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Anubis2051
07-13-2009, 06:57 PM
A little off topic but Google Earth has Aloha Stadium in its baseball configuration.
Thats awesome. I wonder how recent the photo is? Becasue I was under the impression the stadium was locked in place.
I agree that the regular season Packer games in Milwaukee are over, but it would still be cool to have a pre-season game or even a scrimmage at Miller Park just to see how it would work.
I don't think the grid would fit.
Chuck The Mets Fan!
07-18-2009, 07:19 AM
Thats awesome. I wonder how recent the photo is? Becasue I was under the impression the stadium was locked in place.
I don't think the grid would fit.
I hate to beat dead horse, but looking at pictures of Wrigley Field for example, I still believe a full football grid can be put on Miller Park's field but the most logical position would have to be from home plate to centerfield. I have not seen actual blueprints of the actual field (not the seating charts) the foul territory ( seems?) wide enough to accomadate on end zone. But the designers of Miller Park took the terminology "baseball only" to it's literal sense!
DaBigMotor
07-18-2009, 07:55 AM
I'll say it AGAIN...it was apparently MEASURED when the Packers were considering scrimmaging there. It was determined that a football grid WOULD NOT FIT MILLER PARK.
DaBigMotor
07-20-2009, 04:28 PM
OYS: Perhaps someone can lighten this one up:
http://bootleggersports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/notre-dame-yankee-stadium.jpg
Anubis2051
07-20-2009, 05:06 PM
Were any renderings released today of NYS in Football config?
ericlc129
07-20-2009, 05:07 PM
Again, one has to totally love the decision to hold a football game at the new YS. I understand the "history" and "Tradition" of having a football game at YS..or any other baseball stadium in general.. But C'mon. There's no college stadium nearby that could be the neutral site for a BCS game or even a high school game?
What's next is that Target Field will soon be hosting high school scrimmages in August and a couple of larger Minneapolis area schools will be having their Homecoming games at Target Field..
Then what's the point of a BASEBALL ONLY stadium?
Sorry..I'm just venting.
Anubis2051
07-20-2009, 07:09 PM
Again, one has to totally love the decision to hold a football game at the new YS. I understand the "history" and "Tradition" of having a football game at YS..or any other baseball stadium in general.. But C'mon. There's no college stadium nearby that could be the neutral site for a BCS game or even a high school game?
What's next is that Target Field will soon be hosting high school scrimmages in August and a couple of larger Minneapolis area schools will be having their Homecoming games at Target Field..
Then what's the point of a BASEBALL ONLY stadium?
Sorry..I'm just venting.
1.) You said it you're self, it's tradition. Thats the most important part, trying to show kids today what their grandparents and great grandparents had a chance to experience. I was born in 1990, so I've never seen anything but baseball played at any version of Yankee Stadium, or Shea for that matter. To be able to see this (regardless of my hatred for both teams as a Navy fan) is something that is to me very appealing.
2.) We...No, there isn't one. With the exception of Giants Stadium, which is booked most of the year, and Rutgers Stadium, which is relatively small, at least until the expansion is completed, there really isn't anything in the NYC area that could viably host a large football game.
DaBigMotor
07-20-2009, 07:43 PM
Were any renderings released today of NYS in Football config?http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=91961
"While the Yankees said Friday the field would run from first base to left field, Yankees chief operating officer Lonn Trost said the only direction it would fit would be from behind home plate to center field, with the dugouts and bullpens possibly modified. In a mockup displayed at Monday's news conference, it appeared many seats would be far from the action: 30 yards from the sideline at midfield and about 20 yards at the 30-yard lines."
Chuck The Mets Fan!
07-25-2009, 07:00 AM
I'll say it AGAIN...it was apparently MEASURED when the Packers were considering scrimmaging there. It was determined that a football grid WOULD NOT FIT MILLER PARK.
Just terrible. Hopefully the bleepholes will try to get some basketball games up there instead...
UnderPressure
07-25-2009, 05:15 PM
I didn't want to make a separate thread since this is a baseball board so I'm just gonna post it here. I never understood why football teams such as the Colts, Falcons, Rams, and other teams chose to have an indoor stadium. I mean, it's football. You play regardless of the weather.
jC...
