The .300/30/100 Hitters Club for 2007

[Zagi-CRO]

AVG HR RBI
Alex Rodriguez 0.314 54 156
Matt Holliday 0.340 36 135
David Ortiz 0.332 35 117
Miguel Cabrera 0.320 34 119
Albert Pujols 0.327 32 103
Carlos Lee 0.303 32 119
David Wright 0.325 30 107
Mark Teixeira 0.306 30 105


Are they so-called 'EightThe Great' !?

[Zagi-CRO]

For the Season 2006.


AVG HR RBI
Ryan Howard 0.313 58 149
Albert Pujols 0.331 49 137
Lance Berkman 0.315 45 136
Jermaine Dye 0.315 44 120
Travis Hafner 0.308 42 117
Carlos Lee 0.300 37 116
Paul Konerko 0.313 35 113
Manny Ramirez 0.321 35 102
Justin Morneau 0.321 34 130
Matt Holliday 0.326 34 114
Vlad Guerrero 0.329 33 116
Vernon Wells 0.303 32 106
Chase Utley 0.309 32 102


For the Season 2005.

AVG HR RBI
Alex Rodriguez 0.321 48 130
David Ortiz 0.300 47 148
Derrek Lee 0.335 46 107
Mark Teixeira 0.301 43 144
Albert Pujols 0.330 41 117
Miguel Cabrera 0.323 33 116
Carlos Delgado 0.301 33 115
Travis Hafner 0.305 33 108
Vlad Guerrero 0.317 32 108
Jason Bay 0.306 32 101



For the Season 2004.

AVG HR RBI
Barry Bonds 0.362 45 101
Vlad Guerrero 0.337 39 126
Adrian Beltre 0.334 48 121
Albert Pujols 0.331 46 123
Aramis Ramirez 0.318 36 103
Lance Berkman 0.316 30 106
Scott Rolen 0.314 34 124
Miguel Tejada 0.311 34 150
Manny Ramirez 0.308 43 130
David Ortiz 0.301 41 139
Jim Edmonds 0.301 42 111
Bobby Abreu 0.301 30 105


ALBERT PUJOLS - four times!!

[bob]

Pujols owns this category! Even on a subpar (by his awesome standards) puts him comfortably in the .300/30/100 club!

[Jermz]

And who are the guys that we think could do it this year? I would think everyone from 2007 is a safe bet to repeat except maybe Carlos Lee. He will probably give us .285 this year.

I would also think Berkman, Konerko, Morneau, Utley & D Lee have a chance at doing it again this year. And I have always liked Jason Bay, but I don't know if his days of hitting 30 HR's are over already.

Any young guys out there that might do it?

[holyroman]

why would you bet against Carlos Lee?

How many teams can say they have 4 guys in there lineup with a legitimate shot of hitting the .300/30/100 mark?

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Thirty HRs is just not impressive anymore in this era. It should be .300/40/100.

[holyroman]

Thirty HRs is just not impressive anymore in this era. It should be .300/40/100.

see, I think the opposite I am not as impressed with 40 homers, and say a
.212 average, as I am with a .312 average and 30 homers.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

see, I think the opposite I am not as impressed with 40 homers, and say a
.212 average, as I am with a .312 average and 30 homers.

And that's way I said a .300 and 40 HR, not just 40 HRs regardless of BA. And, yes a .300 BA and 40 HRs is more impressive than a .300 and 30 HRs.

[holyroman]

And that's way I said a .300 and 40 HR, not just 40 HRs regardless of BA. And, yes a .300 BA and 40 HRs is more impressive than a .300 and 30 HRs.

Then we are in agreement.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Then we are in agreement.

:thumbsup:

[bob]

Also, .300 with 41 HR's is even better.:hide:
The .300/40/100 club is a bit more exclusive, in fact only A-Rod was in it last year, although we were spoiled in '05 and '06 with 5 guys each time.
What would people here consider "historic" using the avg/hr/rbi method? .330/45/120? I dont know about the RBI totals, since you can have a brilliant season by avg and HR totals but be on a subpar team (and visa versa), so not make the cut.

[brewcrew82]

Ryan Braun (in 113 games last year) was only 3 RBI away from joining this group. I'd say he is a good chance of making the list this season. :crossfingers:

[Old Sweater]

Thirty HRs is just not impressive anymore in this era. It should be .300/40/100.

Yeah, a whole .04% of the players have .300/30hr/100rbi/ the last 4 years. Way to easy to do.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Yeah, a whole .04% of the players have .300/30hr/100rbi/ the last 4 years. Way to easy to do.

How did you get 0.04%?

[Westlake]

why would you bet against Carlos Lee?

