Old Baseball Stadium Seat Color

[cgcoyne2]

I have an old stadium seat that I painted royal blue. I would like to paint it the old Yankee Stadium's funky green seat color. I believe it was changed to the familiar blue after 1967. Billy Crystal's movie *61 shows the funky mint green that had to be painted onto Tiger Stadium to dress it up like old Yankee Stadium.

My request, really my plea, is to find that color. Does anybody know the formula I could take to Home Depot or Lowe's or do you possibly have a "green" paint chip. If I have to I'll paint it the Yankee Blue. I'm just trying to dress up my seat, not do anything underhanded. This thread proves that:

http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=76159 posts 17 and 18

My seat is from Fulton County Stadium and Memorial Stadium but I always wanted a Yankee Stadium Seat and I would like the proper color to "dress" mine up. Thanks for any help. I also mailed a letter to Billy Crystal asking for help. All the guys selling Yankee Stadium seats will not give me their "secret formula". How do I know they're real Yankee Stadium seats?

[Pinstripes]

http://www.ggumcard.com/images/Yankee%20Stadium%20Seats.jpg

I'm sure someone has a better picture of the green seats. Those ones you can see were the repained blue (before the renovation), but you can see the blue has almost completely worn off showing the original green.

Sampling that photo in photoshop, finding the best green patch I can find, gets you this color:

http://i29.tinypic.com/2hrki2g.png

Its RGB values are:

R: 202
G: 219
B: 203

However, bear in mind those numbers will be subject to whatever errors there are in the original image, which can be affected by the camera (white balance, exposure, etc) and lighting conditions.

If you bring those three values to Home Depot or whatever, I believe they can create a paint mix using those RGB values. Here are the color values in other formats:

C: 21%
M: 5%
Y: 21%
K: 0%

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H: 124 degrees
S: 8%
B: 86%


Here are 3 other colors I obtained by sampling the image.

(the color above is the top left color of this grid):

http://i26.tinypic.com/160q98z.png

If you need/want any of those color values, let me know.

[LetsGoMets687]

I remember reading somewhere that the upper deck seats at Dodger stadium are the exact color mint green of the old Yankee Stadium seats.

[cgcoyne2]

Thanks guys. When using the RGB values in MS Paint, it seems a little light. I'm getting closer.:bowdown:

[Pinstripes]

Thanks guys. When using the RGB values in MS Paint, it seems a little light. I'm getting closer.:bowdown:You have to remember that your computer monitor (just like all monitors) are very rarely going to display an accurate color representation of what a real paint swatch would look like under normal lighting conditions. Some computer monitors are AWFUL at color accuracy, and may be bad at displaying at one particular color. CRT monitors (as opposed to flat panel LCD) are often times even worse with age, as the phosphors age the colors become washed out and extremely inaccurate.

Most colors on computer monitors are less saturated and often much lighter looking that they are in person, especially when the object is under "normal" interior lighting.

Additionally, our eyes can play SERIOUS tricks on us, based on the surrounding area of a color... A light green swatch set against a black background looks much lighter than one against a white background... For example:

http://i31.tinypic.com/20gcnro.jpg

The green strip in the middle of that picture is the same color green from the chair above all the way across, yet it can appear to "fade" in color/brightness across the image due to the gradient in the background.


This may even exaggerate the effect a bit more:

http://i31.tinypic.com/i36vja.jpg

[Pinstripes]

Here's an even bigger kick in the pants:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/36/125874789_d9d00ffd6e.jpg?v=0

The squares labelled "A" and "B" are the exact same identical color/lightness/everything.

Here's an animated gif that "proves" it (no colors change during the animation):

http://i30.tinypic.com/mc4tch.gif

[cgcoyne2]

Thanks pinstripes. I really do appreciate it.:bowdown:

[YankeeStadium1923]

I have an old stadium seat that I painted royal blue. I would like to paint it the old Yankee Stadium's funky green seat color. I believe it was changed to the familiar blue after 1967. Billy Crystal's movie *61 shows the funky mint green that had to be painted onto Tiger Stadium to dress it up like old Yankee Stadium.

