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Victory Faust
04-08-2008, 06:21 PM
Life dealt some ballplayers a pretty crappy hand. Take Sam Rice: The poor guy lost his wife, two kids, his mother and two younger siblings, along with a hired hand on the family farm, when a tornado hit in 1912.

John J. McGraw had a tough way to go, too. He lost his mother and four siblings from diphtheria, and after that, his father thrashed him to within an inch of his life to the point where the boy ran away from home.

And Ty Cobb had a tough personal issue to carry around with him. Imagine a young Southern boy having to deal with the fact that his mother killed his father -- and if that wasn't bad enough, the whispers about the circumstances surrounding the killing (that his mother was sleeping around on Ty's beloved father) had to weigh heavy on the mind of the 18-year-old boy.

Babe Ruth also had a tough childhood, growing up in what amounted to a prison.

What are some other personal tragedies to befall ballplayers?

hellborn
04-09-2008, 05:25 AM
Was it Bob Bailey whose wife died during his playing career? He felt that he had to keep playing to support the kids, so he couldn't even spend much time with them to help them deal with the loss of their mother.
It was in one of the Bill James Baseball Books, I might have the wrong player.

Biggtone23
04-09-2008, 09:12 AM
Former Yankees, Brewers and Blue Jays reliever Graeme Lloyd lost his wife at a young age to Crohn's disease.

I seem to remember a story about Melvin Nieves losing a child to a disease, I dont remember which though.

Buzzaldrin
04-09-2008, 09:39 AM
McGraw also lost his young wife in August of the 1899 season. It was his first season managing and he led the stripped Orioles to a surprising fourth place finish- which would have been higher without the tragedy. Considering that he also hit .391 that season with an all time record .547 OBP, it's an unbelievable season in the face of disaster.

he was rewarded with a then record 10,000 dollar contract for 1900 by St. Louis with the reserve clause removed before he'd sign it.

OleMissCub
04-09-2008, 09:43 AM
I think Cobb's personal tragedy had the most impact on the history of baseball. Had that not happened, I don't think we'd be talking about him as much as we do. That shaped his personality more than anything else.

Don't think it has been mentioned yet, but I'm pretty sure Walter Johnson's wife and the mother of his kids just dropped dead of heatstroke or something very suddenly in her mid 30's.

whoisonit
04-09-2008, 09:52 AM
There was a guy on the Dodgers in the 70's, I've been trying to remember who. Was it Wes Parker ? Who lost his wife and kids in an automobile accident.

Grady Little has a very sad story also. His daughter, who I think was a young mother, took her own life a few years ago. I remember reading an article about him when he took the LA job. He said something along the lines of 'nothing that takes place on a ball field is a tradgedy or is gonna make me sad'.

Dalkowski110
04-09-2008, 10:42 AM
Jerome Williams I know had a very tough life with regards to his parents (IIRC...I know his mother died of breast cancer and I think his father died of some ailment during his childhood) both dying premature deaths.

Mets lefty reliever Pedro Feliciano's performance down the stretch in 2007 was severely affected by his baby daughter having a rare heart condition that most infants die of. However, Pedro's daughter thankfully pulled through, though is still somewhat frail.

Pokey Reese has had a life wracked by tragedy...

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2004/02/29/speedy_reese_fast_forward/

The Splendid Splinter
04-09-2008, 11:41 AM
This wasn't like a true tragedy where someone died, but I feel sorry for this guy... Johnny Mostil

"Though he hit a career-high .328 in 1926, on March 9, 1927, he tried to kill himself in his Shreveport hotel room, inflicting 13 razor cuts to his wrist, neck, and arms. The press reported that Mostil suffered from neuritis, but rumors circulated that Mostil was having an affair with the wife of teammate Red Faber, and attempted suicide when Faber found out and threatened to kill him. Mostil recovered and returned by the end of the season, but played less than two more years."

Gee Walker
04-09-2008, 01:37 PM
Bobo Newsom was, believe it or not, the ace of the AL champ Detroit Tigers in 1940. Game one of the World Series was scheduled for Briggs Stadium, and Bobo's father took the train from South Carolina to see his son pitch. Shortly after arriving, the senior Mr. Newsom died of a heart attack. Tigers manager Del Baker asked Bobo if he wanted to be excused from pitching, but Bobo told him that he'd rather dedicate his pitching to his late father.

Bobo went on to pitch an inspired series, winning games 7-2 and 8-0 before losing Game Seven 2-1, pitching on one day's rest.

