He did it! 350 Wins for Maddux! [Archive]

SamtheBravesFan

05-10-2008, 11:36 PM

Saturday May 10, 2008

6 IP, 3 H, 0 BB, 0 ER, 1K, 68 pitches, 45 strikes.

*claps* I would expect nothing less from one of the greatest pitchers in the history of this game.

Congratulations, Greg. You've earned it. :dance

blacksilverfan12

05-11-2008, 12:15 AM

I remember his Dodger debut a couple years ago. Six no-hit innings before the rain delay
:clapping Good job Greg

Los Bravos

05-11-2008, 12:18 AM

Congratulations to the magnificent doofus :highfive:

Here's hoping that he passes Clemens, and maybe even flags down Warren. He's the only guy I would be happy to see do it.

And here's to him maybe, finally, getting some of the huge regard that he earned long ago.

NJMetfan4life

05-11-2008, 09:14 AM

Saturday May 10, 2008

6 IP, 3 H, 0 BB, 0 ER, 1K, 68 pitches, 45 strikes.

Why did they take him out in the 6th with only 68 pitches? Unless those 3 hits were in a row in the 6th.

BenHertz

05-11-2008, 10:47 AM

Maddux can't pitch as many innings as he used to (age 42), and the Padres had 3 of their best relievers ready to pitch.

It was catcher Luke Carlin's ML debut,too.

NJMetfan4life

05-11-2008, 11:04 AM

Maddux can't pitch as many innings as he used to (age 42), and the Padres had 3 of their best relievers ready to pitch.

It was catcher Luke Carlin's ML debut,too.

That makes sence:twocents:.

bluezebra

05-11-2008, 11:21 AM

He looked great tonight. I'm looking forward to watching him catch and pass clemens in wins and innings pitched.

Maddux is already miles past Clemens in CLASS.

Bob

geezer

05-11-2008, 02:43 PM

And a more 5-tool pitcher than Clemens as well.

The Dude

05-11-2008, 02:55 PM

And a more 5-tool pitcher than Clemens as well.

5-tool pitcher!? I've sadly never heard of this before ... what exactly are the tools?

Command? Power? Fielding? Stamina?

Honus Wagner Rules

05-11-2008, 05:21 PM

5-tool pitcher!? I've sadly never heard of this before ... what exactly are the tools?

Command? Power? Fielding? Stamina?

I've never heard of a 5-tool pitcher, either. My guess would be:

-Power fastball (equivalent to power for a hitter)
-Control (equivalent to a great contact hitter)
-Has 4 great pitches
-Fielding
-Workhorse

csh19792001

05-11-2008, 07:58 PM

To put this into perspective, consider the chronology of the last occurrences of a pitcher obtaining 350 wins.

Yes, there was Clemens (unfortunately).

You have to go all the way back to 1963 when Spahn won his 350th game, shutting out the Chicago Cubs on the final day of the season.

And before that, all the way back to April 17th, 1927, when Pete Alexander beat the Cincinnati Reds 2-1 to win #350.

So that's only three times in the last 81 years that a player has won this many games. And we know Clemens was using steroids for a significant portion of his career, and wouldn't have had a prayer at 350 without them.

Damned impressive. Congrats to one of the top few greatest to ever pitch.

In my mind, perhaps the greatest of them all.

geezer

05-11-2008, 08:43 PM

I've never heard of a 5-tool pitcher, either. My guess would be:

-Power fastball (equivalent to power for a hitter)
-Control (equivalent to a great contact hitter)
-Has 4 great pitches
-Fielding
-Workhorse

Yeah something like that, but mainly Maddux has great fielding, and known for his great control, and his ability to take the hitters out.

bluezebra

05-11-2008, 10:13 PM

ReignInBlood

05-11-2008, 10:59 PM

I've never heard of a 5-tool pitcher, either. My guess would be:

-Power fastball (equivalent to power for a hitter)
-Control (equivalent to a great contact hitter)
-Has 4 great pitches
-Fielding
-Workhorse

You could even take out "has 4 great pitchers" and add some batting skills instead, a good hitting pitcher is never bad for a team.

Los Bravos

05-12-2008, 03:06 AM

You have to go all the way back to 1963 when Spahn won his 350th game, shutting out the Chicago Cubs on the final day of the season.Putting the cap on his last great season.And before that, all the way back to April 17th, 1927, when Pete Alexander beat the Cincinnati Reds 2-1 to win #350.That really puts it in proper perspective.So that's only three times in the last 81 years that a player has won this many games. And we know Clemens was using steroids for a significant portion of his career, and wouldn't have had a prayer at 350 without them.