How many teams can say they have 4 guys in there lineup with a legitimate shot of hitting the .300/30/100 mark?

If he were in another park, I would bet against, but not in Minute Maid. He's amazing there, but only average on the road.

I would bet against the Astros having even 2 .300/30/100 hitters. Just because of odds -- and well, I dont think Pence is going to hit at that level next year.

[LouGehrig]

Theodore Bernard Kluszewski from 1953-1956
Theodore Samuel Williams in 1941-42 and 1946-47 which are consecutive.
Lou from 1929-1937. Not bad.
Babe from 1920-1924 and again from 1926-1933.

[ElHalo]

Any young guys out there that might do it?

I'd be willing to put a whole $5.00 on Robinson Cano doing it this year at age 25. He seems primed for a breakout in power to me, and he's basically guaranteed the .300 and 100 RBI's (if, as expected, he ends up hitting in the 5 slot for the Yankees).

[rockin500]

How did you get 0.04%?
yeah, thats more than a bit of an exageration. assuming 400 or so somewhat regular position players in the league, its approximately 2% a year that it happens.

still, that percentage is pretty low. though i somewhat agree with you that its not overly impressive given the current affairs of baseball.

[Old Sweater]

How did you get 0.04%?


Just used the starters and didn't count the DH like I should have.

8x30=240x4=960 and there was 43 players. Still .04 with the DH

[Zagi-CRO]

2002

AVG HR RBI
Alex Rodriguez 0.300 57 142
Jim Thome 0.304 52 118
Barry Bonds 0.370 46 110
Magglio Ordonez 0.320 38 135
Jason Giambi 0.314 41 122
Vlad Guerrero 0.336 39 111
Miguel Tejada 0.308 34 131
Albert Pujols 0.314 34 127
Jeff Kent 0.313 37 108
Manny Ramirez 0.349 33 107
Alfonso Soriano 0.300 39 102
Todd Helton 0.329 30 109


2003

AVG HR RBI
Albert Pujols 0.359 43 124
Carlos Delgado 0.302 42 145
Gary Sheffield 0.330 39 132
Javy Lopez 0.328 43 109
Todd Helton 0.358 33 117
Manny Ramirez 0.325 37 104
Vernon Wells 0.317 33 117
Aubrey Huff 0.311 34 107



Does somebody has 2000 and 2001 stats for the batters? /Link/

[hellborn]

Just used the starters and didn't count the DH like I should have.

8x30=240x4=960 and there was 43 players. Still .04 with the DH

Um, dude, you said 0.04% before, not 4%...0.04% is 4 out of 10,000.

BTW, the '04 Cards had two .300/40 guys, and three .300/30...now I remember why I was worried about them heading into the WS (and still wonder how long the series might have run if Chris Carpenter had been healthy).

[Zagi-CRO]

Thirty HRs is just not impressive anymore in this era. It should be .300/40/100.

The .300/50/100 club has only 3 members:
Alex Rodriguez
Jim Thome
Ryan Howard

[holyroman]

If someone hits 50 dingers, they should have 100 rbi's.

[holyroman]

If he were in another park, I would bet against, but not in Minute Maid. He's amazing there, but only average on the road.

I would bet against the Astros having even 2 .300/30/100 hitters. Just because of odds -- and well, I dont think Pence is going to hit at that level next year.

I'm not saying I would bet on it either, but I do think the potential is there and the pedigree in the case of Lee, Berkman, and Tejada. I think if Pence did what he did last season over a full season this year (not unlike Ryan Braun) then he hits that mark too. Tejada missed 30 games last year, is moving to a new league, moving to a new ballpark (with a homerun porch), and into a lineup where he can not be pitched around, so I think the possibility is there. I'm optomistic

[Old Sweater]

Um, dude, you said 0.04% before, not 4%...0.04% is 4 out of 10,000.

BTW, the '04 Cards had two .300/40 guys, and three .300/30...now I remember why I was worried about them heading into the WS (and still wonder how long the series might have run if Chris Carpenter had been healthy).



Um, whatever dandy. It's .04 on a calculator.

[geezer]

2001

Player AVG. HR RBI
Barry Bonds 0.328 73 137
Sammy Sosa 0.328 64 160
Luis Gonzalez 0.325 57 142
Alex Rodriguez 0.318 52 135
Todd Helton 0.339 49 146
Phil Nevin 0.306 41 126
Manny Ramirez 0.306 41 125
Bret Boone 0.337 37 141
Juan Gonzalez 0.325 35 140
Albert Pujols 0.337 37 130
Lance Berkman 0.331 34 126
Jason Giambi 0.342 38 120
Magglio Ordoñez 0.305 31 113
Jim Edmonds 0.304 30 110
Cliff Floyd 0.317 31 103
Vladimir Guerrero 0.307 34 108
Chipper Jones 0.330 38 102
Aramis Ramirez 0.300 34 112
Gary Sheffield 0.311 36 100
Larry Walker 0.350 38 123

[Zagi-CRO]

Geezer, where did you find these data for 2001?