Victory Faust
04-09-2008, 06:50 PM
Bobo Newsom was, believe it or not, the ace of the AL champ Detroit Tigers in 1940. Game one of the World Series was scheduled for Briggs Stadium, and Bobo's father took the train from South Carolina to see his son pitch. Shortly after arriving, the senior Mr. Newsom died of a heart attack. Tigers manager Del Baker asked Bobo if he wanted to be excused from pitching, but Bobo told him that he'd rather dedicate his pitching to his late father.

Bobo went on to pitch an inspired series, winning games 7-2 and 8-0 before losing Game Seven 2-1, pitching on one day's rest.



Bobo's shutout, which he dedicated to his father before the game, is one of the most underrated Series performances ever.

TonyK
04-09-2008, 07:28 PM
Life dealt some ballplayers a pretty crappy hand...
John J. McGraw had a tough way to go, too. He lost his mother and four siblings from diphtheria, and after that, his father thrashed him to within an inch of his life to the point where the boy ran away from home.

John J. McGraw actually lost his mother to peritonitis and three siblings, not four, to diphtheria. His first two biographies misreported these facts and the rest of them, sad to say, repeated the errors without checking up on them. I just wanted to set the record straight.

I'm not sure about the thrashing story either. Some biographies say it was, and others do not. John McGraw's autobiography doesn't say he was thrashed to within an inch of his life, does it?

Victory Faust
04-09-2008, 09:40 PM
John J. McGraw actually lost his mother to peritonitis and three siblings, not four, to diphtheria. His first two biographies misreported these facts and the rest of them, sad to say, repeated the errors without checking up on them. I just wanted to set the record straight.

I'm not sure about the thrashing story either. Some biographies say it was, and others do not. John McGraw's autobiography doesn't say he was thrashed to within an inch of his life, does it?


It could be that this was misreported, but I wouldn't use the fact that it didn't show up in McGraw's autobiography as an indicator. Ty Cobb's autobiography doesn't say he stabbed a hotel detective in Cleveland, either. I wouldn't expect McGraw to write about his father beating the crap out of him, would you? Remember, these were the days before "Maury Povich" and even if one were inclined to discuss such private matters, it probably just wouldn't do.


I always thought Charles Alexander was a well-respected biographer, and he reports the beatings in his McGraw bio. Donald Honig also discusses it in "Baseball America."

Is there research to suggest otherwise? If so, could you post a link? Thanks...

Iron Jaw
04-09-2008, 09:50 PM
Milt Pappas' wife, Carole, disappeared in 1982 after leaving the couple’s home in the Chicago suburb of Wheaton. A group known as the Ripper Crew were believed to have killed Mrs. Pappas in a satanic ritual.

For five years, there was no sign was found of her car, clothing, or body. In 1987, almost five years to the day Mrs. Pappas disappeared, workers draining a shallow pond only four blocks from the Pappas home discovered the car Mrs. Pappas had been driving, as well as her body. A DuPage County Coroner's jury ruled the cause of death as drowning. Police theorized Pappas mistook a driveway near the pond for a road leading to her subdivision, vaulting 25-30 feet from the bank into the pond.

Victory Faust
04-09-2008, 10:02 PM
Wow, that's pretty messed up about Milt Pappas. A Satanic ritual? Wow...

TonyK
04-10-2008, 04:21 PM
It could be that this was misreported, but I wouldn't use the fact that it didn't show up in McGraw's autobiography as an indicator. Ty Cobb's autobiography doesn't say he stabbed a hotel detective in Cleveland, either. I wouldn't expect McGraw to write about his father beating the crap out of him, would you? Remember, these were the days before "Maury Povich" and even if one were inclined to discuss such private matters, it probably just wouldn't do.


I always thought Charles Alexander was a well-respected biographer, and he reports the beatings in his McGraw bio. Donald Honig also discusses it in "Baseball America."

Is there research to suggest otherwise? If so, could you post a link? Thanks...

Alexander's biography is wrong about the following details:

1. Year of epidemic
2. Time of year of epidemic
3. Number of siblings who died in the epidemic (it actually wasn't an epidemic)
4. The part of town where John McGraw was born in and grew up in
5. A mysterious half-sister and his father's first wife who never existed
6. The number of years of schooling his father had in Ireland

There has been a lot of primary source research done to confirm all six of these details. A geneology book written by a McGraw ancestor covers John McGraw's early years in great length and even lists the wrong details made by his biographers and reasons why they made the wrong conclusions.