07-25-2009, 05:36 PM
I didn't want to make a separate thread since this is a baseball board so I'm just gonna post it here. I never understood why football teams such as the Colts, Falcons, Rams, and other teams chose to have an indoor stadium. I mean, it's football. You play regardless of the weather.
They can use those buildings for other events, Like NCAA basketball. None of the teams actually own the stadium so its not really there choice.
baseballman1243
07-25-2009, 05:41 PM
OYS: Perhaps someone can lighten this one up:
http://bootleggersports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/notre-dame-yankee-stadium.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/baseballman1243/notre-dame-yankee-stadium.jpg
Gylmar
07-25-2009, 05:52 PM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/baseballman1243/notre-dame-yankee-stadium.jpg
Great job, baseballman1243! :thumbsup:
baseballman1243
07-25-2009, 05:56 PM
Great job, baseballman1243! :thumbsup:
No problem.
PeteU
07-25-2009, 06:41 PM
I didn't want to make a separate thread since this is a baseball board so I'm just gonna post it here. I never understood why football teams such as the Colts, Falcons, Rams, and other teams chose to have an indoor stadium. I mean, it's football. You play regardless of the weather.
Two words: Super Bowl.
Of the cities that currently have indoor stadiums in the NFL (Indianapolis, Atlanta, St. Louis, New Orleans, Detroit, Minneapolis, plus Houston, Dallas and Phoenix, if you include retractable roofs), all except St. Louis have either hosted a Super Bowl or are scheduled to host one.
UnderPressure
07-25-2009, 08:01 PM
Two words: Super Bowl.
Of the cities that currently have indoor stadiums in the NFL (Indianapolis, Atlanta, St. Louis, New Orleans, Detroit, Minneapolis, plus Houston, Dallas and Phoenix, if you include retractable roofs), all except St. Louis have either hosted a Super Bowl or are scheduled to host one.
So you're saying the Super Bowl will never be played at the new Giants Stadium, Gillette Stadium, or any other open-air stadiums in the north? I hate how the SB is treated like an all-star game. It should be the Pro Bowl that is moved around the country.
stlfan
07-25-2009, 08:51 PM
Two words: Super Bowl.
Of the cities that currently have indoor stadiums in the NFL (Indianapolis, Atlanta, St. Louis, New Orleans, Detroit, Minneapolis, plus Houston, Dallas and Phoenix, if you include retractable roofs), all except St. Louis have either hosted a Super Bowl or are scheduled to host one.
St. Louis WILL NEVER host a Super Bowl. The league doesn't like St. Louis, the dome is a POS and isn't big enough.
UnderPressure
07-25-2009, 09:05 PM
St. Louis WILL NEVER host a Super Bowl. The league doesn't like St. Louis, the dome is a POS and isn't big enough.
EJD has a 66K+ capacity. The average capacity of an NFL stadium ranges from 65K to 75K.That's not big enough?
baseballman1243
07-25-2009, 09:10 PM
So you're saying the Super Bowl will never be played at the new Giants Stadium, Gillette Stadium, or any other open-air stadiums in the north? I hate how the SB is treated like an all-star game. It should be the Pro Bowl that is moved around the country.
It will never be played in those stadiums because it is too cold. Most of the people that go super bowls are all corporate and important people who won't want to sit in the cold.
DaBigMotor
07-25-2009, 09:49 PM
Great job, baseballman1243! :thumbsup:Agreed.:thumbsup:
PurpleMustReign
07-25-2009, 10:26 PM
EJD has a 66K+ capacity. The average capacity of an NFL stadium ranges from 65K to 75K.That's not big enough?
NFL requires 72K or something like that for a SB.
UnderPressure
07-25-2009, 10:42 PM
NFL requires 72K or something like that for a SB.
Ford Field only has 65K...unless they extended the capacity.
OBomb
07-26-2009, 12:44 PM
Ford Field only has 65K...unless they extended the capacity.
