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GordonGecko
05-27-2008, 01:15 PM
Is EPSN Anti-Yankees?

This thread is to discuss the general perception out there that ESPN is anti-Yankees. Not everyone knows that ESPN is based in New England (Bristol, Connecticut), fertile Red Sox territory. They came up with the laughable term "Red Sox Nation", when no one outside of New England could care less what happens in Boston.

So the question is, have you seen instances where ESPN slants coverage against the Yankees, or downplays their accomplishments? Did you see a highlight or commentary that was blatantly anti-Yankee?

sturg1dj
05-27-2008, 01:31 PM
this is a loaded poll


you are asking if ESPN is anti-Yankees, but yet the choices are prefer Red Sox or team neutral.

1) ESPN is not team neutral
2) ESPN may prefer the Red Sox, but they are not anti-Yankee


and the idea that nobody outside of New England cares about Boston is crazy. One thing that some New York fans don't seem to get is because of the yankee's success over the years many people in the other cities have a tiered loyalty system. They root for their own team then they root for any team that beats the Yankees.

GordonGecko
05-27-2008, 01:34 PM
this is a loaded poll


you are asking if ESPN is anti-Yankees, but yet the choices are prefer Red Sox or team neutral.


That's partly tongue-in-cheek! Read between the lines, the question is if ESPN is anti-yankee or not.

sturg1dj
05-27-2008, 01:37 PM
well at least I know that it is tongue in cheek...but I will not vote because of the wording

tigers527
05-27-2008, 01:51 PM
"any publicity is good publicity" -PT Barnum-

So I guess the question needs to be asked, "Is ESPN pro-Yankee?"

After all for a last place team the Yankees get more top of the show stories on SportsCenter than any of the 1st place teams in any division. From A-Rod taking batting practice, to Joba being stretched out on his way to the rotation, ESPN is all Yankees all the time. So, maybe they are also presenting the RedSox similar to how they used to present just the Yankees, but that is not a bias against the Yankees it is more the RedSox catching up to how the Yanks are/were covered.

Ohplayer
05-27-2008, 02:05 PM
ESPN loves the Red Sox and Yankees! That is all they talk about.

bigtime39
05-27-2008, 02:38 PM
The Yankee$ are YESPNESN's formerly hot wife, whom they will never divorce. They're a little bored with her right now, but still shower her with bling.
The Red $ox are the hot secretary YESPNESN just happens to be banging right now. When she's no longer a hot property, she'll be dropped.

The truth is that YESPNESN looks at baseball the same way the Yankee$ and Red $ox do: there's the two of them, and then there are 28 other teams taking time away from the big two.

bleacherbum73
05-27-2008, 02:50 PM
ESPN loves the Red Sox and Yankees! That is all they talk about.

THANK YOU !! They don't seem to realize the rest of the country is out there. How many times do they show the Yanks-Red Sox series, or any game that features the Yankees or the Red Sox. Or the lead story in almost every Baseball Tonight episode. The yanks or Sox could be in last place and 25 games out and if one of them won 3 games in a row the headline would be" (insert team) start their climb to the top !!!

Old Sweater
05-27-2008, 02:52 PM
this is a loaded poll



Bang !

Seattle1
05-27-2008, 03:20 PM
I couldn't vote for either option. I think ESPN is pro-Yankees, but they are not team-neutral. They are slanted to coverage of East Coast teams in general.

Williamsburg2599
05-27-2008, 03:25 PM
Anti-Yankee? I've never heard this "General Perception."

Westlake
05-27-2008, 03:34 PM
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1. The notion that ESPN is anti-Yankee is downright laughable. It's the general perception? That's utterly ridiculous. No one other than some Yankee fans think that.

2. Why is everyone saying "ESPN only talks about the Red Sox and Yankees!" like its never been said before?

3. The poll question is loaded. It's not that simple, sturg was absolutely right. And it's dumb to think everyone that works for ESPN are Sox fans. They're from all over the country... not everyone that works there is from Connecticut or even New England.

