Concession Markup

[Bernard Shakey]

I'm not rich. I'm not poor. I live in a fleeting place that historians will refer to as "middle class" to bewildered school children a few decades from now. With that in mind, I'm getting a little verklempf. Here's a subject to discuss amongst yourselves: $8.81 for a 12 of Miller Lite at the store, $7.00 for 1 warm Miller Lite from a can at the game. $3.75 for 8 hot dogs and 8 buns at the store, $4.50 for 1 friggin' hot dog at the game. 50 cents for a can of pop at work, $4.00 for a medium pop (in a non-souvenir cup) at the game. $20 to park you car for 3 hours (this is Cleveland, I know our friends in Chicago/Boston/etc. might feel $20 is a deal). Look, I already know I have the option to take the train and not buy food - and that's exactly what I do. But c'mon, this is complete bullshavingcream. I don't know, share your opinion, compare your stadium to others, or find the most ridiculous markup in all of sports concessions. When is enough going to be enough when it comes to gouging people who are a captive audience?

[six4three]

Heck, you could add movie theatres to that ($.05 worth of popcorn, maybe $.10 for the container, charge $8.00).

Or airplanes, or anywhere else where they have a captive audience with few other choices.

[BeatEmBucs]

When is enough going to be enough when it comes to gouging people who are a captive audience?

When people stop going to games/movies because of the ridiculous prices. Some places are worse than others. The Primanti Brothers stands at PNC Park charge $6.50 for their cheesesteak. The same cheesesteak is $6.25 at any of their 5 Pittsburgh-area restaurants. I think hot dogs, beers, and sodas are the biggest offenders of mark-up at the ballpark, and you did a good job of describing the mark-up on those items. The prices vary, but for the most part those prices are about "average" for the majors.

[Urbanshocker13]

This might not be a surprise, and I am not sure about other parks but Yankee Stadium has to be the worst! The food is horrible and it's expesive as hell, I hope it gets better when the new stadium opens. almost $9 for a watered down bud in a plastic cup when I am use to paying at the most $5 for a pint of Guinness in a bar, the most I get foodwise in the stadium is a hotdog usally I get one from a hotdog cart outside. I saw a guy last time I was a game with a ton of food, chicken fingers, nachos, hottdogs ect. I thought man that must cost him like $50!

[Astros]

When people stop going to games/movies because of the ridiculous prices. Some places are worse than others. The Primanti Brothers stands at PNC Park charge $6.50 for their cheesesteak. The same cheesesteak is $6.25 at any of their 5 Pittsburgh-area restaurants. I think hot dogs, beers, and sodas are the biggest offenders of mark-up at the ballpark, and you did a good job of describing the mark-up on those items. The prices vary, but for the most part those prices are about "average" for the majors.

In this particular case the Pirates, stadium concessionaire and Primanti Brothers are each getting a cut from sales.

It is like this at all stadiums. And the concessionaire's chief concern (or so was the one I heard speaking) was the PER CAPS! They wanted the average amount each person spent at the stadium to be a certain level.

[Brian McKenna]

I worked with a guy years ago who was the regional manager of AMA - I believe it's called Aramark now. He had the concession business at Memorial Stadium in MD and at the Vet - among a slew of other places he had to oversee. Now he wasn't day to day overseeing the ball parks but they were under his purview and he had a basic understanding of the situation. He would tell me that local, state and federal taxes accounted for nearly 50% of that retail prices of foods and other concessions.

[KCGHOST]

They are charging the amount that when multiplied by consumption maximizes revenue. It's the American way. If they can sell 20,000 beers at $7.50 a piece they won't lower the price to $6 unless they are sure they will sell well over 25,000 beers. And it is important to note that what it costs them is irrelevant.

The price won't go down unless consumption goes down.

[Lions/Tigers@Cubs.OhMy!]

All, I know is I feel as though I'm being taken advantage of every time I buy a beer at Comerica.... they're now charging 6.50 for a 12 ounce beer or 8.50 for a 16 ounce beer.