My request, really my plea, is to find that color. Does anybody know the formula I could take to Home Depot or Lowe's or do you possibly have a "green" paint chip. If I have to I'll paint it the Yankee Blue. I'm just trying to dress up my seat, not do anything underhanded. This thread proves that:

http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=76159 posts 17 and 18

My seat is from Fulton County Stadium and Memorial Stadium but I always wanted a Yankee Stadium Seat and I would like the proper color to "dress" mine up. Thanks for any help. I also mailed a letter to Billy Crystal asking for help. All the guys selling Yankee Stadium seats will not give me their "secret formula". How do I know they're real Yankee Stadium seats?
I restored a double Yankee Stadium Grandstand Seat and matched the colors from the original paint. My plan was to repaint the Mint Green underneath the Royal Blue. I opted not to use the Mint Green because oil based paints tend to be messy. So I took my time repainting 3 coats with the Royal Blue.

I may still have the unopened full gallon can in my garage. I will have to do a search...

Where are you located?

[Pinstripes]

No problem, glad to help!

What I would suggest doing is maybe see if they can make a sample color or paint swatch card for you, using the numbers I gave you. Test it out in your house, in the location where the chairs will be, see how it looks under those lighting conditions.

You can always have them darken it a bit, too.

Then you could have them mix up a small batch for you that you could paint some wood to test as well.

I would recommend that if you're going to paint the chairs, sand them down of any paint as much as possible, paint them with a quality primer, then paint them the mint green color. You'll get the best results that way.

In a case like this, getting the exact accurate color of the old seats is probably unlikely, so just go with what you think looks approximately right. Maybe even go into Home Depot or Lowes and look through the existing paint swatches for something close to the green of the old seats.

Good luck!

[Yoda]

coming soon: what brand of mustard and toilet paper did they use before the rennovation?

[YankeeStadium1923]

coming soon: what brand of mustard and toilet paper did they use before the rennovation?
The brand of Mustard is easy..Just look through old yearbooks and scorecards....
As for toilet paper......Just about any would do.....Toilet paper hasn't been high on Steinbrenner's list of bathroom maintenance during his tenure as owner.

[Gehrig27]

Here's a few colors I think could be close to the Yankee green.

[cgcoyne2]

I restored a double Yankee Stadium Grandstand Seat and matched the colors from the original paint. My plan was to repaint the Mint Green underneath the Royal Blue. I opted not to use the Mint Green because oil based paints tend to be messy. So I took my time repainting 3 coats with the Royal Blue.

I may still have the unopened full gallon can in my garage. I will have to do a search...

Where are you located?

I'm in Rahway, New Jersey!! Thanks for any consideration.

[SparkyL]

Benjamin Moore Lehigh Green is a very close match (HC -131 / PH-131)

I used that I my YS seat.

[Pinstripes]

Here's a few colors I think could be close to the Yankee green.I think those have a slightly too neon/pastel look (to my eyes anyway). The pictures I've seen make the seats look a bit less saturated than that. Although, those do have a look that's closer to sunlit oxidized copper (ie the frieze), which might be why they chose that green color in the first place, to match the frieze a bit.

[YankeeStadium1923]

I'm in Rahway, New Jersey!! Thanks for any consideration.
I'll check for the can of paint later today....However, It may be hard to get an exact match considering some seats were located in the shade and others would have faded in sunlight.

[six4three]

It's especially tough because of all the professionally restored seats I've seen, they've elected to go with the later blue color.

So one avenue of research just hasn't been done.

[YankeeStadium1923]

It's especially tough because of all the professionally restored seats I've seen, they've elected to go with the later blue color.

So one avenue of research just hasn't been done.
I have an all Original Grandstand seat and a Double Aisle Grandstand seat.
I had to restore the double because the paint on the wooden planks was chipping and needed repainting. I hated to do it, but it had to be done. They came out great and I handle both seats with care. When I restored the seat I left a small hidden portion of the orginal paint scheme for authentication purposes......

[six4three]

Very cool - any pictures you can share?

[Lafferty Daniel]

Wow, another Yankee Stadium thread in disguise.

[YankeeStadium1923]

Sure....I'll take some later tonight and post them...

[cgcoyne2]

I have an all Original Grandstand seat and a Double Aisle Grandstand seat.
I had to restore the double because the paint on the wooden planks was chipping and needed repainting. I hated to do it, but it had to be done. They came out great and I handle both seats with care. When I restored the seat I left a small hidden portion of the orginal paint scheme for authentication purposes......

