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jalbright
02-23-2008, 06:21 AM
Let the voting begin! For anyone who has not participated before, please read the rules posted here

The Rules (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1014933&postcount=2)

Those players receiving only one ballot in an election may go on to a list from which voters may only vote for a limited number of such candidates. For more details on this rule, please follow the above link to the Rules. For this election, you may not select more than two (2) from this list:


Burns, George
Canseco, Jose**
Lazzeri, Tony
Long, Herman*
Mathews, Bobby**
Munson, Thurman
O'Neill, Tip*
Pinson, Vada**
Smith, Reggie*
Veach, Bobby**


For more details on this rule, please consult the link to the Rules above, and to this post: Limited Selection List (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1015092&postcount=7)

Also, please note that now ballots as short as zero (0) names are now permitted. However, if a voter intends to cast a ballot naming no one, this must be clearly communicated or the ballot will not count.

Voting in this cycle will end at 11:59:59 pm Eastern Time, March 14, 2008.

Other information of note is who is in the BBF HOF.

BBF HOF membership by category (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1014935&postcount=3)

BBF HOF membership listed alphabetically (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1014936&postcount=4)

Last month's results are posted. You are requested to pay particular attention to those individuals receiving 50% or more of the vote last election, as they are the most likely candidates to be elected this month. In fact, I have specific posts on players receiving 50% or more of last month's vote:

Results of last election (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1015079&postcount=5)

Those with 50% or more last election (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1015103&postcount=9)

I have also posted this with respect to the status of the project:

Project Status (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1015091&postcount=6)

I have posted all the players who have exceeded 50% of the vote at least once without yet being elected

50%+ voting history (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1015105&postcount=10)

Also, please note that you can access the last voting thread (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=70945) here.

jalbright
02-23-2008, 06:21 AM
My 2/23 - 3/14/08 ballot

key:
red=Japanese League
blue=Negro Leagues
green=19th century

I'm leaving a spot open right now.

Players

1. Sal Bando, 3b
2. Akira Bessho, p (Japan)
3. Cupid Childs, 2b
4. Wilbur Cooper, p
5. Leon Day, p
6. Darrell Evans, 3b
7. Jack Glasscock, ss
8. Burleigh Grimes, p
9. Tommy Leach, 3b/cf
10. Dick Lundy, ss
11. Tony Mullane, p
12. Hiromitsu Ochiai 1B/3B (Japan)
13. Alejandro Oms, of
14. Dan Quisenberry, p
15. Sam Rice, of
16. Hardy Richardson, 2b
17. Joe Start, 1b
18. Vern Stephens, ss
19. Ezra Sutton, 3b
20. Quincy Trouppe, c
21. Bucky Walters, p
22. Vic Willis, p
23. Hack Wilson, of

late addition--24. Masaaki Koyama, p (Japan)

Anyone who wants more information on these or other players, please see my latest player voting guide (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=68335)

Dogdaze
02-23-2008, 08:33 AM
Jake Beckley
Akira Bessho
Pete Browning
Wilbur Cooper
Leon Day
Darrell Evans
Jack Glasscock
Lefty Gomez
Addie Joss
Chuck Klein
Ernie Lombardi
Dick Lundy
Heinie Manush
Tony Mullane
Hiromitsu Ochiai
Al Oliver
Alejandro Oms
Spotswood Poles
Dan Quisenberry
Jim Rice
Sam Rice
Lee Smith
Joe Start
Mickey Welch
Hack Wilson

I decided to make some changes to attempt to get players voted in, then maybe some of my previous choices will get a chance. I still believe my original choices are better, but my replacements are also HOF worthy imo.

Paul Wendt
02-23-2008, 09:25 AM
OK, let me be one whose votes are counted in the intermediate reports and tactical deliberations.
(Insert Cooper in place of Sutter. No other change.)

Wally Berger
Akira Bessho
Roger Bresnahan
Cupid Childs
Wilbur Cooper
Gavvy Cravath
Darrell Evans
Jack Glasscock
Burleigh Grimes
Charley Jones
Charlie Keller
Tommy Leach
Herman Long
Cal McVey
Tony Mullane
Graig Nettles
Alejandro Oms
Dickey Pearce
Lip Pike
Dan Quisenberry
Hardy Richardson
Jimmy Sheckard
Joe Start
Ezra Sutton
Jimmy Wynn

jjpm74
02-23-2008, 09:49 AM
Jake Beckley
Roger Bresnahan
Cupid Childs
Darrell Evans
Jack Glasscock
Lefty Gomez
Burleigh Grimes
Addie Joss
Chuck Klein
Rabbit Maranville
Cal McVey
Tony Mullane
Thurman Munson
Dickey Pearce
Lip Pike
Dan Quisenberry
Sam Rice
Hardy Richardson
Phil Rizzuto
Lee Smith
Joe Start
Vern Stephens
Ezra Sutton
Hack Wilson
Jimmy Wynn

I had a small turnover where a few people were added and a few dropped from the last election.

