a different level of seriousness than what we see here.

hellborn
05-30-2008, 05:55 AM
There are enough bars in Chicago, and enough college hangouts, where one can get booze and broads, WITHOUT paying for a ticket to Wrigley Field. You can get a lot of both at any bar for what a ticket cost.

You obviously know little about baseball, and NOTHING about Chicago and the Cubs fans.

Bob

I'm a Chicago native, and I'm afraid that I have to second the notion that Wrigley is a "party central". Of course, the Cubs have lots of rabid fans, but so many people go to Wrigley just for the fun atmosphere or to be seen there. Wrigley is a wonderful, magical place, my favorite park.
I have only lived near five baseball cities...Chicago, St. Louis, Dallas, Detroit, and Boston. I have some familiarity with the baseball scenes in Milwaukee, SF/Oakland, Minneapolis, Atlanta, NYC, and LA. In my experience, it's clearly St. Louis for the title, but there are a lot of cities I know very little about as far as baseball.

tigers527
05-30-2008, 08:20 AM
Detroit is a good baseball town, very knowledgable fans who love their teams history. Right now the Tigers are taking a back seat to a couple other teams who are doing very well, though. But Detroit is still a good baseball city.

It's St. Louis, though.
I agree with your overall assessment, St. Louis is number 1 in baseball. That said, I think Detroit for all the history of it's baseball team is a football town. Back when the Lions were in the Silverdome the metro Detroit region (if you include Lansing) brought out nearly 250K football fans every weekend between college and the pros (if you can call the Lions pros). I doubt no other region could come close to matching that.

Captain Cold Nose
05-30-2008, 09:14 AM
I agree with your overall assessment, St. Louis is number 1 in baseball. That said, I think Detroit for all the history of it's baseball team is a football town. Back when the Lions were in the Silverdome the metro Detroit region (if you include Lansing) brought out nearly 250K football fans every weekend between college and the pros (if you can call the Lions pros). I doubt no other region could come close to matching that.

Some of that can be attributed to the size of the Silverdome and the Big House, not to slight Spartan Stadium. I do remember the Lions getting blacked out on TV quite a bit for home games. When things were going well, it was great for Lions fans, I've never heard a bigger stadium ovation than what Billy Sims got when it was confirmed he was going to stay a Lion and not go to the USFL. But things are more often than not so great since William Clay Ford took over and gave the reigns to Russ Thomas all those years ago.

Detroit is a great sports town, period. Look at how strong the PCL is year after year after year in basketball. And how strong hockey is from the lowest level on up. Football may be king in Michigan itself, though.

Dogdaze
05-30-2008, 01:18 PM
I agree with your overall assessment, St. Louis is number 1 in baseball. That said, I think Detroit for all the history of it's baseball team is a football town. Back when the Lions were in the Silverdome the metro Detroit region (if you include Lansing) brought out nearly 250K football fans every weekend between college and the pros (if you can call the Lions pros). I doubt no other region could come close to matching that.

Wow 250k fans, I knew they loved their football and baseball, but I always thought Detroit was more of a hockey or basketball town! I guess it's an all around sports town!

redlegsfan21
05-30-2008, 05:48 PM
Wow 250k fans, I knew they loved their football and baseball, but I always thought Detroit was more of a hockey or basketball town! I guess it's an all around sports town!

Detroit is and always be Hockeytown.

tigers527
05-31-2008, 08:02 AM
I do remember the Lions getting blacked out on TV quite a bit for home games.
My only memory of any significant number of black outs was the lean years between Billy Sims and Barry Sanders. That was kinda unfair of the league to require the Silverdome to be sold out since it had one of the largest capacities of any NFL venue at the time (83K give or take)?

NYMets523
05-31-2008, 08:50 AM
Yankee fan propaganda. Yankee Stadium capacity: 57,545; 2008 attendance: 1,339,311; avg; 51,512; 89.5%. NOT exactly a full house every game. And over 8% less per game than the Cubs. Mets averaging almost 6,000 under capacity each game. And New York has over TWICE the population of Chicago.
Wrigley Field's capacity is 16,000 less than Yankee Stadium. Obviously it is easier for it to reach full capacity when it has 16,000 fewer seats. 89.5% is still a lot. Every game is virtually sold out.

The city population is irrelevant. Not everyone can afford to go to games or are physically able to. That doesn't mean a majority of them don't care.

NYC has NO football team. The Giants and Jets play in East Rutherford, New Jersey. The Islanders hockey team plays in Uniondale, which is on Long Island, in Nassau County.
The Giants and Jets are NYC teams because of how close they are to the city. Both teams have their training facilities in NY, IIRC.

No one really cares about the Islanders but you can consider them an NY area team anyway.