Chances are that the capacity was indeed expanded for just the Super Bowl in that instance. For a fact, Raymond James Stadium in Tampa only holds about 67,000 yet temporary seating was added in the endzones for the last two Super Bowls that facility has hosted. One of the many reasons (all facility related, only) why Qualcomm Stadium will never host another Super Bowl is because the first 8 rows on each side of the field level had to be tarped off because of sightline issues thus reducing the capacity for the game. While the stadium had been expanded in 1997 to hold over 70,000, losing those 16 total rows reduced capacity to about 67,000 for the game.
PeteU
07-26-2009, 01:27 PM
So you're saying the Super Bowl will never be played at the new Giants Stadium, Gillette Stadium, or any other open-air stadiums in the north? I hate how the SB is treated like an all-star game. It should be the Pro Bowl that is moved around the country.
Not likely, based on history. Every Super Bowl since its conception in 1967 has either been played in a warm weather climate or at an indoor stadium. I think the thing is that with the incredibly high price for a Super Bowl ticket, the event usually attracts only a certain clientele. And apparently blue bloods don't like watching football games in sub-freezing temperatures. Hence the requirement that Super Bowls be played at indoor stadiums or in warm climates. Yeah, it's not all that fair, but who is the average fan to argue with the NFL, I guess.
Actually, the Pro Bowl won't be played in Hawaii this year, for the first time in decades. It will be played in Miami, which is also hosting the Super Bowl. It will then go back to Hawaii for the next two years, and who knows where it will be after that.
jnakamura
07-26-2009, 01:35 PM
Not likely, based on history. Every Super Bowl since its conception in 1967 has either been played in a warm weather climate or at an indoor stadium. I think the thing is that with the incredibly high price for a Super Bowl ticket, the event usually attracts only a certain clientele. And apparently blue bloods don't like watching football games in sub-freezing temperatures. Hence the requirement that Super Bowls be played at indoor stadiums or in warm climates.
Yeah, and imagine if this had happened in 20 degree weather...
http://beat.bodoglife.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/janet_jackson_breast_hold.jpg
Her nipple would have poked Justin's eye out.
LDYanks16
07-26-2009, 03:54 PM
While pleasing those who spend the almighty dollar to be at the Super Bowl is a chief concern, it is also an integrity of the game issue. The league wants its championship to be decided on as even a playing field as possible, which, to the chagrin of many fans, means keeping the elements to a minimum. The conference playoffs are where home field advantage is meant to rear its head. If a team is good enough and fortunate enough to get to the Super Bowl, it deserves a fair shake -- i.e. a warm weather team or dome team should not have to worry about playing a Super Bowl in the Northeast in February conditions and being at a big disadvantage if facing a cold-weather, run-heavy team. While I love football in the elements as much as the next guy, I'd very much rather not have the elements play a big role in the Super Bowl.
If sending all Super Bowl ticket holders to a tropical spot were the main concern, they'd never have had it in Detroit. But since Detroit had a brand new facility and was very much in need (even 3 years ago) of the economic shot-in-the-arm of hosting a Super Bowl, there you had it.
DrBear
07-26-2009, 05:49 PM
Another reason why Detroit got two Super Bowls - the NFL cozying up to the car companies that are among its biggest TV advertisers (including William Clay Ford's company)
Lpeters199
07-30-2009, 12:58 PM
Wrigley Field, Los Angeles, in football configuration from 1948:
Lpeters199
07-30-2009, 01:03 PM
Wrigley Field, Los Angeles, in football configuration from 1948. Both end zones had their corners cut off.
jrh31584
07-30-2009, 01:42 PM
In case you didn't know, the article you posted is for the 1939 Pro Bowl. I'm not sure what Wrigley Field was being used for in the picture above.
Chuck The Mets Fan!
08-29-2009, 05:42 PM
Yeah, but man, that's really close. The Bears played at Wrigley for 50 years- I can't imagine that somebody didn't get hurt running into that brick.
But then again, there's the oft-quoted story about Bears fullback Bronko Nagurski who once smashed full speed into the brick outfield wall at Wrigley after scoring a touchdown. "That last guy really gave me a good lick," Nagurski supposedly told coach George Halas after he trotted back to the sideline.