Do you still have the color. I'm leaning towards the green but I would use the blue if I had to.

Another thing I've started to do was to take color swatches from Lowe's to the stadium and match the blue. I'm going Friday and I'm taking swatches from Home Depot. We'll see what happens in the end.

Thanks guys for all the help. I'm getting closer.

[cgcoyne2]

Benjamin Moore Lehigh Green is a very close match (HC -131 / PH-131)

I used that I my YS seat.

Sparky are you sure? When watching *61 it looked a little bluer, more minty greenish (whatever the hell that means).

[Pinstripes]

Benjamin Moore Lehigh Green is a very close match (HC -131 / PH-131)

I used that I my YS seat.That's definitely not right. The Leghigh Green is a almost a light olive drab green, definitely not close to the lighter blue-green of YS.

http://www.myperfectcolor.com/v/vspfiles/photos/MPC_BM_HC-131-2.jpg

[YankeeStadium1923]

Do you still have the color. I'm leaning towards the green but I would use the blue if I had to.

Another thing I've started to do was to take color swatches from Lowe's to the stadium and match the blue. I'm going Friday and I'm taking swatches from Home Depot. We'll see what happens in the end.

Thanks guys for all the help. I'm getting closer.
Upon searching through a few items I came across an Authentic game used Yankee Stadium seat card I purchased on Ebay. I worked in the Commercial Lithography Industry for years and have a Pantone color chart that I scanned with the card to give you a color range. I would concentrate on the upper left hand corner of the seat card enclosed. Pantone 623 seems to be a closer match to the seat card and my Original Grandstant Seat. Hope this helps.....I'm pretty sure I still have the paint in the garage.

The Yogi Berra Museum in Montclaire, NJ has a set of original mint green box seats from the Old Yankee Stadium....Not sure how far Montclaire is from Rahway.
http://members.aol.com/bridge1883/StadiumColorMatch

[Chevy114]

Whats funny is those seats scream 1960s to me, and I think those colors would be the coolest thing the dodgers could bring back!

[cgcoyne2]

Upon searching through a few items I came across an Authentic game used Yankee Stadium seat card I purchased on Ebay. I worked in the Commercial Lithography Industry for years and have a Pantone color chart that I scanned with the card to give you a color range. I would concentrate on the upper left hand corner of the seat card enclosed. Pantone 623 seems to be a closer match to the seat card and my Original Grandstant Seat. Hope this helps.....I'm pretty sure I still have the paint in the garage.

The Yogi Berra Museum in Montclaire, NJ has a set of original mint green box seats from the Old Yankee Stadium....Not sure how far Montclaire is from Rahway.
http://members.aol.com/bridge1883/StadiumColorMatch

That's it right there. How can I get any closer. You guys are absolutely the best. YankeeStadium1923, if you have a can left over let me know. Even if you painted an index card and mailed it to me I could color match at Home Depot or Lowe's. Thanks again guys!!!!

Also, not only is Montclair within 30 miles, but being a big Yankee fan I've always wanted to go.

[YankeeStadium1923]

That's it right there. How can I get any closer. You guys are absolutely the best. YankeeStadium1923, if you have a can left over let me know. Even if you painted an index card and mailed it to me I could color match at Home Depot or Lowe's. Thanks again guys!!!!

Also, not only is Montclair within 30 miles, but being a big Yankee fan I've always wanted to go.
I did a quick search online and the best match I could find was Valspar Martha Stewart MS319......Seaside Retreat SR907...Or Behr 480d-4 Indian Ocean. I tried matching these colors to the Pantone 623......I may have to go to Home Depot early next week for grass seed and if I remember I will do a computer match. I wouldn't mind having the color for future reference....It's kind of hard to carry an entire Grandstand Seat into Home Depot.....I wasn't able to find the paint that I computer matched 6 years ago.

[cgcoyne2]

I did a quick search online and the best match I could find was Valspar Martha Stewart MS319......Seaside Retreat SR907...Or Behr 480d-4 Indian Ocean. I tried matching these colors to the Pantone 623......I may have to go to Home Depot early next week for grass seed and if I remember I will do a computer match. I wouldn't mind having the color for future reference....It's kind of hard to carry an entire Grandstand Seat into Home Depot.....I wasn't able to find the paint that I computer matched 6 years ago.