4. Coverage of a team _does not_ mean that team is being favored. GordonGecko, read what it says under your moniker... It's only business... and smart business at that. You cover the issues that the public follows the most. The Yankees and Red Sox are the two most popular teams, therefore they will get more coverage than a team like the Astros.

It's like saying CNN is biased towards tsunamis over your city's problems with potholes.

Get over it.

Stray Cat
05-27-2008, 03:40 PM
No but I am. :D :laugh

OleMissCub
05-27-2008, 04:05 PM
THANK YOU !! They don't seem to realize the rest of the country is out there. How many times do they show the Yanks-Red Sox series, or any game that features the Yankees or the Red Sox. Or the lead story in almost every Baseball Tonight episode. The yanks or Sox could be in last place and 25 games out and if one of them won 3 games in a row the headline would be" (insert team) start their climb to the top !!!

Absolutely agree here.

This poll is ridiculous.

GordonGecko
05-27-2008, 04:16 PM
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1. The notion that ESPN is anti-Yankee is downright laughable. It's the general perception? That's utterly ridiculous. No one other than some Yankee fans think that.

2. Why is everyone saying "ESPN only talks about the Red Sox and Yankees!" like its never been said before?

3. The poll question is loaded. It's not that simple, sturg was absolutely right. And it's dumb to think everyone that works for ESPN are Sox fans. They're from all over the country... not everyone that works there is from Connecticut or even New England.

4. Coverage of a team _does not_ mean that team is being favored. GordonGecko, read what it says under your moniker... It's only business... and smart business at that. You cover the issues that the public follows the most. The Yankees and Red Sox are the two most popular teams, therefore they will get more coverage than a team like the Astros.

It's like saying CNN is biased towards tsunamis over your city's problems with potholes.

Get over it.

People get so angry over these things for some reason :)

Imgran
05-27-2008, 06:00 PM
Pretty silly poll.

The notion that ESPN is embedded Red Sox fans is patently ridiculous to those of us who remember the Yankee dynasty. Sadly, that doesn't even seem to include most Yankee fans these days. Where were the Red Sox when the Yankees were winning it all? It's only after the Sox became a major threat to the Yankees starting in '03 that they got any elevated coverage at all and the phenomenon really only got anywhere near the level of full-blown Yankee obeisance after the Sox won the world series in '04.

In other words, there's a distinction to be made here that shows where the true biases are, and it has to do with what happens if the Red SOx are consistently bad for a few years. Here's a hint: The media would switch to whoever else was the flavor of the month.

As evidence of the fact that this is not true for the Yankees, I submit the last 2 first halves as Exhibits A and B.

The Red Sox get favorite status because they're good. The Yankees get favorite status because they're the Yankees.

There's your bias.

DownUnderDodger
05-27-2008, 10:38 PM
How many times do they show the Yanks-Red Sox series, or any game that features the Yankees or the Red Sox.

Exactly one of my complaints from a country that gets limited baseball coverage, and much of that is centered on the Yankees or Red Sox, and other teams in the immediate vicinity of the ESPN headquarters. I wish they were anti Yankees, then we may get some variety.

BenHertz
05-27-2008, 11:13 PM
ESPN coverage rankings:
1. Football (They show NFL Live everyday, and it's late May!)
2. Yankees/Red Sox
3. Poker
4. Baseball

SHOELESSJOE3
05-27-2008, 11:23 PM
The reason this is a foolish poll, loaded is so plain to see. Do you think that "some" Yankee fans will say that ESPN is not anti Yanks............. do you think that "some" Bosox fans will say yes..........."sure" the Yanks do not get a fair shake at ESPN..are you kidding.

This is like two grandmothers arguing, who has the smarter and cuter grandchild.......now be honest, be objective.

tigers527
05-27-2008, 11:24 PM
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2. Why is everyone saying "ESPN only talks about the Red Sox and Yankees!" like its never been said before?
Cause before ESPN used to talk only about the Yankees. ergo the ESPN talks about another team MUST = ANTI Yankee

Blackout
05-27-2008, 11:59 PM
I'm sure the majority are Sawx fans

but there's alot of Yankee stuff too, remember the big deal they'd make in the late 90s??