Damned impressive. Congrats to one of the top few greatest to ever pitch.

In my mind, perhaps the greatest of them all. Well put, sir. In all particulars.

KCGHOST

05-12-2008, 08:58 AM

Maddux is certainly having a very respectable decline phase. If he had a team with any kind of offense he would have a chance at passing Spahn and reaching 5th place in all-time wins.

Chasing74

05-12-2008, 01:08 PM

Maddux is a true pitcher who has been able to get it done for a long long time. We really have to appreciate this milestone because this is a statistic that we may never see reached again.

NYMets523

05-12-2008, 01:39 PM

congrats to a legend! Maddux is the man. Rename the CYA to the GMA!!!

If the Cy Young Award's name will be changed, it be changed to the Walter Johnson Award.

AlexC

05-12-2008, 03:44 PM

Shocking that he actually made an error in this game, very un-Maddux.

What an effort though.

cardsfanatic

05-12-2008, 03:49 PM

I don't know about all of the Maddux > Clemens talk. I've always been a bigger Maddux fan than I was of Clemens but I pretty much recognize that Clemens is better than Maddux. Not even sure what the heck a "five tool pitcher" is, heh. Anyway, a great accomplishment indeed.

cardsfanatic

05-12-2008, 03:51 PM

You could even take out "has 4 great pitchers" and add some batting skills instead, a good hitting pitcher is never bad for a team.

Unless he's in the AL. :)

west coast orange and black

05-12-2008, 04:03 PM

cardsfanatic: I don't know about all of the Maddux > Clemens talk.

the supposition by many is that maddux did not use.
i would not wager on that.

bob

05-12-2008, 04:13 PM

If the Cy Young Award's name will be changed, it be changed to the Walter Johnson Award.
Depends on who renames it. Give the public the vote and it'll be the Nolan Ryan Award. :laugh

Old Sweater

05-12-2008, 04:56 PM

Hats off to Maddux. He pitched as great a game as Biggio had hitting against the Rockies when he got hit #3000 and #3001 and #3002 and #3003

Los Bravos

05-12-2008, 09:58 PM

cardsfanatic: I don't know about all of the Maddux > Clemens talk.

the supposition by many is that maddux did not use.
i would not wager on that.You would be leaving easy money on the table. The only thing Greg Maddux ever injected into himself was Twinkees®

hudsonharden

05-12-2008, 10:22 PM

Congrats to Maddux, most likely the last pitcher to acheive this feat in the current era of baseball.

geezer

05-13-2008, 03:47 PM

Congrats to Maddux, most likely the last pitcher to acheive this feat in the current era of baseball.

And probably we wont see any much 300-game winners in the future either.

Honus Wagner Rules

05-13-2008, 04:02 PM

And probably we wont see any much 300-game winners in the future either.

We never have before. I think around 2016-20 we'll see the next 300 game winner. Someone in the Oswalt, Hudson, Zambrano, Sabathia, Buhrle, Peavy, Webb, etc. generation when they are reaching age 40.

otis89

05-13-2008, 04:52 PM

We never have before. I think around 2016-20 we'll see the next 300 game winner. Someone in the Oswalt, Hudson, Zambrano, Sabathia, Buhrle, Peavy, Webb, etc. generation when they are reaching age 40.

To quote Maddux, "Who's Mark Buehrle?" :p

WTG Maddux! Awesome accomplishment!

STLCards2

05-13-2008, 07:00 PM

To quote Maddux, "Who's Mark Buehrle?" :p

WTG Maddux! Awesome accomplishment!

I read a 1991 pre-All Star game interview in which Rickey Henderson said of the NL's starting pitcher, "Who is Tom Glavine?" Funny stuff!

nerfan

05-13-2008, 07:44 PM

We never have before. I think around 2016-20 we'll see the next 300 game winner. Someone in the Oswalt, Hudson, Zambrano, Sabathia, Buhrle, Peavy, Webb, etc. generation when they are reaching age 40.

Remember, when Spahn won his 300th game in 1961, it was the first time since Lefty Grove did it in 1941. I doubt there will be twenty years between Glavine and the next guy to win 300.

geezer

05-13-2008, 09:30 PM

As of today, Randy Johnson is 14 shy, and if he wins today, make it 13, and Mike Mussina has a outside shot with 45 away. After that, not much for the next 12-15 years or so for the 300-win mark, but for the 350-win mark, not much for the rest 30-40 years IMO.