Cowtipper
02-23-2008, 09:58 AM
Jake Beckley
Chief Bender
Akira Bessho
Bobby Bonds
Roger Bresnahan
Pete Browning
Kiki Cuyler
Lefty Gomez
Burleigh Grimes
Addie Joss
Chuck Klein
Heinie Manush
Cal McVey
Tony Mullane
Al Oliver
Alejandro Oms
Dan Quisenberry
Jim Rice
Sam Rice
Jimmy Ryan
Lee Smith
Larry Walker
Mickey Welch
Vic Willis
Hack Wilson

I am replacing Sutter with Bresnahan.

Brad Harris
02-23-2008, 11:16 AM
Akira Bessho
Roger Bresnahan
Cupid Childs
Wilbur Cooper
Leon Day
Darrell Evans
Jack Glasscock
Burleigh Grimes
Dick Lundy
Edgar Martinez
Cal McVey
Tony Mullane
Hiromitsu Ochiai
Alejandro Oms
Dan Quisenberry
Sam Rice
Hardy Richardson
Jimmy Sheckard
Joe Start
Vern Stephens
Ezra Sutton
Quincy Trouppe
Bucky Walters
Vic Willis
Jimmy Wynn

Sockeye
02-23-2008, 12:07 PM
Jake Beckley, 1b
Akira Bessho, p
Roger Bresnahan, c
Pete Browning, of
Jose Canseco, of
Cupid Childs, 2b
Darrell Evans, 3b
Lefty Gomez, p
Burleigh Grimes, p
Addie Joss, p
Dave Kingman, 1b
Chuck Klein, of
Edgar Martinez, 3b
Cal McVey, 1b
Tony Mullane, p
Alejandro Oms,of
Dan Quisenberry, p
Rafael Palmeiro, 1b
Sam Rice, of
Jimmy Sheckard, of
Joe Start, 1b
Hack Wilson, of
Mickey Welch, p
Jimmy Wynn, of
Vic Willis, p

leecemark
02-25-2008, 12:06 AM
--The return of the 25 man ballot (although I don't feel especially certain about some of these)
Bessho, A.
Bresnahan, R.
Bridges, T.
Cash, N.
Childs, C.
Cooper, W.
Gomez, L.
Grimes, B.
Hernandez, K.
Howard, E.
Leach, T.
Lombardi, E.
Morris, J.
McVey, C.
Mullane, T.
Munson. T.
Nettles, G
Ohms, A.
Parrish, L.
Quisenberry, D.
Rice, J.
Sheckard, J.
Start, J.
Wilson, H.
Wynn, J.

Captain Cold Nose
02-25-2008, 05:35 AM
Jake Beckley
Akira Bessho
Pete Browning
Kiki Cuyler
Leon Day
Jack Glasscock
Lefty Gomez
Burleigh Grimes
Bob Johnson
Addie Joss
Chuck Klein
Ernie Lombardi
Heinie Manush
Hiromitsu Ochiai
Alejandro Oms
Rafael Palmeiro
Spot Poles
Jim Rice
Sam Rice
Jimmy Ryan
Jimmy Sheckard
Lee Smith
Joe Start
Mickey Welch
Hack Wilson
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TheSlaff
03-05-2008, 05:41 PM
Jake Beckley
Roger Bresnahan
Pete Browning
Kiki Cuyler
Bob Elliott
Darrell Evans
Dwight Evans
Burleigh Grimes
Lefty Gomez
Keith Hernandez
Addie Joss
Chuck Klein
Edgar Martinez
Cal McVey
Rafael Palmeiro
Dickey Pearce
Dan Quisenberry
Sam Rice
Hardy Richardson
Joe Start
Vern Stephens
Ezra Sutton
Larry Walker
Mickey Welch
Hack Wilson

J W
03-06-2008, 07:59 AM
Dropped Klein... added Berger:

Jake Beckley*
Chief Bender*
Wally Berger
Bobby Bonds
Roger Bresnahan
Tommy Bridges*
Lefty Gomez
Addie Joss
Tommy Leach
Rabbit Maranville*
Edgar Martinez
Dan Quisenberry
Jimmy Ryan
Lee Smith*
Larry Walker
Mickey Welch
Vic Willis
Jimmy Wynn
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* = bubble

Freakshow
03-06-2008, 09:29 AM
Easy. Same as last election.