Captain Cold Nose
05-28-2008, 05:21 AM
Anti-Yankee? I've never heard this "General Perception."

It does seem they enjoy Yankee failure as much as Yankee success.

YOUgodofwalks
05-28-2008, 11:05 AM
They came up with the laughable term "Red Sox Nation", when no one outside of New England could care less what happens in Boston.


First off, they invented neither the concept of Red Sox Nation nor the words to describe it. Yes, ESPN shows a lot of Red Sox and Yankees, because they win, and win consistenly recently. They have the most fans nation wide, if the Red Sox started losing a lot they would slide in coverage, it's all about ratings. Also, the idea ESPN corporate office is filled with Red Sox fans is funny. They are a world wide organization owned by the giant Walt Disney Corporation, the big shots come from all over the country and the world, because they are based in CT means nothing.

sturg1dj
05-28-2008, 11:35 AM
It does seem they enjoy Yankee failure as much as Yankee success.

i think that is because it makes for a good story. The Yankees are the clean shaven, serious, button down establishment while the Red Sox are the fun loving long haired anti establishment.

Captain Cold Nose
05-28-2008, 11:41 AM
i think that is because it makes for a good story. The Yankees are the clean shaven, serious, button down establishment while the Red Sox are the fun loving long haired anti establishment.

Does that really still hold true since Arroyo and Damon are gone?

What is everyone else?

Westlake
05-28-2008, 11:42 AM
People get so angry over these things for some reason :)

Yet you're the one crying about the coverage ESPN gives to your favorite baseball team on a message board. Wah wah wah... if you don't like it, don't watch it. I can't stand some of the crap on ESPN. So-called experts yelling about sports they know next to nothing about. The last person I want to hear giving his opinion about the baseball HOF is Skip Bayless, but he'll mouth off about it anyway. Therefore, I don't watch anything with him in it. You should try it.

And to you and blackout...

I'm sure everyone that works at ESPN rips off their suits at 5 o'clock to reveal Trot Nixon jerseys... then all go down to McGreevey's Pub to plot how they will hate on the Yankees in the upcoming week, while eating chowder. Oh, and Denis Leary is there.

GordonGecko
05-28-2008, 11:50 AM
First off, they invented neither the concept of Red Sox Nation nor the words to describe it. Yes, ESPN shows a lot of Red Sox and Yankees, because they win, and win consistenly recently. They have the most fans nation wide, if the Red Sox started losing a lot they would slide in coverage, it's all about ratings. Also, the idea ESPN corporate office is filled with Red Sox fans is funny. They are a world wide organization owned by the giant Walt Disney Corporation, the big shots come from all over the country and the world, because they are based in CT means nothing.

You're right about "Red Sox Nation" not being invented by ESPN, I think it was the Boston Globe that coined the phrase which ESPN loves to mention at every opportunity.

But I think you're wrong about they being based in CT not meaning anything. Most of the employees are locals, and most of those are Red Sox fans.

SHOELESSJOE3
05-28-2008, 11:52 AM
First off, they invented neither the concept of Red Sox Nation nor the words to describe it. Yes, ESPN shows a lot of Red Sox and Yankees, because they win, and win consistenly recently. They have the most fans nation wide, if the Red Sox started losing a lot they would slide in coverage, it's all about ratings. Also, the idea ESPN corporate office is filled with Red Sox fans is funny. They are a world wide organization owned by the giant Walt Disney Corporation, the big shots come from all over the country and the world, because they are based in CT means nothing.


Thats the truth, the Bosox and Yankees have fans every where, doesn't matter who doesn't like the Bosox or despises the Yankees............they draw every where. There was lots of crying when ESPN had the balls, that what some say to televise a game between these two, I believe on Friday night, unusual. Well those in some parts of the country who hate both of these teams don't get it, E$PEN considers the whole country.