After watching today Mets/Cubs debacle, unless the Cub management is thinking of a few cosmetic demolition, that tight fitted end zone will be even tighter because there are permanent field boxes that would have to destroyed just to have one football game there.
UnderPressure
09-03-2009, 02:55 PM
At what point of the football season do they cover the infield dirt for the football tenant, so that it's a real football field?
marlins739
09-03-2009, 03:25 PM
After baseball season ends. The Dolphins do it for the first October home game, probably after they have a couple days of no baseball between the last baseball game. The Dolphins get very angry when we use their stadium for baseball in October; personally, I think they should get over it. They also start painting the field up the way they like to at that point. During baseball season, the Dolphins leave the sidelines as just two thin lines instead of a thick one, and they don't paint the end zones. Later in the year, they paint the yard numbers orange and green, and paint full width sidelines, along with logos in the end zones and at the 50 yard line
stumpmerrill
09-04-2009, 06:45 AM
After baseball season ends. The Dolphins do it for the first October home game, probably after they have a couple days of no baseball between the last baseball game. The Dolphins get very angry when we use their stadium for baseball in October; personally, I think they should get over it. They also start painting the field up the way they like to at that point. During baseball season, the Dolphins leave the sidelines as just two thin lines instead of a thick one, and they don't paint the end zones. Later in the year, they paint the yard numbers orange and green, and paint full width sidelines, along with logos in the end zones and at the 50 yard line
The Dolphins shouldn't get so angry, at least someone is winning championships in that Stadium.
DrBear
09-05-2009, 07:34 AM
In a story in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Saturday, a UFL rep says Milwaukee could be an expansion team, and the head of the stadium district says Miller Park COULD hold a football field. (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/business/57272617.html)
Hmmmmm
Milwaukee County Stadium
09-05-2009, 09:13 AM
In a story in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Saturday, a UFL rep says Milwaukee could be an expansion team, and the head of the stadium district says Miller Park COULD hold a football field. (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/business/57272617.html)
Hmmmmm
I would LOVE to see a football game at Miller Park I hope that Miller Park and Milwaukee Does get a UFL Team that would be a dream come true to have football back for the first time in Milwaukee since 1994!!!
Lpeters199
09-05-2009, 10:26 AM
Here's a partial of Forbes Field set up for football.
Hank 755
09-06-2009, 02:41 PM
Not sure how accurate my measurements were but could something like this work?
Chuck The Mets Fan!
09-06-2009, 05:21 PM
In a story in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Saturday, a UFL rep says Milwaukee could be an expansion team, and the head of the stadium district says Miller Park COULD hold a football field. (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/business/57272617.html)
Hmmmmm
After looking at Hank's diagram it seems feasible, but then it makes you wonder what type of measurements the Packers were dealing with? I personally seen a bit of a tight fit around the dugout part, but it still seemed like it COULD happen and spare the Brewer management some more grief.
Chuck The Mets Fan!
09-06-2009, 05:27 PM
MIght not be the best piece of work, but what if the Citi Field was set up this way? I posted this elsewhere on the forum.
Great job Hank.
Hank 755
09-06-2009, 11:22 PM
I don't mean to steal your thunder Chuck but I found out two ways to get a football field into Citi. The first of which is basically the suggestion that Chuck made. The second I just kind of figured out. It has enough room that it is not squeezed into the field but would have terrible sightlines.
DJ Starion
09-07-2009, 10:28 AM
Actually, the Pro Bowl won't be played in Hawaii this year, for the first time in decades. It will be played in Miami, which is also hosting the Super Bowl. It will then go back to Hawaii for the next two years, and who knows where it will be after that.
I was under the impression that Aloha was losing the Pro Bowl indefinitely, and that it was going to be played at the Super Bowl hosting stadium in that off week between the NFC/AFC championships and the SB
Chuck The Mets Fan!
09-07-2009, 01:38 PM
I don't mean to steal your thunder Chuck but I found out two ways to get a football field into Citi. The first of which is basically the suggestion that Chuck made. The second I just kind of figured out. It has enough room that it is not squeezed into the field but would have terrible sightlines.