As usual thanks again!!!

[Gehrig27]

The Indian Ocean color looks like the better match out of those three.

[Mattingly85MVP]

Can anyone confirm if these types of seats were used in the old yankee stadium. Does anyone know if they came out of the upper deck or mezzanine? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

[Gehrig27]

I saw those same seats on ebay; they look genuine to me, same style, same print of numbers, and the same colors.

[cgcoyne2]

I saw those same seats on ebay; they look genuine to me, same style, same print of numbers, and the same colors.

I have to agree, they look real to me.

If you bought them how about matching the green underneath and letting us know what the "formula" is.:bowdown:

[Mattingly85MVP]

I didn't buy the row of 2 seats, although I do have the same style but its a row of three seats. Unfortunately the three seats are really weathered, so the color seams very faded, as you can see in the first photo, but I have one of the original flat back seats that show the underneath paint better ...Pantone 623 seems to match up really well. I was also thinking about restoring the 3 seats since they are so poorly weathered and paint is chipping, and it would look nice restored to circa 1960 condition. But at the same time, I feel that the chairs would be devalued because of the fact that it would have to be sanded down and strip the metal of all the rust on the arm rests and taking away the original paint. In the meantime the three sit in my basement until I figure out what I want to do with them

[cgcoyne2]

I didn't buy the row of 2 seats, although I do have the same style but its a row of three seats. Unfortunately the three seats are really weathered, so the color seams very faded, as you can see in the first photo, but I have one of the original flat back seats that show the underneath paint better ...Pantone 623 seems to match up really well. I was also thinking about restoring the 3 seats since they are so poorly weathered and paint is chipping, and it would look nice restored to circa 1960 condition. But at the same time, I feel that the chairs would be devalued because of the fact that it would have to be sanded down and strip the metal of all the rust on the arm rests and taking away the original paint. In the meantime the three sit in my basement until I figure out what I want to do with them

Again, All I can say is thank you for all the help. These pictures help tremendously. I'm trying to get close with a color swatch from Lowes or Home Depot, then I'll take it over to the Yogi Berra Museum. I will keep all of you informed. You've all been tremendous:bowdown:

[cgcoyne2]

I didn't buy the row of 2 seats, although I do have the same style but its a row of three seats. Unfortunately the three seats are really weathered, so the color seams very faded, as you can see in the first photo, but I have one of the original flat back seats that show the underneath paint better ...Pantone 623 seems to match up really well. I was also thinking about restoring the 3 seats since they are so poorly weathered and paint is chipping, and it would look nice restored to circa 1960 condition. But at the same time, I feel that the chairs would be devalued because of the fact that it would have to be sanded down and strip the metal of all the rust on the arm rests and taking away the original paint. In the meantime the three sit in my basement until I figure out what I want to do with them

I thought about it. How about this. You have a row of three. The left seat you completely strip and do in the funky green (pre-1967). The middle seat you lightly sand and remove the crappy parts and then clear coat it, preserving the original paint. The right seat you also completely strip and do in the newer blue (post-1967). You have four metal parts. Strip the outside two and paint the left with the green and the right one with the blue. The two inner ones you lightly sand and clear coat. Just my idea. Feel free to do whatever floats your boat.:dance

One other thing. How about a real good close up of the flat-back seat's green paint. Thanks.

[metsfan123]

Wow, another Yankee Stadium thread in disguise.

Word.

- Andy

[Mattingly85MVP]

Here you go

[Mattingly85MVP]

Another section of the chair with the underneath paint

[cgcoyne2]

Another section of the chair with the underneath paint

Thank you.

[cgcoyne2]

Also, not only is Montclair within 30 miles, but being a big Yankee fan I've always wanted to go.

I got a bunch of paint color cards from Lowe's and Home Depot, then I went to The Yogi Berra Museum. It's about 25 miles away. I was walking around slyly and checking the place out. After a while I broke down and asked if there were any Yankee Stadium seats in the museum and I was told, "No, sorry". I said Damn! to myself.