E$PEN knows whats good for them

GordonGecko
05-28-2008, 11:56 AM
Yet you're the one crying about the coverage ESPN gives to your favorite baseball team on a message board. Wah wah wah... if you don't like it, don't watch it. I can't stand some of the crap on ESPN. So-called experts yelling about sports they know next to nothing about. The last person I want to hear giving his opinion about the baseball HOF is Skip Bayless, but he'll mouth off about it anyway. Therefore, I don't watch anything with him in it. You should try it.

And to you and blackout...

I'm sure everyone that works at ESPN rips off their suits at 5 o'clock to reveal Trot Nixon jerseys... then all go down to McGreevey's Pub to plot how they will hate on the Yankees in the upcoming week, while eating chowder. Oh, and Denis Leary is there.

The only one I see crying is you, lol

Westlake
05-28-2008, 12:12 PM
The only one I see crying is you, lol

Should have known to not take my time to respond to any grown man that uses the internet lingo 'lol'.

GordonGecko
05-28-2008, 12:20 PM
Should have known to not take my time to respond to any grown man that uses the internet lingo 'lol'.

Not to state the obvious, but if you're not on the internet where do you think your messages get posted to??? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

steve rogers
05-28-2008, 12:26 PM
I live about a half hour from Bristol and I know 2 people that either work at ESPN now or have worked there in the past. There are people from all over the country that work there, but there's a greater percentage of people from the area that work there.

Bristol CT is closer to New York than Boston. CT is about 50% Red Sox Fans, 40% Yankees fans and 10% Mets fans. Lately there are a lot more Red Sox "fans" since they won 2 championships, just like there are a lot more Yankees "fans" since they won 4. There is no conspiracy at ESPN. They're just doing what all those "fans" that rediscovered their love for the Red Sox have done. They're jumping on the bandwagon of a popular team. If the Royals and the Pirates were the two most popular teams in baseball there would be as much coverage of them.

It's about money and ratings. Period. ESPN is terrible anyway. Except Kruk. He's cool, especially with the beard, he should bring that back.

Scott

GordonGecko
05-28-2008, 12:32 PM
I live about a half hour from Bristol and I know 2 people that either work at ESPN now or have worked there in the past. There are people from all over the country that work there, but there's a greater percentage of people from the area that work there.

Bristol CT is closer to New York than Boston. CT is about 50% Red Sox Fans, 40% Yankees fans and 10% Mets fans. Lately there are a lot more Red Sox "fans" since they won 2 championships, just like there are a lot more Yankees "fans" since they won 4. There is no conspiracy at ESPN. They're just doing what all those "fans" that rediscovered their love for the Red Sox have done. They're jumping on the bandwagon of a popular team. If the Royals and the Pirates were the two most popular teams in baseball there would be as much coverage of them.

It's about money and ratings. Period. ESPN is terrible anyway. Except Kruk. He's cool, especially with the beard, he should bring that back.

Scott

I think you summed it up pretty well. ESPN follows the money & success, and the Red Sox + Yankees are some of the biggest spenders and make the most noise in MLB.

Westlake
05-28-2008, 12:32 PM
It's about money and ratings. Period. ESPN is terrible anyway.

Scott

Good post, Scott. It's allllll about the money (as it should be, it's a business) -- anyone who doesn't believe that is kidding themselves. Red Sox fans hating on the Yankees? That's flimsy. Popular teams will always get the bulk of the coverage. If the Cubs and ChiSox start winning, are we going to hear about a Midwest bias?

digglahhh
05-28-2008, 12:41 PM
Word. I heard Stuart Scott ghostwrites for Esoteric.

Captain Cold Nose
05-28-2008, 12:47 PM
Good post, Scott. It's allllll about the money (as it should be, it's a business) -- anyone who doesn't believe that is kidding themselves. Red Sox fans hating on the Yankees? That's flimsy. Popular teams will always get the bulk of the coverage. If the Cubs and ChiSox start winning, are we going to hear about a Midwest bias?

If the Cubs and the ChiSox start winning (like in 2005) are we going to hear about it?

Westlake
05-28-2008, 01:16 PM
If the Cubs and the ChiSox start winning (like in 2005) are we going to hear about it?