Hey Hank, I am cool with that we are on a puclic forum and your draw up plan is fantastic. :)
I believe they might arrange the football grid like the NYS and have all of the good seating way far from the action.
Hank 755
09-07-2009, 06:07 PM
Andrew Clem shows that the field in NYS would go from home to center. http://andrewclem.com/Baseball/YankeeStadium_II.html I found that the field can go from home to left angled a couple different ways just barely but enough to probably provide better sightlines than what Notre Dame wants to do. Here are some that I found out.
Judge Smails
09-07-2009, 11:11 PM
Found this on flickr....User has a bunch of other stadiums in his thread.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimgumm/3869781682/
Love this shot!
Paul W
09-08-2009, 09:00 PM
oakland mausoleum pre-mount davis about 1968
Paul W
09-08-2009, 09:10 PM
astrodome change over info, not much different than shea except for the carpet...
Paul W
09-08-2009, 09:36 PM
got to hang with the skydome grounds crew when changing over to football...
Paul W
09-08-2009, 09:41 PM
the infamous skydome mound, on hydraulic lift...
b.t.w. - when walking over drains and the metal plates covering the mound hole, quite a racket...
Paul W
09-08-2009, 09:51 PM
the vet when new...
Paul W
09-08-2009, 11:47 PM
ap photo of left field area before a jets game in '80?
Paul W
09-09-2009, 12:27 AM
the puzzle that is this place, unlike the "cookie cutters" that have self-movable field level seats this place needs cranes to move seat sections from behind 1st and 3rd and move the mt. davis sideline seats in from the parking lot.
the football field was repositioned more towards the new outfield seating and further away from the old grandstand. compare this to the photo posted previously.
all of the bullpen and infield mounds have to be removed and outfield grass suffers from the outfield seating. due to amazing scheduling the a's ended up starting home stands less than 48 hours after raiders games twice this year, with the field being a mess.
stlfan
09-09-2009, 09:59 PM
I never understood Oakland's setup. Especially in the old photo, it seems that any seat near the endzones sucked because they didn't quite face the gridiron.
Aviator_Frank
09-09-2009, 10:39 PM
Plus everyone seated in Mt. Davis faces the sun.
jC...
09-10-2009, 09:27 AM
I never understood Oakland's setup. Especially in the old photo, it seems that any seat near the endzones sucked because they didn't quite face the gridiron.
And thats why Multi-Purpose Stadiums dont work. Good eye, I never noticed that.
marlins739
09-10-2009, 11:51 AM
Does anybody know what the staircases in the outfield corners are for? They predate the Mount Davis renovations
Aviator_Frank
09-10-2009, 12:34 PM
I never understood Oakland's setup. Especially in the old photo, it seems that any seat near the endzones sucked because they didn't quite face the gridiron.
This seemed like a better orientation:
Dougman59
09-10-2009, 12:34 PM
Those staircases mystify me. They never seem used to it's full capacity and there seem to be plenty of other entrances and exits in the stadium. Were they built with anticipation of concerts or something that allow mass entrance and exit to the playing field?
I know of no other stadium that have these large staircases.
stlfan
09-10-2009, 01:11 PM
Those staircases mystify me. They never seem used to it's full capacity and there seem to be plenty of other entrances and exits in the stadium. Were they built with anticipation of concerts or something that allow mass entrance and exit to the playing field?
I know of no other stadium that have these large staircases.
I think someone said in another thread or maybe even this on that they were used for fans to get to the football bleachers in the outfield before Mt. Davis. Fans had to walk down onto the field to get to them.
Paul W
09-10-2009, 01:57 PM
I think someone said in another thread or maybe even this on that they were used for fans to get to the football bleachers in the outfield before Mt. Davis. Fans had to walk down onto the field to get to them.
correct...
Paul W
09-10-2009, 02:07 PM
this shows the main reason that the round "cookie cutter" parks did not work...
a. for baseball the seats closest to the field are right behind the plate (especially in oakland) and the rest are far away until the foul poles.
b. for football the 50 yard line seats are the farthest away from the field and end zones the closest.
in theory this may work, but in reality NOT!
Lpeters199
09-23-2009, 01:19 PM
From an eBay auction:
Chuck The Mets Fan!