What makes it even more frusterating or demeaning is they poor the 12 ounce beer into a 24 ounce plastic cup..... so it "looks" as though your getting even less... if you were walking away from the concession sipping the foam of the top, you feel a bit better then when you hand some one a 10 for a single beer (and a bit of change) and they hand you back a half empty cup.

Yet, how can I complain when I continue to pay it?

[Bernard Shakey]

On the base level, it is simple economics (the American way!!) and I was unaware of the large taxation faced here...but still... Graphs, pie charts, labor costs, etc. can't stop me from feeling fleeced when I'm forced to dump or toss anything I may have brought from home into a dumpster and then pay an 800% price increase should I desire a hot dog and a cup of my hooch (Diet Pepsi, of course) at a baseball game. Which brings me to part II of my rant this week:

I hate the layout of Jacobs Field. I had my sons at a game a few weeks ago, these boys have been to PNC, Wrigley, and mostly Jacobs Field errrrrrrrr Progressive Fie.......nope, Jacobs Field. Anyway, we discussed stadium layout as the question was how can a stadium seemingly so much bigger than Wrigley have a similar capacity (this discussion occurred about halfway up the upper deck). The answer is in the mostly empty that night luxury boxes (yes, the narrower Wrigley seats were mentioned as a side note). Let's say there's 15,000 lower bowl seats, 3000 in the bleachers, and 20,000 in the upper deck (and these are merely guestimates). That leaves 3000 seats in the box/mezzanine level for the "big spenders." Have you ever sat in the upper deck at that stadium? The should hand out hats with red lights on the top so you don't get struck by an aircraft. 20,000 people having to re-enter the Earth's atmosphere after a game so that 3000 people can mingle at the club. I don't like it.

The worst part is, we'll hit a game this month - inevitably we'll drive and pay to park, get hungry and eat, and sit in the upper deck. Either I'm a chump or a good dad.....or maybe sometimes you gotta be a little bit chump to be a good parent.

[LetsGoMets687]

Only an idiot would charge less for their concessions when they know people are still willing to pay through the nose.

Perhaps an organized concession strike? Imagine a game where no one bought anything? THAT would send a message maybe. Except you'd be hurting the people selling the concessions too--I think they get a commission.

[Bernard Shakey]

Except you'd be hurting the people selling the concessions too--I think they get a commission.

I dunno about that one anymore, although the vendors who actually walk the stands still get a commission (hence the old timers sell beer and the new guy sells light sticks). I used to sell programs, I mean Game Face Magazines, at Cleveland Stadium - and that was all commission. Really, it was a great high school job...show up early and shag fly balls on the field for early, early, extra visiting team BP, sell from when the gates opened until the 2nd inning, and then watch the game. A good night could bring in $100, a slow one about $15. But, when you're 18, who cares? Now those guys do the same thing for about $7 an hour and don't get to watch the game.

Yes, only an idiot would lower prices when people are willing to pay it. But doesn't somewhere in the world of economics exist a principle regarding supply and demand that might relate to moving more product if those who currently avoid the product at that price might be more inclined to purchase it? I majored in Sport Management, so I'm just a dummmm shirt on such matters.

Speaking of which, the Indians have these "Dollar Dog Nights." I went to one last year. The concession stands looked like ant farms with people falling all over each other to pay a dollar for a dog that would have cost 35 cents at home. Of course, as indicated in previous posts, I begrudgingly joined the fray. Kinda hard to cook hot dogs in time to feed Americans in their 54 waist britches when the feeding frenzy has begun....so those suckers were not even lukewarm.

Hmmmm...a concessions strike.... Problem is, massive activities such as protest strikes/walkouts never work. Most people don't give a crap about other peoples angst on such trivial matters as $4 hot dogs. They'd rather just pay it and watch the game. And so it goes on and on....

[Yoda]

I see this at a game every time I go:

row of drunks in front of me

"you guys ready for another round?"
"yeah"x3

"yo beerman!! 4 MGDs!"