If they both started winning multiple championships? Absolutely.

One championship and one 4th place finish isn't exactly what I was talking about (although i'm guessing you meant the Cubs finish in 2003 -- which would have been THE story and THE team for the next couple years if the Sox hadn't gone on to win for the first time in 86 years in 2004).

sturg1dj
05-28-2008, 01:23 PM
Does that really still hold true since Arroyo and Damon are gone?

What is everyone else?


um....Manny Ramirez?

and aside from him, there are still a lot of beards on those teams. Remember what the Yankees did to Giambi and Damon when they came over.

there is this sense, and maybe New Yorkers don't see this, but there is this sense that the Yankees take themselves way too seriously while the Red Sox do not.

mojorisin71
05-28-2008, 01:32 PM
If they both started winning multiple championships? Absolutely.

One championship and one 4th place finish isn't exactly what I was talking about (although i'm guessing you meant the Cubs finish in 2003 -- which would have been THE story and THE team for the next couple years if the Sox hadn't gone on to win for the first time in 86 years in 2004).
"Multiple championships"?

Before the Sox won last year, they were still getting more coverage than the rest of the leagues.

Westlake
05-28-2008, 01:42 PM
"Multiple championships"?

Before the Sox won last year, they were still getting more coverage than the rest of the leagues.

I do believe we were talking about the Yankees here too... and if memory serves me correctly, they've won like.. alot.

That's not even the point. These two teams don't run ESPN's programming. The Sox and Yankees are two successful teams that have won 5 Championships in the last decade with the two biggest fan bases in baseball -- they get more attention than teams like the Angels, Rangers, and White Sox from a sports channel?!? I'm flabbergasted.

mojorisin71
05-28-2008, 01:47 PM
Your quote was "If they both started winning multiple championships? Absolutely."

By "both," I assume you mean New York and Boston, right?

sturg1dj
05-28-2008, 01:51 PM
Your quote was "If they both started winning multiple championships? Absolutely."

By "both," I assume you mean New York and Boston, right?

the Red Sox weren't being covered like they are now until they showed that year in and year out they would challenge the Yankees. If anything this came during a time of Yankee overload where the Yankees were everywhere and that is all you ever heard about, and for good reason...they were killing everyone. Along came a team that didn't take the Yankees crap, and remained consistent. Every good story needs a good guy and a bad guy. The Yankees were the good guys in the late 90's and became the bad guys. Its like pro-wrestling really.

steve rogers
05-28-2008, 01:55 PM
Word. I heard Stuart Scott ghostwrites for Esoteric.

I saw Steven A Smith in a movie. He pontificated, sounded arrogant, and said stupid stupid things. All these years I thought he was just a stupid, arrogant gasbag but it turns out he was just getting into character. I guess the booyah was on me.

Scott

Evangelion
05-28-2008, 02:14 PM
ESPN coverage rankings:
1. Football (They show NFL Live everyday, and it's late May!)
2. Yankees/Red Sox
3. Poker
4. Baseball
Ha ha ha, I known. It's not the NFL Network yet NFL Live being aired in May every day. The draft is come and gone, but NFL Live is on. I'm aware football popular, but what type of news can you report on football daily in May?

Imgran
05-28-2008, 02:18 PM
the Red Sox weren't being covered like they are now until they showed that year in and year out they would challenge the Yankees. If anything this came during a time of Yankee overload where the Yankees were everywhere and that is all you ever heard about, and for good reason...they were killing everyone. Along came a team that didn't take the Yankees crap, and remained consistent. Every good story needs a good guy and a bad guy. The Yankees were the good guys in the late 90's and became the bad guys. Its like pro-wrestling really.

Indeed, and now the Sox are in the process of becoming Goliath, and it looks like the role of David might be played by the Tampa Bay Rays at this point.

It's a cycle. Deal.

Westlake
05-28-2008, 02:26 PM
Your quote was "If they both started winning multiple championships? Absolutely."

By "both," I assume you mean New York and Boston, right?