09-24-2009, 12:02 PM
I don't mean to steal your thunder Chuck but I found out two ways to get a football field into Citi. The first of which is basically the suggestion that Chuck made. The second I just kind of figured out. It has enough room that it is not squeezed into the field but would have terrible sightlines.
If you go to the UFL site and click on "Citi Field" the second is the set up they will be going with for football.
Tampa Bay Giants
09-24-2009, 03:37 PM
http://www.ufl-football.com/content/stadium/CitiFieldSeatingChart_0/CitiFieldSeatingChart_small.pngIf you go to the UFL site and click on "Citi Field" the second is the set up they will be going with for football.
bandit12
09-24-2009, 03:44 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/wynnedIII/unc-justice-ny-650-092309.jpg
Charlie "Choo Choo" Justice in OYS
UNC vs. Notre Dame
November 12, 1949
Story from where I got this photo....
http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/092309aai.html
ericlc129
09-24-2009, 06:34 PM
Again, with ALL the money NCAA has bilked....I mean...err..recieved from the sports loving public why the ____ do they want a football game in a baseball ONLY stadium? Boy, I guess HOK is now going to be designing, next decade, retro brick and stone ballparks that convert to football games.
Wouldn't that be like reliving history? Three Rivers, the Dome,Vets, all just retro fit per Selig and HOK's specs?
Sorry guys, but back in the day is one thing...but fitting a football or soccer field in the ballparks in this century seems like a bad idea, and something that reeks of Municipal and Met Stadium all over again.
I thought we were moving AWAY from football games being held in baseball stadiums.
DaBigMotor
09-25-2009, 08:24 AM
http://www.ufl-football.com/content/stadium/CitiFieldSeatingChart_0/CitiFieldSeatingChart_small.png
Just like the NYS setup. Horriblle. Don't understand why they wouldn't go 3rd base to right?
Lpeters199
09-25-2009, 11:21 AM
Briggs Stadium, Detroit:
Just like the NYS setup. Horriblle. Don't understand why they wouldn't go 3rd base to right?
Yeah, nothing says success quite like starting a new league where teams are playing in stadiums that have fans 50 yards away from the damn field. What a joke.
Sean O
09-25-2009, 01:40 PM
Yeah, nothing says success quite like starting a new league where teams are playing in stadiums that have fans 50 yards away from the damn field. What a joke.
It's adorable to think the UFL will have enough people in the stands to fill in the 50 yard line seats.
bandit12
09-27-2009, 08:07 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/wynnedIII/unc-justice-ny-650-092309.jpg
Charlie "Choo Choo" Justice in OYS
UNC vs. Notre Dame
November 12, 1949
Story from where I got this photo....
http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/092309aai.html
Here are a few more shots from the same collection....
http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/results.php?CISOOP1=all&CISOFIELD1=CISOSEARCHALL&CISORESTMP=results.php&CISOVIEWTMP=item_viewer.php&CISOMODE=grid&CISOGRID=thumbnail%2CA%2C1%3Btitle%2CA%2C1%3Bdescr i%2CA%2C0%3Bdata%2C200%2C0%3Bnone%2CA%2C0%3B20%3Bt itle%2Cnone%2Cnone%2Cnone%2Cnone&CISOBIB=title%2CA%2C1%2CN%3Bdescri%2CA%2C0%2CN%3Bd ata%2C200%2C0%2CN%3Bnone%2CA%2C0%2CN%3Bnone%2CA%2C 0%2CN%3B20%3Btitle%2Cnone%2Cnone%2Cnone%2Cnone&CISOTHUMB=20+%284x5%29%3Btitle%2Cnone%2Cnone%2Cnon e%2Cnone&CISOTITLE=20%3Btitle%2Cnone%2Cnone%2Cnone%2Cnone&CISOHIERA=20%3Bdescri%2Ctitle%2Cnone%2Cnone%2Cnone&CISOSUPPRESS=0&CISOBOX1=yankee&CISOROOT=%2Fmorton_highlights
Lpeters199
09-28-2009, 02:48 PM
Football at Forbes Field:
nyce475
09-28-2009, 06:14 PM
Here are a few football in baseball stadium pics from my collection. Top to bottom: Rams at Anaheim Stadium; Falcons at Fulton-County; Vikings at The Met; Jets at Shea. Enjoy...