17 Beckley-1B
5 Bresnahan-C
4 Browning P-OF*
2 Childs-2B*
33 Evans Da-3B*
21 Evans Dw-RF*
26 Glasscock-SS*
12 Grimes-P
21 Hernandez-1B*
4 Keller-LF*
5 Klein-RF
2 Leach T-3B*
8 Martinez E-DH*
3 McVey-C*
5 Nettles-3B*
2 Oms-RF*
22 Palmeiro-1B*
10 Pearce D-SS*
2 Pike-CF*
9 Richardson H-2B*
8 Ryan J-CF*
7 Sheckard-LF*
9 Start-1B*
3 Sutton E-3B*
26 Wynn J-CF*
10.6 ave mos on ballot

* = not in HOF
bold = member of the Hall of Merit

dgarza
03-06-2008, 10:04 AM
Tommy Bond
Pete Browning
Kiki Cuyler
Lefty Gomez
Bob Johnson
Chuck Klein
Tony Lazzeri
Ernie Lombardi
Heinie Manush
Edgar Martinez
Bobby Matthews
Jim McCormick
Cal McVey
Tony Mullane
Tony Oliva
Al Oliver
Rafael Palmeiro
Jim Rice
Al Rosen
Lee Smith
Vern Stephens
Larry Walker
Mickey Welch
Vic Willis
Hack Wilson

AG2004
03-14-2008, 08:10 AM
My March 14, 2008 ballot

PLAYERS
Sal Bando
Wally Berger
Akira Bessho
Bobby Bonds
Roger Bresnahan
Cupid Childs
Wilbur Cooper
Darrell Evans
Dwight Evans
Burleigh Grimes
Keith Hernandez
Charlie Keller
Masaaki Koyama
Tommy Leach
Hiromitsu Ochiai
Alejandro Oms
Dickey Pearce
Spotswood Poles
Dan Quisenberry
Jimmy Sheckard
Joe Start
Ezra Sutton
Quincy Trouppe
Vic Willis
Jimmy Wynn

Koyama appears on a ballot for the first time. Jim has done some nice work on him, and his work forms the basis for my vote. He left two spots open on this month's ballot, but that was in case he wanted to push a candidate forward as a result of increased support. He does see Koyama as worthy of the BBFHOF.

Erik Bedard
03-14-2008, 08:22 AM
Jake Beckley
Akira Bessho
Roger Bresnahan
Gavy Cravath
Darrell Evans
Dwight Evans
Red Faber
Burleigh Grimes
Home Run Johnson
Chuck Klein
Rabbit Maranville
Edgar Martinez
Cal McVey
Dobie Moore
Tony Mullane
Hiromitsu Ochiai
Tony Oliva
Alejandro Oms
Dickey Pearce
Lip Pike
Dan Quisenberry
Jimmy Sheckard
Reggie Smith
Joe Start
Jimmy Wynn

jalbright
03-15-2008, 11:31 AM
We elected three candidates this month: Dan Quisenberry, Burleigh Grimes and Joe Start. The results from our 15 valid ballots submitted were:


Grimes, Burleigh….. 12 80.0 Bando, Sal……….. 2 13.3
Quisenberry, Dan.. 12 80.0 Beckley, Jake…….. 9 60.0
Start, Joe…………. 12 80.0 Bender, Chief…….. 2 13.3
Bresnahan, Roger 11 73.3 Berger, Wally…….. 3 20.0
Oms, Alejandro…… 11 73.3 Bessho, Akira……. 10 66.7
Bessho, Akira……. 10 66.7 Bond, Tommy…….. 1 6.7
Evans, Darrell……. 10 66.7 Bonds, Bobby……. 3 20.0
McVey, Cal……….. 10 66.7 Bresnahan, Roger 11 73.3
Mullane, Tony…….. 10 66.7 Bridges, Tommy….. 2 13.3
Beckley, Jake…….. 9 60.0 Browning, Pete…… 7 46.7
Gomez, Lefty…….. 9 60.0 Canseco, Jose…… 1 6.7
Klein, Chuck………. 9 60.0 Cash, Norm………. 1 6.7
Wilson, Hack……… 9 60.0 Childs, Cupid……… 8 53.3
Wynn, Jimmy……… 9 60.0 Cooper, Wilbur…… 6 40.0
Childs, Cupid……… 8 53.3 Cravath, Gavvy…… 2 13.3
Rice, Sam………….. 8 53.3 Cuyler, Kiki………… 4 26.7
Sheckard, Jimmy…. 8 53.3 Day, Leon…………. 4 26.7
Browning, Pete…… 7 46.7 Elliott, Bob…………. 1 6.7
Glasscock, Jack…. 7 46.7 Evans, Darrell……. 10 66.7
Joss, Addie……… 7 46.7 Evans, Dwight……. 4 26.7
Martinez, Edgar…… 7 46.7 Glasscock, Jack…. 7 46.7
Sutton, Ezra……… 7 46.7 Gomez, Lefty…….. 9 60.0
Welch, Mickey……. 7 46.7 Grimes, Burleigh….. 12 80.0
Willis, Vic…………. 7 46.7 Hernandez, Keith… 4 26.7
Cooper, Wilbur…… 6 40.0 Howard, Frank……. 1 6.7
Leach, Toimmy…… 6 40.0 Johnson, Bob…….. 2 13.3
Ochiai, Hiromitsu….. 6 40.0 Jones, Charley…… 1 6.7
Pearce, Dickey……. 6 40.0 Joss, Addie……… 7 46.7
Richardson, Hardy 6 40.0 Keller, Charlie…….. 3 20.0
Smith, Lee………… 6 40.0 Kingman, Dave….. 1 6.7
Palmeiro, Rafael….. 5 33.3 Klein, Chuck………. 9 60.0
Rice, Jim………….. 5 33.3 Koyama, Masaaki 2 13.3
Stephens, Vern….. 5 33.3 Lazzeri, Tony…….. 1 6.7
Cuyler, Kiki………… 4 26.7 Leach, Toimmy…… 6 40.0
Day, Leon…………. 4 26.7 Lombardi, Ernie…… 4 26.7
Evans, Dwight……. 4 26.7 Long, Herman…….. 1 6.7
Hernandez, Keith… 4 26.7 Lundy, Dick……….. 3 20.0
Lombardi, Ernie…… 4 26.7 Manush, Heinie…… 4 26.7
Manush, Heinie…… 4 26.7 Maranville, Rabbit 3 20.0
Pike, Lip………….. 4 26.7 Martinez, Edgar…… 7 46.7
Ryan, Jimmy………. 4 26.7 Mathews, Bobby… 1 6.7
Walker, Larry…….. 4 26.7 McCormick, Jim…… 1 6.7
Berger, Wally…….. 3 20.0 McVey, Cal……….. 10 66.7
Bonds, Bobby……. 3 20.0 Morris, Jack……… 1 6.7
Keller, Charlie…….. 3 20.0 Mullane, Tony…….. 10 66.7
Lundy, Dick……….. 3 20.0 Munson, Thurman.. 2 13.3
Maranville, Rabbit 3 20.0 Nettles, Graig…….. 3 20.0
Nettles, Graig…….. 3 20.0 Ochiai, Hiromitsu….. 6 40.0
Oliver, Al………….. 3 20.0 Oliva, Tony……….. 2 13.3
Poles, Spotswood… 3 20.0 Oliver, Al………….. 3 20.0
Trouppe, Quincy…. 3 20.0 Oms, Alejandro…… 11 73.3
Bando, Sal……….. 2 13.3 Palmeiro, Rafael….. 5 33.3
Bender, Chief…….. 2 13.3 Parrish, Lance……. 1 6.7
Bridges, Tommy….. 2 13.3 Pearce, Dickey……. 6 40.0
Cravath, Gavvy…… 2 13.3 Pike, Lip………….. 4 26.7
Johnson, Bob…….. 2 13.3 Poles, Spotswood… 3 20.0
Koyama, Masaaki 2 13.3 Quisenberry, Dan.. 12 80.0
Munson, Thurman.. 2 13.3 Rice, Jim………….. 5 33.3
Oliva, Tony……….. 2 13.3 Rice, Sam………….. 8 53.3
Walters, Bucky…… 2 13.3 Richardson, Hardy 6 40.0
Bond, Tommy…….. 1 6.7 Rizzuto, Phil……… 1 6.7
Canseco, Jose…… 1 6.7 Rosen, Al…………. 1 6.7
Cash, Norm………. 1 6.7 Ryan, Jimmy………. 4 26.7
Elliott, Bob…………. 1 6.7 Sheckard, Jimmy…. 8 53.3
Howard, Frank……. 1 6.7 Smith, Lee………… 6 40.0
Jones, Charley…… 1 6.7 Smith, Reggie…….. 1 6.7
Kingman, Dave….. 1 6.7 Start, Joe…………. 12 80.0
Lazzeri, Tony…….. 1 6.7 Stephens, Vern….. 5 33.3
Long, Herman…….. 1 6.7 Sutton, Ezra……… 7 46.7
Mathews, Bobby… 1 6.7 Trouppe, Quincy…. 3 20.0
McCormick, Jim…… 1 6.7 Walker, Larry…….. 4 26.7
Morris, Jack……… 1 6.7 Walters, Bucky…… 2 13.3
Parrish, Lance……. 1 6.7 Welch, Mickey……. 7 46.7
Rizzuto, Phil……… 1 6.7 Willis, Vic…………. 7 46.7
Rosen, Al…………. 1 6.7 Wilson, Hack……… 9 60.0
Smith, Reggie…….. 1 6.7 Wynn, Jimmy……… 9 60.0