Who is the third best pitcher of the new generation?

[The Dude]

Round 1 & 2 Results:
1.Johan Santana: 45% (14 Votes)
-Jake Peavy: 19% (6 Votes)
-Brandon Webb: 16% (5 Votes)
-Roy Halladay: 10% (3 Votes)
-Roy Oswalt: 6% (2 Votes)
-Josh Beckett: 3% (1 Vote)
2.Roy (Doc) Halladay: 37% (7 Votes)[B]
-Brandon Webb: 26% (5 Votes)
-Josh Beckett: 16% (3 Votes)
-Carols Zambrano: 16% (3 Votes)
-Roy Oswalt: 5% (1 Vote)


So here's the setup. The pitcher must be under the age of 32, and have at least 75 MLB starts. Poll is open 4 days

Vote for your new top choice ...



Player GS IP W L CG SHO K's ERA+ WHIP BI GI
Bedard, Erik 115 682 42 35 1 1 659 120 1.33 2 19
Buehrle, Mark [b]240 1,665 108 78 23 7 966 122 1.26 7 78
Beckett, Josh 171 1,048 80 54 4 2 993 116 1.22 4 41
Haren, Danny 128 824 53 45 5 0 642 114 1.23 3 44
Hernandez, Felix 80 516 32 27 4 2 462 112 1.30 0 21
Grienke, Zack 77 499 24 36 3 0 353 105 1.33 0 14
Kazmir, Scott 98 574 35 30 1 1 622 122 1.39 5 16
Peavy, Jake 179 1,136 80 52 6 3 1,136 120 1.18 23 80
Oswalt, Roy 216 1,455 115 57 12 4 1,203 139 1.21 14 94
Sheets, Ben 196 1,269 77 74 14 2 1,080 114 1.19 6 52
Sabathia, C.C. 226 1,444 101 68 16 5 1,179 113 1.28 9 78
Webb, Brandon 170 1,136 72 55 12 7 917 145 1.23 20 77
Zambrano, Carlos 187 1,240 85 56 7 2 1,077 132 1.28 5 91


Bedard, Erik:
2002-2007: Balitmore Orioles
2008-: Seattle Mariners

Buehrle, Mark:
2000-: Chicago White Sox
-No-Hitter in 2006
-3 All-Star Appearances
-2 Playoff Appearances
-1 WS Ring

Beckett, Josh:
2001-2005: Florida Marlins
2006-: Boston Red Sox
-1 All-Star Appearance
-2 Playoff Appearances
-2 WS Rings
-1 Cy Young Award

Haren, Danny:
2002-2003: St. Louis Cardinals
2004-2007: Oakland Athletics
2008-: Arizona Diamondbacks
-1 All-Star Appearance
-2 Playoff Appearances
-1 WS Ring

Hernandez, Felix:
2005-:Seattle Mariners

Grienke, Zack:
2004-: Kansas City Royals

Kazmir, Scott:
2004-: Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays
-1 All-Star Appearance

Peavy, Jake:
2002-: San Diego Padres
-2 All-Star Appearances
-2 Playoff Appearances
-1 Cy Young Award

Oswalt, Roy:
2001-: Houston Astros
-1 Inning of No-Hitter in 2003
-3 All-Star Appearances
-2 Playoff Appearances

Sheets, Ben:
2000-: Milwaukee Brewers
-3 All-Star Appearances

Sabathia, C.C.:
2001-: Cleveland Indians
-3 All-Star Appearances
-2 Playoff Appearances


Webb, Brandon:
2002-: Arizona Diamondbacks
-2 All-Star Appearances
-1 Playoff Appearance
-ROY Award
-1 Cy Young Award

Zambrano, Carlos:
2001-: Chicago Cubs
-2 All-Star Appearances
-2 Playoff Appearances

[OleMissCub]

I'm gonna go with Peavy here.

[bob]

Another vote to Peavy, although Webb is building a case for himself (that certainly hasnt been hurt by his 8-0 start this year!)

[The Dude]

I'm interested to see if there's a surge of votes for Webb after his 9 for 9 tonight.

[Old Sweater]

Webb is even nastier with that change he throws now. Out of all the good pitching in the NL West I hate it most when the Rockies have to face him.

[Zagi-CRO]

Brandon Webb showed the best persisting during the last 2-3 years.
I'll give him 5 stars...

Webb - *****
Beckett - ***
Peavy - ***
Zambrano -**
Hernandez - *

What's about Maine, Matsuzaka, Hamels?

[Erik Bedard]

John Maine!? One full season (and that was just okay)? Better than Matsuzaka though, I'll give you that. Hamels hasn't proven enough yet, but he should be up there soon.

For the poll, I went with Webb by a hair over Peavy. After those two, I'd go with Oswalt. After that I'm not sure.

[Imgran]

Kaz. No question. A winner for a losing team, an innings horse, and a league-leader in strikeouts, and he was effective despite horrendous Tampa defense behind him. With a much better D this year we should see a better Kaz.

Although I'm not sure that Kaz is really in the same generation as some of these others like Peavey and Sabbathia. Not unless the likes of Lester, Buchholz, Verlander, Jered Weaver, etc. are too.

[Erik Bedard]

Kazmir is great, but IMO, he doesn't belong up with Peavy and Webb. He's in the running for my 6th spot (after Webb, Peavy, and Oswalt).

[The Dude]

What's about Maine, Matsuzaka, Hamels?

I'll just refer you back to the first post in the thread; all candidates must have at least 75 MLB starts, which Maine, Dice-K, and Hamels have not yet attained.

[holyroman]

I go Webb, Oswalt, Peavy

[Colorado Express]

I'm going with Peavy as well.

[BlueBlood]

I go Webb, Oswalt, Peavy

Exactly the same here. :applaud:

[Blackout]

peavy should be #2

[cardsfanatic]

I don't understand why Josh Beckett has any votes at all. He got a vote for #1, 3 for #2 and he's up to like 4 now for #3. What in the world does this guy have going for him outside of post-season play? I guess John Smoltz was better than Greg Maddux and Roger Clemens, too, because he was lights out in the post-season? Give me a break!

Beckett is solid but shouldn't touch anywhere near the top 5, IMHO. I voted Peavy but I really feel he should be #2 and Oswalt #3.

[J W]

Because he's done it a tad longer, I'm voting Oswalt here over Webb and Peavy.

Actually, Zambrano has more wins and a much higher ERA+ than Peavy...