Nope, I was actually talking about the White Sox and Cubs.

digglahhh
05-28-2008, 02:30 PM
Well, okay, let me pose an alternative question:

Is ESPN2 anti-Yankees? :D

Westlake
05-28-2008, 02:37 PM
Well, okay, let me pose an alternative question:

Is ESPN2 anti-Yankees? :D

I thoroughly believe that ESPN classic has a west coast bias. Today I saw an old USC football game and a Laker playoff game. But then again, they were against BC and the Celtics, respectively.

ESPN has a bias against states that aren't near the ocean.

ESPN has a bias towards water. People that work at ESPN drink water. I'm slowly piecing this together.

mojorisin71
05-28-2008, 03:01 PM
Nope, I was actually talking about the White Sox and Cubs.

Maybe you should have said "either" instead of "both."

Westlake
05-28-2008, 03:48 PM
Maybe you should have said "either" instead of "both."

Why? I meant both.

cardsfanatic
05-28-2008, 03:56 PM
ESPN is pro-interesting. Period.

Teams that win, get coverage. Teams that lose, don't. Simple as that. And it's the same in every sport. The Cowboys and Patriots get tons of press on ESPN. When those franchises were in the pits, most of america didn't even know the Patriots existed. The Cowboys were, well, still the Cowboys. So even when they suck, they're news. "We can't believe how much they suck!"

The Lakers in the NBA gets tons of coverage. It's just the way ESPN operates. Their job is to sell stories and make people interested and watching. If they did hour long tributes to the Texas Rangers history once a week, no one would tune in to watch. Even the people whining about it wouldn't tune in to watch it.

I just saw a Cubs vs Dodgers game on ESPN last night. Someone must have messed up in Bristol, don't they know they can only show Yankee and Redsox games?

As far as this question goes, yes, ESPN comes off as more Redsock fan than Yankee fan. However, I don't think it's some grand conspiracy. Once again they're just playing to what most people want to see. The Redsox, despite monsterous payrolls and building their world series teams via free agency _FAR_ more than the Yankees ever did, have managed to paint themselves as David vs Goliath. The Yankees no doubt have the biggest fan base of any team but they also have the biggest hater base, too. By a long shot. ESPN just plays into this.

The Bosox, the underdog, vs Yanks, the evil empire. Even if the majority of the people don't necessarily want to see the Redsox win, the overwhelming majority wants to see the Yankees lose. So, Redsox win = bad for the Yankees, which means it's a good thing.

It's all about fan interest. That story right now sells. How else can you explain the massive rate in which ESPN has grown lately? It'd be nice if they would acknowledge other teams more often... but what you guys fail to realize, you're just adding to the problem. They won't stop force feeding Sox/Yanks to you until YOU, the consumer, quit watching. Only then will they change their programming.

cardsfanatic
05-28-2008, 04:02 PM
I couldn't vote for either option. I think ESPN is pro-Yankees, but they are not team-neutral. They are slanted to coverage of East Coast teams in general.

In baseball, perhaps. In Basketball? Hardly.

steve rogers
05-28-2008, 04:07 PM
You know what channel has terrible bias? E! It's all Britney and Angelina, meanwhile Phillip Seymour Hoffman has a VORP like 20 points higher than both of them. Lindsay Lohan's mom's WHIP is like 2.03 and they give her her own show. Daniel Day Lewis has a WHIP of .56 with a career ERA+ of 197 and he hardly ever gets mentioned.

Scott

digglahhh
05-28-2008, 04:19 PM
Just for the record, there is a chicken and egg dynamic here.

They give what we are interested in because we develop interest in what they give us.

Unless of course I was unable to perceive the omnipresent and burgeoning desire for increased coverage of poker all these years.

cardsfanatic
05-28-2008, 04:39 PM
Just for the record, there is a chicken and egg dynamic here.

They give what we are interested in because we develop interest in what they give us.

Unless of course I was unable to perceive the omnipresent and burgeoning desire for increased coverage of poker all these years.