[geezer]

Geezer, where did you find these data for 2001?


http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL_2001_bat.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL_2001_bat.shtml

[geezer]

2000

Player AVG. HR RBI
Carlos Delgado 0.344 41 137
Jermaine Dye 0.321 33 118
Carl Everett 0.300 34 108
Jason Giambi 0.333 43 137
Bobby Higginson 0.300 30 102
Edgar Martinez 0.324 37 145
Magglio Ordoñez 0.315 32 126
Manny Ramirez 0.351 38 122
Alex Rodriguez 0.316 41 132
Frank Thomas 0.328 43 143
Bernie Williams 0.307 30 121
Moises Alou 0.355 30 114
Jeff Bagwell 0.310 47 132
Barry Bonds 0.306 49 106
Brian Giles 0.315 35 123
Luis Gonzalez 0.311 31 114
Vladimir Guerrero 0.345 44 123
Todd Helton 0.372 42 147
Richard Hidalgo 0.314 44 122
Andruw Jones 0.303 36 104
Chipper Jones 0.311 36 111
Jeff Kent 0.334 33 125
Phil Nevin 0.303 31 107
Mike Piazza 0.324 38 113
Gary Sheffield 0.325 43 109
Sammy Sosa 0.320 50 138

[bob]

Just shows how much the game has changed even since the millennium. Far more players in the .300/30/100 club back then, it took a bonds-esque offence to stand out of the crowd.

[Zagi-CRO]

2000

Player AVG. HR RBI
Carlos Delgado 0.344 41 137
Jermaine Dye 0.321 33 118
Carl Everett 0.300 34 108
Jason Giambi 0.333 43 137
Bobby Higginson 0.300 30 102
Edgar Martinez 0.324 37 145
Magglio Ordoñez 0.315 32 126
Manny Ramirez 0.351 38 122
Alex Rodriguez 0.316 41 132
Frank Thomas 0.328 43 143
Bernie Williams 0.307 30 121
Moises Alou 0.355 30 114
Jeff Bagwell 0.310 47 132
Barry Bonds 0.306 49 106
Brian Giles 0.315 35 123
Luis Gonzalez 0.311 31 114
Vladimir Guerrero 0.345 44 123
Todd Helton 0.372 42 147
Richard Hidalgo 0.314 44 122
Andruw Jones 0.303 36 104
Chipper Jones 0.311 36 111
Jeff Kent 0.334 33 125
Phil Nevin 0.303 31 107
Mike Piazza 0.324 38 113
Gary Sheffield 0.325 43 109
Sammy Sosa 0.320 50 138

Thanks. I'm shocked with 2000 data!! So much .300/30/100!!!

[StanTheMan]

Pujols has done it every year in his career.......

[geezer]

Among active players who played during the 2007 season, here are the players with the most .300-30-100 seasons (5 of more times):

Barry Bonds - 9
Manny Ramirez - 9
Vladimir Guerrero - 8
Albert Pujols - 7
Alex Rodriguez - 7
Frank Thomas - 7
Gary Sheffield - 6
Mike Piazza - 6
Todd Helton - 5
Chipper Jones - 5

[geezer]

1999

Player AVG. HR RBI
Jason Giambi 0.315 33 123
Juan Gonzalez 0.326 39 128
Shawn Green 0.309 42 123
Fred McGriff 0.310 32 104
Magglio Ordoñez 0.301 30 117
Rafael Palmeiro 0.324 47 148
Manny Ramirez 0.333 44 165
Ivan Rodriguez 0.332 35 113
Jeff Bagwell 0.304 42 126
Brian Giles 0.315 39 115
Vladimir Guerrero 0.316 42 131
Todd Helton 0.320 35 113
Chipper Jones 0.319 45 110
Eric Karros 0.304 34 112
Mike Piazza 0.303 40 124
Gary Sheffield 0.301 34 101
Robin Ventura 0.301 32 120
Larry Walker 0.379 37 115
Matt Williams 0.303 35 142

[mendoza line]

of guys who didnt do it in 2007. vlad is a lock. delmon young is a lock. change of scenery, protection in lineup(he's hitting in the three spot), hes on fire this spring. soriano hit 299 last year and has 79 hrs the last two years and hes in wrigley(at least that what its called at the moment). aramis ramirez hit 310 last year and entering his prime power years.