Then some old guy comes over to me and tells me there will be a movie in 10 minutes in the theater. I said OK. I asked him if there are any old Yankee Stadium seats in the museum and he said, "Yeah in the theater". I went in and there they were.

While the movie was running I was checking out color swatches left and right. The closest I got was Lowe's Valspar Patio Glider MS320. It might be a little darker then the chairs but I'll work it out.

I want to thank all of you guys for the help. I would never have known to go to the museum. Thank you.

[cgcoyne2]

OK fellas. I finally got it done. The color is not perfect, I'm sure. But it's close, I think. How would I really know anyway. I decided at the last minute that the Patio Glider was too dark, so I went with Lowe's Seaside Retreat Colors number SR907, Palm Tree. I took the seat apart and painted it with a brush. Not a fun thing to do, let me tell you. After painting each piece several times, I clear coated it. I reassembled it and I love the color.

The funny thing is, when I match the Palm Tree color card up to the chair, it doesn't match. The color card for SR906 Breakwater does match almost perfectly though. I checked the can again and it clearly says that the color is SR907 Palm Tree. Go figure. Thanks to all for the help. The chair looks great!!!

[Pinstripes]

The funny thing is, when I match the Palm Tree color card up to the chair, it doesn't match. The color card for SR906 Breakwater does match almost perfectly though. I checked the can again and it clearly says that the color is SR907 Palm Tree. Go figure. Thanks to all for the help. The chair looks great!!!Did you use a primer first? How many coats did you put on? Most paint will not be its "true" color without either a coat of good primer or 3 or more coats of paint, especially if painting over a darker color.

Either way, it looks good.

[LetsGoMets687]

Old Yankee Stadium compared to current Dodger Stadium.

[cgcoyne2]

Did you use a primer first? How many coats did you put on? Most paint will not be its "true" color without either a coat of good primer or 3 or more coats of paint, especially if painting over a darker color.

Either way, it looks good.

Thanks!!!

The full story of the refinish is this: You know the seat was a hybrid. The metal pieces are from Atlanta Fulton County Stadium and they were pink-purple. The wooden parts were from Baltimore's Memorial Stadium and they were grey.

I used a chemical stripper and stripped about three layers of different colors of paint off everything. I found pink-purple and blue on the metal. I found grey and green on the wood. After stripping them down with the chemical, I sanded then with an electric sander. I also used a wire-wheel attatched to my drill. I'm probably dying from lead poison as we speak. The pieces were almost completely stripped down to bare metal or wood.

I primed them all grey with a Krylon grey spray primer. I used one coat of primer. Then I sprayed them about three times with Krylon Royal Blue spray paint. I didn't clear coat the blue chair. When I decided to change the color I just took the chair apart again and brushed it with the paint can. I used about three coats. I used less than a pint of paint. I used an indoor latex semi-gloss. I'm leaving the seat inside and didn't need an exterior paint. Then I sprayed a Krylon clear coat over the whole thing at least twice. That's it.

[Pinstripes]

Thanks!!!

The full story of the refinish is this: You know the seat was a hybrid. The metal pieces are from Atlanta Fulton County Stadium and they were pink-purple. The wooden parts were from Baltimore's Memorial Stadium and they were grey.

I used a chemical stripper and stripped about three layers of different colors of paint off everything. I found pink-purple and blue on the metal. I found grey and green on the wood. After stripping them down with the chemical, I sanded then with an electric sander. I also used a wire-wheel attatched to my drill. I'm probably dying from lead poison as we speak. The pieces were almost completely stripped down to bare metal or wood.

I primed them all grey with a Krylon grey spray primer. I used one coat of primer. Then I sprayed them about three times with Krylon Royal Blue spray paint. I didn't clear coat the blue chair. When I decided to change the color I just took the chair apart again and brushed it with the paint can. I used about three coats. I used less than a pint of paint. I used an indoor latex semi-gloss. I'm leaving the seat inside and didn't need an exterior paint. Then I sprayed a Krylon clear coat over the whole thing at least twice. That's it.Cool! I do think that probably painting over the blue with the green straight up is what made it ever so slightly darker. However, it looks fine to me :clapping

[cgcoyne2]

Cool! I do think that probably painting over the blue with the green straight up is what made it ever so slightly darker. However, it looks fine to me :clapping

Thank you!!! Again Thank You all for all your help.