Of course New Yawkers consider everywhere east of the (polluted) Hudson River is New York City.
The Hudson River isn't polluted. The East River is a different story.

South Bronx
06-01-2008, 01:56 AM
. I do remember the Lions getting blacked out on TV quite a bit for home games.


how do these blackouts work?

i've seen it on umpteen ESPN trailers that the game is 'subject to blackout' but never knew what it meant.

bluezebra
06-01-2008, 10:44 AM
Los Angeles isn't the best MLB town, but it could be the best actual baseball town based on how many amateurs play year round here and how many professionals come from here.

There's a lot of great Dodger fans, but most of them don't hold a candle to the Cardinals, Red Sox, and New York fans.

Dodger Stadium. Where Dodger fans show up in the third inning, and leave in the seventh. And where you see as many, if not more, visiting teams' shirts/caps, as for the Dodgers.

Bob

bluezebra
06-01-2008, 11:03 AM
Wrigley Field's capacity is 16,000 less than Yankee Stadium. Obviously it is easier for it to reach full capacity when it has 16,000 fewer seats. 89.5% is still a lot. Every game is virtually sold out.

The city population is irrelevant. Not everyone can afford to go to games or are physically able to. That doesn't mean a majority of them don't care.

The Giants and Jets are NYC teams because of how close they are to the city. Both teams have their training facilities in NY, IIRC.
No one really cares about the Islanders but you can consider them an NY area team anyway.

Even though they'e NOT in NYC.

The Hudson River isn't polluted. The East River is a different story.

Really? When a city has OVER TWICE the population, that means there are OVER TWICE the available tushes to fill the seats.

BUT, they PLAY their games in 'Joisy'.


Bob

NYMets523
06-01-2008, 11:23 AM
Really? When a city has OVER TWICE the population, that means there are OVER TWICE the available tushes to fill the seats.

That doesn't mean that everyone can afford to go to a game or is able to. They still top the league in attendance every year. Also take into account TV ratings and viewers as well as radio listeners and callers.

BUT, they PLAY their games in 'Joisy'.
1) It's Jersey. I live in NJ and the "Joisy" is very irritating.
2) Yes, but they are New York teams. The Giants played in NY from 1925 to 1973. The Jets played in NY from 1960 to 1983.

Lafferty Daniel
06-01-2008, 11:42 AM
Dodger Stadium. Where Dodger fans show up in the third inning, and leave in the seventh. And where you see as many, if not more, visiting teams' shirts/caps, as for the Dodgers.

Bob

Way to take my comment out of context, Bob.

JMC Bomber
06-01-2008, 11:42 AM
Dodger Stadium. Where Dodger fans show up in the third inning, and leave in the seventh. And where you see as many, if not more, visiting teams' shirts/caps, as for the Dodgers.

Bob


That's stupid. You could live 20 miles away from Dodger Stadium, leave your house 3 hours before the start of the game and still miss the first friggin' two innings. Do you have any concept of how horrendous LA traffic is plus the horrible traffic mess entering the stadium??? How the hell does that make them "bad fans?" Maybe if you didn't live in the middle of BF Egypt you'd have a little more understanding of life in the big city.

Lafferty Daniel
06-01-2008, 11:47 AM
That's stupid. You could live 20 miles away from Dodger Stadium, leave your house 3 hours before the start of the game and still miss the first friggin' two innings. Do you have any concept of how horrendous LA traffic is plus the horrible traffic mess entering the stadium??? How the hell does that make them "bad fans?" Maybe if you didn't live in the middle of BF Egypt you'd have a little more understanding of life in the big city.

Haha, BF Egypt :laugh

Erik Bedard
06-01-2008, 11:59 AM
That's stupid. You could live 20 miles away from Dodger Stadium, leave your house 3 hours before the start of the game and still miss the first friggin' two innings. Do you have any concept of how horrendous LA traffic is plus the horrible traffic mess entering the stadium??? How the hell does that make them "bad fans?" Maybe if you didn't live in the middle of BF Egypt you'd have a little more understanding of life in the big city.

Oh, no, not this (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=70127) again.

Captain Cold Nose
06-02-2008, 05:16 AM
how do these blackouts work?

i've seen it on umpteen ESPN trailers that the game is 'subject to blackout' but never knew what it meant.

A certain percentage of tickets must be sold for the game to be played in its home area. The Silverdome was so large, and the Lions rarely better than mediocre, this was often a problem with home games. Unless you were there, you were stuck with radio.

For some strange reason, the Pistons played there, too. The stadium was usually quartered off for Pistons games, including the playoffs.

spark240
06-02-2008, 01:24 PM
You could live 20 miles away from Dodger Stadium, leave your house 3 hours before the start of the game and still miss the first friggin' two innings. Do you have any concept of how horrendous LA traffic is plus the horrible traffic mess entering the stadium??? How the hell does that make them "bad fans?"