"27 bucks! (i think the beers are 6.75 now)"

--they hand over 30 and tell the guy to keep the change--

process repeats in a half hour and the next guy buys a round. They charge this much because they can and goofballs will continue to pay for it.

There's nothing wrong with having a dog and a beer at the game, but most people don't know how to quit. I go to a lot of games at USCF and Wrigley and at each place there are thousands of drunks just trying to drink as much as they can.

Where they get the money I have no idea.

[Lions/Tigers@Cubs.OhMy!]

Hmmmm...a concessions strike.... Problem is, massive activities such as protest strikes/walkouts never work. Most people don't give a crap about other peoples angst on such trivial matters as $4 hot dogs. They'd rather just pay it and watch the game. And so it goes on and on....

What we/ppl should do is pick a day far into the future and then promote the hell out of it... like June 10th 2009... The start emailing mike&mike every morning, different sports journalist... email chain letters with a link to the boycott, call local news stations (smaller market ones looking for any story to run with) and finally get volunteers to pass out fliers at games starting like a week before.... on game day, post the photocopied signs all over the stadium and light posts (until security chases you off).....

COME ON!!!! WHO'S WITH ME?!?!?!?! :)

[Yoda]

I dunno about that one anymore, although the vendors who actually walk the stands still get a commission (hence the old timers sell beer and the new guy sells light sticks)

The way I think it works at USCF is that the beer vendors "buy" whatever amount of beer they can carry in that little tub they walk around with at a lower price and charge the higher pre-set amount. So they keep the profit.

[Yoda]

What we/ppl should do is pick a day far into the future and then promote the hell out of it... like June 10th 2009... The start emailing mike&mike every morning, different sports journalist... email chain letters with a link to the boycott, call local news stations (smaller market ones looking for any story to run with) and finally get volunteers to pass out fliers at games starting like a week before.... on game day, post the photocopied signs all over the stadium and light posts (until security chases you off).....

COME ON!!!! WHO'S WITH ME?!?!?!?! :)

Imagine that nation-wide on the same day........ahhhh the glory of Revolution!


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[Gary Dunaier]

This might not be a surprise, and I am not sure about other parks but Yankee Stadium has to be the worst!

I don't expect gourmet food at the ballparks. What annoys me the most about Yankee Stadium is that they don't even give you freakin' lids for your soda cups!!!!! If you're sitting way up in the upper deck - excuse me, the Tier Reserve - it's one hell of an adventure trying to carry a tray of food two, three, four stories up without spilling any soda!

[Lions/Tigers@Cubs.OhMy!]

Imagine that nation-wide on the same day........ahhhh the glory of Revolution!



I couldn't imagine it any other way! :)

[Gary Dunaier]

What makes it even more frusterating or demeaning is they poor the 12 ounce beer into a 24 ounce plastic cup..... so it "looks" as though your getting even less...

Probably the reason they pour it into such a large cup is so they don't have to wait for the head to die down before handing you your beer, and they can get to the next customer sooner.

I can imagine that 12 ounces of beer in a 24 ounce cup might not even look like 12 ounces, but if they're pouring the entire can into the cup at least you can't complain about being cheated. (We are talking about canned beer, right?)

[six4three]

Speaking of which, the Indians have these "Dollar Dog Nights." I went to one last year. The concession stands looked like ant farms with people falling all over each other to pay a dollar for a dog that would have cost 35 cents at home. Of course, as indicated in previous posts, I begrudgingly joined the fray. Kinda hard to cook hot dogs in time to feed Americans in their 54 waist britches when the feeding frenzy has begun....so those suckers were not even lukewarm.


That's pretty surprising - I've been to see the Brewers on plenty of throwback nights (with those 1982 concession prices), and the dogs were every bit as good as they are when you pay six bucks.

[MNAFETSC]

All, I know is I feel as though I'm being taken advantage of every time I buy a beer at Comerica.... they're now charging 6.50 for a 12 ounce beer or 8.50 for a 16 ounce beer.