Not true for me. If I don't find something interesting I won't watch it. ESPN can throw poker on the tube 24/7 but I won't watch it. I'd rather read a book or ride my bike than sit and watch people play poker. Same goes for when ESPN tried to promote golf. Am I the only one that remembers that? They tried everything to market it but it flopped because no matter what they did, no one would watch it.

ESPN, while entertainment, is still governed by the laws of supply and demand. If people won't watch their product they have no choice but to change it. If people continually tune in to ESPN only to bitch about their incessant love affair with the Sox/Yanks, then guess what... you're still watching. They don't really care _why_ you're watching, just that you're watching. Not to jump off base here too much but it's sorta like what happened with Howard Stern in the 90's. His viewership was insane because half the people tuned in just so they could get offended and complain about his crude shows. It was counter-productive, though. All it did was make him richer and his show _harder_ to get off the air. So, my only advice to people that are upset with all the Sox/Yanks stuff? Quit watching. If enough people do that, they'll have to change their programming.

BlueBlood
05-28-2008, 04:44 PM
ESPN is totally biased towards east coast sports. Their televised baseball games begin with an intro (the baseball card one) that ends with modern world champions. However, the only ones it seems to show are the Yankees/Red Sox. :laugh

SHOELESSJOE3
05-28-2008, 04:47 PM
Good post, Scott. It's allllll about the money (as it should be, it's a business) -- anyone who doesn't believe that is kidding themselves. Red Sox fans hating on the Yankees? That's flimsy. Popular teams will always get the bulk of the coverage. If the Cubs and ChiSox start winning, are we going to hear about a Midwest bias?

Right on it, I posted long ago.
Whats with all the back and forth, hate this team, they favor that team, we're sick of seeing the Yanks and Bosox so much.
Well for those who loath can't stand one or both of those teams............ the rest of the country wants to see them. I'm sure that last line will bring on more ire, it's the truth. What might one of you do if you ran ESPN$$$$$$$$$. It's business.

digglahhh
05-28-2008, 04:56 PM
Not true for me. If I don't find something interesting I won't watch it...

Yeah, I don't really watch the channel much either. My underlying point is that there is an inherent relationship between exposure and tolerance, and then often times, appreciation.

Think of songs that "grew on you" or the first time you drank a beer...

NJMetfan4life
05-28-2008, 04:59 PM
no one outside of New England could care less what happens in Boston.

What if it gets hit by a bomb? What if a hurricane comes? What if Ted Williams ghost comes and teaches everybody how to hit .400?

Also. Why do you say in the poll, "Everyone on ESPN is wearing Red Sox". What if they're wearing a suit? That would be very embarressing. Why can't they like any other of the 29 teams? Why must they hate the Yankees, because they don't have 50 games on ESPN anymore?

Colorado Express
05-28-2008, 08:02 PM
this is a loaded poll


you are asking if ESPN is anti-Yankees, but yet the choices are prefer Red Sox or team neutral.

1) ESPN is not team neutral
2) ESPN may prefer the Red Sox, but they are not anti-Yankee


Exactly... ESPN certainly is not anti-Yankees, in fact, I would say they are pro-Yankees.

Now, do they favor the Red Sox more thatn the Yankees? Absolutely!!!

DownUnderDodger
05-28-2008, 09:54 PM
Is ESPN2 anti-Yankees? :D

ESPN2 had the Dodgers v Cubs game today - what a pity we didn't get it over here!! :cry:

One thing that drives me mad are the stupid adverts on ESPN, and they very rarely change them. The one with the guy in pink shorts doing the "exercise classes" and the one with the female coach from kentucky are aprticlarly grating. I know that has nothing to do with the title of this thread, but I thought I would throw it in anyway. maybe it all appeals to Yankees and Red Sox fans?

DownUnderDodger
05-28-2008, 10:56 PM
ESPN2 had the Dodgers v Cubs game today - what a pity we didn't get it over here!! :cry:


Well there you go....we have got the Cubs v Dodgers game on TV........but it is certainly not live :disbelief: I guess ESPN wanted to show the Celtics v Pistons game live and gave us a replay of the ball game. Unfortunately I have to go to work....and I know the score anyway :evil