Maybe it doesn't make them bad fans, but it certainly pushes LA far down the list of baseball towns. Geography and physical design are among the most important factors in shaping a city's culture.

Whitesoxnut
06-02-2008, 01:53 PM
When you go east of the Mississippi sports fans go somewhat lunatic. I dont know why that is but it is. Ill include states like Texas in that, but mostly its the big Industrial cities like NY, CHGO, Philly, Detroit, Baaaaston....ect

Texas is mostly a football state but I include them cause the nuttiness is there should they harness it for baseball.

The West coast and FLA are more laid back. Im a Chicago cop and endured all those Jordan era basketball riots and should the Cubs ever win a WS this city would disintegrate. I was at Wrigley on duty the night of Bartman and right before that happened I turned to my partner and said, "this place is going to go nuts if they win this thing".

Wrigley is right in the middle of a huge tavern district and believe me if the Cubs win this year, they dont even have to win at home, but if they do? This place would go ape. Ive already had to endure some mini-Wrigley-riots when the Redbirds have visited.

Cubs fans, and Redbird fans, really dont like each other.

keystone
06-03-2008, 01:25 AM
What was Chicago like when the White Sox won the World Series?

JMC Bomber
06-03-2008, 11:27 AM
Maybe it doesn't make them bad fans, but it certainly pushes LA far down the list of baseball towns.

No, it does the opposite--it pushes it up the list. Dodger fans have to slog through some of, if not by far the worst, transportation system to get to the ballpark--taking more time out of their schedule than many fans....yet they still pack that stadium... night after night, year after year, bad teams or not, 2-hour traffic jams or not, 30-mile commute or not, a million other entertainment options or not.

BTW I understand your point about LA not being baseball friendly in a geographic sense, but IMO that isn't part of the meaning of a "baseball town". To me it's how passionate and supportive is that city about the game of baseball, and LA's pro AND amateur game (How many ML players are products of LA area high school teams?) is one of the city's big passions.

Lafferty Daniel
06-03-2008, 11:46 AM
I think the majority of Major Leaguers from the U.S. come from the Los Angeles area. High school and college baseball are huge here and both have great fans. Many amatuer ballparks have people playing on them throughout the year. Every weekend in the winter months I see kids practicing at the North Venice little league field. The East Coast may have a deeper history, but baseball across the board is more popular in Southern California because more people actually play the game on a regular basis.

NineWorldSeries
06-03-2008, 11:48 AM
Cincinnati certainly used to be a premier baseball town, and I'd like to think that it still is. The fans are not exactly selling out every game, but the atmosphere (at times, such as on Opening Day) is certainly electric in and around the Queen City.

keystone
06-03-2008, 02:10 PM
I am so mad that Cincy doesn't get the Opening Day glory it used to. Thank you, ESPN.

mrakbaseball
06-19-2008, 01:41 AM
San Pedro de Macoris D.R.

Richard
06-19-2008, 05:36 AM
Cincinnati is a great baseball town. The team has been awful for many, many years. The weekend crowds are very good. Milwaukee is a good baseball town. The locals really support the team and they know how to tailgate.

keystone
06-19-2008, 04:08 PM
The Dominican is like the US was in the old days when baseball was the only game in town. All the kids were in the streets perfecting their batting strokes, their curve balls or the double play. Fans were rabid about baseball, just baseball. And they could actually afford to go to the games.

So, yeah. I think San Pedro de Macoris is a great baseball town. I'd love to experience that total immersion...

stejay
06-20-2008, 09:28 AM
The best small baseball town in my opinion is Martinez, CA. Tug McGraw and Joe DiMaggio are from there. Also, their resident comprehensive high school, Alhambra High School, has won a few state championships.

hellborn
06-20-2008, 11:12 AM
The Dominican is like the US was in the old days when baseball was the only game in town. All the kids were in the streets perfecting their batting strokes, their curve balls or the double play. Fans were rabid about baseball, just baseball. And they could actually afford to go to the games.
...

Don't get too excited about the old days in the US...my father went to work at age 8 after his father died young (much more common back then), and never had time or money for diversions like baseball. After school, he delivered ice cream and did odd jobs at the houses where his mother was a cleaning woman. During summer break, he took the trolley out to the suburbs and caddied, sleeping in the clubhouse and only going home on weekends. If he had a little spare time, he went fishing for crabs to eat in the local clay pit. Even though he grew up not far from Wrigley field, catching a game there was out of the question.
I'm not saying his was a totally typical story, but life was hard for a lot of people then, and it was more acceptable for even young children to work. My father used most of his summer earnings to buy clothes for the next school year...he wouldn't have gotten any if he hadn't used his own money. Not all kids were out practicing to be the next Babe Ruth or Walter Johnson.

keystone
06-20-2008, 08:40 PM
hellborn -- I have no delusions about the "good old days." Both my parents and grandparents grew up really poor, and the boys of both generations had no time for baseball. They all did manage a high school education, but they always had jobs -- women as well.