I have read about McGraw's three siblings deaths in the local newspaper on microfilm and also visited the grave sites. The graves are marked McGrath, which was the family surname in Ireland. A Historical Society project confirms these errors.

So a lot of time has been spent in learning the true facts. Much more time than was spent by the biographers who supposedly researched them.

From McGraw's autobiography, Page 31: "As a left-handed hitter naturally hits into right field, I broke several window panes. In addition to several threatened thrashings my father had to pay 15 cents for each pane of glass broken.

I'm very surprised Alexander went along with some of the errors. Cait Murphy used the same wrong information in Crazy '08. Each biography tells a different story about the beatings.

MadHatter
04-10-2008, 05:14 PM
Now THAT'S one I've never heard before.


Milt Pappas' wife, Carole, disappeared in 1982 after leaving the couple’s home in the Chicago suburb of Wheaton. A group known as the Ripper Crew were believed to have killed Mrs. Pappas in a satanic ritual.

For five years, there was no sign was found of her car, clothing, or body. In 1987, almost five years to the day Mrs. Pappas disappeared, workers draining a shallow pond only four blocks from the Pappas home discovered the car Mrs. Pappas had been driving, as well as her body. A DuPage County Coroner's jury ruled the cause of death as drowning. Police theorized Pappas mistook a driveway near the pond for a road leading to her subdivision, vaulting 25-30 feet from the bank into the pond.

Brian McKenna
04-11-2008, 07:01 AM
Charlie Bennett lost both legs when he slipped at a railroad station.

Ezra Sutton's final years were miserable.

So there was no satanic ritual in the Pappas case?

Victory Faust
04-11-2008, 07:41 AM
Alexander's biography is wrong about the following details:

1. Year of epidemic
2. Time of year of epidemic
3. Number of siblings who died in the epidemic (it actually wasn't an epidemic)
4. The part of town where John McGraw was born in and grew up in
5. A mysterious half-sister and his father's first wife who never existed
6. The number of years of schooling his father had in Ireland

There has been a lot of primary source research done to confirm all six of these details. A geneology book written by a McGraw ancestor covers John McGraw's early years in great length and even lists the wrong details made by his biographers and reasons why they made the wrong conclusions.

I have read about McGraw's three siblings deaths in the local newspaper on microfilm and also visited the grave sites. The graves are marked McGrath, which was the family surname in Ireland. A Historical Society project confirms these errors.

So a lot of time has been spent in learning the true facts. Much more time than was spent by the biographers who supposedly researched them.

From McGraw's autobiography, Page 31: "As a left-handed hitter naturally hits into right field, I broke several window panes. In addition to several threatened thrashings my father had to pay 15 cents for each pane of glass broken.

I'm very surprised Alexander went along with some of the errors. Cait Murphy used the same wrong information in Crazy '08. Each biography tells a different story about the beatings.



Do you have a link to any of this research which refutes the bios?

TonyK
04-11-2008, 09:31 AM
Do you have a link to any of this research which refutes the bios?

You will have to research this info for yourself if you are interested. The Cortland Historical Society contains ample information about the McGraw family. It is an interesting way to learn how authors get facts, names, and dates mixed up. I realize his biographers were mainly interested in his NY City days, but I find it hard to understand why death records, cemetery plots, or old maps were never examined. Especially if you intend to offer new information about a Hall of Fame player/manager.

Brian McKenna
04-11-2008, 10:49 AM
Some info on McGraw:

http://home.austin.rr.com/mfmcgraw/McGraths%20of%20Truxton%2001.pdf

TonyK
04-11-2008, 02:56 PM
Some info on McGraw:

http://home.austin.rr.com/mfmcgraw/McGraths%20of%20Truxton%2001.pdf

There is some fascinating research in that book along with rich Irish history. At one point the author has a key of what each biographer wrote about various events. He then attempts to explain why they erred and what the correct event really was. It takes a while to read all of it.

Iron Jaw
04-11-2008, 04:29 PM
Of course, 26-year old ChiSox hurler, Monty Stratton, lost his leg after a hunting accident in the off-season near his Texas home. His pistol had an unintentional discharge and the bullet struck his right leg, damaging a main artery, forcing amputation because of the time element involved in getting to a doctor's office.

The young lefty was a very promising pitcher. His story was made famous in a 1949 movie, The Stratton Story, with the great actor, Jimmy Stewart playing the lead role. Great movie, by the way, as are most movies with Jimmy Stewart.:cap:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041928/


Stratton played semi-pro baseball with his wooden leg, then, actually made it back to the minor leagues and won 18 games for a Class C League team.