Calif_Eagle
05-15-2008, 02:13 PM
I'm a native Clevelander and I loved / appreciated your first attempt at a League Park model. Very much hope you are able to finish the project one day and post some pix of it here. (I'd love to have a good quality replica of both League Park and Cleveland Municipal Stadium too!)
Very sorry to hear that you lost your files, I sure hope you are going to see it through. The start you had was amazing.
I wish there was a solid economic or financial reason for some group or individual to reconstruct a new League Park, a lifesize duplicate of the original, for use by some real team.
Does anyone think that if someone (investment group or corporation) chose say 8 cities with long baseball tradition and built (rebuilt) their old classic parks (major or minor league) as true as they could to the originals (without all the crap that owners seem to think modern day fans need thats extraneous to the game) that something like a vintage league from say the dead ball era of the early 20th century would have *any* chance of succeeding financially? I have always felt that it would, that the game itself is enough, but I am a purist.
(I will post the 2 preceeding paragraphs as a new thread also, I dont want to hijack this one.)
I posted this on the latest "League Park" thread & I got to thinking. What if a group or individual decided to form a vintage league and play the game differently. Not as todays whippet bat, lively ball, steroid infested, home run derby, for the primary benefit of corporate America in their luxury boxes; but instead built copies of the older classic parks with very deep outfields and fences. (Not Camden Yards type classic inspired duplicates. I mean exact copies of places like League Park, Sportsman's Park, Ebbets Field, Forbes Field, the PG, Crosley Field etc. Even some minor league parks. And played the game with a vintage league with restrictions on the bats (handles and bulb and weight and sweet spot) & balls (liveliness, centers tightness of stitching etc.). With deep fences, (Think: "Carriage Parking" in the outfield! lol) emphasis on strategy (No DH !) pitching and defense. Chances to see real triples and ITP home runs, not ones where errors in the field are merely ignored or discounted by the scorer.
Does anyone think such a league would have any economic chance of success at all? Is the game alone still enough for anyone? Or, do people today have to have all the stuff (read: "Crap") that goes along with a trip to most of the modern day ball parks? When I was young Tribe fan growing up I went to the ballpark to watch BASEBALL, eat some hotdogs, some peanuts, drink some Coke, (Later years, some beer) listen to Herb Score's play by play on my radio that I brought along. Thats about it. And it was Great too.
Very sorry to hear that you lost your files, I sure hope you are going to see it through. The start you had was amazing.
I wish there was a solid economic or financial reason for some group or individual to reconstruct a new League Park, a lifesize duplicate of the original, for use by some real team.
Does anyone think that if someone (investment group or corporation) chose say 8 cities with long baseball tradition and built (rebuilt) their old classic parks (major or minor league) as true as they could to the originals (without all the crap that owners seem to think modern day fans need thats extraneous to the game) that something like a vintage league from say the dead ball era of the early 20th century would have *any* chance of succeeding financially? I have always felt that it would, that the game itself is enough, but I am a purist.
(I will post the 2 preceeding paragraphs as a new thread also, I dont want to hijack this one.)
I posted this on the latest "League Park" thread & I got to thinking. What if a group or individual decided to form a vintage league and play the game differently. Not as todays whippet bat, lively ball, steroid infested, home run derby, for the primary benefit of corporate America in their luxury boxes; but instead built copies of the older classic parks with very deep outfields and fences. (Not Camden Yards type classic inspired duplicates. I mean exact copies of places like League Park, Sportsman's Park, Ebbets Field, Forbes Field, the PG, Crosley Field etc. Even some minor league parks. And played the game with a vintage league with restrictions on the bats (handles and bulb and weight and sweet spot) & balls (liveliness, centers tightness of stitching etc.). With deep fences, (Think: "Carriage Parking" in the outfield! lol) emphasis on strategy (No DH !) pitching and defense. Chances to see real triples and ITP home runs, not ones where errors in the field are merely ignored or discounted by the scorer.
Does anyone think such a league would have any economic chance of success at all? Is the game alone still enough for anyone? Or, do people today have to have all the stuff (read: "Crap") that goes along with a trip to most of the modern day ball parks? When I was young Tribe fan growing up I went to the ballpark to watch BASEBALL, eat some hotdogs, some peanuts, drink some Coke, (Later years, some beer) listen to Herb Score's play by play on my radio that I brought along. Thats about it. And it was Great too.