I guess I was just trying to make the point that baseball really WAS America's pastime in decades past, and the focus of average sports fans was keenly on baseball (and boxing, too). That's what the Dominicans have -- that focus. I think the rise of the NFL & NBA took that away from US sports fans.

baseball fan
06-21-2008, 08:52 AM
Anyone know where the label "Best Fans in Baseball" came from with regards to St. Louis?

How true is this really?

cardsfanatic
06-21-2008, 10:15 AM
I'll skip saying St. Louis because I can't be unbiased there. Heh. The best fans I have ever encountered outside of St. Louis were probably the Baltimore Oriole fans. I don't know how well they support their team but I thoroughly enjoyed my game experience there and their fans were knowledgeable and well spoken.

I'd have to say one of the more rabid fanbases is the Cubs. I've been to Chicago countless times on both business and pleasure. Last year alone I was in and out of Chicago probably 75 times. I'll say this... that town loves their Cubbies. They know everything about them, too. However, they're some of the more hostile fans I've encountered, too. They seem totally bitter. I've been refused service before when I've went to public places wearing a Cardinal ballcap. One lady refused to turn on the gas pump for me. Another waiter refused to take my order.

Am I alone in thinking that is utterly ridiculous?

I can appreciate the Cubs fans passion for the game but _some_ of them seem downright insane. Yeah, I probably shouldn't wear a Cardinal ballcap out and about in Chicago but if I'm up there getting gas in my car or stopping off to grab a quick bite to eat... I'm dressed casual. I don't mind the razzing and trust me, I've taken plenty of it catching games at Wrigley Field. Heh. That, I don't mind. But refusing me service? Sheesh.

stejay
06-21-2008, 10:20 AM
I'll skip saying St. Louis because I can't be unbiased there. Heh. The best fans I have ever encountered outside of St. Louis were probably the Baltimore Oriole fans. I don't know how well they support their team but I thoroughly enjoyed my game experience there and their fans were knowledgeable and well spoken.

I'd have to say one of the more rabid fanbases is the Cubs. I've been to Chicago countless times on both business and pleasure. Last year alone I was in and out of Chicago probably 75 times. I'll say this... that town loves their Cubbies. They know everything about them, too. However, they're some of the more hostile fans I've encountered, too. They seem totally bitter. I've been refused service before when I've went to public places wearing a Cardinal ballcap. One lady refused to turn on the gas pump for me. Another waiter refused to take my order.

Am I alone in thinking that is utterly ridiculous?

I can appreciate the Cubs fans passion for the game but _some_ of them seem downright insane. Yeah, I probably shouldn't wear a Cardinal ballcap out and about in Chicago but if I'm up there getting gas in my car or stopping off to grab a quick bite to eat... I'm dressed casual. I don't mind the razzing and trust me, I've taken plenty of it catching games at Wrigley Field. Heh. That, I don't mind. But refusing me service? Sheesh.

I agree. It doesget insane. I remember I was shopping in Boston, wearinga Yanks cap. I got spat on once, and pushed when peeing twice. It was horrible.

redlegsfan21
06-21-2008, 01:37 PM
Anyone know where the label "Best Fans in Baseball" came from with regards to St. Louis?

How true is this really?

Because they seem to support their team through thick and thin and they are very knowledgable of the game.

Seattle1
06-21-2008, 01:51 PM
Well this thread/question has been up for a few weeks now. I've pondered it quite a bit, and after careful consideration I'm going to say the best baseball town is: Seattle, Washington.

Seattle has the largest geographic fanbase to draw from: Oregon, Washington, Alaska, Idaho, Montana, British Columbia, and beyond. Even Utah to a degree, at least in the northern part of the state.

:twocents:

brewcrew82
06-23-2008, 12:21 AM
Well this thread/question has been up for a few weeks now. I've pondered it quite a bit, and after careful consideration I'm going to say the best baseball town is: Seattle, Washington.

Seattle has the largest geographic fanbase to draw from: Oregon, Washington, Alaska, Idaho, Montana, British Columbia, and beyond. Even Utah to a degree, at least in the northern part of the state.

:twocents:

You are kidding right? :rolleyes: By that logic the Blue Jays would be the correct answer because they are the only team currently in Canada.

There are many places that could lay claim to being the best baseball town, St Louis, Cincinnati, New York, Boston, and there's probably more. Seattle would rank nowhere near the aforementioned cities.

I've always been under the impression that St Louis is the best city for baseball.