[Baseball Guru]

AVG HR RBI
Alex Rodriguez 0.314 54 156
Matt Holliday 0.340 36 135
David Ortiz 0.332 35 117
Miguel Cabrera 0.320 34 119
Albert Pujols 0.327 32 103
Carlos Lee 0.303 32 119
David Wright 0.325 30 107
Mark Teixeira 0.306 30 105


Are they so-called 'EightThe Great' !?


Impressive list.. Throw in the fact that David Wright is a .300/30/30/100, with his 30 + SB's and he had one heck of a season:applaud:

[Zagi-CRO]

2001
AVG HR RBI
Barry Bonds 0.328 73 137
Sammy Sosa 0.328 64 160
Luis Gonzalez 0.325 57 142
Todd Helton 0.339 49 146
Alex Rodriguez 0.318 52 135
Bret Boone 0.337 37 141
Larry Walker 0.350 38 123
Albert Pujols 0.337 37 130
Juan Gonzalez 0.325 35 140
Phil Nevin 0.306 41 126
Manny Ramirez 0.306 41 125
Jason Giambi 0.342 38 120
Lance Berkman 0.331 34 126
Chipper Jones 0.330 38 102
Aramis Ramirez 0.300 34 112
Vladimir Guerrero 0.307 34 108
Gary Sheffield 0.311 36 100
Magglio Ordoñez 0.305 31 113
Cliff Floyd 0.317 31 103
Jim Edmonds 0.304 30 110

[Zagi-CRO]

2000
AVG HR RBI
Sammy Sosa 0.320 50 138
Todd Helton 0.372 42 147
Frank Thomas 0.328 43 143
Jeff Bagwell 0.310 47 132
Jason Giambi 0.333 43 137
Carlos Delgado 0.344 41 137
Vlad Guerrero 0.345 44 123
Edgar Martinez 0.324 37 145
Alex Rodriguez 0.316 41 132
Rich Hidalgo 0.314 44 122
Barry Bonds 0.306 49 106
Manny Ramirez 0.351 38 122
Gary Sheffield 0.325 43 109
Mike Piazza 0.324 38 113
Jeff Kent 0.334 33 125
Brian Giles 0.315 35 123
Magg Ordoñez 0.315 32 126
Jermaine Dye 0.321 33 118
Chipper Jones 0.311 36 111
Moises Alou 0.355 30 114
Andruw Jones 0.303 36 104
Bernie Williams 0.307 30 121
Carl Everett 0.300 34 108
Luis Gonzalez 0.311 31 114
Phil Nevin 0.303 31 107
Bobby Higginson 0.300 30 102

[Imgran]

delmon young is a lock..

Hardly. Despite all the hype, Young didn't really hit very well at all last year in Tampa Bay and didn't come anywhere near any kind of 30 HR's. He hit 13. In 645 AB's. For a SLG of .408. And an OPS right around the same level as Coco Crisp's thanks to a terrible .316 OBP that completely negates the one thing he did do well (.288 AVG).

Can he turn it around? Sure, he's young. Can he hit .300/30/100 despite falling short in every single criterion last year? Sure, why not?

But to pretend that he's a mortal lock to be one of the league's great hitters one year removed from his stinker of a 2007 is laughable.

[Zagi-CRO]

The 21st Century rankings 0.300/30/30 Club--->


1 Alex Rodriguez
2 Albert Pujols
3 Barry Bonds
4 Manny Ramirez
5 Todd Helton
6 Sammy Sosa
7 Vladimir Guerrero
8 David Ortiz
9 Jason Giambi
10 Carlos Delgado
11 Luis Gonzalez
12 Gary Sheffield
13 Lance Berkman
14 Ryan Howard
15 Magglio Ordoñez
16 Miguel Tejada
17 Jermaine Dye
18 Matt Holliday
19 Frank Thomas
20 Mark Teixeira

[Jermz]

why would you bet against Carlos Lee?

How many teams can say they have 4 guys in there lineup with a legitimate shot of hitting the .300/30/100 mark?

Only because .303 & .300 are awfully close to .299, which would bump him off the list. He's not hitting .330 consistently, and he is a big mean slugger with a ton of whallop in his swing. He is a great hitter, but if I was a betting man, he would be the one that would decrease in avg. while increasing in power.

[bob]

The 21st Century rankings 0.300/30/30 Club--->

[code]
1 Alex Rodriguez
2 Albert Pujols

What is this based on? A-rod has done it 5 times since 2000 (3 times missing out on BA), Pujols is 7 for 7 since he started in '01.