Then why do you buy the beer in the first place?

I never understood the need to drink while watching a game in person. Theres plenty of cheap beer outside of the park waiting for you when the game is over.

[YankeeFanUK]

I see this at a game every time I go:

row of drunks in front of me

"you guys ready for another round?"
"yeah"x3

"yo beerman!! 4 MGDs!"

"27 bucks! (i think the beers are 6.75 now)"

--they hand over 30 and tell the guy to keep the change--

process repeats in a half hour and the next guy buys a round. They charge this much because they can and goofballs will continue to pay for it.

There's nothing wrong with having a dog and a beer at the game, but most people don't know how to quit. I go to a lot of games at USCF and Wrigley and at each place there are thousands of drunks just trying to drink as much as they can.

Where they get the money I have no idea.


am i missing something here ?..a Sox fan going to Wrigley ?..thats just wrong, it`d be like me stepping foot inside Shea :)

[YankeeFanUK]

and on the subject of beer/concessions, i never drink at games...i like to keep score ( ive a stack of scorecards going back to 87 )...beers a Wrigley thing, drunken college kids throwing peanut shells down some chicks top :)

[Yoda]

That's pretty surprising - I've been to see the Brewers on plenty of throwback nights (with those 1982 concession prices), and the dogs were every bit as good as they are when you pay six bucks.

The White Sox used to have dollar dogs and I've found them to be pretty mediocre at best.

If I want a hot dog I'll spend the $4.50 and get a fresh grilled kosher dog from one of the stands.


Never buy from the guys walking around with the hot dog "box."

Those are always cold and smashed.

[Yoda]

am i missing something here ?..a Sox fan going to Wrigley ?..thats just wrong, it`d be like me stepping foot inside Shea :)

:dance

Go to USCF for baseball

Go to Wrigley for Trixies
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JnCWpKaMBUM


(notice the fan foto guy taking pics at the beginning)

:rofl::rofl:

[YankeeFanUK]

i suppose when youve won nothing for 100 years the only thing to do is get drunk :)....i go to ball games to watch the game ( crazy idea i know )...if i want to get drunk i`ll go to a bar ( or the worlds biggest gay bar at the corner of Clark & Addison :) )

[bleacherbum73]

All, I know is I feel as though I'm being taken advantage of every time I buy a beer at Comerica.... they're now charging 6.50 for a 12 ounce beer or 8.50 for a 16 ounce beer.

What makes it even more frusterating or demeaning is they poor the 12 ounce beer into a 24 ounce plastic cup..... so it "looks" as though your getting even less... if you were walking away from the concession sipping the foam of the top, you feel a bit better then when you hand some one a 10 for a single beer (and a bit of change) and they hand you back a half empty cup.

Yet, how can I complain when I continue to pay it?

Can you not bring in your own items into the park. Here in St.L you can bring in outside items as long as it's not alcohol or glass. I watch people bring in bags of chips and 2 liter bottles of soda. In the bleachers where i have season tickets you see many of the sT holders bringing in some things. Mostly I see people bring in a bag of chips and soda, sometimes sandwiches . Most of those people seem to buy more beer at the game.

[bleacherbum73]

I see this at a game every time I go:

row of drunks in front of me

"you guys ready for another round?"
"yeah"x3

"yo beerman!! 4 MGDs!"

"27 bucks! (i think the beers are 6.75 now)"

--they hand over 30 and tell the guy to keep the change--

process repeats in a half hour and the next guy buys a round. They charge this much because they can and goofballs will continue to pay for it.

There's nothing wrong with having a dog and a beer at the game, but most people don't know how to quit. I go to a lot of games at USCF and Wrigley and at each place there are thousands of drunks just trying to drink as much as they can.

Where they get the money I have no idea.

I hear ya. I guess everybody but us are rich, or they are blowing their paycheck on beer. I go to nearly every game here in ST.L and I very rarely drink at the game. i can't afford that. A 16oz beer here is $7.75, or $9.25 for the 24oz, and we brew it only blocks from the park !!!! I usually meet friends at one of the taverns near the park, have about 4 or 5 beers, then head inside.