This couldn't be a Jets game. Shea wasnt painted like this until the late 80's and the Jets were in the Meadowlands for years by then.
NYFan1stYankFan2nd
09-28-2009, 06:22 PM
Andrew Clem shows that the field in NYS would go from home to center. http://andrewclem.com/Baseball/YankeeStadium_II.html I found that the field can go from home to left angled a couple different ways just barely but enough to probably provide better sightlines than what Notre Dame wants to do. Here are some that I found out.
<sighhhh>
This is akin to landing a 747 at Westchester. . . :banghead:
clinikillz
09-29-2009, 04:55 AM
Found this on flickr....User has a bunch of other stadiums in his thread.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimgumm/3869781682/
Love this shot!
Shea Stadium looked much better with a football configuration than anything else...
Gary Dunaier
09-29-2009, 08:47 AM
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NYFan1stYankFan2nd
09-29-2009, 03:07 PM
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Gary dude!?!? You KNOW about that song - the one in your signature?? Off of that Paul McCartney Album "Flowers In The Dirt" from nearly 20 years ago. Gary!! I've been trying to introduce people to that track for just as long. That is a slammin' club track even if it's in French. It never sounds old or corny no matter how often I play it. :rofl:
Paul W
10-05-2009, 01:19 PM
here's the opposite, george sauer @ shea in '68. baseball config....
DaBigMotor
10-05-2009, 10:42 PM
here's the opposite, george sauer @ shea in '68. baseball config....
Nice closeup of the AFL football.
burroughsmvp
10-06-2009, 08:54 AM
Was there ever an exhibition game in the old Hoosier Dome? I vaguely recall talk about some distance problems with that would prohibit an MLB team from ever moving there.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3463/3986691045_48622b8a32_b.jpg
jC...
10-06-2009, 09:04 AM
here's the opposite, george sauer @ shea in '68. baseball config....
Nice closeup of the AFL football.
The Spalding J5-V.
I read that in a book.:dance
Was there ever an exhibition game in the old Hoosier Dome? I vaguely recall talk about some distance problems with that would prohibit an MLB team from ever moving there.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3463/3986691045_48622b8a32_b.jpg
There was an old-timers exhibition game there in 1984. Indianapolis was going to try and land an expansion team in the early 80's (called the Indianapolis Arrows) and the idea was to retro-fit the Hoosier/RCA Dome for baseball, like the Metrodome in Minneapolis. However, the Hoosier/RCA Dome was strictly a football stadium and not multi-purpose like the Metrodome - meaning, it wasn't as wide as the Metrodome. (The pic is from Corbis)
burroughsmvp
10-06-2009, 03:17 PM
Any idea of the dimensions for the 1984 old timers game?
burroughsmvp
10-06-2009, 03:23 PM
Found it. 182 to left.
Keep in mind though, the seats in the Hoosier/RCA Dome were permanent, which is why it was only 182'. I'm not sure what the footage would have been had the seats folded under, like the Metrodome. My guess is that it would have only been around 290' - 300'.
DrBear
10-06-2009, 03:45 PM
The Houston Astrodome from 1972, the year the NFL moved in the hashmarks (from SI Vault):
http://pics.livejournal.com/drbear/pic/00069p6y/s320x240
devcar
11-18-2009, 09:13 PM
The Jets played 1 preseason game at Yankee Stadium in the late 70's
That's it.......NEVER a regular season game
They played at Shea until 1983 and began playing in Jersey in 1984
The Jets actually played 3 pre-season games at Yankee Stadium in 1976, one was against the Giants.
As I go through these posts, I'm seeing today's new stadiums being configured..conceptually of course...for football. Reality is, some concepts are being used.
So the question I have and I'm sure it's been asked before...Why bother building a brand new baseball only shrine (The main reason why dual purpose stadiums were knocked down in the first place...for sole purpose stadiums...) if it's eventually going to be dually used for football?