[Yoda]

i suppose when youve won nothing for 100 years the only thing to do is get drunk :)....i go to ball games to watch the game ( crazy idea i know )...if i want to get drunk i`ll go to a bar ( or the worlds biggest gay bar at the corner of Clark & Addison :) )



:confused:



I'm not of those meathead Sox fans that say crap like that.

[YankeeFanUK]

:confused:



I'm not of those meathead Sox fans that say crap like that.

me thinks your holding a secret crush for the Cubs :)...i personnaly cant stand them...ive been to Wrigley 3 times and each time was p*ssed off by the drunken idiots around me ( must be my age...im an old grumpy swine :) )...i find it obnoxious the idea of going to games to get drunk..pointless and infantile...get drunk at a bar and leave baseball games for people who LOVE baseball

rant over :)

[Lions/Tigers@Cubs.OhMy!]

i suppose when youve won nothing for 100 years the only thing to do is get drunk :)....i go to ball games to watch the game ( crazy idea i know )...if i want to get drunk i`ll go to a bar ( or the worlds biggest gay bar at the corner of Clark & Addison :) )

wow, that's one of the most pathetic things I've ever read at this forum.

that said, I should tell my gay buddy the news though, because until now I thought Wrigley's stereotype had been drunk sorority girls and obnoxious frat boys.....

[YankeeFanUK]

wow, that's one of the most pathetic things I've ever read at this forum.

that said, I should tell my gay buddy the news though, because until now I thought Wrigley's stereotype had been drunk sorority girls and obnoxious frat boys.....

not so much a stereotype, more a fact :)...lighten up guys, its all in fun :)

[Yoda]

me thinks your holding a secret crush for the Cubs :)...i personnaly cant stand them...ive been to Wrigley 3 times and each time was p*ssed off by the drunken idiots around me ( must be my age...im an old grumpy swine :) )...i find it obnoxious the idea of going to games to get drunk..pointless and infantile...get drunk at a bar and leave baseball games for people who LOVE baseball

rant over :)

It all depends on where you sit.

If you sit in the bleachers or in the expensive "mommy and daddy's company paid for these seats" in the LD then be prepared for drunks.

[YankeeFanUK]

It all depends on where you sit.

If you sit in the bleachers or in the expensive "mommy and daddy's company paid for these seats" in the LD then be prepared for drunks.

1 game in left field bleachers, 1 in right & 1 in the upper deck ( 3rd base side )....right field was definately the worse 9 one guy threw his half full beer cup at me and my wife cause i was wearing my Yanks cap....DIFFERENT LEAGUE IDIOT )....this was back in 01 and im guessing it hasnt got any better....loved Marty Brennamans rant last week :)

[YankeeFanUK]

on a side note...i saw my first game in LA back in 1988 ( while on Dead tour )..since then ive been to over 20 Parks and Wrigley was definately my worst experience of ball fans ( even worse than fenway...went there in 98 when it was`nt the *in* place to be )...the old Busch was one of the best..great fans, great town

[Lions/Tigers@Cubs.OhMy!]

on a side note...i saw my first game in LA back in 1988 ( while on Dead tour )..since then ive been to over 20 Parks and Wrigley was definately my worst experience of ball fans ( even worse than fenway...went there in 98 when it was`nt the *in* place to be )...the old Busch was one of the best..great fans, great town

Dead, huh? I followed them also :dance

I always love wrigley because it's Wrigley... but my favorite trip each year (leaving tomorrow morning) is the Cubs/Cards series in St Louis. St Louis is an absolute blast of a town with good fans who know how to keep a rivarly fun and light... I'm going down in a bus of 12 people, all decked out in Cubby Blue and plan to hit the Big Bang bar afterward... this is our 4th year and the people are always great to us.

St Louis is the best baseball town, by far.

[bleacherbum73]

[)...the old Busch was one of the best..great fans, great town[/QUOTE]


Thanks for the compliment YankeeFanUK , you have to come back and see the new park if you have not done so already !!

[YankeeFanUK]

Dead, huh? I followed them also :dance

I always love wrigley because it's Wrigley... but my favorite trip each year (leaving tomorrow morning) is the Cubs/Cards series in St Louis. St Louis is an absolute blast of a town with good fans who know how to keep a rivarly fun and light... I'm going down in a bus of 12 people, all decked out in Cubby Blue and plan to hit the Big Bang bar afterward... this is our 4th year and the people are always great to us.

St Louis is the best baseball town, by far.

thatas great..have fun..St Lou is definately a great town for B/ball ( as is NYC )

[YankeeFanUK]

[)...the old Busch was one of the best..great fans, great town


Thanks for the compliment YankeeFanUK , you have to come back and see the new park if you have not done so already !![/QUOTE]

the New Busch is on my list ( as is Comerica & Nats std )...im making my first trip to Cincy in Aug for 3 Giants games at the GABP ( 21st Park & counting )

[Yoda]

If anything this thread has made me want a beer or ten.

[YankeeFanUK]

every year ( since 1988 ) ive made 2 trips stateside...one 3 game series at the Stadium & a 3 game series at a different Park...next year will be 2 NEW Parks ( a first for me )

[Lions/Tigers@Cubs.OhMy!]

If anything this thread has made me want a beer or ten.

lol, I couldn't agree more... I plan to sit down in front of my TV tonight... already frusterated and expecting the Cubs to lose (again) while doing just that... then pack and get ready to do the same only at Busch Stadium tomorrow... lol

It's amazing how when the Tigers are doing well, the Cubs look like a train wreck and a week and a half ago I was worried the Tigers season was going to be over already when the Cubs were tearin' it up.

[JeepingBaseball]

The should hand out hats with red lights on the top so you don't get struck by an aircraft. 20,000 people having to re-enter the Earth's atmosphere after a game so that 3000 people can mingle at the club.

I believe that's what we currently do at Shea that's smack dab next to a major airport.

[Bernard Shakey]

I just bought a case of beer and a 22lb bag of ice for tonight's backyard bonfire....$19.44.

I don't ever drink at sporting events, I'm there to watch the game. The worst for me is the bleachers at Cleveland Browns Stadium. The Dawg Pound at the old place was ridiculous, but usually funny. The new bleachers are just vile and dangerous, made even worse so if you wear the other team's colors (or Ravens/Steelers stuff no matter who the opponent may be that day).

Plus, there's a little issue called driving home. I think I'll pass on a DUI at a quarter per sip....I think I'll just pass on a DUI period.

[stlfan]

Can you not bring in your own items into the park. Here in St.L you can bring in outside items as long as it's not alcohol or glass. I watch people bring in bags of chips and 2 liter bottles of soda. In the bleachers where i have season tickets you see many of the sT holders bringing in some things. Mostly I see people bring in a bag of chips and soda, sometimes sandwiches . Most of those people seem to buy more beer at the game.

I love going to Gus' Pretzels and getting a Bratzel and a soda before the game and taking it in with me. I also get the pretzel bites too. You can't go wrong and they are so cheap.

[Urbanshocker13]

I love going to Gus' Pretzels and getting a Bratzel and a soda before the game and taking it in with me. I also get the pretzel bites too. You can't go wrong and they are so cheap.

Is Bratzel a typo or did some wounderful supernatural creature some how combine a bratwaurst and a pretzel, and if they did where can I find them so I may worship them!!:bowdown::bowdown:

[alpineinc]

Shea can be a problem because there's nothing around the stadium so you either have to tailgate or buy beer inside. I for one enjoy beer at the ballpark, http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj90/alpineinc/baseball_cool_mets_beer.gif but having full season tix and paying $8 for (good) beers, I'd go bankrupt by the All Star break if I didn't keep it to 2 or so a game.

Most of the heavy beer drinkers seem to be the younger guys (girls too) that don't go that often, but drinking is part of their typical social environment (college etc) so it naturally carries over to the ballpark, for better or for worse. What I don't get is most of them are conditioned by TV or whatever into buying Bud or Bud Lights and need about 6 or 8 to get their buzz, instead of buying maybe 3 Heinekens or Becks, which would achieve the same effect, with less cost and infinitely more enjoyment!

Sometimes it's interesting to watch the "drinkers" around us get increasingly louder and a little more confrontational as the game goes on, usually culminating in the "fight" inning - otherwise known as the 7th. Beer sales are stopped after the top of the 7th, so that's the "peak" of beer consumption, and usually is good for a slight scuffle or two, sometimes worse depending on the opponent. That's probably why I'm a big extra-inning fan - no more beer sales, the partiers go back to the parking lot for brewskis and only the die-hards are left, to simply watch the game.

[stlfan]

Is Bratzel a typo or did some wounderful supernatural creature some how combine a bratwaurst and a pretzel, and if they did where can I find them so I may worship them!!:bowdown::bowdown:
It was no typo. What they do is they slightly or fully cook (I'm not sure) a brat, which is much larger than what you get at the game. Then they encase it in pretzel dough and bake that. They also do the same thing with hot dogs. They are to die for and since the brat or dog are wrapped in the baked pretzel dough, they stay warmer longer.

One thing though, if you are ever in St. Louis and go to a game, DON'T BUY THE ONES THEY SERVE AT THE BALLGAME. A couple of years ago the Cardinals came across Gus' invention and were in talks to sell tham at Busch. Instead they said no thanks and then took the idea and tried to make it their own. But at the stadium they are much smaller, aren't completely wrapped in the dough and are twice as expensive. So if you are ever in STL and want one to take to the game, or just want one, go to Gus'. It's right across highway 55 from the brewery on Arsenal.

P.S.- Hungry now?

[Urbanshocker13]

It was no typo. What they do is they slightly or fully cook (I'm not sure) a brat, which is much larger than what you get at the game. Then they encase it in pretzel dough and bake that. They also do the same thing with hot dogs. They are to die for and since the brat or dog are wrapped in the baked pretzel dough, they stay warmer longer.

One thing though, if you are ever in St. Louis and go to a game, DON'T BUY THE ONES THEY SERVE AT THE BALLGAME. A couple of years ago the Cardinals came across Gus' invention and were in talks to sell tham at Busch. Instead they said no thanks and then took the idea and tried to make it their own. But at the stadium they are much smaller, aren't completely wrapped in the dough and are twice as expensive. So if you are ever in STL and want one to take to the game, or just want one, go to Gus'. It's right across highway 55 from the brewery on Arsenal.

P.S.- Hungry now?
Yes!!!! They always do stuff like that at ballparks, concerts ect. They always seem to have the horrible ripoff version of good food that is always overpriced. God, I must have one! I don't see myself anywhere near St.Louis anytime soon though. That sounds wicked good, like a giant really good pig in a blanket!

[spark240]

Since most venues are constructed with public financing, how about attaching a requirement to the financing package that competition be permitted among various concessionaires within the venue?

[metsfan123]

I bring water, samwitches, all kinds of stuff to shea. They don't expect everyone to buy an 8 dollar hotdog etc.

- Andy

[whoisonit]

God, I must have one! I don't see myself anywhere near St.Louis anytime soon though. That sounds wicked good, like a giant really good pig in a blanket!

I've got to get my hands on some of these things.

stlfan - do they do dry ice mail order ?

[stlfan]

I've got to get my hands on some of these things.

stlfan - do they do dry ice mail order ?
I'm not sure. Take a look at their website.

http://www.guspretzels.com/

[Urbanshocker13]

I'm not sure. Take a look at their website.

http://www.guspretzels.com/

Man, they are like the Carvale of pretzels!! Those speciallity pretzels are crazy!